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B&I Lions v Wallabies, Match Thread, Sat June 22, 1105am

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    #122
    Swiwi.
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    Dan Lydiate
    Rightwing wrote: »
    I don't think it ever was, along with Sexton & POC he was probably first on the teamsheet.

    Perusing the forum you will see Kearney, Hogg, Maitland & Zebo all listed at various stages as starting at 15, albeit with some posters (but definitely not all) moving HP to wing.

    However, I would agree with you that HPs place in the starting 15, and at fullback, was never in any doubt. I can't think of a more consistent player in world rugby over these last 12 months or so. He just doesn't make poor decisions, and has demonstrated his attacking prowess with a couple of well-taken tries during this tour.


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    #123
    Buer
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    captbarnacles wrote: »
    Wonder how much Warburton had to do with Lydiates selection. He has said how much he loves having his wingman on the pitch. Maybe Lydiates injury affected his form this year? Anyhow it is likely Gatland sounded out his Captain especially if it was as tight a call as it looked. It's also possbile Gatland likes how the combination of the two plays at the breakdown (experience together plus contrasting styles) - greater than the sum of their parts?

    Whilst I'm not sure how much relevance it would have, I'd be almost certain that Gatland would sound out Warburton ahead of selection for his thoughts. It has happened on previous tours and I'm sure it continues. Ollie Smith toured in 2005 on the say so of BOD. I don't think it's any coincidence that Quinlan was a shock call up in 2009 when POC was captain either.

    I would say Warburton had a chat with coaching staff and gave his opinions before they closed the doors and sat down to pick the team.


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    #124
    ionadnapokot
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    Wallabies by more than 7
    Hard to call tomorrows game with so many unknowns in the Wallaby team. And of course the Lions. But the Lions will play in positions mostly where the Aussies expect them to.
    But Australia?? Barnes is a 10 named @ 15, O’Connor is 14/15 named @ 10 and Folau is 14 named @15. (although he did play wing in league). Expect some interchanging of positions amongst those three. And Beale to come off the bench @10, 14 or 15?
    Id imagine Gatland et all are also scratching their heads.
    Lions to win it. 21 v 25. World class at outhalf. Australia don’t have anybody near Sextons level (Quade anybody!?). And a kicking machine in Halfpenny.
    Cant wait now! B'OD MOM!


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    #125
    .ak
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    Wallabies by more than 7
    Le vieux renard wrote: »
    Perusing the forum you will see Kearney, Hogg, Maitland & Zebo all listed at various stages as starting at 15, albeit with some posters (but definitely not all) moving HP to wing.

    However, I would agree with you that HPs place in the starting 15, and at fullback, was never in any doubt. I can't think of a more consistent player in world rugby over these last 12 months or so. He just doesn't make poor decisions, and has demonstrated his attacking prowess with a couple of well-taken tries during this tour.

    Ah that's a bit disingenuous. From what I saw the only posters advocating HP not to start at 15 was when North and Bowe looked like they were unfit, so it'd be less risky to have HP shore up the wing rather than having him at FB and putting Zebo or Maitland on the wing.

    That was my understanding of it anyway. Nobody wanted HP not to start.


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    #126
    Swiwi.
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    Dan Lydiate
    .ak wrote: »
    Ah that's a bit disingenuous. From what I saw the only posters advocating HP not to start at 15 was when North and Bowe looked like they were unfit, so it'd be less risky to have HP shore up the wing rather than having him at FB and putting Zebo or Maitland on the wing.

    That was my understanding of it anyway. Nobody wanted HP not to start.

    Do I trawl the forum to prove my case? No - life is short and time is precious, so I'll take your word for it .ak!


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    #127
    .ak
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    Wallabies by more than 7
    Le vieux renard wrote: »
    Do I trawl the forum to prove my case? No - life is short and time is precious, so I'll take your word for it .ak!

    You also promised to buy me a beer.


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    #128
    Swiwi.
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    Dan Lydiate
    .ak wrote: »
    You also promised to buy me a beer.

    I only have 61 posts to my name (62 including this one), so it shouldn't take too long to see if you're right! But if that Woolshed thing goes ahead, then yes I'll buy you a beer! One of those nice craft ones, a bit of class.


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    #129
    .ak
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    Wallabies by more than 7
    I'm going to change my avatar to the first Lions player who scores a try...

    ... unless they don't score any tries, then I suppose I'll choose a pic of Halfpenny's boot.


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    #130
    The Aussie
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    Wallabies by more than 7
    .ak wrote: »
    I'm going to change my avatar to the first Lions player who scores a try...

    ... unless they don't score any tries, then I suppose I'll choose a pic of Halfpenny's boot.

    What if Justin Beiber (JOC) scores the only try of the game.....







    I know he ain't a Lion BTW.


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    #131
    Tox56
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    Le vieux renard wrote: »
    Perusing the forum you will see Kearney, Hogg, Maitland & Zebo all listed at various stages as starting at 15, albeit with some posters (but definitely not all) moving HP to wing.

    However, I would agree with you that HPs place in the starting 15, and at fullback, was never in any doubt. I can't think of a more consistent player in world rugby over these last 12 months or so. He just doesn't make poor decisions, and has demonstrated his attacking prowess with a couple of well-taken tries during this tour.

    In fairness a lot of that would have been before his outrageous kicking form on this tour (I always had him at 15 for what it's worth). He's always been a good kicker but not as metronomic as he has been lately. I don't think he even has kicking duties depending on the 10 at Caridff? I'm a bit sketchy on that one but I remember a Welshie claiming that at some point. Only time I saw him live he missed 2 kicks out of 4 or 5 anyway, so up until recently his kicking wouldn't have been cause to have him as an automatic choice


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    #132
    Buer
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    .ak wrote: »
    I'm going to change my avatar to the first Lions player who scores a try...

    ... unless they don't score any tries, then I suppose I'll choose a pic of Halfpenny's boot.

    Go Dan Lydiate!


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    #133
    Beanmonkey
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    ionadnapokot wrote: »
    But Australia?? Barnes is a 10 named @ 15, O’Connor is 14/15 named @ 10 and Folau is 14 named @15. (although he did play wing in league). Expect some interchanging of positions amongst those three. And Beale to come off the bench @10, 14 or 15?

    May be a scrap in the changing room over the 15 shirt ;)


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    #134
    The Aussie
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    Wallabies by more than 7
    Beanmonkey wrote: »
    May be a scrap in the changing room over the 15 shirt ;)

    Well there is no Cooper(s) in the room so Beale should be safe.

    He so far stands at fighting

    - Quade Cooper

    - Copper Vuna


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    #135
    splashthecash
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    Wallabies by more than 7
    What channel will this be on guys?


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    #136
    LeeroyJones
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    splashthecash wrote: »
    What channel will this be on guys?

    Sky Sports 1


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    #137
    PopTarts
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    Is it on Telly at all?


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    #138
    petebricquette
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    Wallabies by more than 7
    PopTarts wrote: »
    Is it on Telly at all?

    Not normal tv. Sky Sports only so if you don't have it you're best off looking for a decent stream or going to a pub. I'm based in Galway and I know a few places are opening up early for it.


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    #139
    runman
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    Lions by less than 7
    With all the talk of falou and his ability I bet he has a meltdown tomorrow and George north messes him up!!

    I'm excited.


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    #140
    Ugo Monye spacecraft experience
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    I hope it's a spectacle, whatever the outcome


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    #141
    hype101
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    Somebody may have mentioned this earlier but what happens if Sam Warburton gets injured after 10 mins, or just isn't up to it.. Will Jamie Heaslip be playing openside?, with Tom Croft at 8, against the best groundhog team in the world.. It's madness, the balance is all off!.. You can't accommodate Lydiate and Croft in the same 22 .. Even if it wasn't going to be O'Brien, surely Faleteau or Tipuric would have been the way to go.. If they were determined to have Lydiate on the bench would they not maybe have been better of having no second row sub and moving Croft to the row if forced?.. Atleast that would give more backrow options


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    #142
    duckysauce
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    Dan Lydiate
    Ugo Monye spacecraft experience wrote: »
    I hope it's a spectacle, whatever the outcome

    jesus that's a name and a half :D


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    #143
    Ugo Monye spacecraft experience
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    duckysauce wrote: »
    jesus that's a name and a half :D

    just incredible ;)


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    #144
    leftleg
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    Ugo Monye spacecraft experience wrote: »
    just incredible ;)

    Yeah wed understand if it was john Hayes spacecraft experience but ugo monye doesn't have the same wow effect


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    #145
    Fireball07
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    Wallabies by more than 7
    leftleg wrote: »
    Yeah wed understand if it was john Hayes spacecraft experience but ugo monye doesn't have the same wow effect

    I like it....I approve :cool:


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    #146
    Ugo Monye spacecraft experience
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    It's a very hard game to call really. On one hand Australia look a lot stronger than they did this time last year, but they aren't in the same league physically as the Boks four years ago while this touring party seems to be a better one that ran that side close

    Lions to edge this test


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    #147
    duckysauce
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    Dan Lydiate
    Ugo Monye spacecraft experience wrote: »
    It's a very hard game to call really. On one hand Australia look a lot stronger than they did this time last year, but they aren't in the same league physically as the Boks four years ago while this touring party seems to be a better one that ran that side close

    Lions to edge this test

    ah come on --re reg and no score ??

    need the margin


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    #148
    Ugo Monye spacecraft experience
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    duckysauce wrote: »
    ah come on --re reg and no score ??

    need the margin

    If I was pushed to predict a score it would be 6 points via the metronomic boot of one Leigh Halfpenny


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    #149
    Paully D
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    Are Australia not a big price at almost 2/1, or 11/10 with a 3 point head start? Thanks.


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    #150
    bilston
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    Wallabies by more than 7
    So do people think it's a good thing or a bad thing that Australia haven't played since November?

    On the one hand they haven't been able to test their combinations in a competitive match situation so that's a positive for us.

    On the other hand they could well have ripped their playbook up in November and come up with something entirely new this year and we won't have a clue what to expect tomorrow.

    Then again there would be risk in that for Australia too, they could have a whole new set of moves but they won't have tried them in a competitive environment so it could go pear shaped for them.

    Hard one to call really!


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    #151
    CatFromHue
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    I'm thinking a good thing.

    It may have been 3 weeks since most of them played but that was SuperXV round 16 so I'm guessing most of the Aussie players have played at least 10-12 games already this season. So physically they will be in good shape and tuned in but could do with a week off from high intensity games. Compare that with the Irish players who usually only start to come back a game or two before the first HEC game and so by the first November Test match will only have played maybe 4 or 5 games that season.

    Also they're going to be playing 3 tests on 3 consecutive weekends which will be tough enough, trying to add in another game during the break could end up counter productive by the time they reach the third test.


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