Wentworth Miller declines Russian Film Festival Invite

Karl Stein · 22-08-2013 01:17AM

keith16 wrote: »

I need it to be known that I just don't care and that is a valid response in many cases.

Yes if they're telling you directly but threads are an opt-in type of thing.

DarkJager · 22-08-2013 01:18AM

keith16 wrote: »

Sometimes I do. I need it to be known that I just don't care and that is a valid response in many cases.

Like when someone mentions that Stephen Fry has farted, they need to be told it's something I don't care about.

Nail on the head. It's called an opinion and mine is I couldn't care less about it. You can either like it or leave it but my disinterest in the story doesn't exclude me from stating a personal viewpoint on it. It's a forum after all.

keith16 · 22-08-2013 01:20AM

Cathal Cloch wrote: »

Yes if they're telling you directly but threads are an opt-in type of thing.

Not if they are....dole threads for example. They are so frequent, they are ruining the town.

efb · 22-08-2013 01:21AM

DarkJager wrote: »

Nail on the head. It's called an opinion and mine is I couldn't care less about it. You can either like it or leave it but my disinterest in the story doesn't exclude me from stating a personal viewpoint on it. It's a forum after all.

It would make for a messy forum if people posted their disinterest on all threads they have a disinterest in. Unless they are endeavouring to achieve another outcome

DarkJager · 22-08-2013 01:24AM

efb wrote: »

It would make for a messy forum if people posted their disinterest on all threads they have a disinterest in. Unless they are endeavouring to achieve another outcome

Pretty much the same as a spoiled vote. No interest in the topic but wanting to register your disinterest all the same. Anyway, nothing more to say on this so ill leave ye to it.

crockholm · 22-08-2013 01:25AM

I can see Mother Russia crumbling because of one nearly unknown member of the acting profession unwilling to attend some television/movie award.

efb · 22-08-2013 01:26AM

DarkJager wrote: »

Pretty much the same as a spoiled vote. No interest in the topic but wanting to register your disinterest all the same. Anyway, nothing more to say on this so ill leave ye to it.

I wouldn't call spoiling your vote as registering a disinterest more expressing a dissatisfaction with the establishment

token101 · 22-08-2013 01:27AM

efb wrote: »

I'm sure an opinion can be teased out eventually. If they really didnt care they wouldnt post. What drew them to the topic?

The pointless of it and, to a degree, the hypocrisy of it. Like I said earlier, if enough people genuinely cared the sponsors would drop like flies. That hasn't happened and I'd be willing to bet it won't. The majority of the support is just lip service really. And I do believe that many of these people would happily go to Doha or Dubai for a sun holiday if it was offered.

It's just another online campaign that's become a cause celebre for a few minutes and will probably be forgotten by February or very soon after. I wonder how many people stopped shopping at Primark after the collapse in Bangladesh earlier this year? How much difference did the only campaigns make? **** all, because the unsafe factories are still being worked in.

Lapin · 22-08-2013 01:29AM

Femme_Fatale wrote: »

I always find when I don't give a **** about something I just don't read or post to the thread.

How do you know you don't "give a **** about something" unless you read it first ?

And by the way - I never said I don't give a toss.

I simply said most people "couldn't care less" about the outrage of Wentworth Miller and refered to Stephen Fry as he had some recent input into the same discussion.

Its a simple fact that people in their day to day lives don't care less about LGBT rights in Russia. Its not something that plays on the mind of most hetrosexual people. We know the Russian's record in human rights isn't something to write home about, but you can point to most spots on the globe and say the same thing. But we can't live every waking hour of out lives fretting over gay rights. It doesn't mean we're anti gay or homophobic.

We just have our own lives to live and we're not going to drop everything because some actor has found a publicity seeking cause to latch on to.

But we have as much right to care less as you have to give a toss.

Some find that difficult to accept.

Femme_Fatale · 22-08-2013 01:34AM

Of course you have a right not to care - but I don't see the point in you feeling the need to let people know this, and I suspect you do care some bit otherwise you wouldn't post. That's also just an opinion.

I know I won't care about what a thread is about by reading the title or the opening post.

endacl · 22-08-2013 01:36AM

Let it be hereby noted, to whom it may concern, etc, etc, that I, endacl, give a ****. Speaking only for myself of course, fair play to Wentworth Millar.

Edit: Forgot to mention, yeah. Prison Break was crap.

Lapin · 22-08-2013 01:39AM

Femme_Fatale wrote: »

Of course you have a right not to care - but I don't see the point in you feeling the need to let people know this, and I suspect you do care some bit otherwise you wouldn't post. That's also just an opinion.

I know I won't care about what a thread is about by reading the title or the opening post.

Because if people like me didn't let people like you know that people like me don't give a toss, then people like you would think that everyone gives a toss.

And not everyone gives a toss.

endacl · 22-08-2013 01:41AM

Lapin wrote: »

Because if people like me didn't let people like you know that people like me don't give a toss, then people like you would think that everyone gives a toss.

What other threads that you don't give a toss about, have you commented on this evening?

Interesting.......

Femme_Fatale · 22-08-2013 01:41AM

Lapin wrote: »

Because if people like me didn't let people like you know that people like me don't give a toss, then people like you would think that everyone gives a toss.

No I wouldn't. I'm really not so stupid as to think that.

K-9 · 22-08-2013 01:44AM

This is only addressing a symptom of the whole human rights problem in Putin's Russia.

Lapin · 22-08-2013 01:56AM

endacl wrote: »

What other threads that you don't give a toss about, have you commented on this evening?

Interesting.......

Most of the threads on After Hours don't merit a response.

This one did. Because there was an inherent assumption that everyone should give a toss.

I'm simply saying that most people don't.

If an Aston Villa fan opened a thread here asking why their team won't win the league this year, they would be told to sod off to the soccer forum, but you can be sure it would get a response from non Villa supporters first.

Why should a LGBT thread be any different ?

efb · 22-08-2013 01:59AM

Lapin wrote: »

Most of the threads on After Hours don't merit a response.

This one did. Because there was an inherent assumption that everyone should give a toss.

I'm simply saying that most people don't.

If an Aston Villa fan opened a thread here asking why their team won't win the league this year, they would be told to sod off to the soccer forum, but you can be sure it would get a response from non Villa supporters first.

Why should a LGBT thread be any different ?

An inherent assumption made by whom?

Lapin · 22-08-2013 02:05AM

efb wrote: »

An inherent assumption made by whom?

You.

Insert a an article favourable to your own thoughts and views.

Then post 4 words.

"Fair play to Wentworth"

Its fair to assume you had an inherit assumption that people would agree with your sentiment there.

efb · 22-08-2013 02:06AM

No it's not. I don't know what mental aerobics you used to jump to that conclusion.

Lapin · 22-08-2013 02:13AM

efb wrote: »

No it's not. I don't know what mental aerobics you used to jump to that conclusion.

The volume of posts challenging my tenacity to express an opinion that differs to yours is a start.

Jesus Wept · 22-08-2013 03:51AM

He can't act for sh1t.

SV · 22-08-2013 05:49AM

Lapin wrote: »

The volume of posts challenging my tenacity to express an opinion that differs to yours is a start.

Have you been drunk this entire time?

Gummy Panda · 22-08-2013 08:23AM

Andy Carroll wrote: »

He can't act for sh1t.

Finally someone has said it

Teyla Emmagan · 22-08-2013 08:39AM

Wentworth, if I remember correctly has a white mother and a black father. And his dad is totally black. Yet they produce this white guy with blue eyes. Obama, half black, black guy. Wentworth, half black, white guy. Genes are amazing things.

I'm pretty sure I didn't hallucinate all of this anyway.

cletus van damme · 22-08-2013 08:59AM

Femme_Fatale wrote: »

Loads do. Maybe these pointless "I don't care" posts that some people appear to think look really sharp of them could be done away with in AH and "Yore ma" brought back?
Because "Yore ma" posts are certainly a far, far better contribution.

I think it's important to say "I don't care" - stephen fry has brought this whole thing into the frame and we are being bombarded by the story in the media (and forums) so it's pretty much in my face with people saying "go Stephen".

Saying "i don't care" is valid it's a standing against the back slapping of fry (and now miller) .
to show that it's not a universal gung-ho assault on russia or putin.

there is a difference between that and posting "i don't care" on some petty thread on "nigerian hairdo's paid for by the state shocker".

Annasopra · 22-08-2013 09:41AM

DarkJager wrote: »

Nail on the head. It's called an opinion and mine is I couldn't care less about it. You can either like it or leave it but my disinterest in the story doesn't exclude me from stating a personal viewpoint on it. It's a forum after all.

Honestly - we don't care that you don't care