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Tox56 · 16-04-2013 10:31PM

ormond lad wrote: »

Good to see 3 youths players join the Leinster academy. With the work being put into the youths system that number will only keep on going up
Usually is end of May/June before Munster announce their academy. Will be interesting to see how many Munster add considering there is only 3 in final year this season

Leinster U18 clubs team looked good this year too, maybe more to come

opinionatedfan · 16-04-2013 10:33PM

5 youth products in total in the academy.

10 players from Dublin(Boyle(21), Coghlan(20), Crosbie(20), Doyle(22), Leavy(18), Marsh(20), McGrath(19), Molony(18), O'Shea(22), Thornbury(19))
5 players from Kildare(Beirne(20), Byrne(18), Dardis(17-18), SCM(21), Tracy(22))
3 players from Carlow(Byrne(19), Byrne(19), Daly(19))
2 players from Wicklow(Conan(20), JVDF(19))
1 player from Wexford(Furlong(20))
1 player from Offaly(Dooley(18))
1 player from Westmeath(Gilsenan(20))

shuffol · 16-04-2013 11:13PM

Would Moloneys absence be due to there already been a number of backrows, specifically opensides already in the academy, you'd imagine other provinces would be looking at him.

opinionatedfan · 16-04-2013 11:16PM

shuffol wrote: »

Would Moloneys absence be due to there already been a number of backrows, specifically opensides already in the academy, you'd imagine other provinces would be looking at him.

yeah, seems like the most obvious thing to me. Very talented kid but we have tons of backrows in the academy and he is still pretty young.

Maybe a year in the sub-academy and then in. Depends where he ends up going to college.

CGD · 17-04-2013 09:55AM

shuffol wrote: »

Would Moloneys absence be due to there already been a number of backrows, specifically opensides already in the academy, you'd imagine other provinces would be looking at him.

Yeah plenty of very good proven backrows in Leinster at the moment. If he develops well next season he is likely to get in next year when contract situation with other backrows will be more clear

schools rugby · 17-04-2013 02:18PM

opinionatedfan wrote: »

no need to apologize, the confusion caused by Molony/Moloney is frequent.

good news on SCM, he missed a lot of time with that illness.

3 schools products and 3 youths products.

Peter Dooley(LH Prop/Youth-Offaly)
Ross Molony(Lock/St.Michaels-Dublin)
Steve Crosbie(Outhalf/St.Gerrards-Dublin)
Tom Daly(Centre/Youth-Carlow)
Adam Byrne(Wing/Youth-Kildare)
Billy Dardis(Fullback/Terenure-Kildare)

Dardis and Molony are the only two schools ?

opinionatedfan · 17-04-2013 02:19PM

schools rugby wrote: »

Dardis and Molony are the only two schools ?

Crosbie is a schools product.

schools rugby · 17-04-2013 02:23PM

opinionatedfan wrote: »

Crosbie is a schools product.

When did he leave school?

FellasFellas · 17-04-2013 02:29PM

schools rugby wrote: »

When did he leave school?

2011.

opinionatedfan · 17-04-2013 02:31PM

schools rugby wrote: »

When did he leave school?

2011.

Creeby · 17-04-2013 02:31PM

schools rugby wrote: »

When did he leave school?

2011.

Hagz · 17-04-2013 02:45PM

schools rugby wrote: »

When did he leave school?

2011.

Tox56 · 17-04-2013 02:51PM

schools rugby wrote: »

When did he leave school?

1982

.ak · 17-04-2013 03:15PM

Tox56 wrote: »

1982

Nuh-uh, as the posters above said it's clearly 2012.

ormond lad · 17-04-2013 08:25PM

Dolphin RFC tweeted a few hours ago that Darren O Shea and John Madigan have been added to Munster academy

opinionatedfan · 17-04-2013 08:28PM

ormond lad wrote: »

Dolphin RFC tweeted a few hours ago that Darren O Shea and John Madigan have been added to Munster academy

both are second rows right?

Madigan being under-20 next year, not sure about O'Shea.

ormond lad · 17-04-2013 08:30PM

opinionatedfan wrote: »

both are second rows right?

Madigan being under-20 next year, not sure about O'Shea.

Yes both are second rows. O Shea is same age group as JJ Hanrahan. ie 92

opinionatedfan · 17-04-2013 08:46PM

ormond lad wrote: »

Yes both are second rows. O Shea is same age group as JJ Hanrahan. ie 92

Pretty old to be going into the academy, what's his story?

Obviously second rows develop later so it's not necessarily a bad thing.

shuffol · 17-04-2013 08:49PM

Munster like their 2nd rows, that'll be 4 in the academy next year. There's 3 in there atm but think Hayes is in his final year.

ormond lad · 17-04-2013 08:52PM

opinionatedfan wrote: »

Pretty old to be going into the academy, what's his story?

Obviously second rows develop later so it's not necessarily a bad thing.

Not that old. Philly Donnellan from Nenagh was 23 at end of last season when he joined the academy.
No idea what Darren o Shea's story is. He played underage for various munster sides. just kept on playing AIL after school. He is from Crosshaven origianlly and played youths with them before going into dolphin when in college i imagine

opinionatedfan · 17-04-2013 08:53PM

thanks, would be pretty surprising if Sean McCarthy didn't make the academy aswell right?

Also what height would you put either O'Shea or Madigan at?

backgreen · 17-04-2013 09:14PM

opinionatedfan wrote: »

thanks, would be pretty surprising if Sean McCarthy didn't make the academy aswell right?

Also what height would you put either O'Shea or Madigan at?[/QUOTE
McCarthy is about 6' 4'' have't seen madigan for a few years

opinionatedfan · 17-04-2013 09:25PM

backgreen wrote: »

opinionatedfan wrote: »

thanks, would be pretty surprising if Sean McCarthy didn't make the academy aswell right?

Also what height would you put either O'Shea or Madigan at?

McCarthy is about 6' 4'' have't seen madigan for a few years

McCarthy is listed at 6'6 here.

http://www.irishrugby.ie/squads/ireland_u20.php?player=110511&includeref=dynamic

lurtz · 17-04-2013 10:04PM

Madigan is very tall these days I hear,6'6 or so

Stanza2 · 17-04-2013 10:07PM

Madigan is about 6'7" a great talent, was an Irish youth player last year. He has a great future in the game.

backgreen · 17-04-2013 10:11PM

opinionatedfan wrote: »

McCarthy is listed at 6'6 here.

http://www.irishrugby.ie/squads/ireland_u20.php?player=110511&includeref=dynamic

maybe on his tip/toes

backgreen · 17-04-2013 10:14PM

niall horan also in academy

opinionatedfan · 17-04-2013 10:24PM

backgreen wrote: »

niall horan also in academy

new outside centre?

BallHandling Hooker · 17-04-2013 10:44PM

FellasFellas wrote: »

Looks like we'll be needing a scrumhalf fairly soon.

There doesn't "need" to be a -player in each position.

I assume someone like Charlie Rock or the Ireland 18s captain Nick McCarthy will get a academy place in the next year or two anyway

CIARAN_BOYLE · 18-04-2013 12:13AM

BallHandling Hooker wrote: »

There doesn't "need" to be a -player in each position.

I assume someone like Charlie Rock or the Ireland 18s captain Nick McCarthy will get a academy place in the next year or two anyway

If we don't make a signing at SH in a couple of years we will just have Cooney and McGrath which is fine since I have hope for the both of them to come through. That said we should be looking at someone to enter the academy (either for 2013/2014 or 2014/2015) so that someone with a bit of development will be coming through as 3rd choice when Reddan/Boss retire.

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