Ultra Street Fighter 4 Discussion Thread

koko_PoPs

i get ya, weird. must be some frame data error as im just doing it on a standing opponent no knockdown or anything.
or maybe im neo and there is no spoon!

The Hound

Which character?

koko_PoPs

The Hound wrote: »

Which character?

the last one i did it on was ken

The Hound

I tried it but cant get it to combo

koko_PoPs

The Hound wrote: »

I tried it but cant get it to combo

are you going for close light punch to close heavy punch. it doesnt work using turbo, just in case

K.O.Kiki

Thawk combo:
cl.LP -> cl.HK
works, Hound.

The Hound

koko_PoPs wrote: »

are you going for close light punch to close heavy punch. it doesnt work using turbo, just in case

ye cl lp to cl hp. I cant get it to combo

Kanped

Just in case; you're sure you're on AE2012?

bush

The Hound wrote: »

ye cl lp to cl hp. I cant get it to combo

Scrub

ladnopoka

The Hound wrote: »

I tried it but cant get it to combo

Scrub

Kanped

Did anyone else hit it? I tried again there, I'd say about 100 attempts with no success. Then I turned counter hit on, and got it third try, got it about 75% of the time after that. Counter hit back off, couldn't get it again.

What version of the game are you on? I'm wondering if the game maybe drops slightly below 60 FPS at some times on some systems and causes weird behaviour like this or something. You know, because my execution is flawless, so that's the only explanation

Nutrient

Kanped wrote: »

Did anyone else hit it? I tried again there, I'd say about 100 attempts with no success. Then I turned counter hit on, and got it third try, got it about 75% of the time after that. Counter hit back off, couldn't get it again.

What version of the game are you on? I'm wondering if the game maybe drops slightly below 60 FPS at some times on some systems and causes weird behaviour like this or something. You know, because my execution is flawless, so that's the only explanation

T-hawk is trash, Play Superman

ladnopoka

didnt know where to post this, but over in Russia they found "completely lagless monitor"

http://www.3dnews.ru/770857

One of my friends is using the BENQ G2420HD (the one im using now for myself and i think its lagless)
and he got one of these and he told me that it is much better than the benq.

Just throwing it out there... I dont know myself if this monitor is good or not.

koko_PoPs

Kanped wrote: »

Did anyone else hit it? I tried again there, I'd say about 100 attempts with no success. Then I turned counter hit on, and got it third try, got it about 75% of the time after that. Counter hit back off, couldn't get it again.

What version of the game are you on? I'm wondering if the game maybe drops slightly below 60 FPS at some times on some systems and causes weird behaviour like this or something. You know, because my execution is flawless, so that's the only explanation

im working with pc, so it may be affecting something but that would be pretty shambolic to allow new combos based on systems. its defo AE 2012and counter-hit is defo not on. it seems kiki got it aswell

The Hound

K.O.Kiki wrote: »

Thawk combo:
cl.LP -> cl.HK
works, Hound.

The combo is Close Light Punch to Close Heavy Punch which I cant get to combo Or have I been trying the wrong combo?

koko_PoPs

The Hound wrote: »

The combo is Close Light Punch to Close Heavy Punch which I cant get to combo Or have I been trying the wrong combo?

nah it is cl lp to cl hp.
cllp to cl hk makes sense according to official frame data

koko_PoPs

Kanped wrote: »

Did anyone else hit it? I tried again there, I'd say about 100 attempts with no success. Then I turned counter hit on, and got it third try, got it about 75% of the time after that. Counter hit back off, couldn't get it again.

What version of the game are you on? I'm wondering if the game maybe drops slightly below 60 FPS at some times on some systems and causes weird behaviour like this or something. You know, because my execution is flawless, so that's the only explanation

also according to all versions of street fighter t-hawk has never had a change to his close heavy punch

Rob2D

koko_PoPs wrote: »

im working with pc, so it may be affecting something but that would be pretty shambolic to allow new combos based on systems. its defo AE 2012and counter-hit is defo not on. it seems kiki got it aswell

What's your framerate option set to? I remember seeing something before where if it was set to variable then weird things could happen.

Kanped

There's no way that combo works under normal circumstances. I was hitting it on counter-hit at least 90% of the time and not once without it, even if the cl. HP was triggered by the second input of the plink (I mean, I'm just eyeballing it but it felt that way and it should happen 50% of the time) i.e. the first HP input was too soon to come out. The plink would only work if it's input on the next frame, which means the cl. HP came out as soon as possible and didn't combo. The damage of 170 is correct, though. Something weird going on here, to be sure. Try turning off any AA and filtering, turn Vsync on, double check your framerate settings and see if you can hit it then (this should be identical to console settings, I think).

koko_PoPs

Kanped wrote: »

There's no way that combo works under normal circumstances. I was hitting it on counter-hit at least 90% of the time and not once without it, even if the cl. HP was triggered by the second input of the plink (I mean, I'm just eyeballing it but it felt that way and it should happen 50% of the time) i.e. the first HP input was too soon to come out. The plink would only work if it's input on the next frame, which means the cl. HP came out as soon as possible and didn't combo. The damage of 170 is correct, though. Something weird going on here, to be sure. Try turning off any AA and filtering, turn Vsync on, double check your framerate settings and see if you can hit it then (this should be identical to console settings, I think).

ijust checked vsync on framerate set to smooth, everything else is set to its lowest. im gonna record it and upload it, not gonna be great quality but ill show my training options fiurst then the combo. then let the conspiracy theories abound

Kanped

koko_PoPs wrote: »

ijust checked vsync on framerate set to smooth, everything else is set to its lowest. im gonna record it and upload it, not gonna be great quality but ill show my training options fiurst then the combo. then let the conspiracy theories abound

Framerate set to smooth? Ah, that might explain it. It's supposed to be on 'fixed'. I think 'smooth' actually messes with the framerate more than 'variable'.

K.O.Kiki

Come to casuals and see if you can combo it on console.

Scavenger XIII

Could definitely be an oddity caused by refresh rates, I've seen mad things happen in the past running PS2 games on 50Hz (SC3 hit-grabs losing their active frames, teleporting Terry in KoFMI, etc).

koko_PoPs

i think weve cracked it. yes i cant get it to combo either on steady frame-rate. you should just for the satisfaction change it to smooth and do the combo!

Placebo

whats this, red focus?
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=86873713&postcount=85

K.O.Kiki

Placebo wrote: »

whats this, red focus?
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=86873713&postcount=85

No idea but I hope it doesn't over-complicate SF.

Yreval

http://shoryuken.com/2013/10/24/new-gameplay-mechanics-for-ultra-street-fighter-iv-announced-red-focus-use-of-both-ultras/

First off, players will be able to choose both Ultras, giving them access to two of these powerful attacks at the cost of minimized damage. Also, new Red Focus Attacks will absorb more than one hit, though it does cost two bars to use.

Owwmykneecap

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrUcZyQUl6Y

Location Tests & New Battle Mechanics

Nutrient

Removed unblockables?

...****

Thats fantastic news, cheap characters be damned

Also Red Focus sounds very quirky, will probably be tweaked heavely by release

raah!

They ruined street fighter.