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WWDC 2013 announced for June 10-14

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  • #242
    Dudda
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,541 ✭✭✭Dudda


    Instead of arguing over having NFC or a wifi Direct/Air Drop system consumers should be demanding both as your not always in a wifi area.

    What's wrong with having both?


  • #243
    Graham
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 17,643 Mod ✭✭✭✭Graham


    Although I wouldn't object to a device having NFC, I just can't see much of a purpose to it YET.

    Air Drop is being cultivated in typical Apple fashion. It's being extended and enhanced little by little to an ever increasing audience.

    The vast majority of current NFC enabled phones will be landfill without the original owners ever realising that feature was present.


  • #244
    Sad Professor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,701 ✭✭✭✭Sad Professor


    It'll be interesting to see how secure the new re-activation feature is. If it's as good as it sounds, then thieves will have far harder time shifting stolen iPhones. Their only option will be to sell them for spare parts.


  • #245
    DubDJ
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,360 ✭✭✭DubDJ


    Sad Professor wrote: »
    It'll be interesting to see how secure the new re-activation feature is. If it's as good as it sounds, then thieves will have far harder time shifting stolen iPhones. Their only option will be to sell them for spare parts.

    Or hopefully not steal them at all...


  • #246
    Savage Tyrant
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,165 ✭✭✭Savage Tyrant


    Does contacting your network and reporting the phone stolen and having the IMEI number blocked, not render the phone useless already?


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  • #247
    mad muffin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,034 ✭✭✭mad muffin


    Graham wrote: »
    The problem with NFC is you need NFC, with wifi you don't.

    Lets say you are out and about, how are you going to use wifi?


  • #248
    Graham
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 17,643 Mod ✭✭✭✭Graham


    Savage Tyrant wrote: »
    Does contacting your network and reporting the phone stolen and having the IMEI number blocked, not render the phone useless already?

    Pretty much, until it's exported.


  • #249
    Sad Professor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,701 ✭✭✭✭Sad Professor


    DubDJ wrote: »
    Or hopefully not steal them at all...

    No, because Find My iPhone has to be enabled. As we know from this forum, most people don't take the time to enable it or find out how it works until after their phone is stolen.

    Tracking features are a waste of time anyway. They are nothing more than a placebo for users. A thief will always be able to disable them. Firmware-related security features like iCloud re-activation in iOS 7 are a far better way to discourage thieves.
    Savage Tyrant wrote: »
    Does contacting your network and reporting the phone stolen and having the IMEI number blocked, not render the phone useless already?

    Yes, but only on Irish networks.


  • #250
    Graham
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 17,643 Mod ✭✭✭✭Graham


    mad muffin wrote: »
    Lets say you are out and about, how are you going to use wifi?

    Given the proliferation of each, you're more likely to be near wifi than NFC.

    Most (if not all) smartphones have WiFi, the same can't be said about NFC.


  • #251
    Sad Professor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,701 ✭✭✭✭Sad Professor


    Hopefully there's an option to disable automatic updates for specific apps. Some developers simply can't be trusted with this. (Can anyone with the beta confirm?)

    With iCloud Keychain, Apple have once again rendered a popular third party app redundant for most users. But I'm glad. 1Password have been milking their customers of late. The app never worked too well on iOS anyway and the latest version is ghastly looking.


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  • #252
    TBi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,784 ✭✭✭TBi


    mad muffin wrote: »
    Lets say you are out and about, how are you going to use wifi?

    The phone's create their own adhoc wifi network and transfer data that way, you don't need a router.


  • #253
    Graham
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 17,643 Mod ✭✭✭✭Graham


    Sad Professor wrote: »
    Hopefully there's an option to disable automatic updates for specific apps. Some developers simply can't be trusted with this. (Can anyone with the beta confirm?)

    With iCloud Keychain, Apple have once again rendered a popular third party app redundant for most users. But I'm glad. 1Password have been milking their customers of late. The app never worked too well on iOS anyway and the latest version is ghastly looking.

    I can definitely find an option to turn Automatic Updated Off/On, don't see anything to do that at the individual App level though.

    I do feel a bit sorry for 1Password, I've been using it across a few machines/devices and found it really useful.


  • #254
    Gorilla Rising
    Closed Accounts Posts: 381 ✭✭Gorilla Rising


    Piliger wrote: »
    The problem with NFC is that you have to be NEAR ... with wifi you don't.

    NFC is a waste of time and resources until NFC starts to be used somewhere useful.

    Hardly a wast of time..

    http://www.techradar.com/news/phone-and-communications/what-is-nfc-and-why-is-it-in-your-phone-948410


  • #255
    miralize
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,207 ✭✭✭miralize


    Lack of Safari integration made using those password apps a bit of a pain to use - (Dashlane anyway).

    After sleeping on it, I still dont like the icons, the music app takes longer for me to play an album, through the artist page. Some of the bottom tab bar icons have text in apps while others dont. It's very inconsistant, but again its Beta 1.

    Yes you can turn off auto updates, but not for specific apps.


  • #256
    Graham
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 17,643 Mod ✭✭✭✭Graham


    Gorilla Rising wrote: »
    Hardly a wast of time..

    http://www.techradar.com/news/phone-and-communications/what-is-nfc-and-why-is-it-in-your-phone-948410

    The title of that article should be 'What could you potentially do with NFC if it were implemented anywhere'.

    NFC could be really useful, if it ever becomes widespread enough.


  • #257
    DubDJ
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,360 ✭✭✭DubDJ


    Sad Professor wrote: »
    Hopefully there's an option to disable automatic updates for specific apps. Some developers simply can't be trusted with this. (Can anyone with the beta confirm?)

    With iCloud Keychain, Apple have once again rendered a popular third party app redundant for most users. But I'm glad. 1Password have been milking their customers of late. The app never worked too well on iOS anyway and the latest version is ghastly looking.

    I only bought it while it was half price a few days ago. It's a good app, and I still think it will be useful for storing passwords for other things, laptop login info, bank account numbers etc. It just won't be as useful.

    Also I thought the whole point of Airdrop is it creates its own Wifi Network. I actually did see a mention of Hotspot 2.0 on one of the keynote slides too, not sure if that has something to do with Airdrop.


  • #258
    mad muffin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,034 ✭✭✭mad muffin


    TBi wrote: »
    The phone's create their own adhoc wifi network and transfer data that way, you don't need a router.


    Aha!

    NFC be damned so... :D


  • #259
    prettyboy81
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,581 ✭✭✭prettyboy81


    Ah put ios7 on my iPhone today at lunchtime. Running very smoothly & it's a very nice update. I've encountered no problems so far but I haven't tried to use every app on me phone.


  • #260
    Duggys Housemate
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,298 ✭✭✭Duggys Housemate


    I bet Apple will add NFC sometime, maybe this year. There is always a feature of the OS which runs on new machines only.


  • #261
    Gorilla Rising
    Closed Accounts Posts: 381 ✭✭Gorilla Rising


    Graham wrote: »
    The title of that article should be 'What could you potentially do with NFC if it were implemented anywhere'.

    NFC could be really useful, if it ever becomes widespread enough.

    It's used elsewhere. Just not here unfortunately.

    To say it's a waste of time just shows a lack knowledge about it.


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  • #262
    miralize
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,207 ✭✭✭miralize


    Gorilla Rising wrote: »
    It's used elsewhere. Just not here unfortunately.

    To say it's a waste of time just shows a lack knowledge about it.

    But it is, if no one uses it.


  • #263
    Graham
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 17,643 Mod ✭✭✭✭Graham


    Gorilla Rising wrote: »
    It's used elsewhere. Just not here unfortunately.

    To say it's a waste of time just shows a lack knowledge about it.

    I fully understand the uses and benefits of NFC, hence the NFC kit sitting about 14" away from my left elbow.

    Despite the fact I didn't say NFC was a waste of time (quite the opposite in fact), by your own admission it's not used here which does somewhat diminish its utility.


  • #264
    miralize
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,207 ✭✭✭miralize


    Now this, this I like. Icons reined in.

    Redesign_iOS7_Comparison_V2.jpg


  • #265
    GhostInTheRuins
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,010 ✭✭✭GhostInTheRuins


    ^^

    What is that? The one on the left looks miles nicer.


  • #266
    danger mouse
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 559 ✭✭✭danger mouse


    Gorilla Rising wrote: »
    That's actually a .dmg file?? I just downloaded it now.



    Taking me 8 hours to download it? Anymore links?


  • #267
    miralize
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,207 ✭✭✭miralize


    GhostInTheRuins wrote: »
    ^^

    What is that? The one on the left looks miles nicer.

    Its a mockup from a designer. The one on the right is the current ios7 look.


  • #268
    symbolic
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,243 ✭✭✭symbolic


    I think the iOS redesign is very nice. It's been a bit quiet in this forum lately! Looking forward to seeing how it looks on the iPad.

    Great to see how Haswell is effecting battery life on the Airs as Apple are quite honest about battery life as far as I've seen. Good work out of Intel!


  • #269
    DubDJ
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,360 ✭✭✭DubDJ


    Anyone with iOS 7 installed got any opinions? How is it running, are apps crashing? Any major glitches or effect on battery life?


  • #270
    fifth
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,135 ✭✭✭fifth


    Love the redesign. That mockup above - I can see inset style icons and shadows creeping back in. This is not what iOS 7 is about. Reading the developer guidelines this morning they want the UI to be 'unobtrusive' and not compete with the content of what's on screen.

    It's not about the design / how it looks but more how it enables the OS to function better by stripping away unecessary detail.


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  • #271
    miralize
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,207 ✭✭✭miralize


    DubDJ wrote: »
    Anyone with iOS 7 installed got any opinions? How is it running, are apps crashing? Any major glitches or effect on battery life?

    Already posted my virews on it last night. Dont put it on your day phone


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