Ultra Street Fighter 4 Discussion Thread

TheMikenyan · 20-09-2013 11:57PM

At least Infiltration took a couple of games off him. Xian got A round, maybe; the rest of the time, the only thing he accomplished by landing hits was giving Daigo meter.

Rob2D · 25-09-2013 07:08PM

Hey guys quick question about PC version.

Is there anything in the graphics settings in particular that would make the game run a bit sluggish? I have what feels like slight input lag.

At first I though it might be my new monitor so I hooked up to my TV where I usually play on 360, but experienced the same thing.

As it stands I have everything at max.

Cobelcog · 25-09-2013 07:25PM

Rob2D wrote: »

Hey guys quick question about PC version.

Is there anything in the graphics settings in particular that would make the game run a bit sluggish? I have what feels like slight input lag.

At first I though it might be my new monitor so I hooked up to my TV where I usually play on 360, but experienced the same thing.

As it stands I have everything at max.

Hey man, try turning VSYNC off in the options. I was getting mad lag until I turned it off and it became a lot smoother

Rob2D · 25-09-2013 09:11PM

Cobelcog wrote: »

Hey man, try turning VSYNC off in the options. I was getting mad lag until I turned it off and it became a lot smoother

Nice one, it worked!

I was really hoping it wouldn't be the vsync; now I have a butt load of screen tear to deal with:pac: But its better than playing under water.

TheMikenyan · 30-09-2013 01:12PM

This fight is absolutely incredible.

In other news, The R.A.G.E. might be having a SF2 Turbo tournament.

FutureGuy · 01-10-2013 09:41PM

I'm famous(ly terrible at charging my upkicks correctly!!!).

Oh and by the way, the reason they called me a pro was because I beat 3 casual players before this vid. Pro. lol.

Orim · 01-10-2013 11:30PM

Fun Factoid: Since at least November 2012, AE has been consistently in the top 5 played games on the GFWL service. Dunno if this says more about the game or GFWL.

Burning Eclipse · 02-10-2013 11:02AM

FutureGuy wrote: »

I'm famous(ly terrible at charging my upkicks correctly!!!).

Oh and by the way, the reason they called me a pro was because I beat 3 casual players before this vid. Pro. lol.

I show up at about 30 minutes into that video, representing a weak-ass Chun. Thoroughly enjoyed myself however, and Ryan Hart was a gentleman

Doctor DooM · 02-10-2013 11:30AM

Ryan gets a hard time but every time I've encountered him he's been an absolute gentleman to everyone.

Ramza · 02-10-2013 11:53AM

Ryan's a really cool dude, from my own experience anyway (seems to be pretty unanimous among people!).

Kanped · 02-10-2013 12:15PM

The only time I've ever gotten a bad impression of him was from the Madcatz tweet fiasco and even then, when you read the whole story, you can see where he was coming from and he did quickly apologize. Always seemed like a nice guy and a very under-rated player to me.

Doctor DooM · 04-10-2013 12:48PM

Looks like Ultra will be getting a loke test soon.

http://www.eventhubs.com/news/2013/oct/03/ayano-wants-hold-location-test-ultra-street-fighter-4-near-future-every-day-team-putting-careful-thought-fine-tuning-game/

Looks like we might hear some new changes soon so

Doyler01 · 04-10-2013 03:00PM

Some Ireland vs UK on stream tonight.

Preview here.

http://www.twitch.tv/zombiebrian/b/467307891

Me and Hound vs ProFluke(Fuerte) and Janitor (DeeJay) :O

Azza vs Jester Power (Chun) ft7

Doctor DooM · 04-10-2013 03:49PM

Gluck to all of you!

Doctor DooM · 11-10-2013 10:15AM

http://www.eventhubs.com/news/2013/oct/10/capcom-ultra-street-fighter-4-isnt-where-it-should-be-point-playable-build-be-featured-capcom-cup-december/

So, we'll be seeing some of what Ultra has in store this December

I really wish they'd start announcing some concrete changes... this "everything you see might be changed" thing is killing the hype, let people enjoy their buffs

Doctor DooM · 18-10-2013 08:09PM

Ayano's said there'll be a big Ultra announcement sometime next week. About sodding time!

koko_PoPs · 20-10-2013 06:14PM

hey lads,
i have a technical question regards plinking.
does plinking reduce the startup by 1 frame?is it enough to plink to the next lighter button to get the extra frame. for instance plinking with the heavy punch, must i plink all the way to the light punch to get the extra frame.

ive been working on a combo of close light punch (+7 hit adv) to close heavy punch (+8 startup)

would appreciate the villages wisdom.
looking forward to mexican typhooning you all sometime soon

Kanped · 20-10-2013 06:16PM

It basically just inputs the button twice, one frame after the other. You can plink off any lighter button, so you can plink HP off Mp (you can plink HK off any other button; you can plick off select / back, too).

This means that if you press the button a frame too soon, the next input will come out a frame later and connect.

D4RK ONION · 20-10-2013 07:27PM

koko_PoPs wrote: »

hey lads,
i have a technical question regards plinking.
does plinking reduce the startup by 1 frame?is it enough to plink to the next lighter button to get the extra frame. for instance plinking with the heavy punch, must i plink all the way to the light punch to get the extra frame.

ive been working on a combo of close light punch (+7 hit adv) to close heavy punch (+8 startup)

would appreciate the villages wisdom.
looking forward to mexican typhooning you all sometime soon

As has been explained by Kanped, plinking simply gives you an input twice, one frame after the other.

If you need to do a 1 frame link from mp to mp (as you might with Makoto for instance) you hit mp and then mp~lp. To do mp~lp you hit mp and then immediately hit lp. So immediately, we're talking like drumming your 2 fingers one after the other.

Desk has a great tutorial here.

and you can see him doing the "finger drumming" on stick here

So to answer your original question, nothing comes out earlier or later. All it does is give you an extra frame to hit 1 frame links (essentially 2 frame links with plinking!)

Nutrient · 20-10-2013 07:28PM

koko_PoPs wrote: »

hey lads,
i have a technical question regards plinking.
does plinking reduce the startup by 1 frame?is it enough to plink to the next lighter button to get the extra frame. for instance plinking with the heavy punch, must i plink all the way to the light punch to get the extra frame.

ive been working on a combo of close light punch (+7 hit adv) to close heavy punch (+8 startup)

would appreciate the villages wisdom.
looking forward to mexican typhooning you all sometime soon

Plinking doesn't add frame advantage to moves, gives 2 oppertunitys to acheive tougher inputs (2 chances for 1F link making it 2F link technically)

You can't link light into Heavy punch unless you get a counter hit, which is I think +1F light counter hit +3 M and +3 Heavy counter hit

koko_PoPs · 20-10-2013 10:05PM

thanks for the responses, but thats the weird thing, it does combo from light punch to heavy. you can try it yourself. ive made sure that counter hit is not on

Kanped · 20-10-2013 10:13PM

I can only get it to combo when counterhit is on.

koko_PoPs · 20-10-2013 10:17PM

Kanped wrote: »

I can only get it to combo when counterhit is on.

i just did it again right now, it clocks 170 damage 2 hit combo, and counter hit is deffinetly not on

K.O.Kiki · 20-10-2013 10:22PM

Nutrient wrote: »

Plinking doesn't add frame advantage to moves, gives 2 oppertunitys to acheive tougher inputs (2 chances for 1F link making it 2F link technically)

You can't link light into Heavy punch unless you get a counter hit, which is I think +1F light counter hit +3 M and +3 Heavy counter hit

I think you have your terminology confused Nutrient.

You can priority-link (PLINK) a HP with a LP, in order to link (combine) them into a 2-hit combo.

PLINK button priority is HK > HP > MK > MP > LK* > LP > Back/Select.

So HP can be PLINK'd with any button lower than it, e.g. HP ~ HP+MP or HP ~ HP+LP will trick the game into reading 2 HP inputs.

*you can only PLINK cr.LK ~ cr.LK+LP / cr.LK+Back. Standing LK~LK+LP will give you throw

koko_PoPs · 20-10-2013 10:34PM

K.O.Kiki wrote: »

I think you have your terminology confused Nutrient.

You can priority-link (PLINK) a HP with a LP, in order to link (combine) them into a 2-hit combo.

PLINK button priority is HK > HP > MK > MP > LK* > LP > Back/Select.

So HP can be PLINK'd with any button lower than it, e.g. HP ~ HP+MP or HP ~ HP+LP will trick the game into reading 2 HP inputs.

*you can only PLINK cr.LK ~ cr.LK+LP / cr.LK+Back. Standing LK~LK+LP will give you throw

so kiki are you saying that plinking does add an extra frame?

also im starting to think the frame data on shoryuken and eventhubs is just innacurate that close heavy punch and kick is inaccurate. that they are both in fact 7 frame startup and not 8

The Hound · 20-10-2013 10:44PM

are you doing the combo on the opponents wake up as a meaty?

Maybe it does combo and the frame data is wrong or hawk got a slight buff

K.O.Kiki · 20-10-2013 10:44PM

koko_PoPs wrote: »

so kiki are you saying that plinking does add an extra frame?

also im starting to think the frame data on shoryuken and eventhubs is just innacurate that close heavy punch and kick is inaccurate. that they are both in fact 7 frame startup and not 8

My frame Data app has
THawk
cl.LP: 3f startup, +7f hit, +3f block
cl.HP: 8f startup, +6f hit, +1f block
cl.HK: 7f startup, +4f hit, +0f block

Try comboing on different characters, and on both standing & crouching characters - different hitboxes react differently and allow some weird combos (e.g. crouching Honda).

Plinking effectively adds an extra frame of input, but you still have to time your button presses right.

Doctor DooM · 20-10-2013 10:47PM

No it doesn't.

Think if it like this. If you had autofire on, 60 frames a second, it still wouldn't let you combo a move with 8 frames of start up after a move with 7 frames advantage.

All plinking does is give you one extra input, like you tapped the button 2 frames in a row.

Dreddybajs · 20-10-2013 10:50PM

Might be hitting meaty so it combos, that or the frame data you're looking at is incorrect.

UberPrinny_Baal · 20-10-2013 10:50PM

Koko, plinking doesn't let you do anything in the game that you can't just do normally with good timing. It's just a little trick to try and minimise human error. If you could perfectly press every button with perfect timing, there would be no reason to bother with it.

For example: So since you can't physically press HP twice within two frames, you drum your fingers across HP, and MP.

The inputs will go into the game as: HP, HP+MP

BUT since HP+MP isn't a valid input, the game just picks whatever buttons is higher priority, which is HP in this case.

So what it ends up taking your inputs as is: HP, HP

It just means that you have two chances to hit the button on the correct frame, rather than just one.

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