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The Anglo Irish Tapes

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 56,689 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    listermint wrote: »
    Are these lads even listening to their electorate ?!?!?!

    Brendan Howlin now in RTE on the news saying again that they are rushing through procedures to conclude and get started this parliamentary enquiry...

    NO ONE wants this, people want prosecutions.

    Wasting dail time with people that have no skills or no power to question anybody in relation to this matter is ridiculous

    It gets even worse -

    http://www.thejournal.ie/anglo-tapes-banking-inquiry-965240-Jun2013/

    Jobs for the boys. More ways of making money and doubly screwing us.
    This should not be allowed happen.
    CAB and the Fraud Squad should be involved and even have them overseen by the Germans.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 876 ✭✭✭RiverOfLove


    The government of the day (FF) back in 08 dressed up the bank guarantee as a measure for an overnight emergency and this to be quiet honest is nothing more but pure cock and fcuking bull. FF or some within cabinet knew god damn well of the troubles in the banks long before the bank guarantee. Come on! Golfing and dining together.

    FF - where the fcuk are they? Cowen? Bertie? Why aren't they being hauled up here?

    Banking Regulator Neary - where is he? Why hasn't there been any action taken against him? For incompetence or something. Negliance, maybe?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,479 ✭✭✭Hootanany


    Can CAB not be enacted as their salaries were derived from fraud.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,473 ✭✭✭Wacker The Attacker


    Nothing will happen as a result.

    Not only will none of these bankers go to prison, i'll be quite surprised if any of them are even taken to court.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35 Formalhaut


    Channel 4 News will be featuring this in the next half hour.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,473 ✭✭✭Wacker The Attacker


    The government of the day (FF) back in 08 dressed up the bank guarantee as a measure for an overnight emergency and this to be quiet honest is nothing more but pure cock and fcuking bull. FF or some within cabinet knew god damn well of the troubles in the banks long before the bank guarantee. Come on! Golfing and dining together.

    FF - where the fcuk are they? Cowen? Bertie? Why aren't they being hauled up here?

    Banking Regulator Neary - where is he? Why hasn't there been any action taken against him? For incompetence or something. Negliance, maybe?


    That's why any investigation is doomed to failure. Not only will it go to the top of the banking sector, it will go to the top of the political and legal systems and beyond.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 876 ✭✭✭RiverOfLove


    Nothing will happen as a result.

    Not only will none of these bankers go to prison, i'll be quite surprised if any of them are even taken to court.

    Enda Kenny loves the taste of sh1t and he's licking the dirty arses of many.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,288 ✭✭✭TheUsual


    Formalhaut wrote: »
    Channel 4 News will be featuring this in the next half hour.


    Was on Russia Today news at 5pm earlier, they struggled pronouncing the word "arse".
    http://rt.com/news/irish-banker-bailout-arse-tapes-184/

    Also Max Keisser mentioned it a few times on his show this evening on RT.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,871 ✭✭✭rolliepoley


    They fcuked us up the arse and laughed all the way the the bank.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,496 ✭✭✭Boombastic


    TheUsual wrote: »
    Was on Russia Today news at 5pm earlier, they struggled pronouncing the word "arse".
    http://rt.com/news/irish-banker-bailout-arse-tapes-184/

    Also Max Keisser mentioned it a few times on his show this evening on RT.

    :D:D


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  • Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 23,257 Mod ✭✭✭✭GLaDOS


    Government remind me of the People front of Judea, too busy bickering and point scoring and holding stupid meetings, never get anything actually done.

    Cake, and grief counseling, will be available at the conclusion of the test



  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 31,119 ✭✭✭✭snubbleste


    Government remind me of the People front of Judea, too busy bickering and point scoring and holding stupid meetings, never get anything actually done.
    Reflects the electorate so.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,933 ✭✭✭smurgen


    I actually cannot believe what is happening here,that drumm will never ever be brought to book,it's disgusting I hope he dies roaring.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,522 ✭✭✭emo72


    where are Bowe and Fitzgerald now? are they still in ireland?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,184 ✭✭✭3ndahalfof6


    Formalhaut wrote: »
    Channel 4 News will be featuring this in the next half hour.

    After watching that if we were not a laughing stock, we are now, I like the way they slipped in the possibility their actions were a reaction to other goings on far far away,

    long live the fools that allow themselves to be fooled, nothing will be done, nothing will be fixed, our grandkids will be still affected by this 40 years down the road,

    North Korea looks like a good spot to live now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,612 ✭✭✭twinytwo


    Specialun wrote: »
    We always knew we lived in a banana republic but this further bangs it home

    These people just laughed at everybody like it was a fiver they were putting on a horse

    Enda then saying his hoping to bring forward an enquiry...ah hello nothing new here enda..we had the fooking tapes all along and now you decide to bring forward an enquiry..lol

    Banana republic we should rename ourselves


    An enquiry, thats a laugh. When has there ever been an enquiry in this country that has ever led to jail time??... im going to say never.

    All that will happen is it will get dragged out for 10 years, loads of smoke and mirrors, the lawyers will get rich and **** all will happen.

    It sad when you think about it, clear evidence that at the very least they defauded the state of billions of euro, but they cant be touched without an enquiry... Would i get an enquiry if i lied to the taxman? ...me hoop id be slapped in jail.

    I still dont understand why these morons are not dragged from their beds?


  • Posts: 24,286 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    The government of the day (FF) back in 08 dressed up the bank guarantee as a measure for an overnight emergency and this to be quiet honest is nothing more but pure cock and fcuking bull. FF or some within cabinet knew god damn well of the troubles in the banks long before the bank guarantee. Come on! Golfing and dining together.

    FF - where the fcuk are they? Cowen? Bertie? Why aren't they being hauled up here?


    Banking Regulator Neary - where is he? Why hasn't there been any action taken against him? For incompetence or something. Negliance, maybe?

    I would bet some of their cronies in the Dáil/Seanad actually had loans with these crooked banks let alone let them off scott free. We dont know the half of it.

    Why else would they protect the banks so much in fairness?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,283 ✭✭✭✭Scofflaw


    I would bet some of their cronies in the Dáil/Seanad actually had loans with these crooked banks let alone let them off scott free. We dont know the half of it.

    Why else would they protect the banks so much in fairness?

    They protect banks per se for the same reason every other country does - yes, even Iceland - because the banks are economic utilities. You have to have money and banking services in just the same way you have to have electricity.

    And what the tapes show is that Anglo put the frighteners on them - promised the collapse of the whole Irish banking system if they weren't given what they needed.

    The politicians went with protecting the existing banking companies because they thought they could do it, and politicians always go for the least disruptive option if they think they can do it. The Icelanders would have done it too if they thought they could get away with it - the only difference is they knew they couldn't.

    It's not a mystery, and it's going to happen every single time there's a bank crash, no matter how squeaky clean the politicians are.

    cordially,
    Scofflaw


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 876 ✭✭✭RiverOfLove


    God.

    I would love to see so many people hung by their balls out to dry for the crap that they threw upon our back. Like what has been mentioned though, fcuk all is ever going to come of this. There are just people right now in the top of our country in the establishment, clinging on milking whatever they can, while they can.
    Our government of today and in the past have been up to their necks in corruption. Nothing is ever going to happen. They'll be too busy lying and protecting themselves to even care.

    If we never want to see this sh1t happen again we need huge changes. That will only start from our glorious politicians but movement won't happen from them or they'll see their jobs lost and their pockets becoming very holy.

    -We need a new system of politics - ie get rid of pothole voting for national issues.
    -We need new people in politics. I'm sure some unemployed would love to come forward.
    -We need a new constitution. Michael D talked about this before becoming elected.

    We need a revolution.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,305 ✭✭✭April O Neill


    It's almost Comic-Book Villain levels of evil.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 56,689 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    This is probably a great day for Sean Quinn.
    He stated that Anglo told him lies and tricked him
    Hard to disprove his claims now.
    Another one probably escapes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,804 ✭✭✭Wurzelbert




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,652 ✭✭✭I am pie


    Cant just decide you need new people in politics, what you need a paradigm shift in voting patterns which looks unlikely to me.

    If you held an election today, with this still raw. What would the outcome be?

    I think incredibly enough FF would come out of it all pretty well, SF would make gains too but not enough to govern. I reckon the current crop of independents like Wallace, Daly, Boyd Barrett and co have been so ineffective that they would push seats back towards FF as the protest vote dwindles. SF might pick up a few of those.

    What would really change? Nothing much.ne


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,652 ✭✭✭I am pie


    Wurzelbert wrote: »

    In German. Right....I don't think I'll try and unpick the madness which google translate usually throws up for translations and I reckon you won't find to many German speakers on AH. A handful maybe.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 876 ✭✭✭RiverOfLove




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,597 ✭✭✭dan1895


    I am pie wrote: »
    In German. Right....I don't think I'll try and unpick the madness which google translate usually throws up for translations and I reckon you won't find to many German speakers on AH. A handful maybe.

    Where's Lars when you need him?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,184 ✭✭✭3ndahalfof6


    Scofflaw wrote: »
    They protect banks per se for the same reason every other country does - yes, even Iceland - because the banks are economic utilities. You have to have money and banking services in just the same way you have to have electricity.

    And what the tapes show is that Anglo put the frighteners on them - promised the collapse of the whole Irish banking system if they weren't given what they needed.

    The politicians went with protecting the existing banking companies because they thought they could do it, and politicians always go for the least disruptive option if they think they can do it. The Icelanders would have done it too if they thought they could get away with it - the only difference is they knew they couldn't.

    It's not a mystery, and it's going to happen every single time there's a bank crash, no matter how squeaky clean the politicians are.

    cordially,
    Scofflaw

    School teachers running the army type of sceniro, anyway the damage is done time for the clean up, as hard as that will be for so many people.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,221 ✭✭✭NuckingFacker


    This is probably a great day for Sean Quinn.
    He stated that Anglo told him lies and tricked him
    Hard to disprove his claims now.
    Another one probably escapes.
    Do you honestly believe they didn't? If you owe me 100 million, and I call you in and tell you what you are going to do, or else, would you do it or risk instant ruin? "Sean old fruit, this is the way it's going to be....." You are dealing with very cynical, ruthless people here. And they will not be touched, not a hope, not an inkling, not a chance in hell.

    Anyone see "Fingers" having a good old chuckle with Smurfit on the cover of the Phoenix? These guys will never know a days poverty or real worry in their lives. They have suckers to do that crap for them.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,225 ✭✭✭Yitzhak Rabin


    Do you honestly believe they didn't? If you owe me 100 million, and I call you in and tell you what you are going to do, or else, would you do it or risk instant ruin? "Sean old fruit, this is the way it's going to be....." You are dealing with very cynical, ruthless people here. And they will not be touched, not a hope, not an inkling, not a chance in hell.

    You don't think that Sean Quinn thought taking out a massive loan to buy shares in Anglo was a good way to make a quick buck?

    The lads in Anglo were total cowboys, but that doesn't change the fact that Sean Quinn gambled his company's money and lost. He also acted in the exact same way as the rest of them, transferring his assets to family members and selling off assets in shady deals in Russia and the Ukraine.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,804 ✭✭✭Wurzelbert


    I am pie wrote: »
    In German. Right....I don't think I'll try and unpick the madness which google translate usually throws up for translations and I reckon you won't find to many German speakers on AH. A handful maybe.

    don’t worry, no real news in there anyway, just a german perspective of the whole thing…


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