WWDC 2013 announced for June 10-14

TBi

I was on autopilot and did a restore. Will restore to 6.1.4 and then 'update'.

whitelightrider

I get it to Extract the update and then I get an error - 3194 saying an unknown error occured

DubDJ

120_Minutes wrote: »

ask siri to switch on bluetooth, he says its done, but it's not. ask again, it works. anyone else find this?

Yeah same thing happened to me last night. And then the cheeky bugger start telling me Bluetooth is already on haha

TBi

Restored to 6.1.4 and updated to 7 beta. Cellular Data doesn't seem to be working. My settings seem to be right though. On eMobile.

EDIT: It's just darned slow. Need to figure out why.

Dudda

TBi wrote: »

Restored to 6.1.4 and updated to 7 beta. Cellular Data doesn't seem to be working. My settings seem to be right though. On eMobile.

EDIT: It's just darned slow. Need to figure out why.

Restart your phone. As dumb and as simple as it sounds it actually helped me after updating.

TBi

Dudda wrote: »

Restart your phone. As dumb and as simple as it sounds it actually helped me after updating.

Tried that and it didn't seem to work at the start. Working now though, must have been doing something in the background.

I can't get iMessage to work but seems you need to have registered your UDID and do a proper install for this to work. Will have to start debugging apps for my friend who's a registered developer

GhostInTheRuins

One feature I'd really like is the ability to delete app data. Has anyone using ios7 noticed if you can do that?

Graham

GhostInTheRuins wrote: »

One feature I'd really like is the ability to delete app data. Has anyone using ios7 noticed if you can do that?

Just checked, looks like you still only have the option to delete the App and the Data together.

TBi

Can't seem to play music, although this is only music from iTunes store not my itunes library(I haven't synced my library yet). Anyone else have a problem?

Might go back to 6 until 7 gets more stable.

Zapp Brannigan

A few bugs in the Music app.

Lots of my artists are missing and it seems to be reusing the same artwork for multiple artists. This is all in the artist view, song view is fine and when I click in to an artist the artwork is correct.

120_Minutes

automatic app updates seems to be crashing too. it sits there updating but nothing happens, so you go into the app store to do it manually, hit update a few times and nothing happens, then it crashes out to the lock screen and your app is updated.

Blazer

Brightness bug is there..have to lock the screen and re-open to get back original brightness (as in screen gets too dim).

Another: ip5 gets very hot when charging..and seems to be extremely slow to charge as well unless there's some app wasting the battery..(killed everything though)

TBi

Battery is over half gone, much too early in the day for that. Definitely going back to 6.1.4 which is a shame because iOS does look very nice. I like the future of iOS.

Graham

120_Minutes wrote: »

automatic app updates seems to be crashing too. it sits there updating but nothing happens, so you go into the app store to do it manually, hit update a few times and nothing happens, then it crashes out to the lock screen and your app is updated.

Thanks for reminding me to check, just looked at the App Store Apps and I can see 6 apps have already automatically updated.

shanec1928

TBi wrote: »

Tried that and it didn't seem to work at the start. Working now though, must have been doing something in the background.

I can't get iMessage to work but seems you need to have registered your UDID and do a proper install for this to work. Will have to start debugging apps for my friend who's a registered developer

imessage is working for me and mine is not registered.

Graham

TBi wrote: »

Tried that and it didn't seem to work at the start. Working now though, must have been doing something in the background.

I can't get iMessage to work but seems you need to have registered your UDID and do a proper install for this to work. Will have to start debugging apps for my friend who's a registered developer

The iMessage problems and a lot of the App crashes were fixed for me by restoring from a recent backup ('restore from backup' in iTunes NOT restore iPhone), not tested with non dev-registered phones so do this at your own risk.

TBi

I don't have any backup of 6.1.4 in iTunes (in hindsight it would have been a good idea) but i was short on time and just thought what the hell

Was nice to try out but i'm going back to 6 until the GM.

DubDJ

Now that all the excitement of WWDC has died down and i've gotten to really use iOS 7 and actually get used to the new look and feel my overall opinion is definitely positive.

Every time I tap the power button and the screen lights up I think it's a new phone. The new parallax effect, combined with the new Galaxy wallpaper and new cleaner fonts and lockscreen UI just make the phone look so much better and absolutely gorgeous imo. It's exciting to pick up my phone and be greeted by this whole new design, and looking at these changes I can understand a bit better how people felt iOS looked stale.

I was afraid of the changes Apple could of brought in that ruined iOS, and I didn't want to see that happen. But I think they've done an amazing job on the revamp. The new animations, the UI redo and the new features that were badly needed for some time just make this whole OS update my favourite one by far.

Another thing i'm amazed at is how stable the beta 1 is. For such big changes and feature additions to be included and have the OS running so smoothly is a big surprise for me. I still haven't come across one problem that's forcing me to downgrade. In the past i've tried betas of much smaller updates and just couldn't use them.

I think Apple have done an amazing job on the update. Only issues I can see (and it seems to be the general consensus) is that some of the chosen stock icons just don't look right. Safari, Mail, Phone and Messages I think need a change. They're too bright and needed to be darkened down or something. But saying that some of the others like Calendar, Weather & Compass I love.

Overall a solid update that has definitely got me excited about iOS again.

whitelightrider

DubDJ wrote: »

Now that all the excitement of WWDC has died down and i've gotten to really use iOS 7 and actually get used to the new look and feel my overall opinion is definitely positive.

Every time I tap the power button and the screen lights up I think it's a new phone. The new parallax effect, combined with the new Galaxy wallpaper and new cleaner fonts and lockscreen UI just make the phone look so much better and absolutely gorgeous imo. It's exciting to pick up my phone and be greeted by this whole new design, and looking at these changes I can understand a bit better how people felt iOS looked stale.

I was afraid of the changes Apple could of brought in that ruined iOS, and I didn't want to see that happen. But I think they've done an amazing job on the revamp. The new animations, the UI redo and the new features that were badly needed for some time just make this whole OS update my favourite one by far.

Another thing i'm amazed at is how stable the beta 1 is. For such big changes and feature additions to be included and have the OS running so smoothly is a big surprise for me. I still haven't come across one problem that's forcing me to downgrade. In the past i've tried betas of much smaller updates and just couldn't use them.

I think Apple have done an amazing job on the update. Only issues I can see (and it seems to be the general consensus) is that some of the chosen stock icons just don't look right. Safari, Mail, Phone and Messages I think need a change. They're too bright and needed to be darkened down or something. But saying that some of the others like Calendar, Weather & Compass I love.

Overall a solid update that has definitely got me excited about iOS again.

Did you have to activate yours? I managed to get ios 7 onto the phone but was asked to activate so just restoring now

DubDJ

whitelightrider wrote: »

Did you have to activate yours? I managed to get ios 7 onto the phone but was asked to activate so just restoring now

Nope the whole process was simple and took about 5 minutes once I had the iOS 7 file downloaded.

2 things to check. When you were updating are you sure you clicked 'Check for updates" and not "Restore". DO NOT click the Restore button.

Also make sure you downloaded the correct version of iOS 7 for your specific phone.

shanec1928

whitelightrider wrote: »

Did you have to activate yours? I managed to get ios 7 onto the phone but was asked to activate so just restoring now

when you go to install iOS 7 you dont alt click on restore you click on update. then it should work.

Sad Professor

Interesting point about the "flatness" of the interface:

One could argue that by making the user interface behave as if it is backlit, Apple is treating iOS 7 as a more integral part of the device itself. It’s not a mock front-lit interface with shadows and textures, it is a representation of the actual physical screen.

Source (via The Loop)

All the moaning about the colour of the icons is missing what is probably the most unique and innovative thing about the new interface: the sense of visual depth. While Apple have clearly borrowed from Microsoft's Metro interface, they've also improved on it enormously. iOS 7 is not flat like Metro is; there's layers of depth. If Apple continue to build on this, the result could be quite remarkable.

Savage Tyrant

Anyone that's using iOS 7... Is your device "remembering" your settings on safari?
For example, every single time I click from an email into boards.ie it forgets that I had selected "full site" rather than touch site the previous visit. And also it doesn't jump to the first unread post, but to the first post on the first page.

Anyone else getting that?

matchthis

I can only get the mobile site. Clicked on full site at bottom of page and also tried taking "touch" outta the address. Just loads touch again. Pain in my tits, but hey, early days yet

DubDJ

Savage Tyrant wrote: »

And also it doesn't jump to the first unread post, but to the first post on the first page.

Anyone else getting that?

Yeah it's leaving me a few posts up the page and not bringing me up to the most recent unread post. Hopefully it gets sorted it's a really handy feature of the Boards touch site.

redt0m

Knew there was something off about the homescreen:

iOS7 dayglo Barbie makeover is UNFINISHED

Graham

redt0m wrote: »

Knew there was something off about the homescreen:

iOS7 dayglo Barbie makeover is UNFINISHED

You didn't suspect iOS 7 was unfinished when it was only released to developers and had a 'Beta' tag attached to it?

redt0m

Graham wrote: »

You didn't suspect iOS 7 was unfinished when it was only released to developers and had a 'Beta' tag attached to it?

Steve Jobs wouldn't have let that out the door...

Graham

http://forums.appleinsider.com/t/152839/rules-of-the-troll-wip

see #46

redt0m

Graham wrote: »

http://forums.appleinsider.com/t/152839/rules-of-the-troll-wip

see #46

Well, excuse me for expressing an opinion...

DubDJ

redt0m wrote: »

Steve Jobs wouldn't have let that out the door...

General consensus seem to love it, except for certain App icons. Even all the Android Fanboys are using different arguments. Instead of "boring, crap and nothings changed" they've moved to "Android already had that" and "Apple copied Jellybean". To me that sounds like even they really like it.

Plus you have to remember that Apple wasn't Steve Jobs. There was a whole team that built, designed, coded and marketed these products. Now they're one man down. Lead designer Jony Ive is still there and still doing that he does best. Surely if it was so bad he wouldn't of let it out the door either.

miralize

Its not even a beta, its a developer preview, the first DP. Things will change.

When you think about it, in 7 months they did an alight job in rethinking an entire OS functionality. There's a lot of problems though, but I'd assume that it will be ready for September.

Duggys Housemate

redt0m wrote: »

Well, excuse me for expressing an opinion...

Nobody is stopping you - you need a justification for your opinion.

The register article is click bait for anti-Apple idiots, this is a developer release not a beta, not even for general consumption ( despite showing some stuff in the KeyNote). Its always the case that either API or Look and Feel are not finalized because there are 3-4 months to do all that. Which is a lot of time for a team like Apple.

What is released for the WWDC is the most stable build of the OS which is ready the week before WWDC, and that is all. It is one of many dev previews, increasing in frequency from now, and generally reducing in frequency towards release dates. APIs will start to work, bugs will be fixed and icons will change. This is always the case ( just this time there are more icons to change).

I am pretty sure they will add more icons. Change icons etc. For instance iBooks is still the old skeumophic interface, but nobody is ranting about inconsistency there

Cale

Did they make note of that at the conference - that it wasn't even a beta etc re the look?

If not then it looks like they've just backed down against the negative reaction and tried to save face.

Hard to see them having such an unveiling for something they might not run with.

I know the features are the main point of the OS, but still...

Regardless, can't wait to see the finished article.

Graham

Sorry guys/gals but it is a beta, it was unveiled at the developer conference to give the developers an opportunity to test/re-work their Apps prior to a public release.

https://developer.apple.com/ios7/

Note the title 'iOS 7 beta for developers'.

As in most beta products, it is subject to change/refinement.

mad muffin

It's plastered all over Apples website. Galleries, images, videos.

They might change an icon or two but the look and feel will stay the same.

White, white, everywhere with neon and pastel all over the place.

culabula

mad muffin wrote: »

It's plastered all over Apples website. Galleries, images, videos.

They might change an icon or two but the look and feel will stay the same.

White, white, everywhere with neon and pastel all over the place.

Not this time. More than any other iOS release, this is clearly a work-in-progress. A radical departure. Expect a lot of changes. It's obvious, for example, that the folders are simply tossed off and will change in look in betas to come.

mad muffin

culabula wrote: »

Not this time. More than any other iOS release, this is clearly a work-in-progress. A radical departure. Expect a lot of changes. It's obvious, for example, that the folders are simply tossed off and will change in look in betas to come.

I hope you are right.

Personally I don't see it happening.

120_Minutes

Can anyone find airplay mirroring? or is it gone?

Graham

120_Minutes wrote: »

Can anyone find airplay mirroring? or is it gone?

I can find it within some apps, e.g. iTunes Store. Not able to find it anywhere else though.

DubDJ

Isn't Airplay in the Control Centre? Shows up for me beside AirDrop even with no Apple TV turned on.

There will definitely be changes. Some of the Apple apps from the Store like iBooks and Podcasts will definitely be updated with the new design in mind. Plus theres also a lack of the old Voice Memos app (which I actually hope stays off the phone, just one less stock app that I never use). The problems most people are pointing to are so small in the overall change to the OS. It wouldn't bother me that much if they didn't change it. The positives outweigh the negatives imo.

Cale

Yep, it's in the control centre.

Graham

I don't have airplay in the control centre at all, AirDrop is on it's own. I'm sure I do remember seeing it there at some point though.

I can see the Airplay devices when I'm in something like the iTunes store though. Hmmmm

Cale

Graham wrote: »

I don't have airplay in the control centre at all, AirDrop is on it's own. I'm sure I do remember seeing it there at some point though.

I can see the Airplay devices when I'm in something like the iTunes store though. Hmmmm

Apologies, it might have been airdrop I saw.

Graham

Cale wrote: »

Apologies, it might have been airdrop I saw.

Nope, you were right the first time. Quick restart of the phone and there it is right next to AirDrop.

DubDJ

OK first major annoyance with the iOS 7 beta. I just downloaded two apps via iTunes on my Mac. Added one to a folder and the other on the main app page. And I began syncing. Everything was fine until I unlocked my phone and see that the iPhone has just randomly emptied folders out on the homescreen. Seems to be an issue with Folders having the maximum amount of apps before iOS 7. Plus through iTunes you still get the folder view. I've synced before no problem. Seems to be just adding new apps causes the issue.

120_Minutes

never mind, i'm an idiot i found it. when i checked last it wasnt in the control centre. now it is.

mad muffin

I see parallax also works on the lock screen. And are my eyes deceiving me? Does the locksreen fade in when you press the home button?

DubDJ

mad muffin wrote: »

I see parallax also works on the lock screen. And are my eyes deceiving me? Does the locksreen fade in when you press the home button?

Yeah one of the new animations. Fade in and out. The parallax effect is one of my favourite features of the whole update.

mad muffin

9to5 are reporting that they are already changing some icons