M11 - Arklow to Rathnew

spacetweek · 06-06-2013 11:05AM

Quickelles wrote: »

I notice this thread is celebrating it's eight birthday..and finally the sod turns?

Shocking! o_O

PoolDude · 06-06-2013 01:32PM

... and I'm still here 8 years on .. waiting

mydiscworld · 06-06-2013 01:57PM

RTE reporting work has now begun

http://www.rte.ie/news/2013/0606/454839-n7-n11-upgrade/

spank_inferno · 06-06-2013 04:55PM

8 years later.

I wonder how many lives have been lost on that road in the last 8 years?

L1011 · 06-06-2013 06:02PM

A very quick search shows at least 5 assuming the locations are all correct

http://www.independent.ie/breaking-news/irish-news/n11-reopens-after-two-car-collision-that-left-one-man-dead-26310604.html

http://www.independent.ie/regionals/wicklowpeople/news/two-people-lost-their-lives-in-accident-on-n11-man-arrested-in-fatal-crash-investigation-27739138.html

http://www.wicklownews.net/Post/2012/10/2939/fatal-accident-close-to-jack-whites

http://www.independent.ie/regionals/wicklowpeople/news/garda-appeal-for-witnesses-after-early-morning-fatal-crash-27848351.html

vicwatson · 06-06-2013 10:09PM

Anyone got a decent sized map of this road scheme? Have searched Wicklow.ie but cannot find one.

TIA

delaido · 07-06-2013 10:34AM

Sod turned! So are the diggers finally at work ?

Bullseye1 · 09-06-2013 09:38AM

I think they are mini diggers. Cannot see them.

Quickelles · 09-06-2013 07:26PM

I weep (well....almost) to see the past six weeks of wonderful earthmoving weather all wasted while they fail to get started.

According to a local free-sheet they are only advertising for workers now for some parts of the job.

antoobrien · 10-06-2013 08:22AM

Quickelles wrote: »

I weep (well....almost) to see the past six weeks of wonderful earthmoving weather all wasted while they fail to get started.

According to a local free-sheet they are only advertising for workers now for some parts of the job.

I was talking to a guy working on the Ballaghaderreen Bypass over the weekend, he told me that it can take 3 months to get the compounds and site facilities in place. Just because you can't see anything happening doesn't mean that there isn't progress.

JonnyM · 10-06-2013 08:47AM

Quickelles wrote: »

I weep (well....almost) to see the past six weeks of wonderful earthmoving weather all wasted while they fail to get started.

According to a local free-sheet they are only advertising for workers now for some parts of the job.

They have been looking for construction/trade workers since the 23rd of may (approx) on the BAM construction website.

JonnyM · 10-06-2013 08:51AM

Just on a side note has anyone that applied for these positions through BAM construction heard anything back yet??

nordydan · 11-06-2013 11:13AM

jd wrote: »

That reminds me - did anybody ever find a detailed map of the scheme? I have one for Gorey-Enniscorthy, I can't find one for Rathnew-Arklow.

http://www.wicklow.ie/apps/wicklowbeta/RoadsTransInfrast/N11%20Rathnew-Arklow.pdf

One here, not sure if posted already

Quickelles · 11-06-2013 08:43PM

nordydan wrote: »

http://www.wicklow.ie/apps/wicklowbeta/RoadsTransInfrast/N11%20Rathnew-Arklow.pdf

I can't figure how the northern tie-in works.

L1011 · 11-06-2013 08:47PM

Quickelles wrote: »

I can't figure how the northern tie-in works.

Existing road becomes one of the offramps, existing Beehive junction becomes a roundabout, road is dug heavily down is how I see it. Basically there'll be a very large distance between the offramp and onramp.

I would hazard a guess that the earthworks for there and the C/D roads (I think? map is quite unclear there) where the existing mainline is to be subsumed will be the first to be started; this was the case on the M3 where it had major cuttings and also subsumed the old N3.

spacetweek · 12-06-2013 11:33AM

Great map, but there seems to be some frontage access along the northern part? I'm unclear how they're going to motorwayify this.

jd · 12-06-2013 12:02PM

spacetweek wrote: »

Great map, but there seems to be some frontage access along the northern part? I'm unclear how they're going to motorwayify this.

Yeah, is that a lilo for Coillte?

roadmaster · 12-06-2013 04:58PM

JonnyM wrote: »

Just on a side note has anyone that applied for these positions through BAM construction heard anything back yet??

My friend and his cousin applied for project manager or agent and his cousin for foreman. They are still checking there emails everyday for even word of a interview let alone get a job

vickers209 · 13-06-2013 10:22AM

nordydan wrote: »

http://www.wicklow.ie/apps/wicklowbeta/RoadsTransInfrast/N11%20Rathnew-Arklow.pdf

One here, not sure if posted already

Looking at that Map It looks like most of the exsiting N11 will be Left after compleation except at jack whites and arklow tie in.

Leaves the question will the road be upgraded to motorway status when completed as for a road to be motorway generaly there has to be an alternative road for learners ect like the m1 m2 m3 m4 m6 all have the old n roads running parrell to them still.

jd · 13-06-2013 10:49AM

vickers209 wrote: »

Looking at that Map It looks like most of the exsiting N11 will be Left after compleation except at jack whites and arklow tie in.

Leaves the question will the road be upgraded to motorway status when completed as for a road to be motorway generaly there has to be an alternative road for learners ect like the m1 m2 m3 m4 m6 all have the old n roads running parrell to them still.

I can't see the issue - there willl be a roundabout at Jack Whites's (old N11 will be at right hand dumbbell going north), and distributor road crosses motorway near tie-in.
The issue with motorway is that lilo for Coillte near Ballinameesda bends.

loyatemu · 13-06-2013 11:29AM

jd wrote: »

I can't see the issue - there willl be a roundabout at Jack Whites's (old N11 will be at right hand dumbbell going north), and distributor road crosses motorway near tie-in.
The issue with motorway is that lilo for Coillte near Ballinameesda bends.

there are LILOs elsewhere on the motorway network.

jd · 13-06-2013 11:53AM

loyatemu wrote: »

there are LILOs elsewhere on the motorway network.

I know, but this is for a private entrance.

L1011 · 13-06-2013 12:08PM

jd wrote: »

I know, but this is for a private entrance.

Currently a lot of Coilte forests provide public access, I'm sure this can be arranged if required - at least for as long as Coilte stays in public hands.

spacetweek · 13-06-2013 01:21PM

jd wrote: »

I know, but this is for a private entrance.

There are a small number of private entrances on motorways in Ireland. They are only for emergency/very occasional use.

vickers209 · 13-06-2013 01:28PM

jd wrote: »

I can't see the issue - there willl be a roundabout at Jack Whites's (old N11 will be at right hand dumbbell going north), and distributor road crosses motorway near tie-in.
The issue with motorway is that lilo for Coillte near Ballinameesda bends.

But looking at it the current road through ballinmeesda it will be still there once the road opens and the can access the wood there from the roundabout at beehive??

L1011 · 13-06-2013 01:34PM

spacetweek wrote: »

There are a small number of private entrances on motorways in Ireland. They are only for emergency/very occasional use.

I believe they're all for emergency use only and NRA or PPP concessionaire access controlled.

Someone on here started insisting they were for farmers, but couldn't support it and never provided any evidence.

veryangryman · 13-06-2013 02:01PM

MYOB wrote: »

I believe they're all for emergency use only and NRA or PPP concessionaire access controlled.

Someone on here started insisting they were for farmers, but couldn't support it and never provided any evidence.

M6 Junction 8 (Kilmartins exit) has one by the roundabout

Carawaystick · 14-06-2013 05:15PM

veryangryman wrote: »

M6 Junction 8 (Kilmartins exit) has one by the roundabout

Is that on the motorway mainline though? Or can it be accessed by non-motorway roads?

There is the fact that the road has to be designated a motorway, and as the minister will be changing the law anyway, he could make a specific change to allow the coillte access
Or he could designate a short bit of the coillte exit as a public non-motorway road

Daa have a gateway from the m1 into one of their long term car parks at the m50/m1 merge.

14-06-2013 06:29PM

Carawaystick wrote: »

Is that on the motorway mainline though? Or can it be accessed by non-motorway roads?

The Kilmartin roundabout connects to the N62 Birr road/west Athlone as well as being at the point where the M6 becomes the N6 Athlone bypass.

veryangryman · 14-06-2013 10:00PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

The Kilmartin roundabout connects to the N62 Birr road/west Athlone as well as being at the point where the M6 becomes the N6 Athlone bypass.

Sorry I mean the roundabout over the main bridge at junction 8. There is a back road there off it

M11 - Arklow to Rathnew

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