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Nexus 4 ordering process

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,243 ✭✭✭DECEiFER


    Edit: just want to add that when looking at performance the nexus will perform worse in benchmarks but will probably have better real world performance and less lag and stutters because it doesn't have the over head of touchwiz and sense. I don't know about sense but touchwiz is a pig and despite the powerful hardware in my S3 it still suffered more lag compared to less powerful phones.
    The Nexus 4 will beat the S III in mostly everything except for Quadrant, which is a joke of a benchmark. Geekbench, GLBenchmark, 3DMark, AnTuTu, etc., the Nexus 4 will get higher scores in all those. The S4 on the other hand blows it out of the water! Until the HTC One and Galaxy S4 came along, the Nexus 4 was pretty much top of the phone pile on Geekbench. Still a great phone for the money, there isn't more power per Euro out there (brand-new).

    Here's a shot of my Geekbench rank from months ago:

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    ooter wrote: »
    got a dispatch confirmation email today,looks like i wont have to wait as long as i thought..:D
    Ya jammy bastard!


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 35,278 Mod ✭✭✭✭AlmightyCushion


    DECEiFER wrote: »
    The Nexus 4 will beat the S III in mostly everything except for Quadrant, which is a joke of a benchmark. Geekbench, GLBenchmark, 3DMark, AnTuTu, etc., the Nexus 4 will get higher scores in all those. The S4 on the other hand blows it out of the water! Until the HTC One and Galaxy S4 came along, the Nexus 4 was pretty much top of the phone pile on Geekbench. Still a great phone for the money, there isn't more power per Euro out there (brand-new).

    I know, the Nexus 4 is a beast still. The first part of my edit was comparing the Nexus to the S4. When I said my S3 is laggy compared to lower spec phones I wasn't talking about the Nexus 4 though. I was talking about about the Jiayu G3S (low cost Chinese phone). It has a MediaTek quad core Cortex A7 processor which the Exynos in the S3 would run rings around it in benchmarks. The G3S comes with a rom that is very close to stock and I haven't noticed a single time that it has lagged (I was actually expecting it to be laggy at times). I wish I could say the same about the S3. I have used a Nexus and it is buttery smooth and I have never noticed any lag.

    Even with the more powerful hardware of the S4, I imagine that TouchWiz could actually result in it being worse for real world usage than the Nexus for things like lag. Long story short, the increased performance of the S4 and One may be negated by the roms they are running and may actually perform worse than the nexus 4.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,243 ✭✭✭DECEiFER


    I know, the Nexus 4 is a beast still. The first part of my edit was comparing the Nexus to the S4. When I said my S3 is laggy compared to lower spec phones I wasn't talking about the Nexus 4 though. I was talking about about the Jiayu G3S (low cost Chinese phone). It has a MediaTek quad core Cortex A7 processor which the Exynos in the S3 would run rings around it in benchmarks. The G3S comes with a rom that is very close to stock and I haven't noticed a single time that it has lagged (I was actually expecting it to be laggy at times). I wish I could say the same about the S3. I have used a Nexus and it is buttery smooth and I have never noticed any lag.

    Even with the more powerful hardware of the S4, I imagine that TouchWiz could actually result in it being worse for real world usage than the Nexus for things like lag. Long story short, the increased performance of the S4 and One may be negated by the roms they are running and may actually perform worse than the nexus 4.
    A great combination would be a custom ROM running the S4 camera app on stock AOSP. Kind of the best of both. The S4 GE sort of defeats the purpose of what the S4 is about, it's there to make another statement. That more phones can run the latest version of Google's pure Android and maybe those pie-charts showing the divide of Android versions installed on devices will start to shift more into Android 4.3.x and 5.0.x's favor.

    You can't object to having the two S4 devices to choose from. Hopefully Samsung will get their act together and sometime in the near future, tame the pig, as you put it. :)


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 35,278 Mod ✭✭✭✭AlmightyCushion


    DECEiFER wrote: »
    A great combination would be a custom ROM running the S4 camera app on stock AOSP. Kind of the best of both. The S4 GE sort of defeats the purpose of what the S4 is about, it's there to make another statement. That more phones can run the latest version of Google's pure Android and maybe those pie-charts showing the divide of Android versions installed on devices will start to shift more into Android 4.3.x and 5.0.x's favor.

    You can't object to having the two S4 devices to choose from. Hopefully Samsung will get their act together and sometime in the near future, tame the pig, as you put it. :)

    The problem with the GE phones is that Google still rely on Samsung for the kernel. This could really delay updates. It isn't as well optimised either so battery life is worse than an S4 using TouchWiz.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 187 ✭✭Rob!


    Ok folks, so after almost 3 weeks I've finally been emailed by flubit. Phone still not dispatched! Just says "Your order has now been confirmed with the supplier, and your estimated delivery date has been updated to the most accurate information available." Any idea how long it takes for dispatch after this email has been sent out?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,834 ✭✭✭robo


    @Rob! my order took almost 3 weeks (would have been 3 weeks today) but got it Wednesday.
    But I called them last Friday & was told that they would look into my order (the main guy dealing with it was out til Monday) but I got a dispatch notification on Sunday afternoon. So no harm calling Fireworks as they are sound and will let you know that all is good & maybe push it up the line.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,391 ✭✭✭jozi


    Emailed them today after I was told it would be mailed today but he says it will be sent out on Monday.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,953 ✭✭✭Raoul


    Keep pestering them, if they say it will be sent out monday and it isn't then call them and ask why.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,391 ✭✭✭jozi


    Just got an email from Flubit with a updated delivery time, should have it before wed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 656 ✭✭✭Bulmers


    decided to buy one of these phones using flubit, placed order fri evening but still this morning it says processing payment / order being prepared for dispatch, is this normal or should it happen quicker, i thought the payment would have bene done quickly?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,391 ✭✭✭jozi


    Bulmers wrote: »
    decided to buy one of these phones using flubit, placed order fri evening but still this morning it says processing payment / order being prepared for dispatch, is this normal or should it happen quicker, i thought the payment would have bene done quickly?

    It takes time anyway doing it through Flubit, I ordered about 2 weeks ago and just got a dispatch email this morning.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,834 ✭✭✭robo


    Bulmers wrote: »
    decided to buy one of these phones using flubit, placed order fri evening but still this morning it says processing payment / order being prepared for dispatch, is this normal or should it happen quicker, i thought the payment would have bene done quickly?
    Thats just a message, but when I checked my pay pal account & credit card, it had gone out. So don't worry, the order is in the process. You won't get any other update until the phone is despatched! But sooo worth the wait! It will take about 2 weeks though for despatch!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,362 ✭✭✭ionapaul


    I ordered last Saturday week, got my dispatch email this morning. 16gb version, I raised a support query last Thursday night to ask about estimated dispatch, wonder if that influenced things. How long does it typically take for items to get from Fireworks -> Parcel Motel in Dublin?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,243 ✭✭✭DECEiFER


    ionapaul wrote: »
    I ordered last Saturday week, got my dispatch email this morning. 16gb version, I raised a support query last Thursday night to ask about estimated dispatch, wonder if that influenced things. How long does it typically take for items to get from Fireworks -> Parcel Motel in Dublin?
    Just so you know, the package doesn't pass through Fireworks. They order it from Google using their account (in Flubit CEO's Bertie Stephens' name) and payment method but your name/address that you supply is the shipping address, which it goes directly to from Google. I presume they have an arrangement with Google so that they can have a different billing and shipping address, as us normal consumers aren't supposed to according to them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 330 ✭✭*Hank Scorpio*


    Looking to perhaps buy this. Just a few questions:

    - I'm currently with O2 and my sim card is the old standard size. Will O2 provide me with a free micro-sim card I need? I'm currently just top-up every few weeks. Not part of a pay-as-you-go plan.

    - What is support like ( and will be like going forward) for this phone? If it goes arse up am I screwed? Do Google themselves handle warranty/repairs or LG?

    Thanks to all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,243 ✭✭✭DECEiFER


    Looking to perhaps buy this. Just a few questions:

    - I'm currently with O2 and my sim card is the old standard size. Will O2 provide me with a free micro-sim card I need? I'm currently just top-up every few weeks. Not part of a pay-as-you-go plan.

    - What is support like ( and will be like going forward) for this phone? If it goes arse up am I screwed? Do Google themselves handle warranty/repairs or LG?

    Thanks to all.
    O2 should be able to give you a free and blank micro SIM to which you can port your existing number. If you wanted a brand-new number on it, they'd probably charge you (like €10 or something).

    Support is handled by Google and it's not good if you're in Ireland since they don't sell them here. This is why Flubit are the ones to go with as they'll deal with Google on your behalf and sort out any returns. I've already posted several times the many reasons why using Flubit is not only cheaper but also safer than trying to purchase from Google directly when in a country where devices aren't sold on Play and the supporting evidence is in this thread, albeit scattered throughout.

    You should read my sticky on purchasing via Flubit, as it contains detailed information on the process and my own experiences when my device became defective within one hour of using it. Long story short, I had another in my hands in 6 days.

    Sticky:
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056940002


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,243 ✭✭✭DECEiFER


    Just one more thing. Support in terms of software updates to the newest Android releases will be ongoing for a few years or more. The Nexus S, released in late 2010, went all the way from 2.3 up to 4.1.2 and it's only when 4.2 was released that the Galaxy Nexus was the oldest device to get an official update. It doesn't matter where you are, you'll automatically get the OTA update notification within a few days of it being released and pushed and without waiting for carriers/manufacturers to add their custom skins and apps, which takes months. I think our quad-core Nexus 4 devices will last longer than the Nexus S, which got nearly 2 years worth of updates. The same couldn't have been said for the original Galaxy S, which came out earlier in 2010 and was pretty similar to the Nexus S (same processor, clock speed, and graphics). Updates for the Galaxy S started at 2.1 and stopped at 2.3.6, between the latter's release in September 2011 and when Samsung got around to finishing their take on it in earlyish 2012.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,391 ✭✭✭jozi


    I got one of the carphone warehouse staff to cut my sim down to micro sim, didn't cost a thing


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14 encho


    jozi wrote: »
    I got one of the carphone warehouse staff to cut my sim down to micro sim, didn't cost a thing
    Same here. They just trimmed it and it worked. Following this thread for a while and decided to jump the ship and ordered one last Friday. I'm bit worried though cause I go on vacation 12th August.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,372 ✭✭✭ooter


    ooter wrote: »
    ordered one today,got no confirmation email from flubit but i did get one from paypal.:)
    i know it'll probably be a couple of weeks but i'm looking forward to getting me hands on it.
    it's probably been asked before but does the phone come with a charger/usb cable?

    Have it in my hand now,got the text from parcel motel about a half hour ago and went straight down to get it.5 days,looks like I got very lucky..:)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,243 ✭✭✭DECEiFER


    ooter wrote: »
    Have it in my hand now,got the text from parcel motel about a half hour ago and went straight down to get it.5 days,looks like I got very lucky..:)
    There are Boardies cursing you right now! Well done, you did get lucky. Let us know how it works out for you. Are you still on 4.2.2?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,372 ✭✭✭ooter


    jozi wrote: »
    I got one of the carphone warehouse staff to cut my sim down to micro sim, didn't cost a thing

    Didn't know you could do that,I have a normal sized sim in my phone at the moment,could I bring it in to CPW to get it cut down to micro sim size?
    I'd prefer not to have to go near 3 to get a micro sim,from previous experience it means losing at least a day's coverage.
    DECEiFER wrote: »
    There are Boardies cursing you right now! Well done, you did get lucky. Let us know how it works out for you. Are you still on 4.2.2?
    Not sure,just had a quick play with it last night.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,243 ✭✭✭DECEiFER


    I went to a Three store to get a blank micro SIM and you lose maybe an hour or two, max. That's if you port it with a few hours to spare before close of business, otherwise it'll probably be the next business day. Actually, I'm not sure with Three but I remember porting in the evening between O2 and Meteor, and vice versa, in the past and having to wait until the morning.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,391 ✭✭✭jozi


    ooter wrote: »
    Didn't know you could do that,I have a normal sized sim in my phone at the moment,could I bring it in to CPW to get it cut down to micro sim size?
    I'd prefer not to have to go near 3 to get a micro sim,from previous experience it means losing at least a day's coverage.

    Not sure,just had a quick play with it last night.

    I just went in and asked can they cut it down. Less hassle and no down time, phone works fine to. I'm nearly sure you can download a template or find instructions online how to cut it down as well.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,716 ✭✭✭Nolimits


    Ordered it last Tuesday through Flubit. Had heard nothing since Tuesday, and on the Flubit site my payment was still showing as processing. I emailed them Sunday evening (shortly after reading about people in here waiting 3 weeks before they shipped) and got a response yesterday morning saying it should be dispatched today.

    Last night got an email to say my payment had been processed, I did wonder if maybe I was getting that email to keep me quiet for a couple of days but it shipped today. If all goes well I should pick it up from my local locker tomorrow evening or Thursday.

    Just went on to adverts, some people are really taking the piss with the prices, asking more than I paid when it's used. Might just keep an eye on it though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,243 ✭✭✭DECEiFER


    Ha, you're right. I just had a look on Adverts. €350 for an 8GB model and rejected a €300 offer. It's two months old, unused, and he said he bought it from Google Play so it's not as if he got ripped off. Not a hope!

    Here's the ad:
    http://www.adverts.ie/mobile-phones/nexus-4/2718543

    I'll make a comment on it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,716 ✭✭✭Nolimits


    DECEiFER wrote: »
    Ha, you're right. I just had a look on Adverts. €350 for an 8GB model and rejected a €300 offer. It's two months old, unused, and he said he bought it from Google Play so it's not as if he got ripped off. Not a hope!

    Here's the ad:
    http://www.adverts.ie/mobile-phones/nexus-4/2718543

    I'll make a comment on it.

    I paid €328 for 16gb


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,243 ✭✭✭DECEiFER


    Nolimits wrote: »
    I paid €328 for 16gb
    The ad appears to be 3 months or so old. The value of the Euro strengthened in the last month so the 16GB price would have been ~€340 including shipping with Flubit back when I got mine in April, just over 3 months ago.

    But €350 for an 8GB model? Never was the Euro so weak to go charging that much. I'd say something if he bought it from Amazon or the like and is selling it at cost but he clearly states that he bought it from Google Play, so that can't be it.


    EDIT:

    Here's another ad that I couldn't resist saying something in:
    http://www.adverts.ie/mobile-phones/used-nexus-4-8gb/3478145

    Might as well leave it at those two. It'd be too tiresome commenting on all the ads charging a noticeable amount more than cost.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14 encho


    I got email from flubit that my order has been confirmed with a supplier, and have delivery date 1-3 August. But status still says processing(?). Ordered last Thursday evening.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,243 ✭✭✭DECEiFER


    encho wrote: »
    I got email from flubit that my order has been confirmed with a supplier, and have delivery date 1-3 August. But status still says processing(?). Ordered last Thursday evening.
    Don't worry about it. It could take a week or two, or even three, for anything to change on your progress. If you're concerned, give Fireworks Merchant (Flubit's supplier, a subsidiary of them) a call. The number's on their website.


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