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Breaking Bad Episode 15: Granite State

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    #692
    SweepTheLeg
    Registered Users Posts: 712 ✭✭✭SweepTheLeg


    SheldonC17 wrote: »
    anyone have a link for this weeks ep? cant seem to find a working one anywhere :(

    www.Netflix.com


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    #693
    Chet T16
    Registered Users Posts: 2,320 ✭✭✭Chet T16


    SheldonC17 wrote: »
    anyone have a link for this weeks ep? cant seem to find a working one anywhere :(

    http://movies2.netflix.com/WiMovie/Breaking_Bad/70143836?


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    #694
    LionelNashe
    Registered Users Posts: 1,961 ✭✭✭LionelNashe


    What do people make of the references to Kings:

    Firstly Ozymandias, in the poem is the "King of kings", and Walt must be Ozymandias whose empire was destroyed in the desert. Then the chess board in the fire station with the white king being moved. And when the vacuum guy was dealing the cards in the cabin he said "A king....two kings!".

    If Walt is one king, is there another king? The the only other person who I could think is also a king is Elliot Schwartz; so Walt & Elliot are the white and black kings symbolised by the chess pieces. Hence Gretchen repeating the story about Walt & Elliot's last names (White and Black), to remind us of this. We heard that story in an earlier season; it wasn't that interesting that they needed to repeat it.

    But on the other hand I can't see Elliot & Gretchen having any part in the last episode. It just wouldn't be good writing. It would be like Bogdan making a reappearance.


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    #695
    P.Walnuts
    Registered Users Posts: 4,759 ✭✭✭P.Walnuts


    LionelNashe wrote: »
    What do people make of the references to Kings:

    Firstly Ozymandias, in the poem is the "King of kings", and Walt must be Ozymandias whose empire was destroyed in the desert. Then the chess board in the fire station with the white king being moved. And when the vacuum guy was dealing the cards in the cabin he said "A king....two kings!".

    If Walt is one king, is there another king? The the only other person who I could think is also a king is Elliot Schwartz; so Walt & Elliot are the white and black kings symbolised by the chess pieces. Hence Gretchen repeating the story about Walt & Elliot's last names (White and Black), to remind us of this. We heard that story in an earlier season; it wasn't that interesting that they needed to repeat it.

    But on the other hand I can't see Elliot & Gretchen having any part in the last episode. It just wouldn't be good writing. It would be like Bogdan making a reappearance.

    Interesting, I like that theory.

    Possilby it could refer to Walter and Heisenberg, black and white, good and evil etc

    Although I'm not sure how Walter could be construed as a king :pac:


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    #696
    elefant
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    Vaxxine wrote: »
    Also found it very interesting how the name Grey Matter came about, Scwartz (black), and White, make grey! Very clever :D

    You only coined this now? :confused:


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    #697
    briany
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    Wanderer2010 wrote: »
    2. Brocks mother opens the door in the dead of night to a total stranger who points at a black van across the street and claims Jessie is in it. Instead of slamming the door and ringing the cops she walks straight out and into her death. With her background in a really rough area and her brother being recruited by 2 evil drug dealers to kill rivals, she of all people should be streetwise and clued into public safety and this lapse of judgement was a lot to take. Personally i never cared for the character but this was weak writing..

    Apart from that, bring it on next week!!!

    Yeah, if a strange bloke is knocking on your door after dark, you simply pretend you're not home - like a normal person would. Not that it would do much good with Todd and the boys. Him and the gang would just kick the doors and drag her out by the hair and execute her. She was going to die either way, really. Might as well have been the polite way. But, yeah, I agree it was comparatively weak writing for BB.


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    #698
    Neil McCauleys Cooler Brother
    Registered Users Posts: 167 ✭✭Neil McCauleys Cooler Brother


    The thing about Elliott Schwartz: he is played by a very powerful British actor called Adam Godley. He can do fiery very well indeed. Could it be he is some kind of ultimate evil drug emperor, who will show his "cards" as it were in the final hour? Why would they cast such as actor in the role otherwise?


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    #699
    syngindub
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    Anyone notice how the guy took sol's picture for the ID at the start and some how magically made it appear on the PC without any connection whatsoever. Bluetooth enabled on the Cannon?


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    #700
    batistuta9
    Registered Users Posts: 8,106 ✭✭✭batistuta9


    syngindub wrote: »
    Anyone notice how the guy took sol's picture for the ID at the start and some how magically made it appear on the PC without any connection whatsoever. Bluetooth enabled on the Cannon?

    you get wifi SD cards


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    #701
    murpho999
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    syngindub wrote: »
    Anyone notice how the guy took sol's picture for the ID at the start and some how magically made it appear on the PC without any connection whatsoever. Bluetooth enabled on the Cannon?

    Not magic at all.

    Modern Canon's have wifi nowadays

    Who the hell is Sol by the way?


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    #702
    IvaBigWun
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,368 ✭✭✭IvaBigWun


    I hate to say it, but I felt a bit "meh" to Andrea's shooting. Her and Jesse never felt like as much of a couple (chemistry wise) as Jesse and Jane did.

    And with that, here's a picture of Krysten Ritter


    krysten-ritter-sexy.jpeg


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    #703
    Jikashi
    Registered Users Posts: 1,060 ✭✭✭Jikashi


    Wonder if the final twist of the series will involve the true identity of Flynn's unseen buddy Lewis


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    #704
    P.Walnuts
    Registered Users Posts: 4,759 ✭✭✭P.Walnuts


    IvaBigWun wrote: »
    I hate to say it, but I felt a bit "meh" to Andrea's shooting. Her and Jesse never felt like as much of a couple (chemistry wise) as Jesse and Jane did.

    And with that, here's a picture of Krysten Ritter


    krysten-ritter-sexy.jpeg

    Agree


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    #705
    IvaBigWun
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,368 ✭✭✭IvaBigWun


    Jikashi wrote: »
    Wonder if the final twist of the series will involve the true identity of Flynn's unseen buddy Lewis

    Not a chance. I think people are getting into Lost territory and reading into things too much


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    #706
    syngindub
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,798 ✭✭✭syngindub


    murpho999 wrote: »
    Not magic at all.

    Modern Canon's have wifi nowadays

    Who the hell is Sol by the way?

    my bad..saul


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    #707
    IvaBigWun
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    P.Walnuts wrote: »
    Agree

    In fact Id go as far to say as she was the most miscast actor/actress of the entire show, they never looked like a couple


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    #708
    Son0vagun
    Registered Users Posts: 1,297 ✭✭✭Son0vagun


    I'd recommend watching mr magorium's wonder emporium, twice. The comparisons are uncanny.


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    #709
    ElizaT33
    Registered Users Posts: 191 ✭✭ElizaT33


    Yea I think Everyone reading way too much into the Finale - I think will be much more interesting to Wait and See ...... AND I SERIOUSLY CAN'T!!!

    Apart from the odd criticism, overall the VAST majority on here IMO find the writing of this Series outstanding.. seriously outstanding. I've never been so passionate about a TV series EVER ...!

    And me, I'm 42 (female), an avid fan, my sons (21 and 19), avid fans, my older brother (51) and ALL his family, avid fans ..... just saying!:D

    Sunday dins has a lot of excited conversation around these parts..!:)


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    #710
    Tombo2001
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    my guess is the Nazis are going to kidnap Walt Jr and use him as a ruse to trap Walt.

    That's why Walt wants the guns.

    But the Nazis will trap Walt in the process. The conclusion will be the Nazis telling Walt and Jesse that one of them will survive, the one that can cook the highest quality. Jesse cooks the better meth and Walt is killed.


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    #711
    Tombo2001
    Registered Users Posts: 6,522 ✭✭✭Tombo2001


    IvaBigWun wrote: »
    In fact Id go as far to say as she was the most miscast actor/actress of the entire show, they never looked like a couple


    it was hard to reconcile her with the meth addict prostitute Jesse was with in episode one.


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    #712
    ElizaT33
    Registered Users Posts: 191 ✭✭ElizaT33


    Tombo2001 wrote: »
    my guess is the Nazis are going to kidnap Walt Jr and use him as a ruse to trap Walt.

    That's why Walt wants the guns.

    But the Nazis will trap Walt in the process. The conclusion will be the Nazis telling Walt and Jesse that one of them will survive, the one that can cook the highest quality. Jesse cooks the better meth and Walt is killed.

    I have a feeling Skylar or Marie will kill Walt in the end - after he brings all the money to them! He's got to go down ........... and I think it will be a passion kill, as opposed to a business one ....

    And if so, the irony will be that the cancer NEVER killed him! The entire SERIES will have been in vain .... LOL


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    #713
    banquo
    Registered Users Posts: 9,487 ✭✭✭banquo


    A fitting end if the cancer doesn't kill Walt, he's so meticulous that he'll almost certainly die on his own terms.

    Don't think it'll happen, but it would be kinda cool if he rescued Walt Jr!


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    #714
    P.Walnuts
    Registered Users Posts: 4,759 ✭✭✭P.Walnuts


    Tombo2001 wrote: »
    my guess is the Nazis are going to kidnap Walt Jr and use him as a ruse to trap Walt.

    That's why Walt wants the guns.

    But the Nazis will trap Walt in the process. The conclusion will be the Nazis telling Walt and Jesse that one of them will survive, the one that can cook the highest quality. Jesse cooks the better meth and Walt is killed.

    Sorry, but that makes pretty much zero sense.


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    #715
    Tombo2001
    Registered Users Posts: 6,522 ✭✭✭Tombo2001


    P.Walnuts wrote: »
    Sorry, but that makes pretty much zero sense.


    well boo hoo to you

    EDIT: Sorry, but boo hoo to you I should say.


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    #716
    ElizaT33
    Registered Users Posts: 191 ✭✭ElizaT33


    An interesting watch is Justin Theroux's episode on the Crystal Meth epidemic in the USA - really brings home the level of addiction of this drug and the realities the police deal with - no wonder Walt is the Most Wanted Man ATM:eek:. It's a good parallel to watch


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    #717
    P.Walnuts
    Registered Users Posts: 4,759 ✭✭✭P.Walnuts


    Tombo2001 wrote: »
    well boo hoo to you

    EDIT: Sorry, but boo hoo to you I should say.

    Honestly though, why would the Nazis want to get Walt, after like a year?

    They have no idea he is coming for them (presuming they are on the hit list)


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    #718
    James McNulty
    Registered Users Posts: 89 ✭✭James McNulty


    ElizaT33 wrote: »
    An interesting watch is Justin Theroux's episode on the Crystal Meth epidemic in the USA - really brings home the level of addiction of this drug and the realities the police deal with - no wonder Walt is the Most Wanted Man ATM:eek:. It's a good parallel to watch

    Louis Theroux!


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    #719
    ElizaT33
    Registered Users Posts: 191 ✭✭ElizaT33


    James McNulty wrote: »
    Louis Theroux!

    It's been a long day - sorry! Louis is the one I mean (not Jennifer Aniston's BF) - watched the documentary the other night and was horrified:eek:. Felt very sorry for those people - highly addictive stuff....so destructive !


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    #720
    Fred Swanson
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    #721
    Shout Dust
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    Tombo2001 wrote: »
    my guess is the Nazis are going to kidnap Walt Jr and use him as a ruse to trap Walt.

    That's why Walt wants the guns.

    But the Nazis will trap Walt in the process. The conclusion will be the Nazis telling Walt and Jesse that one of them will survive, the one that can cook the highest quality. Jesse cooks the better meth and Walt is killed.

    nah, Jesse can cook to 96% purity, Walt is up at 99%


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