The NoFap Challenge

Grayson · 02-08-2013 04:15PM

Friend Computer wrote: »

Can't speak for Vito but I'm getting an air of Victorian attitudes here. Human sexuality isn't dirty, it's not something to be ashamed of or looked at as if it needs to be reined in like a wild beast. This is normal, healthy behaviour.

If you have a problem with addiction that's fine but it's your problem and it's not a problem most other people encounter. If you don't like porn that's also fine but again, drop the holier-than-thou attitude.

Who was like that? I don't think I've seen anyone infer that people who aren't doing nofap are worse people.

snausages · 02-08-2013 04:15PM

Fantasising about sex is completely different to watching porn. Porn controls and directs your arousal in a way that sex fantasies do not. Which is why some people will waste so much time looking for the 'right' video.

c_man · 02-08-2013 04:35PM

1ZRed wrote: »

There is a bit of truth in the old wives tales that **** causes hair loss, but only in extreme, excessive situations -like having a pull 5+ times every solid day, 365.

Friend Computer · 02-08-2013 04:52PM

Grayson wrote: »

Who was like that? I don't think I've seen anyone infer that people who aren't doing nofap are worse people.

I don't like naming-names but Eraman's comments vis-á-vis pornography--the bit you highlighted was specifically about pornography, not NoFap in general--are really starting to grate. Though it's not really what he's saying but how he's saying it.
The idea that people have "a relationship" with porn and that without it they can find "real relationships".

Well, okay... maybe for him that's the case but projecting his--it looks like--problems onto others isn't really doing his arguments any favours.

Grayson · 02-08-2013 05:07PM

Friend Computer wrote: »

I don't like naming-names but Eraman's comments vis-á-vis pornography--the bit you highlighted was specifically about pornography, not NoFap in general--are really starting to grate. Though it's not really what he's saying but how he's saying it.
The idea that people have "a relationship" with porn and that without it they can find "real relationships".

Well, okay... maybe for him that's the case but projecting his--it looks like--problems onto others isn't really doing his arguments any favours.

He's half right. A lot of the stuff on nofar is about people who don't have the drive to actually bother approacjhing women. And those that do say they have different conceptions of sex, which damages their relationship. But that's not to say that there aren't people who manage both porn & sex.

Talib Fiasco · 02-08-2013 05:17PM

Lol I'm going to try this for the laugh. I know I can last a month without visiting Dr. Hans Jerkov. Day 2 I guess?

Oranage2 · 02-08-2013 05:22PM

NatashaSS wrote: »

I don't think anyone once said masturbation or porn is immoral. The message is that you can improve yourself by not ****.

I dont think that's the message either, its more like you can improve yourself by not dining it if porn and masturbation seriously effects your life.

Though I have skipped over all the science and preachy posts -

Daveysil15 · 02-08-2013 06:04PM

Grayson wrote: »

He's half right. A lot of the stuff on nofar is about people who don't have the drive to actually bother approacjhing women. And those that do say they have different conceptions of sex, which damages their relationship. But that's not to say that there aren't people who manage both porn & sex.

Approaching women after a lenghty spell of no fapping would probably result in an unwanted boner while talking to them. Also, if you were to meet a girl who wanted to sleep with you, you'd more than likely suffer from pre-mature ejaculation.

I think sex would always be on my mind if I went through a no fap challenge. I'd be trying too hard with the women and they can smell the desperation. Fap before your date and you won't be trying as hard, like that scene from There's something about Mary. Just be careful where it lands.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Ep_35qLFbo

Daveysil15 · 02-08-2013 06:30PM

NatashaSS wrote: »

Only one way to find out, try it for a month.

Nah the longest I went was 3 weeks and it was awful. As I already mentioned, it interferes with my sleep. I keep waking up with boners. Wet dreams ha... more like wet nightmares.

Vito Corleone · 02-08-2013 06:45PM

Eramen wrote: »

I'm taking this as a lesson in typical Irish begrudgery.

Begrudgery over someone not ****? Stop embarrassing yourself with this bullshit.

Eramen · 02-08-2013 06:53PM

Friend Computer wrote: »

Can't speak for Vito but I'm getting an air of Victorian attitudes here. Human sexuality isn't dirty, it's not something to be ashamed of or looked at as if it needs to be reined in like a wild beast. This is normal, healthy behaviour.

If you have a problem with addiction that's fine but it's your problem and it's not a problem most other people encounter. If you don't like porn that's also fine but again, drop the holier-than-thou attitude.

Hold on a sec, there is no 'Victorian attitude' being expressed, nobody is saying masturbation is wrong, and in fact you're implying falsely that people here are saying 'sex is dirty' when this is just not the case at all.

All we are saying is that focusing you're attention elsewhere, away from hardcore porn and masturbation, can bring about greatly beneficial life changes in a persons existence, being that it can act as a source of discipline and thus prompt a person to take character building & fruitful actions. Diets, exercise, learning skills and productive hobbies can also be that same source of discipline, it's the same with voluntary celibacy for a period/s of time.

It could be argued that a significant number of young men especially have dealings with porn and **** where it has gone beyond healthy or normal. Most of my friends would be on some level, be forming or have formed addiction to hardcore porn, accompanied by the solo handshake. They are not an exception. They are not 'oddities', they are average, normal guys. We talked about this many times and agree that this situation is possibly endemic in our society, this negative effect of hardcore porn & fapping on work and relationships.

It seems what you are saying is just a representation of current popular culture, which is so prevalent today. It's the lines which we've heard all before: That masturbation is 'good/normal' and to suggest that someone might take time-out, away from the distraction of extreme porn coupled with masturbation for personal development reasons, is ludicrous [even moreso if they have a problem]. I don't believe so and you may have it backwards. This needs to be brought out into the open even more so that people can be informed of the benefits of all sides - and not one side only.

Friend Computer · 02-08-2013 07:16PM

Eramen wrote: »

Hold on a sec, there is no 'Victorian attitude' being expressed, nobody is saying masturbation is wrong, and in fact you're implying falsely that people here are saying 'sex is dirty' when this is just not the case at all.

I'm going to address this at the end as it ties into the end of your post.

All we are saying is that focusing you're attention elsewhere, away from hardcore porn

Oh, so now you'd like to make a distinction? Because earlier it was just "porn".

and masturbation, can bring about greatly beneficial life changes in a persons existence, being that it can act as a source of discipline and thus prompt a person to take character building & fruitful actions. Diets, exercise, learning skills and productive hobbies can also be that same source of discipline, it's the same with voluntary celibacy for a period/s of time.

Understandable but I don't accept that you're denying yourself anything other than what's perfectly normal.

It could be argued that a significant number of young men especially have dealings with porn and **** where it has gone beyond healthy or normal.

It could be argued they don't. See how productive this is?

Most of my friends would be on some level, be forming or have formed addiction to hardcore porn, accompanied by the solo handshake. They are not an exception. They are not 'oddities', they are average, normal guys. We talked about this many times and agree that this situation is possibly endemic in our society, this negative effect of hardcore porn & fapping on work and relationships.

So because of your limited experience you think it might be "endemic"?

It seems what you are saying is just a representation of current popular culture, which is so prevalent today. It's the lines which we've heard all before: That masturbation is 'good/normal'

nobody is saying masturbation is wrong

And yet you imply it right here. If it's normal then it's not wrong. So which is it?

Why say it's a "line" unless you're implying that it's not normal?

and to suggest that someone might take time-out, away from the distraction of extreme porn coupled with masturbation for personal development reasons, is ludicrous [even moreso if they have a problem]. I don't believe so and you may have it backwards. This needs to be brought out into the open even more so that people can be informed of the benefits of all sides - and not one side only.

Yes, if someone is addicted then it's a problem but it's the addiction that's the problem and it's their problem, not something that can be extrapolated onto the entirety of the rest of society. I keep saying it but I don't mind if people are doing it because they have a problem just don't pretend that everyone else is in the same boat. It's dishonest.

And if they want to do it because they feel it may be beneficial to them then more power to them. But I won't accept a resurgence in the idea that masturbation is wrong and something to be ashamed of and shied away from. If people want to repress their sexuality that's also fine but don't peddle that crap onto others.

the_monkey · 02-08-2013 07:50PM

Reminds me of back in the days of magazines as a source for fap material
I was having a great fap looking at Club international and it was ruined when the shopkeeper asked me was I going to buy that or what ??

02-08-2013 11:44PM

NatashaSS wrote: »

I don't think anyone once said masturbation or porn is immoral. The message is that you can improve yourself by not ****.

There's a serious conflation going on.

PizzamanIRL · 02-08-2013 11:58PM

I can't believe there's a serious-ish discussion in after hours, and it's about ****.

Anyway day 2 done. It's getting harder

Oranage2 · 03-08-2013 04:43AM

Day 2 completed

Another easy day, nothing really to tempting happened, I did find myself fondling myself as I watched the walking dead but not to sexual, but that will have to stop if I want to be successful, I find wake up time and bed time the hardest periods as well as my idle time.

So far I haven't noticed any major positives or negatives, I did go for a cycle last night out of boredom, on another day I might have just jacked it, though couldn't sleep last night that well and this morning I had a semi from the time I woke up till the time I went to work which was a good 30 plus minutes.

I can see it getting tough from now on in.

Oranage2 · 03-08-2013 04:49AM

Day 2 completed

Another easy day, nothing really to tempting happened, I did find myself fondling myself as I watched the walking dead but not to sexual, but that will have to stop if I want to be successful, I find wake up time and bed time the hardest periods as well as my idle time.

So far I haven't noticed any major positives or negatives, I did go for a cycle last night out of boredom, on another day I might have just jacked it, though couldn't sleep last night that well and this morning I had a semi from the time I woke up till the time I went to work which was a good 30 plus minutes.

I can see it getting tough from now on in.

Daveysil15 · 03-08-2013 08:37AM

Is there going to be a prize awarded at the end of all of this?

Ilik Urgee · 03-08-2013 08:38AM

Daveysil15 wrote: »

Is there going to be a prize awarded at the end of all of this?

Yup. A bucket.

losthorizon · 03-08-2013 10:02AM

Bozo Skeleton wrote: »

I mean, how hard can it be? I reckon I could pull it off no problem.

Are you talking literally or metaphorically as a matter of interest.

Oranage2 · 03-08-2013 04:52PM

Today has been tough day, woke up went to work, had a 4 hour break so came home for a sleep,everything grand so far.

After the sleep I went for a shower, was having a number 2 and got really hard, so I went on the phone to take my mind of it and Googled no fap, extremely erotic imagines popped up so I couldn't resist and clicked in, next of all I started edging(masturbating but stopping before orgasm). I looked up at the mirror across from me and a sad naked pathetic man sitting on a toilet masturbating whilst holding his 3 quarter inch smart phone looked back at me, then it hit me, that pathetic loser was me, I took a shower feeling ashamed of myself and just thinking what's the point that I should just Jack of and give up but then I remembered the saying ' failure isn't falling down, failure is not getting up!'

although I hit my lowest point so far I reckon I made more positive strides than negative. it hasn't changed my life yet but I think I'm on the road of becoming a better person.

Daveysil15 · 03-08-2013 05:14PM

Oranage2 wrote: »

Today has been tough day, woke up went to work, had a 4 hour break so came home for a sleep,everything grand so far.

After the sleep I went for a shower, was having a number 2 and got really hard, so I went on the phone to take my mind of it and Googled no fap, extremely erotic imagines popped up so I couldn't resist and clicked in, next of all I started edging(masturbating but stopping before orgasm). I looked up at the mirror across from me and a sad naked pathetic man sitting on a toilet masturbating whilst holding his 3 quarter inch smart phone looked back at me, then it hit me, that pathetic loser was me, I took a shower feeling ashamed of myself and just thinking what's the point that I should just Jack of and give up but then I remembered the saying ' failure isn't falling down, failure is not getting up!'

although I hit my lowest point so far I reckon I made more positive strides than negative. it hasn't changed my life yet but I think I'm on the road of becoming a better person.

That's a very small smart phone you have.

Oranage2 · 03-08-2013 05:17PM

Daveysil15 wrote: »

That's a very small smart phone you have.

Sorry meant 3 and 3 quarter inch

Daveysil15 · 03-08-2013 05:21PM

Oranage2 wrote: »

Sorry meant 3 and 3 quarter inch

Still small. Although I suppose its how you use it that counts.

Oranage2 · 03-08-2013 05:28PM

Daveysil15 wrote: »

Still small. Although I suppose its how you use it that counts.

I find a bigger one too large and awkward to handle and it feels to uncomfortable and bulgy in my pants.

03-08-2013 09:54PM

Oranage2 wrote: »

Today has been tough day, woke up went to work, had a 4 hour break so came home for a sleep,everything grand so far.

After the sleep I went for a shower, was having a number 2 and got really hard, so I went on the phone to take my mind of it and Googled no fap, extremely erotic imagines popped up so I couldn't resist and clicked in, next of all I started edging(masturbating but stopping before orgasm). I looked up at the mirror across from me and a sad naked pathetic man sitting on a toilet masturbating whilst holding his 3 quarter inch smart phone looked back at me, then it hit me, that pathetic loser was me, I took a shower feeling ashamed of myself and just thinking what's the point that I should just Jack of and give up but then I remembered the saying ' failure isn't falling down, failure is not getting up!'

although I hit my lowest point so far I reckon I made more positive strides than negative. it hasn't changed my life yet but I think I'm on the road of becoming a better person.

Ah good, turns out you were just taking the piss.

camel jockey · 04-08-2013 12:51AM

Failed four of five times in the last 24 hours. Expecting to fail again in the next half hour.

Oranage2 · 04-08-2013 05:32AM

Deleted User wrote: »

Ah good, turns out you were just taking the piss.

Nah man, I'm really doing it, completed day 3 and a good few hours into day four.

Its getting tough, all I can think about is not fapping, I couldn't sleep last night either and I'm getting blue balls I think its called when your testicles start hurting.

So far to the no fapping challenge I've only suffered negatives, as I said all I think about is "don't fap don't fap, before id fap and move on with my life.
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Maybe someone can tell me when the benefits start happening, I'll stick with though see how long I can hold out though I'm off work at 7 and I can see me coming home and having a marathon **** session.

hatrickpatrick · 04-08-2013 07:46AM

Foxhound38 wrote: »

Presumably there are downsides though? Aggression perhaps - I'd presume after a few weeks you'd be willing and capable of ripping a grown man in two like a phonebook if he was blocking your line of sight to a girl! :pac:

And the world is far better off without th- I mean no, c'mon I'd never do anything like that :pac:

pastorbarrett · 04-08-2013 09:13AM

Away with this trite. In my own case, I've been thinking I need to get in a bit more. I'm finding it hard to surmise why knocking one off would result in decreased dopamine levels, depression etc? What would be the biological implications of that? And surely the body takes cares of business when it's good and ready anyways, ie wet dream.

Bate away to your hearts content, I say...

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