Rate My Team thread

Lemlin · 11-08-2013 12:23AM

touts wrote: »

Bale hasnt had much of a preseason so even if he is still at Spurs when the window shuts he will not be up to speed. Plus Soldado will take a chunk of goals off him. He cant live up to the 12m price. Plus I do think he will be gone. Levy is just playing hardball to squeeze out every euro he can and he also wants to finish making their signings before the other teams realise Spurs have 100m to spend.

RVP is the best striker in the Premiership but I dont think this will be a good year for Utd. They have a tough start. They have not played well in pre-season. They won a poor league last year but this year City and Chelsea look much stronger. Moyes is already showing signs of struggling under the pressure. He cant seem to land any of the transfer targets he has set and the Rooney thing seems to have spooked him. Every team will fancy a cut off the champions with the mighty Fergie gone. RVP will probably be the top striker again this year but not by enough to justify spending an extra 4-6 million on him versus the likes of Negredo Bony Soldado Lukaka Sturridge etc. Using that cash to boost the entire forward line and midfield will yield a much higher return over the season.

I think United made an error appointing Moyes. He hasn't the name to attract big stars from Europe.

I can't help feeling Fergie jumped ship when he knew the time was right too. An ageing central defensive partnership, a lack of creative spark in central midfield, the wingers he had bought all struggling and the Rooney issue.

Mr.Prodston · 11-08-2013 12:56AM

Lemlin wrote: »

I think United made an error appointing Moyes. He hasn't the name to attract big stars from Europe.

I can't help feeling Fergie jumped ship when he knew the time was right too. An ageing central defensive partnership, a lack of creative spark in central midfield, the wingers he had bought all struggling and the Rooney issue.

Aside from RVP last season when did Fergie even chase a big star from Europe? the fact Moyes is chasing midfielders is positive. As with any team there is uncertainty after a manager leaves, not to mind one of the greatest after 26 years. You could say the same thing 2 seasons ago too though.

Indeed as a whole United are very unattractive FPL options from the get go but that's not Moyes' fault. After the first 3 weeks we should know how they'll line up and overall have a very promising set of fixtures hence forth. They could be solid defensively making De Gea and Rafael essential properties. If Nani gets fit and plays as Moyes like him he's a bargain. Kagawa is more attainable at 8.0 than 9.0. Hernandez could well be a fixture, likewise Rooney may or may not have a new lease of life.

I think it's ridiculous to say Moyes is struggling before a competitive ball has been kicked which from an FPL situation makes us understandably wary. The GW3 wildcard could see a heavy shift towards United though. Obviously it could all go horribly wrong which is why we'll have to play the waiting game.

manual_man · 11-08-2013 01:06AM

pretty settled on this and quite happy

GW2 plan to take a hit to take out Cech and Lukaku for a cheap keeper and Soldado. Anelka i have my doubts on but he's cheap and won't be playing him every week, seems to have done well in pre-season too

Opinions welcome

Scrappylad · 11-08-2013 05:21AM

Bump

Scrappylad wrote: »

Any Thoughts. I'm very undecided this year.

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Lemlin · 11-08-2013 06:07AM

manual_man wrote: »

pretty settled on this and quite happy

GW2 plan to take a hit to take out Cech and Lukaku for a cheap keeper and Soldado. Anelka i have my doubts on but he's cheap and won't be playing him every week, seems to have done well in pre-season too

Opinions welcome

Why take the risk on Cech for the DGW just to take a hit to get him out? The max he could get you is probably 12 points. Your knocking that down to 8 with the hit.

If he concedes even 1 in a match, that max becomes 8. You're knocking it down to 4 with the hit.

IMO you're better off just going with the 'keeper you want from the start. If they get 6 chances are they'll be near enough what Cech got you with the hit.

I also fail to see the point re the risk with Lukaku. As I've pointed out on the player watch list thread, there is talk of him or Ba going out on loan.

For me, there was too much uncertainty over the Chelsea strikers in January when there was only 2. Now there's 3 and Lukaku may play both games of course but my own view is I'm not taking the risk.

Soldado has a game against Palace so may score as many as Lukaku over the two games anyway.

If it was me I'd just go with Soldado and your cheap keeper from the start. You're placing too much emphasis on the DGW and tieing up your first transfer which could be used to bring in a form player e.g. I got Michu straight in last year.

Trig1 · 11-08-2013 06:28AM

Any thoughts on this team??

F1ngers · 11-08-2013 07:15AM

Trig1 wrote: »

Any thoughts on this team??

Maybe you could give us your thought process on picking this team.

I think you need to do a little research.

kevinroche3333 · 11-08-2013 07:44AM

Scrappylad wrote: »

Bump

I like it alot apart from Gabbidon in defence. Palace on paper are the worst team in the league and with Holloway as manager cannot be expected to be clean sheet merchants! I think you should bring in Walcott for Cazorla and use the .5 to upgrade Gabbidon to numerous 4.5 options including M Turner,Clyne,Shaw,Collins etc. Otherwise excellent team.

Steel Dog · 11-08-2013 10:12AM

Scrappylad wrote: »

Any Thoughts. I'm very undecided this year.

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Cazorla to Walcott which will save you .5

With that .5 upgrade Foster to Mignolet.

City seem to be letting in alot of goals pre-season and Pelegrini plays an attacking style so they could concede alot this season. I would downgrade Zabaleta to a 4.5/5.0 defender for now anyway and upgrade Gabbidon and Chester.

roryc · 11-08-2013 10:24AM

manual_man wrote: »

pretty settled on this and quite happy

GW2 plan to take a hit to take out Cech and Lukaku for a cheap keeper and Soldado. Anelka i have my doubts on but he's cheap and won't be playing him every week, seems to have done well in pre-season too

Opinions welcome

Why have you gone with Anelka, only to leave the extra cash on your bench in Snodgrass?

Steel Dog · 11-08-2013 10:30AM

Lemlin wrote: »

I can't help feeling Fergie jumped ship when he knew the time was right too. An ageing central defensive partnership, a lack of creative spark in central midfield, the wingers he had bought all struggling and the Rooney issue.

I know this is the wrong forum for this but I have to disagree with 3 0f your 4 points.

Man Utd have not had a constant central defensive partnership in a few seasons and it has not really been a problem for them.

Yes you are correct about the creative spark in midfield but this was hardly the reason for Fergies retirement.

The wingers he bought struggled last season only. Valencia had a great 2011/2012 season and Nani had a very poor season last year, his first poor season in a number of years.

And finally the ''Rooney issue'' as you call it, do you honestly think Wayne Rooney kicking up a fuss was a reason for Fergie retiring. You should ask Japp Stam, David Beckham, Ruud Van Nistelrooy or Roy Keane to name a few on that one.

Lemlin · 11-08-2013 11:00AM

Steel Dog wrote: »

I know this is the wrong forum for this but I have to disagree with 3 0f your 4 points.

Man Utd have not had a constant central defensive partnership in a few seasons and it has not really been a problem for them.

Yes you are correct about the creative spark in midfield but this was hardly the reason for Fergies retirement.

The wingers he bought struggled last season only. Valencia had a great 2011/2012 season and Nani had a very poor season last year, his first poor season in a number of years.

And finally the ''Rooney issue'' as you call it, do you honestly think Wayne Rooney kicking up a fuss was a reason for Fergie retiring. You should ask Japp Stam, David Beckham, Ruud Van Nistelrooy or Roy Keane to name a few on that one.

In fairness it is the right forum because we're discussing how we think United will perform. Maybe the wrong thread though.

Tbh you're agreeing re the wingers. Both struggled last year. And you've forgotten Ashley Young who struggled too. Football is a fickle world. You're only as good as your last season. Hence talk of the board wanting rid of Nani to Monaco.

In terms of the defensive partnership, maybe not a problem in previous seasons but with Mourinho back I expect a far better battle from Chelsea than previously.

Nah, not Rooney on his own but a combination of factors added together like those I have stated above.

Maybe I'm wrong and maybe Moyes will be a success. I like Moyes alot but that doesn't stop me thinking United should have aimed their sights higher.

What I'm not interested in is getting in an argument with United fans over it so we'll agree to disagree.

manual_man · 11-08-2013 11:16AM

Lemlin wrote: »

Why take the risk on Cech for the DGW just to take a hit to get him out? The max he could get you is probably 12 points. Your knocking that down to 8 with the hit.

If he concedes even 1 in a match, that max becomes 8. You're knocking it down to 4 with the hit.

IMO you're better off just going with the 'keeper you want from the start. If they get 6 chances are they'll be near enough what Cech got you with the hit.

I also fail to see the point re the risk with Lukaku. As I've pointed out on the player watch list thread, there is talk of him or Ba going out on loan.

For me, there was too much uncertainty over the Chelsea strikers in January when there was only 2. Now there's 3 and Lukaku may play both games of course but my own view is I'm not taking the risk.

Soldado has a game against Palace so may score as many as Lukaku over the two games anyway.

If it was me I'd just go with Soldado and your cheap keeper from the start. You're placing too much emphasis on the DGW and tieing up your first transfer which could be used to bring in a form player e.g. I got Michu straight in last year.

Fair points. I have thought about it though. None of the cheap keepers i'd be looking at look likely for a clean sheet GW1, hence picking Cech (who i think will get at least 1). Lukaku scored again last night and tbh i don't buy into the loan rumours, he's had a fantastic pre-season, though you're right Soldado does have a nice fixture so it's a tough one to call. Think it's worth the risk, but as always hindsight will tell us if it was or not

manual_man · 11-08-2013 11:16AM

roryc wrote: »

Why have you gone with Anelka, only to leave the extra cash on your bench in Snodgrass?

Huh? It's only GW1, not sure which one of the two to bench tbh

Lemlin · 11-08-2013 11:26AM

manual_man wrote: »

Fair points. I have thought about it though. None of the cheap keepers i'd be looking at look likely for a clean sheet GW1, hence picking Cech (who i think will get at least 1). Lukaku scored again last night and tbh i don't buy into the loan rumours, he's had a fantastic pre-season, though you're right Soldado does have a nice fixture so it's a tough one to call. Think it's worth the risk, but as always hindsight will tell us if it was or not

Fair enough reasoning. All we can do is go on our hunches.

Last year I put plenty of careful thought into building my team around Aguero and he didn't last the first half!

roryc · 11-08-2013 11:29AM

manual_man wrote: »

Huh? It's only GW1, not sure which one of the two to bench tbh

Yeah I would just be wary of having a situation where you're leaving big players on the bench, and at £6.5m I would consider Snodgrass a mid-priced player. Not necessarily a bad move though but I would consider how often he will be on the bench.

qwabercd · 11-08-2013 11:41AM

roryc wrote: »

Yeah I would just be wary of having a situation where you're leaving big players on the bench, and at £6.5m I would consider Snodgrass a mid-priced player. Not necessarily a bad move though but I would consider how often he will be on the bench.

If you're going with anelka and a mid priced midfielder their fixtures should rotate. Otherwise you will have a headache over who to pick in gw1 when they're both at home, and will have to play one of them away from home in gw2. Gaston ramirez at 6m could be a decent alternative, although probably a bit risky.

manual_man · 11-08-2013 12:00PM

Lemlin wrote: »

Fair enough reasoning. All we can do is go on our hunches.

Last year I put plenty of careful thought into building my team around Aguero and he didn't last the first half!

Very true the game can be utterly unpredictable you have to think on your feet. Not going near Bale anyway. I imagine if he's not sold this week the saga could well run right until deadline day, meaning he might not be risked in games, or if he is his head will be elsewhere

manual_man · 11-08-2013 12:05PM

qwabercd wrote: »

If you're going with anelka and a mid priced midfielder their fixtures should rotate. Otherwise you will have a headache over who to pick in gw1 when they're both at home, and will have to play one of them away from home in gw2. Gaston ramirez at 6m could be a decent alternative, although probably a bit risky.

Yeah i'm not sure i'm tempted to go with Zaha, if he starts today i might draft him in

remoteboy · 11-08-2013 12:35PM

Ok here's my first pass. Think it's about halfway there. Seems a bit Liverpool heavy but I fancy all those players to do a job.

Goalkeepers
Mignolet 5.5m
Stekelenburg 5m

Defenders
Richards 5.5
Coleman 5.0
Terry 6.0
M. Turner 4.5
Rosenior 4.0

Midfielders
Walcott 9.5
Hazard 9.5
Gerrard 9.0
Miralas 7.5
Bellamy 5.5

Forwards
Benteke 9.0
Sturridge 9.0
Anelka 5.5

Lemlin · 11-08-2013 12:44PM

manual_man wrote: »

Very true the game can be utterly unpredictable you have to think on your feet. Not going near Bale anyway. I imagine if he's not sold this week the saga could well run right until deadline day, meaning he might not be risked in games, or if he is his head will be elsewhere

Well all the papers reckon the price is agreed but the wrangling now is Levy arguing over what players will be swapped/how the payments will be made. Di Maria and Coentrao are mentioned alot but the argument now is meant to be over what their value is.

Apparently Levy is a notorious bast*** to negotiate, which in fairness you'd have to be to be in his position, so it could drag on.

Bumble_Beans · 11-08-2013 01:12PM

Well here's my team. Think I'm gonna take the risk on lukaku plus think benteke is going run riot this season after watching him preseason. Any criticism welcome

Also this team leaves me with 4m in the bank to change things up.

roryc · 11-08-2013 01:27PM

Baker, Sidwell, Colback... NO, NO, NO.

Shocking picks imo. Baines is not worth it either and you've doubled up on Everton defenders. And £4m in the bank? Why!?

qwabercd · 11-08-2013 01:30PM

Sidwell not the worst pick. Has scored a few preseaon and at 5m he can always nick the odd goal.

Bumble_Beans · 11-08-2013 03:15PM

roryc wrote: »

Baker, Sidwell, Colback... NO, NO, NO.

Shocking picks imo. Baines is not worth it either and you've doubled up on Everton defenders. And £4m in the bank? Why!?

Ok the reason for the £4m and cheap subs is only for the first 3 games so I have some cash to buy any players off the radar. I know there not great subs but all three should get there game if I need to use them. As for Baines I agree with you. Any suggestions on who I should bring in?

Danger781 · 11-08-2013 03:16PM

Bumble_Beans wrote: »

Ok the reason for the £4m and cheap subs is only for the first 3 games so I have some cash to buy any players off the radar. I know there not great subs but all three should get there game if I need to use them. As for Baines I agree with you. Any suggestions on who I should bring in?

Coleman

Bumble_Beans · 11-08-2013 04:17PM

Danger781 wrote: »

Coleman

He's already in my squad, think ill wait to see if Baines moves to Man U.
RVP looked in good form today he's just too expensive.

iba · 11-08-2013 04:38PM

Would appreciate your veiws on this team please guys:

roryc · 11-08-2013 04:46PM

Get rid of Bale (to Mirallas, Silva, Coutinho) and use the cash to upgrade Colback and O'Shea.

iba · 11-08-2013 05:12PM

How about now:

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