Stallions

UrbanSea wrote: »

Third but was still beaten a fair way. I can't wait for this years Arc hope to be going are you heading over?

Tied to home due to health problems in the family, but I'll make it at some stage. The best race in the World, bar none.

UrbanSea wrote: »

Le Pomme D'Amour won that gr.2 yesterday at Deauville for the second year running, would be nice to see her get a group 1 for the one and only Celebre

Had been following that one for a while after her excellent win in 2012 with some really top fillies beaten that day. Has been disappointing since, a strange madam that one..

A good performance by a Henrythenavigator colt today, with 3yo Zhiyi finishing 3rd in a very hot GP2 in France with 3 GP1 winners behind. He's out of a stoutly bred mare showing that Henrythenavigator can produce the goods with older horses as well as 2yos, if he gets the right mares.

http://www.racingpost.com/horses/result_home.sd?race_id=585565&r_date=2013-08-15&popup=yes#results_top_tabs=re_&results_bottom_tabs=ANALYSIS

UrbanSea wrote: »

Yeah I saw that think he's a gelding. I know there were 3 gr.1 winners in the field but it sounds better than it is, one was Havana Gold who won a Jean Prat that should no longer be a gr.1, don't think Silasol has trained on and Morandi was disappointing, think he is a soft ground horse

Missed that, you don't expect a 3yo in a race like that to be gelded.:o I notice he dwelt at the start and ran on well in the end, running on is always a good sign.

Don't agree so much about the 3 GP 1 winners being washed up or second rate.

Silasol finished 3rd in the Diane behind your Treve and the Irish Oaks winner, and won the Gp 1 Prix Saint Alary over 10f just before that.

Havana Gold ( loving these tough Teofilos ) did beat the French 2,000 Guineas winner in that prix Jean Prat, but is probably a GP2 horse more than a Gp 1 horse and Morandi beaten 1l by Havana Gold again ran to his French Guineas form ( 6th ) with Havana Gold ( 5th ).

It looks like the Intello form line just isn't as good as we thought he was.

Treve looking good for the ARC.

UrbanSea wrote: »

What do you think of Orpen, just had a look there didn't realise he did so well, 15 group 1 winners according to the RP stallion search. Not bad for a 6k stallion, bit of a funny pedigree.

You can't go far wrong with the Danzig line. Quantity not quality in his GP 1 winners, although he does have a lot of reasonably highly rated pattern horses. He's one of those unsung heroes of the European scene that you don't think too much about until you hear of his pattern winners. At that price he's a good sire as his sales averages were 13k in Europe.

Scat Daddy could be champ in America some day

Not that wild about the US based stallions, but he did the business again today and is very commercial and reasonable at $30,000 a pop.

He's no New Approach or Teofilo.:)

UrbanSea wrote: »

Lady of Shamrock was all the rage last year when I was over there, by far the best three year old filly and from his first crop. Nice versatility, she was a 12 furlong mare and that one today is an absolute speed ball. Think these are from mares when he was 10 or 15 USD.

For forget the really likable Daddy Long Legs, he traded at 1.1 I think in the Irish Guineas

There was a great deal of goodwill towards that horse, an affection way beyond what he actually achieved. I think that Scat Daddy as a stallion has some kind of x factor in peoples imaginations.

UrbanSea wrote: »

Another gr.1 winner for Galileo today. Even though he'll be champion again it has been a very quiet season, Dansili doing much better in recent weeks. Dank another gr.1 winner for him

Quiet by his standards, 5 individual GP1 winners so far, an Irish Guineas winner, an Epsom Derby 1st, 3rd, 4th, 6th and 8th, a French Derby winner. A clatter of GP winners and placed horses and he's now the sire of sires.

That Galileo winner today is out of Dansili's full sister. A nice nick perhaps.

Really looking forward to the Juddmonte this week.

UrbanSea wrote: »

Tryfix I've been thinking about this, who will they send all the daughters of Galileo to. Henry and Fastnet might get some as well as the Juddmonte stallions, but can you see Dansili, Oasis Dream, Fastnet or Henrythenavigator producing a derby winner? Pour Moi is unproven and call me sceptical but I'm not entirely convinced of him

Don't they usually only use their own sires?

There are just so many nicely bred Galileo fillies and mares who are classic producing prospects and who have enough quality form to justify sending them to Stallions of the highest level.

For now they have Galileo himself to give them an endless supply of Derby horses out of the non Galileo mares, and then going on the need for stamina to produce a derby winner they have Pour Moi, High Chaparral, Duke Of Marmalade, all 12f winners at the highest level and worth using.

The Duke has a nice mix of Danehill and Kingmambo, both proven to work with Galileo Mares, and Henry the Navigator has that same Kingmambo line in him, a line which has produced Derby winners Ruler Of The World and Workforce.

So You Think, [SIZE=-1] DI = 0.57 CD = -0.18 [/SIZE]will also produce solid middle distance types. Mastercraftsman is also looking potentially very classy and would put a little speed into the stouter Galileo lines..

Fastnet is fascinating, but it's early days with him in the Northern Hemisphere. If he works out talk of using Dansili will be redundant.

Those A O'Brien War Front Colts are very well put together and will make nice stallions, particularly DOW.

A Golden Age for European Stallions and one that's showing no sign of coming to an end.