The NoFap Challenge

02-08-2013 06:07AM

Oranage2 wrote: »

I'm only my second day into this so I'm no expert but id imagine its the equivalent to a fat kid on diet putting chocolate cake in his mouth but not wanting to swallow.

Life's not worth living if you can't sit with your hand down your kacks and a beer in the other hand once in a while.

PizzamanIRL wrote: »

1 day done and my boxers are smelling fresh. The tissue supply in the house is at a decent level.

What do you usually use your boxers for?

PizzamanIRL · 02-08-2013 06:12AM

Deleted User wrote: »

Life's not worth living if you can't sit with your hand down your kacks and a beer in the other hand once in a while.

What do you usually use your boxers for?

They usually get a bit of a stain on the inside you know.

02-08-2013 06:18AM

PizzamanIRL wrote: »

They usually get a bit of a stain on the inside you know.

I'll just leave that to hang like the bad fart it is. :pac:

Seriously though, any genital contact counts as masturbation now? If someone is actually worried that touching their peepee now and then is a medical/physiological/psychological issue then it's professional help they should be seeking, not following something on Reddit.

12gauge dave · 02-08-2013 06:23AM

Just seen this and Ill give it a go starting from now.

keeponhurling · 02-08-2013 06:33AM

The longer this goes on would you not have a stiffy almost permanently?
Going to sleep, when you wake up etc.

If I had a 24-hour stiffy, I'd feel like nature was trying to tell me something.....

Oranage2 · 02-08-2013 06:39AM

Deleted User wrote: »

I'll just leave that to hang like the bad fart it is. :pac:

Seriously though, any genital contact counts as masturbation now? If someone is actually worried that touching their peepee now and then is a medical/physiological/psychological issue then it's professional help they should be seeking, not following something on Reddit.

Nah I'm just doing it for the challenge, I think the guys on reddit have a serious addiction to porn and not being able to get hard without it.

I don't think anyone is sayin that jacking off is a problem, who doesn't enjoy a beer and hands in your pants while watching Ellen - One of lifes finest pleasures.

02-08-2013 06:51AM

Oranage2 wrote: »

I don't think anyone is sayin that jacking off is a problem, who doesn't enjoy a beer and hands in your pants while watching Ellen - One of lifes finest pleasures.

Yeah ya just gotta focus on her and don't think about her wife. :pac:

--Kaiser-- · 02-08-2013 09:26AM

Grayson wrote: »

Incidentally, there's a comedy film about porn addiction with Joseph Gorden-Levitt and Scarlet Johansson due to be released soon.

Well, if you're jacking off when you have Scarlett Johansen in another room you've definitely got a problem

Foxhound38 · 02-08-2013 10:00AM

I'm trying it out of curiousity more than anything else - barable so far, even if I did need something to distract me away from the morning wood. If I feel like ripping a dude in half like a phonebook for getting in the way of my line of sight to a wimminz then I'll know it's time to call a halt to the experiment and have a ****

And as far as I know the challenge is just not to fap - sehkz is grando

Mr Benevolent · 02-08-2013 10:10AM

Eramen wrote: »

The view that you must fap to be 'normal', or that it's always a healthy practice, as we hear time and time again, is now outmoded. We know this isn't always the case.

You're trying to demonise masturbation. That's sad. Personally I haven't had a fap in a few weeks and haven't noticed any difference, mainly because unlike advocates of the nofap regime, I have a girlfriend.

1ZRed · 02-08-2013 10:20AM

I hate how this is going overboard. Too much masturbation to the point of being compulsive and addictive = bad. Beating one to two out a day or few days = healthy and normal.

Nobody in the world could tell you otherwise. I think the lads who say all fapping is unhealthy or whatever have had their own problems with overdoing it. It's kinda like the recovered alcoholic telling us all drinking is terrible and leads to addiction.

I'm off it and I'm going to do it. I'm still going to have sex when it arises but I'm not going to fap. Everything is going into sex, just to see like. I'm doing it out of curiosity and to see if I can do it really

Foxhound38 · 02-08-2013 10:21AM

Mr Benevolent wrote: »

You're trying to demonise masturbation. That's sad.

Why does the idea of people voluntarily and for their own purposes calling a halt to it for a while, for whatever reason (curiousity, addiction, training etc) offend you so?

Mr Benevolent wrote:

Unlike advocates of the nofap regime, I have a girlfriend.

Well done you - here's a blue peter badge and a basket of stuff, we're all so proud of you!

02-08-2013 10:23AM

Honey-ec wrote: »

Of course your penis can't, but your brain can.

But in what relevant ways? How? Where? I get the feeling too many conclusions are being read into too little data. I see no reason to think that a lot of mastrubation is any more (or less) harmful than a lot of sex for example. Why would it be. I have an above average quantity of sex. I see no difference in my hair or body mass or mood or personal well being or motivation or social skills than anyone else - even those getting none at all.

I think all I am managing to get from the posts on this thread is that some people are engaging in the following thought process:

1) Some people have a masturbation addiction.
2) For those people giving up entirely resulted in benefits.
3) Therefore giving up masturbation is a good and beneficial thing.

The Jump from 2 to 3 is what I am not getting.

Mr Benevolent wrote: »

He trots that one out on a regular basis. Not sure whether to feel sorry for him or the women he's with.

At least I can stay on topic

Eramen wrote: »

For me, most, though not all, of these claims stood true.

Then one is simply left wondering how much mastrubation such people are engaged in that the cessation of it showed a measurable increase in their quality of life. For example I am a very very moderate alcohol drinker. Ceasing to drink it at all would have quite literally no effect on my quality of life. I shudder to contemplate what level of intake I would have to reach before ceasing to drink it would become a beneficial choice for me.

So if abstaining from masturbation markedly improved your life I can only wonder just how often you were engaged in it.

Eramen wrote: »

Sexual abstinence was, and still is, practiced as a tool for personal improvement and well-being in some parts.

So are crazy forms of eneme and diets and self flaggelation and more. Just because something is __practised__ with the view of attaining a certain end - that in no way suggests it __actually works__ or is a useful means of attaining that end.

Pointing out therefore that sexual abstinence is and was practised for self improvement says literally nothing at all about whether it has any effect whatsoever on self improvement.

Grayson · 02-08-2013 11:57AM

Deleted User wrote: »

I think all I am managing to get from the posts on this thread is that some people are engaging in the following thought process:

1) Some people have a masturbation addiction.
2) For those people giving up entirely resulted in benefits.
3) Therefore giving up masturbation is a good and beneficial thing.

The Jump from 2 to 3 is what I am not getting[/URL].

Most people haven't been saying that and you're just trying to be argumentative. Over and over again it's been explained that it's excessive **** that's the problem. You're just trying to troll.

Femme_Fatale · 02-08-2013 11:58AM

Foxhound38 wrote: »

And as far as I know the challenge is just not to fap - sehkz is grando

There's not really a challenge then surely?

Dravokivich · 02-08-2013 12:15PM

Grayson wrote: »

Breathing isn't a choice. **** is. Unless you walk around whipping it out in public. Does the judge believe you when you use the excuse "I'm sorry, but I just had to".

That's quite a crazy rationalisation, because "fapping" doesn't generally lead to going around and doing it in the street, which is why I went for the obscure reference that breathing is why people get lung cancer.

snausages · 02-08-2013 12:17PM

Femme_Fatale wrote: »

There's not really a challenge then surely?

It's mostly just for people who are stuck in a rut in their lives or have other problems. ie, people who aren't getting laid at all or have ED or whatever.

Ush1 · 02-08-2013 12:19PM

Surely there is a serious risk of blue balls?

Hande hoche! · 02-08-2013 12:59PM

Ush1 wrote: »

Surely there is a serious risk of blue balls?

Maybe wet dreams drain you? :pac:

Eramen · 02-08-2013 01:34PM

There still seems a lot of confusion to what NoFap is and isn't, such as it's solely for the porn-addicted [it's not], and what purpose it serves.

Have a gander at a vid from a genuinely cool guy I'm subbed to on YT, he'll set you straight on what you may/may not experience plus what to expect. I know it'll be hard to bring some self-reflection to people on this topic in our modern culture where the "I fap, therefore I am" mentality reigns in pop culture & where it's considered that it's the normal thing to do, or that should be. It's not normal. What's normal is what works best for you and produces a better person.

This is why I think NoFap should be considered and a person should even take a shot at it. Theoretically they have nothing to lose and all to gain. You might even end up pleasantly surprised!

shruikan2553 · 02-08-2013 02:06PM

wendell borton wrote: »

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coolidge_effect

Sent that link to my girlfriend. Should get an interesting result.

Vito Corleone · 02-08-2013 02:14PM

Day 1 complete and I am now going out with a supermodel and have got a promotion at work. Thank you NoFap for changing my life around. :rolleyes:

02-08-2013 02:16PM

Grayson wrote: »

Most people haven't been saying that and you're just trying to be argumentative.

I am telling you what I am getting from their side of the discussion. There is no argument there or any attempt to start one. I genuinely am not getting any more from the discussion that what I just listed.

If you feel there is something I am missing then by all means point it out.

Grayson wrote: »

Over and over again it's been explained that it's excessive **** that's the problem.

Which is my point. But not all people agree. Look at Eramens post a few below yours for example. There is no indication there that we are speaking only of the porn or mastrubation addicts. It comes across as a general recommendation to all.

And I see nothing at all to suggest that it will benefit the average Joe or Jane at all.

There was also the suggestion in that post that people should be focussing on what is good for them or makes them a better person. I disagree. There is plenty of space in life for value neutral pursuits that people do for no other reason than they want to, or enjoy it. Going to watch a movie in the cinema for example does not better me as a person and is likely not "good" for me. I see no reason not to do it however. I enjoy it.

Eramen · 02-08-2013 02:54PM

Vito Corleone wrote: »

Day 1 complete and I am now going out with a supermodel and have got a promotion at work. Thank you NoFap for changing my life around. :rolleyes:

I'm taking this as a lesson in typical Irish begrudgery. Don't ride on people who are simply trying improve to their lot and better themselves.

Hatin' ?

TheHeretic · 02-08-2013 03:10PM

Call Me Jimmy wrote: »

I believe you (not that anyone shouldn't) that it has had positive effects on your psyche. Similarly, I gave up cigarettes which took significant will power. From that gain of psychological confidence I decided I would get back into regular yoga I had stopped about 2 months previous. I started running consistently. I overcame a voice inside my head that said I can't control myself in any way shape or form.

And so the no fapping, I would say (this is not scientific): from times I've gone without I felt more purposeful, I literally had more spunk about me it felt. Complete abstinence from masturbation AND porn I don't think is necessary but it could be a good challenge to one's self. I use porn but I think it can get a stage (when single) that you become a bit numb to it.

Overall I think the NoFap Challenge might be a good thing not in terms of scientifically proven health benefits but in terms of calling into question in the minds of people who overly rely on Porn/Fapping that it might be perfectly normal and fine. It is normal and fine, but I just think it could be somewhat transformative in some cases.

I vouch for this very sensible post.

Also I'm very curious about this now. I **** .. semi-regular.. if you get me, but I really think I'm going to take a break and give it shot.

Why not?

Friend Computer · 02-08-2013 03:15PM

Can't speak for Vito but I'm getting an air of Victorian attitudes here. Human sexuality isn't dirty, it's not something to be ashamed of or looked at as if it needs to be reined in like a wild beast. This is normal, healthy behaviour.

If you have a problem with addiction that's fine but it's your problem and it's not a problem most other people encounter. If you don't like porn that's also fine but again, drop the holier-than-thou attitude.

PizzamanIRL · 02-08-2013 03:25PM

Well this thread is turning out to be a barrel of laughs.

snausages · 02-08-2013 04:02PM

Friend Computer wrote: »

Can't speak for Vito but I'm getting an air of Victorian attitudes here. Human sexuality isn't dirty, it's not something to be ashamed of or looked at as if it needs to be reined in like a wild beast. This is normal, healthy behaviour.

If you have a problem with addiction that's fine but it's your problem and it's not a problem most other people encounter. If you don't like porn that's also fine but again, drop the holier-than-thou attitude.

Sex/masturbation might be natural but porn isn't really. It's not like our ancestors had the luxury of instant access to xhamster on their iPads or phones or whatever.

Honey-ec · 02-08-2013 04:05PM

snausages wrote: »

Sex/masturbation might be natural but porn isn't really. It's not like our ancestors had the luxury of instant access to xhamster on their iPads or phones or whatever.

Porn has been around pretty much since humans developed the ability to draw. It's the amount of it and the ease of access that's a recent development.

Mr Benevolent · 02-08-2013 04:09PM

snausages wrote: »

It's not like our ancestors had the luxury of instant access to xhamster on their iPads or phones or whatever.

Errr... yes they did. The human mind is far better at creating porn than xHamster.

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