The Revenge of the Post Here When You Get Something New thread

CiDeRmAn · 22-09-2013 03:10PM

Never understood the attraction of Power Rangers, just an excuse to sell toys to me.
But then, at that time, I was too busy in relationships with girls, some of whom were even aware of it at the time, damn restraining orders, they really cramped my love life back then!

Not retro but got Black Ops 2 for the WiiU for 15, no box or manual but the Ninty club points are still intact.

o1s1n · 22-09-2013 05:28PM

Absolutely hated it. Still do :pac:

Atavan-Halen · 22-09-2013 05:40PM

Yeah but the Girl power rangers were pretty hot.

MrVestek · 22-09-2013 06:18PM

It's a nostalgia thing for me as I loved it when I was a kid.

That and y'know... Kimberly the Pink Power Ranger was hot stuff! She still is ;-)

http://www.hotphotosz.com/data/media/56/Amy_Jo_Johnson_hot_13_original.jpg

murphyebass · 22-09-2013 06:27PM

Is it just me or does she look a bit like ruud van nistleroy

OwaynOTT · 22-09-2013 11:05PM

CiDeRmAn wrote: »

Never understood the attraction of Power Rangers, just an excuse to sell toys to me.
But then, at that time, I was too busy in relationships with girls, some of whom were even aware of it at the time, damn restraining orders, they really cramped my love life back then!

Not retro but got Black Ops 2 for the WiiU for 15, no box or manual but the Ninty club points are still intact.

Ah here, the majority of kids shows are geared towards selling toys. Transformers, Visionaries, MASK, TMNT, He-Man, etc. the difference they were all good, whereas Power Rangers was muck of the highest degree.
Why didn't they just send in the monsters at their big size first and crush the rangers before they could do their thing?

CiDeRmAn · 22-09-2013 11:12PM

My last flirt with cartoons in my teens was Robotech, the english translation of the Macross Saga, that was that for about 5 years until Tiny Toons and Batman:TA revolutionised the genre, brilliant.
Animaniacs are my favourite.

o1s1n · 22-09-2013 11:22PM

Robotech had some amazing toys. I had two growing up for some reason. No notion where they came from as I'd have been playing with them in the mid 90s.

Had this guy

And this fellah. Can't find a picture of the toy though - he was great!

Would have then battling along against my Kenner ED209. Great fun

CiDeRmAn · 23-09-2013 06:48AM

Ah, a toy ED 209.
A toy for kids from a film none of them can legally see!
Robocop was a hard 18 rating.
And doesn't the pointless remake look awful?

o1s1n · 23-09-2013 09:05AM

CiDeRmAn wrote: »

Ah, a toy ED 209.
A toy for kids from a film none of them can legally see!
Robocop was a hard 18 rating.
And doesn't the pointless remake look awful?

Glad I'm not the only one who found this odd! The 80s/90s saw a good few toy lines aimed at kids which were based on 'grown ups' films.

As for that remake, simply awful. Over use of CGI as to be expected. I hope it flops.

MrVestek · 23-09-2013 02:20PM

OwaynOTT wrote: »

Why didn't they just send in the monsters at their big size first and crush the rangers before they could do their thing?

Well because that's just not how the original Sentai liked to do things! If you want to start picking apart the logic of TV shows there'd be no entertainment left to watch.

Like for instance... why do all the monsters just stand around while the rangers are morphing?

How do people in star trek deal with the morals of transportation when you're technically being killed every time you use it?

How the feck does the holodeck even make sense?

o1s1n · 23-09-2013 02:29PM

Achilles wrote: »

How do people in star trek deal with the morals of transportation when you're technically being killed every time you use it?

Heh, was always interested in that. Are you in fact just a clone when you go through a transporter? Is your conscience transported or does your clone have one of his own?

Achilles wrote: »

How the feck does the holodeck even make sense?

Why do the holodeck doors never seem to be locked?

Achilles is in the middle of a steamy holodeck session with a female Kingon warrior in the throws of Jak'tahla - oh look, here comes Wesley Crusher with some of his fellow school chums to use the deck to play ball.

Are the doors locked? Nope. Does Wesley wish the doors had been locked? Most definitely.

The Last Bandit · 23-09-2013 02:42PM

If you take a dump in a holo-potty what happens then the program ends ?

Myrddin · 23-09-2013 02:46PM

o1s1n wrote: »

Why do the holodeck doors never seem to be locked?

Achilles is in the middle of a steamy holodeck session with a female Kingon warrior in the throws of Jak'tahla - oh look, here comes Wesley Crusher with some of his fellow school chums to use the deck to play ball.

Are the doors locked? Nope. Does Wesley wish the doors had been locked? Most definitely.

The doors only ever lock when the crew get trapped inside it, in a 'holodeck goes awry' episode...everybody knows that! :P

MrVestek · 23-09-2013 02:52PM

All I know is if I had a holodeck to play with it'd be a Seven Of Nine / T'Pol sandwich.

o1s1n · 23-09-2013 02:54PM

EnterNow wrote: »

The doors only ever lock when the crew get trapped inside it, in a 'holodeck goes awry' episode...everybody knows that! :P

Safety protocols always manage to disengage at the same time too don't they?

CiDeRmAn · 23-09-2013 03:56PM

Transporters in Star Trek are not of the type that destroys your arrangement of atoms, it apparently converts the matter into energy, dangerous stuff E=mc2, and puts you back together using your pattern. Methods uncertain.
The only ways to move matter like that would be to either fold space, that is translate you from location a to b.
The more likely way is via a wormhole, propped open with exotic matter, then you can shift either the whole of you, or more likely, a beam of your information containing your details that is slotted into a blank at the other end.
That would require the death of your original email your consciousness is despatched across the ether.
I think I'd rather wait for a bus

MrVestek · 23-09-2013 04:25PM

Suffice it to say... stop trying to make sense of science fiction or American works derived from tokusatsu. :P

Jack burton · 23-09-2013 04:41PM

o1s1n wrote: »

Glad I'm not the only one who found this odd! The 80s/90s saw a good few toy lines aimed at kids which were based on 'grown ups' films.

As for that remake, simply awful. Over use of CGI as to be expected. I hope it flops.

Had Robocop and Aliens figures myself as far as I can remember, oh and Predator.

None of which I would see till I was into my teens! its strange but they made for some cool toys

Andrew76 · 23-09-2013 04:43PM

o1s1n wrote: »

...Is your conscience transported or does your clone have one of his own?

Waaaaaaay OT here but your conscience can only be a product of the atoms in your body, carbon copy them and transported o1s1n has the same conscience.

No retro gets for me lately, got some cool wall decals though - astronomy & dinosaurs for the kids bedroom. Had to go buy some superman prints for myself. :pac:

Myrddin · 23-09-2013 05:22PM

Philosophical A&R goodness?? Where's ghostchant, he'd be able to tell us exactly why a transporter as seen in Star Trek is likely an impossibility {it has something to do with quantum mechanics anyway

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Ok screw it, had a tenner spare in Paypal so having recently let this go, I had to do a Cidey & get it again

o1s1n · 23-09-2013 05:23PM

Jack burton wrote: »

Had Robocop and Aliens figures myself as far as I can remember, oh and Predator.

None of which I would see till I was into my teens! its strange but they made for some cool toys

Yeah I had Robocop, Aliens (the Xenomorph queen was amazing!) and Terminator 2 stuff. The robocop figures were really weird the way you could load caps into them and fire them off like a capgun. Don't think I ever used that function even once!

The terminator ones were really cool too. Kenner were the company that made most of the good ones.

Andrew76 wrote: »

Waaaaaaay OT here but your conscience can only be a product of the atoms in your body, carbon copy them and transported o1s1n has the same conscience.

Ah yes but what I mean is - my consciousness as I am now. As in, my self awareness experiencing the world from my own unique vantage point. If you were to carbon copy yourself, it would be a clone, have the same mind, wouldn't be 'you' looking out of that body if you know what I mean. 'You' as you are now, mind and body would literally die and be replaced by a clone.

That's if you were to die in the process (which I think is what would happen in a transporter)

To everyone else you'd just have been transported as your new self would continue with the same consciousness, memories and everything else which makes you you as if nothing had happened.

Suffice to say, I won't be getting into any matter transporters

Andrew76 wrote: »

No retro gets for me lately, got some cool wall decals though - astronomy & dinosaurs for the kids bedroom. Had to go buy some superman prints for myself. :pac:

Amazing! Nothing like when kids get into dinosaurs and space. Great way of getting them to think about life, the universe and everything.

Plus damn fun too

o1s1n · 23-09-2013 05:25PM

EnterNow wrote: »

Philosophical A&R goodness?? Where's ghostchant, he'd be able to tell us exactly why a transporter as seen in Star Trek is likely an impossibility {it has something to do with quantum mechanics anyway }

Ok screw it, had a tenner spare in Paypal so having recently let this go, I had to do a Cidey & get it again

About fecking time that masterpiece was rereleased!

Interested in knowing if any of the music in it was axed due to copywrite.

Myrddin · 23-09-2013 05:27PM

o1s1n wrote: »

Ah yes but what I mean is - my consciousness as I am now. As in, my self awareness experiencing the world from my own unique vantage point. If you were to carbon copy yourself, it would be a clone, have the same mind, wouldn't be 'you' looking out of that body if you know what I mean. 'You' as you are now, mind and body would literally die and be replaced by a clone.

I'm with the Greek Mother here. "You", as you are now, are a product of memory & experience. Such things in my understanding, are nothing more than chemical bonds in the brain. Replicate it exactly {impossible surely?}, & voila, another you.

Myrddin · 23-09-2013 05:28PM

o1s1n wrote: »

Interested in knowing if any of the music in it was axed due to copywrite.

Not that I've noticed yet anyway. I just arrived in Threed eariler on today, & havn't noticed anything missing. Even the Johnny Be Good riff is still intact...

Andrew76 · 23-09-2013 05:54PM

o1s1n wrote: »

Ah yes but what I mean is - my consciousness as I am now. As in, my self awareness experiencing the world from my own unique vantage point. If you were to carbon copy yourself, it would be a clone, have the same mind, wouldn't be 'you' looking out of that body if you know what I mean. 'You' as you are now, mind and body would literally die and be replaced by a clone.

That's if you were to die in the process (which I think is what would happen in a transporter)

To everyone else you'd just have been transported as your new self would continue with the same consciousness, memories and everything else which makes you you as if nothing had happened.

Suffice to say, I won't be getting into any matter transporters

'You' and everything that that encompasses; your thoughts/views/memories/experiences - it's all just physical connections inside your brain. If you could carbon copy those connections then you'd carbon copy 'You'. And you wouldn't know any different. As in there's no floaty ethereal 'me' that couldn't be replicated identically. Imo anyway.

No hope I'd step into a transporter to test that theory though, I've seen the Fly! :pac:

@EnterNow - for a second I thought you'd sold your Wii U! Then realised it couldn't have dropped in price by that much!

o1s1n · 23-09-2013 06:07PM

EnterNow wrote: »

I'm with the Greek Mother here. "You", as you are now, are a product of memory & experience. Such things in my understanding, are nothing more than chemical bonds in the brain. Replicate it exactly {impossible surely?}, & voila, another you.

Andrew76 wrote: »

'You' and everything that that encompasses; your thoughts/views/memories/experiences - it's all just physical connections inside your brain. If you could carbon copy those connections then you'd carbon copy 'You'. And you wouldn't know any different. As in there's no floaty ethereal 'me' that couldn't be replicated identically. Imo anyway.

No hope I'd step into a transporter to test that theory though, I've seen the Fly! :pac:

@EnterNow - for a second I thought you'd sold your Wii U! Then realised it couldn't have dropped in price by that much!

I don't know if I'm getting confused (!) or if we're talking about different things, but I'm not talking about just replicating yourself 1:1.

I'll give you another scenario. You clone yourself identically, physical self, mind, memory, the whole shebang - but without the original you dying. You are you, and then your clone is identical to you in every way possible.

From the moment the clone is alive, you are no longer identical. You are both now experiencing a different reality from different points in time. Therefore the clone is no longer you.

And along those lines, if I'm sitting in my house and my clone in another house - if I die. That is me dead. I don't suddenly transfer my consciousness and being over to the clone.

Any way we can have this conversation split off into an 'Arcade and Retro Existentialism' thread?

Myrddin · 23-09-2013 06:11PM

o1s1n wrote: »

I'll give you another scenario. You clone yourself identically, physical self, mind, memory, the whole shebang - but without the original you dying. You are you, and then your clone is identical to you in every way possible.

From the moment the clone is alive, you are no longer identical. You are both now experiencing a different reality from different points in time. Therefore the clone is no longer you.

Yeah I'd agree with that, from the moment a duplicate is created, it's likely every passing moment the original & duplicate will become more & more different {Thomas Riker

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Anyway, yeah, games & stuff

o1s1n · 23-09-2013 07:11PM

Yep, games and stuff!

Picked up a Megadrive rarity I've never heard of until last week for a good price. ATP Tour. Some obscure tennis game it seems nobody bought!

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/161103336725?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649

CiDeRmAn · 23-09-2013 07:43PM

The nature of human consciousness isn't understood, it maybe that the mere physical connections are not enough, that you would require to know something fundamentally unknowable, like the position and velocity of every particle in your brain, to replicate it right.
This is why they invented the McGuffin The Heisenberg Compensator in the TNG transporter system.
We may have to wait until we can piggy back an integrated computer into the growing brain that can take a snapshot of our mindstate, this can be transmitted to a host.

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