Wentworth Miller declines Russian Film Festival Invite

efb

http://www.buzzfeed.com/chrisgeidner/wentworth-miller-prison-break-star-comes-out-as-gay-declinin

Fair play to Wentworth.

Lapin

Stephen Fry will be proud.


Most of the rest of us couldn't care less.

B.A._Baracus

He bloody well should.
It's been heavily rumored that Wentworth Miller was in fact gay himself for years now.

Pai Mei

OMG HE'S GAY?!?! Best news I've heard all year! Let the stalking begin :pac:




On further examination it seems I may have well been the last person to know :rolleyes:

TeddyTedson

Great to see. It's always great to see people standing up for their morals.
The world does really seem to be going a bit backwards on this whole gay acceptance thing though. It's increasingly in the news. I wonder will it still be an issue for people in this country in 50 years time or will there be absolutely nobody that bats an eyelid?

Pang

Good on Wentworth!

Absolutely loved him in Prison Break.

Chancer3001

prison break was so class

efb

Lapin wrote: »

Stephen Fry will be proud.


Most of the rest of us couldn't care less.

thats a shame, but I dont think thats true

Femme_Fatale

Lapin wrote: »

Stephen Fry will be proud.


Most of the rest of us couldn't care less.

Loads do. Maybe these pointless "I don't care" posts that some people appear to think look really sharp of them could be done away with in AH and "Yore ma" brought back?
Because "Yore ma" posts are certainly a far, far better contribution.

TeddyTedson

He's quite the dream boat. I'd pay a lot of money to be that good looking!
Oh well, I'll have to stick with my 9/10 appearance :P:D

SV

Pai Mei wrote: »

OMG HE'S GAY?!?! Best news I've heard all year! Let the stalking begin :pac:




On further examination it seems I may have well been the last person to know :rolleyes:

For some reason I think your chances of getting anywhere near him were pretty much the same whether he was gay or straight :pac:

Karl Stein

Fair play. I feel that the change will have to come from within though. The Russians don't really give a **** it seems.

Lapin

efb wrote: »

thats a shame, but I dont think thats true

What isn't true ?

The Stephen Fry reference of the fact that I don't dive a toss ?

Jimmy Iovine

The first season of Prison Break is as good as it gets. Unfortunately, the other seasons drag the overall series down, way down.

Karl Stein

Lapin wrote: »

Most of the rest of us couldn't care less.

Source?

Oh wait - you mean you don't give a shit?

Femme_Fatale

Lapin wrote: »

What isn't true ?

The Stephen Fry reference of the fact that I don't dive a toss ?

No you said most people, not just you. It's clear you don't give a toss so it seems pointless for you to have posted?

KKkitty

Fair play to him. Russia is so backward as regards this.

Vito Corleone

The show would have been nothing without Theodore Bagwell, I miss Prison Break.

efb

Lapin wrote: »

What isn't true ?

The Stephen Fry reference of the fact that I don't dive a toss ?

"the rest of us"

Amirani

Lapin wrote: »

What isn't true ?

The Stephen Fry reference of the fact that I don't dive a toss ?

You changed that now to "I don't give a toss"...That's a bit different to "most of the rest of us couldn't care less."

efb

Fair play to this reporter on Russian State Propaganda News Channel RT

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MEV9O_O7EB8

Chancer3001

anybody bad mouths prison break and im throwing down a chicken foot

Lapin

Femme_Fatale wrote: »

Loads do. Maybe these pointless "I don't care" posts that some people appear to think look really sharp could be done away with in AH and "Yore ma" brought back?
Because "Yore ma" posts are certainly a far, far better contribution.

Responding to a post with the words "I don't care" is a legitimate response.

The meaningless words "Yore Ma" are just that. Utterly meaningless.

People are well entitled to express an opinion here just as the OP did.

By the same token, others are equally entitled to say the don't care.

Femme_Fatale

Lapin wrote: »

Responding to a post with the words "I don't care" is a legitimate response.

The meaningless words "Yore Ma" are just that. Utterly meaningless.

People are well entitled to express an opinion here just as the OP did.

By the same token, others are equally entitled to say the don't care.

And others are entitled to express the opinion that it's a stupid pointless thing to post. Especially one speaking for "most of the rest of us".

efb

Lapin wrote: »

Responding to a post with the words "I don't care" is a legitimate response.

The meaningless words "Yore Ma" are just that. Utterly meaningless.

People are well entitled to express an opinion here just as the OP did.

By the same token, others are equally entitled to say the don't care.

really, I should post on all posts on boards I have no opinion on with "I dont care"?

Lapin

Cathal Cloch wrote: »

Source?

Oh wait - you mean you don't give a shit?

Femme_Fatale wrote: »

No you said most people, not just you. It's clear you don't give a toss so it seems pointless for you to have posted?

NiallSparky wrote: »

You changed that now to "I don't give a toss"...That's a bit different to "most of the rest of us couldn't care less."

Most people have never heard of Wentworth.

SV

Lapin wrote: »

Most people have never heard of Wentworth.

How do you know that?

Pai Mei

SV wrote: »

For some reason I think your chances of getting anywhere near him were pretty much the same whether he was gay or straight :pac:

Well at least we have the same interests Could well be a talking point just to get me started :pac:

Clandestine

efb wrote: »

Fair play to this reporter on Russian State Propaganda News Channel RT

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MEV9O_O7EB8

In fairness, he did bring that up at the wrong time. RT has been covering the Gay propaganda law despite what he has being saying, and they have been leaning toward the western liberal viewpoint in my opinion.

efb

Clandestine wrote: »

In fairness, he did bring that up at the wrong time. RT has been covering the Gay propaganda law despite what he has being saying, and they have been leaning toward the western liberal viewpoint in my opinion.

Not from what I saw. can you give me examples of RT's Western liberal viewpoint?

token101

I'd be willing to bet there's a good proportion of people who are vociferous in this whole campaign to boycott Russia would happily trot off on holidays to far more oppressive places like Dubai and Qatar.

anncoates

B.A._Baracus wrote: »

It's been heavily rumored that Wentworth Miller was in fact gay himself for years now.

Of course he is.

He's called Wentworth.

Lapin

Don't be getting so touchy lads.

If you want to discuss LGBT issues with universal back slapping support for each other, there are forums for that.

Don't get the hump when others disagree with you on After Hours.

I am disgusted and appauled with the manner that the government and police in Russia handle various human rights issues.


But I think the request by Fry and the action by Wentworth are insulting to many others.

Don't come on to After Hours and expect everyone to agree with you.

Femme_Fatale

token101 wrote: »

I'd be willing to bet there's a good proportion of people who are vociferous in this whole campaign to boycott Russia would happily trot off on holidays to far more oppressive places like Dubai and Qatar.

True. But it's part of the human condition not to be 100% consistent though. If we were to place that restriction on ourselves most of us would never speak out about anything. I agree with you on the UAE and the like though.

Clandestine

efb wrote: »

Not from what I saw. can you give me examples of RT's Western liberal viewpoint?

Have you been on their website? Every article I've read from them about this new law they've passed has been very neutral. I personally think they give western voices over Russian voices more attention, but maybe thats just me.
http://rt.com/news/stephen-fry-sochi-gay-propaganda-190/
http://rt.com/news/russia-olympics-gay-law-948/
http://rt.com/news/russia-gay-law-myths-951/

Amirani

Lapin wrote: »

Don't be getting so touchy lads.

If you want to discuss LGBT issues with universal back slapping support for each other, there are forums for that.

Don't get the hump when others disagree with you on After Hours.

I am disgusted and appauled with the manner that the government and police in Russia handle various human rights issues.


But I think the request by Fry and the action by Wentworth are insulting to many others.

Don't come on to After Hours and expect everyone to agree with you.

I didn't take any issue with your disagreement, merely your claim that "most" people shared your disagreement.

Pai Mei

Lapin wrote: »

Don't be getting so touchy lads.

If you want to discuss LGBT issues with universal back slapping support for each other, there are forums for that.

Don't get the hump when others disagree with you on After Hours.

I am disgusted and appauled with the manner that the government and police in Russia handle various human rights issues.


But I think the request by Fry and the action by Wentworth are insulting to many others.

Don't come on to After Hours and expect everyone to agree with you.

The only people they could be insulting are those with similar views to the Russians and I couldn't give a fcuk if it insults them

Femme_Fatale

Lapin wrote: »

If you want to discuss LGBT issues with universal back slapping support for each other, there are forums for that.

How are people doing that?

Don't get the hump when others disagree with you on After Hours.

There isn't really disagreement with what you said, seeing as you didn't really say anything. People were just wondering what the point of it was, as well as questioning how you can speak for most of the rest of us.

But I think the request by Fry and the action by Wentworth are insulting to many others.

Fair enough, you're only saying that now though - at least there's more substance to it than "I don't care".
Personally, Stephen Fry's stupid quote about people who take offence makes it harder for me to take him seriously, but otherwise, what's insulting about what he and Wentworth Miller are doing?

Lucas Castroman

Prison Break???...Surely he'd miss all the shower action

efb

Lapin wrote: »

Don't be getting so touchy lads.

If you want to discuss LGBT issues with universal back slapping support for each other, there are forums for that.

Don't get the hump when others disagree with you on After Hours.

I am disgusted and appauled with the manner that the government and police in Russia handle various human rights issues.


But I think the request by Fry and the action by Wentworth are insulting to many others.

Don't come on to After Hours and expect everyone to agree with you.

I dont but your blasé response was called into question, dont come to After Hours and expect not to be challenged on your statements.

efb

Clandestine wrote: »

Have you been on their website? Every article I've read from them about this new law they've passed has been very neutral. I personally think they give western voices over Russian voices more attention, but maybe thats just me.
http://rt.com/news/stephen-fry-sochi-gay-propaganda-190/
http://rt.com/news/russia-olympics-gay-law-948/
http://rt.com/news/russia-gay-law-myths-951/

I wouldn't say thats neutral at all. I'd call it very selective.

StewartGriffin

Femme_Fatale wrote: »

And others are entitled to express the opinion that it's a stupid pointless thing to post. Especially one speaking for "most of the rest of us".

I disagree. To declare that you do not care is a legitimate comment, look at any opinion poll and see the number of "undecideds" and interpret many of those as "don't cares" (Do you want FF or FG in the next Gov? I don't care, cos they are both the same). I suppose the most relevant comments are the ones who declare WHY they don't care.

token101

Femme_Fatale wrote: »

True. But it's part of the human condition not to be 100% consistent though. If we were to place that restriction on ourselves most of us would never speak out about anything. I agree with you on the UAE and the like though.

I'm not saying people shouldn't speak out. What I'm saying is that earlier poster was right when he said that most people don't care in any meaningful way and are only backing this whole thing because it's the latest cause celebre and Stephen Fry's behind it.

cheesefiend

I know this is just an anecdote and isn't evidence of anything but could explain why there isn't more conversation in Russia. My friend is from Russia, she's fairly well read, keeps up to date with Russian news, talks to her parents everyday on the phone and when I mentioned the controversy surrounding Russia's stance on homosexuality and the Winter Olympics she had absolutely no idea what I was talking about.

She told me that they barely report bad news and that if there was any kind of disturbance in Moscow, be it a crazed gunman or anything negative she wouldn't hear about it in the news. Her family in Armania would, more often than not, be the ones informing them of what happened. The level of propaganda just seems outrageous. I suppose it's not news to anyone else but it surprised me.

efb

token101 wrote: »

I'd be willing to bet there's a good proportion of people who are vociferous in this whole campaign to boycott Russia would happily trot off on holidays to far more oppressive places like Dubai and Qatar.

i wouldn't.

efb

token101 wrote: »

I'm not saying people shouldn't speak out. What I'm saying is that earlier poster was right when he said that most people don't care in any meaningful way and are only backing this whole thing because it's the latest cause celebre and Stephen Fry's behind it.

Or because it means something to them.

Karl Stein

Lapin wrote: »

If you want to discuss LGBT issues with universal back slapping support for each other, there are forums for that.

It's under the 'equality umbrella'.

Well done though. You've defaced the first page telling everyone how little you care.

Lapin

Pai Mei wrote: »

The only people they could be insulting are those with similar views to the Russians and I couldn't give a fcuk if it insults them

So Fry's letter to Cameron wasn't an insult to the hundreds of athletes who have trained for years to participate in the Winter Olympics ?

Femme_Fatale wrote: »

How are people doing that?

There isn't really disagreement with what you said, seeing as you didn't really say anything. People were just wondering what the point of it was, as well as questioning how you can speak for most of the rest of us.

My initial point was a brief response to the OP (whose posts on boards I love and respect by the way). But I don't think anyone can simply come on here, post an equally brief comment with a link and expect everyone to nod in agreement with him.

efb wrote: »

I dont but your blasé response was called into question, dont come to After Hours and expect not to be challenged on your statements.

I'm always happy to accept a challenge. Especially on After Hours.

efb

Lapin wrote: »

So Fry's letter to Cameron wasn't an insult to the hundreds of athletes who have trained for years to participate in the Winter Olympics ?



My initial point was a brief response to the OP (whose post I love and respect by the way). But I don't think anyone can simply come on here, post an wqually brief comment with a lionk and expect everyone to nod in agreement with him.



I'm always happy to accept a challenge. Especially on After Hours.

Where is my expectation of agreement???

Pai Mei

Lapin wrote: »

So Fry's letter to Cameron wasn't an insult to the hundreds of athletes who have trained for years to participate in the Winter Olympics ?.

Well I don't know what that was I was more referring to "Wentworth's actions" as you stated them being insulting. How is not going to a country where he is discriminated against and people like him beaten up "insulting"??

Femme_Fatale

Pai Mei wrote: »

How is not going to a country where he is discriminated against and people like him beaten up "insulting"??

Aye. Bit of a strange one to focus on as the "insulting" one.

Yeh I'm not seeing where people are demonstrating how they only expect agreement and get ass-hurt when disagreed with.

Whatever celebs get behind this, I don't care. So long as there's awareness and the potential to put pressure on those who enforce this.