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WWDC 2013 announced for June 10-14

  • 24-04-2013 1:05pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,359 ✭✭✭


    Apple just announced that this years developer conference will take place this June and will focus on "the future of iOS and OS X".
    wwdc_2013.jpg

    Looking forward to see what new software will be released. As always, there's a possibility of new Macs been announced too. Can't imagine there'll be any iPhone, iPad or iPod updates though. Probably leave them till later this year.

    Full press release.
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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,426 ✭✭✭McGrath5


    For me this is going to be all about iOS 7.

    Nice logo to, all the colours are kind of blended together, maybe this means closer links between OS X and iOS??

    Just seen tickets are priced at $1599 :eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,359 ✭✭✭DubDJ


    For me this is going to be all about iOS 7.

    Nice logo to, all the colours are kind of blended together, maybe this means closer links between OS X and iOS??

    Just seen tickets are priced at $1599 :eek:

    Interested to see if any of the changes in Apple management will be reflected in these updates. Very little time to make significant changes but I can see some small tweaks throughout both OSes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 844 ✭✭✭eirlink


    theres usually a hint / theme in the logos every year. My guess is those colours in this years logo will be new range of cheaper iphones.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,584 ✭✭✭✭Creamy Goodness


    Just seen tickets are priced at $1599 :eek:

    price is cheap when you consider it's a week long and you actually learn a **** load and usually that work pays for you to go.

    what's not cheap are the flights, the hotel and expenses for week.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,359 ✭✭✭DubDJ


    eirlink wrote: »
    theres usually a hint / theme in the logos every year. My guess is those colours in this years logo will be new range of cheaper iphones.

    I can't imagine they'll be announcing a new iPhone or any iDevices tbh. It's gonna be very software focused, even the invites specifically mention iOS and OS X. Maybe they'll update the MBA or Mac Mini. But cant see a whole lot else.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,584 ✭✭✭✭Creamy Goodness


    Omg I see the message in the logo.

    It's a swatch of colours. Swatch. Swatch - s = watch. They're going release a watch.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,034 ✭✭✭mad muffin


    I don't think they'll announce any new products.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,359 ✭✭✭DubDJ


    Tickets sold out for this years WWDC in 2 minutes. Crazy, last year was a few hours. The year before even longer. They still have hype even without major product announcements at the event.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,487 ✭✭✭banquo


    I'm not expecting a watch, but it's the shape of a watch, has roman numerals and the tagline "The wait is finally over."

    It really looks like clues to a watch. But I'm still not expecting one.

    Edit: It's also the shape of the standard app icon, and the apple tv unit.Atv sdk?

    Most likely unification across platform. Its all the shapes of the 2012 wwdc invite overlayed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,359 ✭✭✭DubDJ


    banquo wrote: »
    I'm not expecting a watch, but it's the shape of a watch, has roman numerals and the tagline "The wait is finally over."

    It really looks like clues to a watch. But I'm still not expecting one.

    Edit: It's also the shape of the standard app icon, and the apple tv unit.Atv sdk?

    Most likely unification across platform. Its all the shapes of the 2012 wwdc invite overlayed.

    One thing I'd hope to see is an ATV SDK. It would really make it a memorable event. I'd love to see it but at the same time I don't expect it. But who knows :D


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,155 ✭✭✭Stainless_Steel


    This event will be important for Jony Ive. We will see what he's been up to in his new role with UI design.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,487 ✭✭✭banquo


    I'm as keen as anyone to see what Ive's been up to, but let's remember that he's only been at it since october. Will be a full year I reckon before we see how he's really doing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,359 ✭✭✭DubDJ


    9to5Mac have posted some of the expected features coming in OS X 10.9. Mainly aimed at power users with a possibility of Siri integration. They've a great track record of getting things spot on every year so I'd take these as pretty much fact :D

    Nothing that really catches my attention but I'd like to see a more customisable Finder, something I still think is lacking in OS X. Another thing I think is missing, even if Caffeine fills the gap, is better power options. Like choosing what closing the lid does. It's annoying that you can leave the MacBook running and it automatically shuts down. Things like that I think need to be added as they're basic features.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,359 ✭✭✭DubDJ


    Seems like there's a also a big change coming to iOS this year with the release of iOS 7. A big focus on 'flatness' it seems. Details here.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,630 ✭✭✭Plowman


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,359 ✭✭✭DubDJ


    Some interesting details of the possible new look and feel of iOS 7. The 'flat' look again being pushed big time. Also a tweaked lock screen, possibility of quick settings in notification centre and pan-able wallpapers (like on Android).

    Full details from 9To5Mac. Could be a big possibility, this website has a great track record for getting things right.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,359 ✭✭✭DubDJ


    So 1 week until the conference kicks off. Lots of rumours flying of a major focus on an iOS 7 redesign making it a much more 'Flat' OS and removing all of the Skuemorphism added by Forstall.

    Also looks likely we'll see 4 updates to the MacBook family. Supposedly 2 MacBook Airs and 2 MacBook Pro w/ Retina. OS X will be getting a lot of 'Power User' features that some will love, others won't care.

    Have to say I think it looks like the 'Flat' rumours could be true going by the WWDC app released today. Example below.
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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,534 ✭✭✭Dman001


    img_9035.jpeg

    If there is any hint to what could be announces at WWDC within the invite, I reckon it's "Flat" iOS7 design, the squares being the App icons, especially going by the banner above.

    Really hoping for big things in iOS7, the last update was so lackluster and failing to sell what innovative things Apple can do. So much can be done with the iPad, for example, with the Home Screen with all the screen estate. It needs a reinvention and I have full faith Johnny Ive can pull it off. My only fear is that "Flat" could mean boring, or over simplistic design, the totally opposite of the skeuomorphic design we have now - a good balance is needed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,584 ✭✭✭✭Creamy Goodness


    it's not going to be flat. if anything it's going to be more of a matte finish.

    tbh i think this whole talk of a redesign is blown way way way way out of proportion.

    here's what i think is going to happen...

    1. the redesign everyone is talking about will be more of a 'steer iOS back on to the path that it took 5 years ago', with minor UI updates (like the status bar up top being able to blend in with the navigation bars of apps).
    2. updated figures on devices sold/ibooks/etc.
    3. We'll get a couple of really nice features for iOS and OS X.
    4. a handful of bug fixes
    5. a truck load of new api's*
    6. new macbooks.

    * remember this is a developer event, there may not even be product launches here.

    I think however and not a lot of sites have been pushing this - instead pushing iRadio and flat ui - is that apple will announce a more opened up version of the iOS that runs on AppleTv, opening it up for developers to write apps for. Call me crazy but this would be on my wishlist.

    finally read this - http://www.loopinsight.com/2013/05/29/wwdc-expectations/ if you expect any more than that at wwdc you're going to be disappointed.

    finally finally, whatever apple announce even if it's unicorns that shoot sweet devine nectar from its mouth and ****s rainbows people will still give out about it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,359 ✭✭✭DubDJ


    I'd really like to see an App Store for the ATV but I don't see it happening anytime soon. Normally details leak out but I haven't seen anything so far.

    Looks like each of the core apps could get the 'Flat' minimal look and each having their own colour scheme. E.g. green for Phone, blue for Messages, brown for Contacts and so on. Looking at the invites and banners it seems to be a lot of apps each with it's own colour.

    Not getting my hopes up at all though. All I want is software updates this year, wont be buying any new Apple products. So just hoping we get a few useful features. My favourite for a while has to be the whole iCloud thing. Makes things so much better and nicer to use.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,385 ✭✭✭FourFourRED


    * remember this is a developer event, there may not even be product launches here.

    Just because it is a developer event, it doesn't mean there won't be new products. iPhone 4 was released at WWDC in 2010 as well as the Retina Macbook Pro last year.

    New product announcements are very much related to developers, in order for them to make the app's etc. So an iWatch could be revealed at the keynote but I don't think so.



    I agree that iOS 7 won't be a major change but it will definitely be a big step towards a new future of iOS which I think will be very different when iOS 8 comes along. Let's face it. Forstall was still working on iOS 7 from June last year up to his dismissal so Ive would have had to do a crazy amount of work to change it all.

    iOS caters for so many millions of people that Apple can't simply afford to change it around so drastically anyway. They won't change it just to satisfy 'techy people's' needs. iOS is too widespread across so many different industries to do that.

    It will most likely be a polish of the whole OS with a flatter look in terms of killing off skeuomorphism and bringing some new features in.

    Tim Cook did say they were going to open up iOS a bit so maybe expect Apple allowing you to choose your own default applications for example Chrome as your browser instead of Safari. Apple TV AppStore is well overdue and Apple are very focussed on this area.


    Tim Cook's full D11 interview helps us to understand what might come about with iOS 7 and future products:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ta-01_iMmSI


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,359 ✭✭✭DubDJ


    I reckon iOS 7 is going to be more of a design change than anything. I really doubt there'll be much added feature wise. Maybe take some of the stock apps from the iPhone and add them to the iPad. Like Calculator and Stocks. Unfortunately I can't see too much added feature wise. I'd like to see a few basics such as quick settings but again Apple seem to overlook a lot of the basics. Look at how long it took to implement a proper Notification Centre.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,385 ✭✭✭FourFourRED


    DubDJ wrote: »
    I reckon iOS 7 is going to be more of a design change than anything. I really doubt there'll be much added feature wise. Maybe take some of the stock apps from the iPhone and add them to the iPad. Like Calculator and Stocks. Unfortunately I can't see too much added feature wise. I'd like to see a few basics such as quick settings but again Apple seem to overlook a lot of the basics. Look at how long it took to implement a proper Notification Centre.

    They can't possibly appear on stage on Monday and say they have made plenty of design changes and not announce new iOS features though?

    Maybe none of the features will be actually useful though :P :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,541 ✭✭✭Dudda


    Everyone has mentioned the design changes but I'm hoping for a lot of minor updates. Just little things that all add up to a better overall user experience like allowing certain apps to auto update when charging and connected to wifi rather than having to manually update. Syncing higher resolution images for contacts. Custom profiles like setting it to School, Office, Sleep etc that automatically change ring, vibration and screen brightness etc. Shortcut menu to wifi, bluetooth, etc like others are mentioning. Widgits in some shape so I know what the score is in a football match without opening an app. This I love on Android and enable it for lockscreen too. Guest mode or multiple user profiles to allow sharing especially for the iPad. I'd like to have the ability to make Google Maps default instead of Apple's maps but I doubt they'll allow this. Synced notifications too. If I get an email and read it I want the notification to disappear on other iOS devices. Lots of little improvements like these I'd like to see.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,359 ✭✭✭DubDJ


    Aodhagan wrote: »
    They can't possibly appear on stage on Monday and say they have made plenty of design changes and not announce new iOS features though?

    Maybe none of the features will be actually useful though :P :pac:

    Oh there'll be features but nothing groundbreaking. What could they add that people would be happy with. The quick settings I'm sure is top of the list for a lot of people. But we'll see on Monday. I'm sure of some type of design tweak anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,359 ✭✭✭DubDJ


    Looks like new MacBook Airs will be some of the new Macs being announced at the conference. Hopefully featuring the new intel Haswell processors. Big step forward for battery life which is always a big thing IMO. One of the more important factors when I'm buying laptop.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,359 ✭✭✭DubDJ


    Decent rumour roundup here of what to expect this Monday.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,564 ✭✭✭Deep Thought


    Would love to see radio enabled, and shortcuts to Bluetooth etc..

    Would also love to have a lockscreen like Android where it has the flip time and the weather

    The narrower a man’s mind, the broader his statements.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,472 ✭✭✭✭Blazer


    I'd be happy with bluetooth file sharing and setting shortcuts in the notification bar.
    Also I wish they'd buy or integrate swiftkey into their keyboard..it's bloody fantastic.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,359 ✭✭✭DubDJ


    Would love to see radio enabled, and shortcuts to Bluetooth etc..

    Would also love to have a lockscreen like Android where it has the flip time and the weather

    That would be more of a hardware update than software would it not? So I doubt we'll see it Monday. I don't like the look of the Android lock screen. But I would like to see a new cleaner and more interactive version. Apple's take on what the Android one should look like.

    I think iOS 1.0 - 3.0 was getting all the basics it needed. With iOS 4 and 5 lots of great changes were added that made it even better, specifically iCloud IMO. iOS 6 wasn't anything special. I think more of a focus went to intergrating it to OS X. They've had a very quiet 2013 so far so I'd love to see a few great surprises. But I won't hold my breath.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,426 ✭✭✭McGrath5


    DubDJ wrote: »
    They've had a very quiet 2013 so far so I'd love to see a few great surprises. But I won't hold my breath.

    Is this the longest we have ever gone without a new Apple product been launched?


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 22,693 CMod ✭✭✭✭Sad Professor


    I'm actually most looking forward to iRadio. Of course, it won't be available here until god knows when, but I could really do with a good music discovery service. Spotify is okay, I guess, but it works out very expensive in the long run and I prefer to own music.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,359 ✭✭✭DubDJ


    McGrath5 wrote: »
    Is this the longest we have ever gone without a new Apple product been launched?

    In the last few years probably yeah. Last year there had already been an education event, an iPad event and the quiet release of Mountain Lion. So far the biggest thing to come from Apple this year is the 128Gb iPad and the updated iPod Touch from last week. Nothing news worthy even. So it has been all quiet so far. Probably to do with the late October event for the iPad mini.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,359 ✭✭✭DubDJ


    iOS 7 Banner is a little different this year.
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    OS X looks very different. Is this the new default background?
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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 22,693 CMod ✭✭✭✭Sad Professor


    Sea Lion?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,359 ✭✭✭DubDJ


    Have to say I'd miss the old desktop backgrounds. They were gorgeous and made the desktop stand out. It's like a new feature I look forward to seeing with the update.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,385 ✭✭✭FourFourRED




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,633 ✭✭✭✭murpho999


    So is io7 really just going to be about flatter design and ridding it of tacky Forstall skeumorphism?

    Surely there must be some major functionality changes as well? The look is really cosmetic.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,584 ✭✭✭✭Creamy Goodness


    Blazer wrote: »
    I'd be happy with bluetooth file sharing and setting shortcuts in the notification bar.
    Also I wish they'd buy or integrate swiftkey into their keyboard..it's bloody fantastic.
    If we get file sharing it won't be over bluetooth. bluetooth is a horror for file transfers, ad hoc wifi is much better and more likely solution considering that's what airdrop on macs use.
    Would love to see radio enabled, and shortcuts to Bluetooth etc..

    Would also love to have a lockscreen like Android where it has the flip time and the weather
    radio? people still listen to irish radio?

    why would you want the weather - of all things - on the lock screen? look out the window :D. I hate the flip time on android as it always has to readjust the time when you turn the screen on.
    DubDJ wrote: »
    Have to say I'd miss the old desktop backgrounds. They were gorgeous and made the desktop stand out. It's like a new feature I look forward to seeing with the update.
    I'm sure you can download them or find where they are on the file system and throw them into your dropbox for safe keeping.
    Aodhagan wrote: »
    I have to admit, 'designers' put a huge amount of effort into concepts for iOS 7 and they're all terrible and only serve one purpose, to drive traffic to their sites. they're always WAY off the mark and if they were actually good designers they'd be working on something special like iOS/OS X.
    murpho999 wrote: »
    So is io7 really just going to be about flatter design and ridding it of tacky Forstall skeumorphism?

    Surely there must be some major functionality changes as well? The look is really cosmetic.
    What look? are you basing what iOS 7 is going to be like based on a few banners? There will be new features as well.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,633 ✭✭✭✭murpho999



    What look? are you basing what iOS 7 is going to be like based on a few banners? There will be new features as well.

    My point was, Mr Angry, that all the talk and discussions of ios7 seems to be the looks and Ive's influence on the design but not much about the functions, which are more important.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,584 ✭✭✭✭Creamy Goodness


    murpho999 wrote: »
    My point was, Mr Angry, that all the talk and discussions of ios7 seems to be the looks and Ive's influence on the design but not much about the functions, which are more important.
    I'm not angry in the slightest, it's just funny how a lot of people want these features that we'll never get as we're paying apple to make the right choices for us. we'll get features but i'm just trying to be realistic and not hope for features that rival samsung's GS4. We all need an easy mode on our iphone right?, RIGHT?

    the redesign - nay refresh - is a huge story it drives traffic more than speculation of new features, it's also - bar iRadio - the only rumour that seems to have hard evidence to back it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,359 ✭✭✭DubDJ


    I'm sure you can download them or find where they are on the file system and throw them into your dropbox for safe keeping.

    Not the point I'm saying I'll miss the new background added with every update. Something I look forward to. These new backgrounds don't look had as good. Then again maybe its nothing to do with the desktop background.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,564 ✭✭✭Deep Thought


    I

    radio? people still listen to irish radio?

    why would you want the weather - of all things - on the lock screen? look out the window :D. I hate the flip time on android as it always has to readjust the time when you turn the screen on.

    Yes I listen to radio...

    Not every location I am in has a window...and I like a bigger clock so I can see the time more clearly.

    Why would someone question everything everyone else has said ?

    The narrower a man’s mind, the broader his statements.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,385 ✭✭✭FourFourRED


    DubDJ wrote: »
    Not the point I'm saying I'll miss the new background added with every update. Something I look forward to. These new backgrounds don't look had as good. Then again maybe its nothing to do with the desktop background.

    You're getting this from one poster? The OS X default wallpapers have never had anything to do with posters at WWDC. I would expect them to launch a new galaxy themed wallpaper for OS X.9 as well.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,359 ✭✭✭DubDJ


    Aodhagan wrote: »
    You're getting this from one poster? The OS X default wallpapers have never had anything to do with posters at WWDC. I would expect them to launch a new galaxy themed wallpaper for OS X.9 as well.

    Nope they don't usually have any background. The new wave theme is a strange one. And It made me think maybe they're changing the background wallpaper. Obviously we know nothing until Monday. Curious to the name as well actually. Usually cats so maybe OS X Sabertooth :D Haha Or perhaps this below?
    7kQO7Ir.jpg?2


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,584 ✭✭✭✭Creamy Goodness


    Why would someone question everything everyone else has said ?

    Things on a discussion forum would be quite boring if people didn't question and discuss things ya know? :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,408 ✭✭✭naasrd


    I'm hoping for an overhaul of Mail. The only reason I jailbroke was to get push for Sparrow mail. There's also some great Cydia tweaks I'd like to see incorporated; intelliscreenx, Aloud (I'm sure Siri could integrate something similar) and Auxo.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,359 ✭✭✭DubDJ


    So this time tomorrow we'll know what we'll be getting with the latest update. I've a strong feeling its gonna be a very underwhelming keynote.

    A few things that I'd love to see, but almost 99% won't be seeing announced tomorrow.

    The first and top of my list would have to be an App Store for Apple TV. I could just see so many possibilities there and I'm surprised Apple hasn't done anything about it. RTE Player, TV Guides, Facebook, Maps, and games such as Angry birds. It has built in Bluetooth so any iOS device could be integrated as a controller using the remote app. I think it could be their new big area of interest.

    Second would have to be a more customisable iOS. And I'm not talking about widgets. Love to be able to remove stock apps that aren't essential such as stocks and weather and use better third party alternatives. Live icons would be a nice addition too. Maybe even for some of the core apps like settings, phone, messages etc.

    A better version of iCloud. While I love what it does id love to see a more Dropbox like service added too. So best of both worlds allowing you to sync almost anything between devices. Whether bought through the App Store or just something you added yourself like a video or a document.

    A better sharing system for moving files between devices. Even if its just photos and videos. Some kind of open source platform for all devices. It's annoying not being able to send stuff to family and friends that don't have an up to date iOS device with Photostream. Maybe AirDrop but a better version.

    Again I can't see any of this happening tomorrow, some of it never happening at all. Still all the above would definitely be on my wish list.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 22,693 CMod ✭✭✭✭Sad Professor


    iOS 7, OS 10.9, iRadio and some Mac hardware announcements is all I'm expecting tomorrow. And that's more than enough. I get the feeling IOS 7 will be mostly cosmetic and under-the-hood improvements.

    I'm not sure if it will be in iOS 7, but file management is something I suspect Apple have been working on for quite some time. The challenge they face is how to do it without abandoning the app-centric approach that has worked so well on iOS to date.

    An AppleTV SDK is inevitable but they'll announce it a dedicated event when their full television offering is ready.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,359 ✭✭✭DubDJ


    An AppleTV SDK is inevitable but they'll announce it a dedicated event when their full television offering is ready.

    I'm not too sure. Seems like its taking forever and no rumours or leaks as of yet. I'd expect new Hardware to go with it too. I think your right about iRadio. Google got there first so they'll have to offer something bigger and better IMO.


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