Stallions

UrbanSea

Lethal Force to Cheveley Park for next year

tryfix

UrbanSea wrote: »

All of those unproven though that's wherein the problem lies. Cannot see them relying on the Duke for their top class mares, can't buy a 2 year old winner and all his best are fillies.

Holy Roman to get some? Maybe the one and only PENTIRE CELEBRE

Good points, but the Duke has 5 runners out of Galileo mares in his first crop.

Venus De Milo, a top GP 1 filly. Out of a 62 rated mare.

Guinnevre, a 7f listed winning 3yo filly on her debut and only start. Out of a 100 rated mare who didn't win until stepped up to 10f and who won at 14f.

Starbright, a 2yo winner and pattern raced filly up to GP1 class at 7f as a 2yo. Out of a 73 rated 12f Ripon winner.

Martian, a 3yo gelding placed 5th on his only start and should pick up a win soon. Out of an 81 rated mile winner.

Man Of Seville, a winning gelding but at a modest level. Out of a 75 rated mare who only won one race over 10f as a 3yo.

That's a top class return from fairly modest and not precocious non-Coolmore Galileo mares.

He is putting speed and class into staying pedigrees, something which would complement the classier Galileo 2yo winning fillies quite nicely. Give him a nice 100+ rated Galileo mare and he'll be likely to give you back something of equal standing and possibly better .

High Chaparral has no current runners out of Galileo broodmares at all as far as I can see.

Mastercraftsman has no runners out of Galileo broodmares so far either.


Must investigate, and see who they are sending all those Galileo mares to.:)

Johner

Martian won nicely enough in a maiden today at Goodwood.

tryfix

UrbanSea wrote: »

All of those unproven though that's wherein the problem lies. Cannot see them relying on the Duke for their top class mares, can't buy a 2 year old winner and all his best are fillies.

Holy Roman to get some? Maybe the one and only PENTIRE CELEBRE

Had a look again at Peintre Celebre and Holy Roman Emperor.

Not a single Galileo broodmare filly has had a runner by Peintre Celebre.

While Holy Roman Emperor has had 3 runner from Galileo broodmares, the talented Leitir Mor and the not so talented once raced La Chapelle out of Galileo's first classic winner Dermot Weld's Irish 1'000 guineas winner Nightime and Lonrach out of a modest full sister to Scintilulla. No Coolmore owned ones among them.

I know Misty For Me and a few of their top mares have been to Fastnet Rock. It seems that Coolmore are throwing all their Galileo darts at Fastnet Rock, which should produce an awful lot of quality over the next few years. It's what they do, they're trying to produce the most commercial stallion stock they can.

Slattsy

Does O'Brien have any Fastnet horses in training lads?

tryfix

UrbanSea wrote: »

Ballydoyle 2yo

Colts
Four Carat (24/3/11) - Montjeu ex Four Roses
Half brother to Blandford Stakes Gr.2 winner Four Sins
War Command (27/4/11) - War Front ex Wandering Star
Half brother to Prix de Conde Gr.3 winner Naval Officer

(23/2/11) - Danehill Dancer ex Moonstone
Dam is Irish Oaks winner
(15/3/11) - Danehill Dancer ex Queen Cleopatra
Full brother to Navigation Stakes Listed winner Look At Me
(1/4/11) - Danehill Dancer ex Virginia Waters
Half brother to Celebration Stakes Listed winner Emperor Claudius
(24/2/11) - Elusive Quality ex Christmas Kid
Dam won Ashland Stakes Gr.1
(12/4/11) - Fastnet Rock ex American Queen
Half brother to two winners, dam half sister to French Listed winner
(11/4/11) - Fastnet Rock ex Beltisaal
Half brother to Racing Post Trophy Gr.1 winner Kingsbarns
(17/3/11) - Fastnet Rock ex Blue Cloud
Half brother to Leopardstown 1000 Guineas Trial Gr.3 winner Empowering
(16/4/11) - Fastnet Rock ex Blue Dream
Dam half sister to Bordighera (dam of George Washington)
(28/3/11) - Fastnet Rock ex Descant
Dam is half sister to Gr.1 winner Zafonic and Gr.3 winner Zamindar
(4/4/11) - Fastnet Rock ex My Emma
Half brother to Listed winner Moments Of Joy, dam won Yorkshire Oaks Gr.1
(31/3/11) - Fastnet Rock ex Small Sacrifice
From family of Moyglare bred Gr.1 winner Dress To Thrill
(2/4/11) - Fastnet Rock ex Strawberry Roan
Dam is twice Listed winner and full sister to Oaks winner Imagine
(9/3/11) - Galileo ex Again
Dam won Moyglare Stud Stakes and Irish 1000 Guineas
(28/1/11) - Galileo ex Alexander Goldrun
First foal, dam won 5 Gr.1
(11/2/11) - Galileo ex Beauty Is Truth
Half brother to triple Gr.3 winner Fire Lily
(1/3/11) - Galileo ex Bywayofthestars
Dam half sister to Irish Oaks winner Moonstone
(8/2/11) - Galileo ex Chintz
Dam won C.L. Weld Park Stakes Gr.3, from family of Arc winner Solemia
(13/2/11) - Galileo ex Crystal Valkyrie
Half brother to Gr.3 winners Above Average and Sent From Heaven
(25/3/11) - Galileo ex Dancing Shoes
Half brother to La Canada Stakes Gr.2 winner Striking Dancer
(9/4/11) - Galileo ex Dietrich
Half brother to Gr.3 winner Beauty Bright and dam is twice Gr.3 winners
(19/2/11) - Galileo ex Elletelle
First foal, dam won Royal Ascot race of Queen Mary Stakes Gr.2
(27/3/11) - Galileo ex Guaranda
Full brother to Fillies' Stakes Gr.3 winner Gravitation
(7/2/11) - Galileo ex Ice Queen
Dam won Noblesse Stakes Gr.3
(12/4/11) - Galileo ex Khoruna
Half brother to Triple Gr.1 winner Kazzia
(4/1/11) - Galileo ex Looking Back
Full brother to Triple Gr.1 winner Rip Van Winkle
(25/3/11) - Galileo ex Mystical Lady
Half brother to Leopardstown 2000 Guineas Trial Gr.3 winner Furner's Green
(18/4/11) - Galileo ex Mythical Echo
Dam full sister to San Francisco Mile Stakes Gr.2 winner Chinese Dragon
(20/2/11) - Galileo ex One Moment In Time
Dam full sister to dual Gr.1 winner Simply Perfect
(8/4/11) - Galileo ex Ouija Board
Dam won 7 Gr.1 including Oaks, Breeders Cup F&M Turf (x2)
(3/4/11) - Galileo ex Queen Of France
Dam is Listed placed
(18/2/11) - Galileo ex Red Evie
Full brother to C.L. Weld Park Stakes Gr.3 winner Magical Dream
(10/1/11) - Galileo ex Simply Perfect
Dam won Falmount Stakes and Meon Valley Fillies' Mile Stakes
(8/1/11) - Galileo ex Squeak
Dam twice US Gr.1 winner
(18/4/11) -Galileo ex Trading Places
Dam half sister to July Stakes Gr.3 winner Wharf
(4/4/11) - Galileo ex Withorwithoutyou
Half brother to Golden Jubilee Stakes Gr.1 winner Art Connoisseur
(19/3/11) - Giant's Causeway ex Galleon Of Gold
Half brother to US Gr.1 winner Game Face
(7/2/11) - High Chaparral ex Inchmina
Family of EP Taylor Stakes Gr.1 winner Miss Keller
(17/3/11) - High Chaparral ex Night Teeny
Half brother to Oaks d'Italia Gr.2 winner Night Of Magic
(12/2/11) - High Chaparral ex Rainbow Queen
Dam half sister to Gr.3 winner Stella Blue
(3/5/11) - Holy Roman Emperor ex Song Of The Sea
Full brother to Jersey Stakes Gr.3 winner Ishvana
(21/2/11) - Holy Roman Emperor ex Tyranny
Half brother to Gr.1 winner Zoffany
(10/2/11) - Henrythenavigator ex Good Time Sally
Granddam is Gr.3 winner, family of Ivyanna who won Italy Oaks Gr.1
(26/2/11) - Henrythenavigator ex Peeping Fawn
Dam won 4 Gr.1
(4/5/11) - Mastercraftsman ex Moore's Melody
Half brother to Solario Stakes Gr.3 winner Talwar
(26/4/11) - Mastercraftsman ex Plume Rouge
Dam won Fairy Bridge Stakes Listed
(17/2/11) - Mastercraftsman ex Weekend Fling
Half brother to Gr.3 placed Royal Empress
(6/3/11) - Montjeu ex Belesta
First foal, dam half sister to Gr.3 winner In Clover
(20/3/11) - Montjeu ex Dance Parade
Dam won Gr.3 twice
(24/3/11) - Montjeu ex Dibenoise
Full brother to Gr.1 winners Recital and Corre Caminos
(18/2/11) - Montjeu ex Helsinki
Half brother to Gr.1 winner Shamardal
(26/2/11) - Montjeu ex Honorlina
Dam full sister to twice Gr.1 winner Vahorimix
(24/2/11) - Montjeu ex Hula Angel
Dam won Irish 1000 Guineas
(4/4/11) - Montjeu ex Jewel In The Sand
Dam won Cherry Hinton Stakes Gr.2
(21/4/11) - Montjeu ex Lasting Chance
Half brother to Hong Kong Derby & Hong Kong Gold Cup winner Collection
(8/4/11) - Montjeu ex Love Me True
Half Brother to 5 times Gr.1 winner Duke Of Marmalade
(24/3/11) - Montjeu ex Lucina
Dam half sister to triple Gr.3 winner Blue Monday
(17/2/11) - Montjeu ex Marquesa
Dam half sister to Gr.3 Beauty Bright
(26/2/11) - Montjeu ex Metaphor
Dam half sister to Craven Stakes Gr.3 winner King Of Happiness
(28/4/11) -Montjeu ex Mixed Blessing
Dam won Princess Margaret Stakes Gr.3
(10/4/11) - Oasis Dream ex Attraction
Dam is unbeaten 2yo and won Irish 1000 Guineas and 1000 Guineas
(8/4/11) - Oasis Dream ex Galaxy Highflyer
Dam half sister to Gr.1 winners Kayf Tara, Opera House and Zee Zee Top
(27/4/11) - Oasis Dream ex I'm In Love
Half brother to US Gr.3 winner More Than Love
(7/2/11) - Oasis Dream ex Lesson In Humility
Dam won Ballyogen Stakes Gr.3
(6/5/11) - Oasis Dream ex Littlefeather
Dam half sister to 4 times Gr.1 winner Marling
(10/3/11) - Oasis Dream ex Masskana
Half brother to Hong Kong Cup Gr.1 winner Eagle Mountain
(25/2/11) - War Front ex Dancing Trieste
From family of Argentina Gr.1 winners La Galerie and Gouache
(25/2/11) - War Front ex Golden Toast
From family of Gr.3 winner Desert Quiet
(20/5/11) - War Front ex Rule One
Dam half sister to US Gr.3 winner Lady Digby
(2/5/11) - Yeats ex Bleu Ciel Et Blanc
Half brother to 4 time Gr.1 jump winner Binocular

UrbanSea wrote: »

Fillies
Joya (16/4/11) - Galileo ex Secrete Marina
Half sister to Gr.2 and triple Gr.3 winner Joanna

(21/4/11) - Danehill Dancer ex Quarter Moon
Dam won Moyglare Stud Stakes
(22/1/11) - Fastnet Rock ex Delphinium
Half sister to Gallinule Stakes Gr.3 winner Hebridean
(28/3/11) - Fastnet Rock ex Lady Icarus
Half sister to Gr.3 winner Furner's Green
(5/5/11) - Fastnet Rock ex Leonia
From family of Germany Gr.1 winners Lando and Laroche
(5/4/11) - Fastnet Rock ex Sea Picture
Dam half sister to Yorkshire Oaks Gr.1 winner Hellenic
(7/5/11) - Galileo ex Anna Karenina
Full sister to Beresford Stakes Gr.2 winner Battle Of Marengo
(17/3/11) - Galileo ex Bonnie Byerly
Half sister to US Gr.2 winner Diabolical
(28/4/11) - Galileo ex Doula
Full sister to twice Gr.3 placed Amazing Beauty
(29/3/11) - Galileo ex Halfway To Heaven
Full ister to Gr.2 placed Flying The Flag, dam is triple Gr.1 winner
(4/2/11) - Galileo ex Halland Park Lass
Full sister to Gr.2 winner Up and half sister to twice Gr.1 winner Dutch Art
(2/2/11) - Galileo ex Jude
Half sister to Gr.1 winners Quarter Moon and Yesterday
(20/3/11) - Galileo ex Massarra
Half Sister to Gr.1 winner Nayarra
(18/1/11) - Galileo ex Rumplestiltskin
Dam won Moyglare Stud Stakes
(1/5/11) - Galileo ex Secret Garden
Full sister to Irish 2000 Guineas winner Roderic O'Connor
(1/5/11) - Galileo ex Shadow Song
Full sister to Gr.1 winner Together and half sister to Gr.1 winner Jan Vermeer
(9/1/11) - Galileo ex You'resothrilling
Dam won Cherry Hinton Stakes Gr.2 also full sister to Giant's Causeway
(14/3/11) - Giant's Causeway ex Imagine
Half sister to Gr.1 winner Horatio Nelson, Full to Gr.2 winner Viscount Nelson
(14/3/11) - Mastercraftsman ex Sogno Verde
Half sister to Railway Stakes Gr.2 winner Lilbourne Lad
(24/1/11) - Montjeu ex Cherry Hinton
Full sister to Rockfel Stakes Gr.2 winner Wading
(6/5/11) - Oasis Dream ex All Too Beautiful
Half sister to Cheshire Oaks Listed winner Wonder Of Wonders
(29/1/11) - Oasis Dream ex Slink
Dam full sister to Gr.1 winner Sulk and half sister to Gr.1 winner Eagle Mountain
(19/3/11) - Smart Strike ex Silk And Scarlet
Half sister to Gr.1 winners Eishin Apollon and Master Of Hounds

Slattsy wrote: »

Does O'Brien have any Fastnet horses in training lads?

Here's a list of O'Brien's 2 yo's, thanks to Urban. Why aren't they running, have any run? They're so classily bred they just have to be good?

UrbanSea

Bit surprised, they may not be as forward as you'd anticipate, can't blame it on soft ground

tryfix

UrbanSea wrote: »

Bit surprised, they may not be as forward as you'd anticipate, can't blame it on soft ground

They may not be as good as their pedigrees appear to make them look. Bar Beltisaal the Dams are a very mixed bunch.

This bunch Of Fastnet Rock's look like an experiment/trial run with Mares that they wouldn't be expecting a huge return from.

The next batch of Fastnets will as far as I know contain some choice broodmares compared to this one.

tryfix

Coolmore bought a $2.5million War Front yearling colt that should be making its way to O'Brien for next year. That's some wedge of cash, looking forward to seeing it race next year.

http://bloodstock.racingpost.com/news/bloodstock/magnier-secures-2-5m-war-front-colt/1529015/

SRFC

Four Carat is a flying machine of O Briens 20 lb better than Australia :pac:

Colonel Sanders

Another group winning filly for Holy Roman Emperor at Gowran Park

tryfix

2 new GP 1 winners for Galileo, our old friend Seville formerly of A O'Brien's yard won a GP1 over 12f in Australia yesterday and Altano won the GP1 Prix Du Cadran at Longchamp today.


That brings his GP 1 winners total so far this this year to 7.

The other 5 are Ruler Of The World, Intello, Magician, Linton, Romantica.

UrbanSea

Aqlaam died. Hade made a decent start to stud

Colonel Sanders

tryfix wrote: »

2 new GP 1 winners for Galileo, our old friend Seville formerly of A O'Brien's yard won a GP1 over 12f in Australia yesterday and Altano won the GP1 Prix Du Cadran at Longchamp today.


That brings his GP 1 winners total so far this this year to 7.

The other 5 are Ruler Of The World, Intello, Magician, Linton, Romantica.

How many has he got in total now Trifix?

Must be a silly number for a stallion that is still relatively young

tryfix

Colonel Sanders wrote: »

How many has he got in total now Trifix?

Must be a silly number for a stallion that is still relatively young

38 individual GP 1 winners, a few of them are Southern Hemisphere ones.

Has a bit to go yet to catch the old man...:)

tryfix

tryfix wrote: »

They may not be as good as their pedigrees appear to make them look. Bar Beltisaal the Dams are a very mixed bunch.

This bunch Of Fastnet Rock's look like an experiment/trial run with Mares that they wouldn't be expecting a huge return from.

The next batch of Fastnets will as far as I know contain some choice broodmares compared to this one.

Well one of them ran and won. Red Rocks Point the Fastnet Rock x My Emma colt won at Dundalk.

http://www.racingpost.com/horses/result_home.sd?race_id=587854&r_date=2013-09-27&popup=yes#results_top_tabs=re_&results_bottom_tabs=ANALYSIS

Probably the best bred of them and he's entered in Dewhurst next weekend.

UrbanSea

Rip van winkles selling very very well

Colonel Sanders

Group 1 winner for Authorised today

Is that his first?

kiers47

Colonel Sanders wrote: »

Group 1 winner for Authorised today

Is that his first?

The horse that won the pretty polly this year Ambivalent is also out of Authorised. Saying that it was a horrendous group 1. I think he could have had a winner or 2 in Australia to.

UrbanSea

Had one other Aus one, but overall quite poor the highest RPR of them is 111 very poor for gr.1 winners

kiers47

UrbanSea wrote: »

Had one other Aus one, but overall quite poor the highest RPR of them is 111 very poor for gr.1 winners

I said it at the time but that pretty polly was one of the worst group 1's ive ever seen.
Quite poor results alright at least todays winner is fairly unexposed and could have more to offer in black types next season.

UrbanSea

Yeah but still think it was a terrible race. Dancing rain was a nice mare but that race should not be a gr1

Colonel Sanders

Group 1 winner for Mastercraftsman

Add to that a Group 3 winner at Leopardstown too

UrbanSea

Nice for Mick Hussey too his first group win and his first win for Ballydoyle since starting down there

Johner

Mastercraftsman is the man!

UrbanSea

That Amazing Maria looks a really nice filly too

tryfix

Colonel Sanders wrote: »

Group 1 winner for Mastercraftsman

Add to that a Group 3 winner at Leopardstown too

He's looking like a ready made replacement for his old man. Definitely worth giving him a few of those choice Coolmore Galileo mares to see if he push on to bluechip stallion status.

UrbanSea

Most Improved to Coolmore, can't say I'd be rushing to him but his top class looking Hurricane Run brother Ectot won a gr.1 today. Off the top of my head that St James' that he won is one of the worst in recent history

UrbanSea

Big big increase for Iffraaj to 25 k. Dubawi now 100k sterling, Helmet at 8GBP, the wonderfully bred Imperial Monarch to Coolmore NH. Out of a half sister to Oscar he is one I'll look forward to


Masterstroke was very disappointing but he could throw up some smart ones at 3k, probably more of a NH type though but what a pedigree


New Approach 80 GBP is quite a lot. Very surprised Shamardal or Raven's Pass are the same as last year

bellybuster12

UrbanSea wrote: »

Big big increase for Iffraaj to 25 k. Dubawi now 100k sterling, Helmet at 8GBP, the wonderfully bred Imperial Monarch to Coolmore NH. Out of a half sister to Oscar he is one I'll look forward to


Masterstroke was very disappointing but he could throw up some smart ones at 3k, probably more of a NH type though but what a pedigree


New Approach 80 GBP is quite a lot. Very surprised Shamardal or Raven's Pass are the same as last year

Iffraaj was excpected but taught it would be the 20k, 25k still seems fare.

Any word on Dandy mans price for this season? Don't think he will still be available at 3/3.5k