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The Academies

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List of every player currently in one of the four Irish academies.

Loosehead Ed Byrne
Loosehead Jack O'Connell
Loosehead Kyle McCall
Loosehead Finlay Bealham
Loosehead James Cronin
Loosehead/Hooker James Treacy
Hooker Niall Scannell
Hooker Brian Byrne
Hooker David Doyle
Hooker Jonny Murphy
Hooker Kevin O'Byrne
Hooker Duncan Casey
Hooker James Rael
Tighthead Martin Moore
Tighthead Tadhg Furlong
Tighthead Conor Carey
Tighthead Jake Caulfield
Tighthead Jamie Dever
Tighthead Peter Reilly
Lock Cathal O'Flaherty
Lock Tadhg Beirne
Lock Gavin Thornbury
Lock Alan O'Connor
Lock James Simpson
Lock Daniel Qualter
Lock Ultan Dilane
Lock Philip Donnellan
Lock Brian Hayes
Flanker/Lock Ben Marshall
Flanker Dan Leavy
Flanker Conor Gilsenan
Flanker Josh Van Der Flier
Flanker Jordi Murphy
Flanker Conor Joyce
Flanker Neil Faloon
Flanker Aaron Conneely
Flanker David Heffernan
Flanker Jonathan Gardiner
Flanker Shane Buckley
Flanker Ryan Murphy
Eight Jack Conan
Eight Sean O'Connell
Eight Jack O'Donoghue
Scrum Half Luke McGrath
Scrum Half Marcus Walsh
Scrum Half Kieran Marmion(may have signed a non academy contract recently)
Scrum Half Brian Haugh
Outhalf Cathal Marsh
Outhalf Noel Reid
Outhalf Stuart Olding
Outhalf Jack Carty
Outhalf Tadgh Leader
Outhalf Johnny Holland
Centre Cian Bohane
Centre Jordan Coughlan
Centre Colm O'Shea
Centre Chris Farrell
Centre Corey Hircock
Centre Harry McNulty
Centre/Fullback Robbie Henshaw(may have signed a non academy contract recently)
Wing Andrew Boyle
Wing Sam Coughlan Murray
Wing Conor Finn
Wing Steve Macauley
Wing Ronan O'Mahony
Wing/Fullback Darren Hudson
Wing/Fullback Darren Moroney
Fullback Mikey Sherlock*(not sure about his status)
Fullback Rory Scholes
Fullback Peter Nelson
Fullback Ricky Andrew
Fullback Shane Layden
Fullback Darragh Leader
Fullback Darren Sweetnam

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.ak

Tox56 wrote: »

1982

Nuh-uh, as the posters above said it's clearly 2012.

Tox56

schools rugby wrote: »

When did he leave school?

1982

Hagz

schools rugby wrote: »

When did he leave school?

2011.

Creeby

schools rugby wrote: »

When did he leave school?

2011.

opinionatedfan

schools rugby wrote: »

When did he leave school?

2011.

FellasFellas

schools rugby wrote: »

When did he leave school?

2011.

schools rugby

opinionatedfan wrote: »

Crosbie is a schools product.

When did he leave school?

opinionatedfan

schools rugby wrote: »

Dardis and Molony are the only two schools ?

Crosbie is a schools product.

schools rugby

opinionatedfan wrote: »

no need to apologize, the confusion caused by Molony/Moloney is frequent.

good news on SCM, he missed a lot of time with that illness.

3 schools products and 3 youths products.

Peter Dooley(LH Prop/Youth-Offaly)
Ross Molony(Lock/St.Michaels-Dublin)
Steve Crosbie(Outhalf/St.Gerrards-Dublin)
Tom Daly(Centre/Youth-Carlow)
Adam Byrne(Wing/Youth-Kildare)
Billy Dardis(Fullback/Terenure-Kildare)

Dardis and Molony are the only two schools ?

CGD

shuffol wrote: »

Would Moloneys absence be due to there already been a number of backrows, specifically opensides already in the academy, you'd imagine other provinces would be looking at him.

Yeah plenty of very good proven backrows in Leinster at the moment. If he develops well next season he is likely to get in next year when contract situation with other backrows will be more clear

opinionatedfan

shuffol wrote: »

Would Moloneys absence be due to there already been a number of backrows, specifically opensides already in the academy, you'd imagine other provinces would be looking at him.

yeah, seems like the most obvious thing to me. Very talented kid but we have tons of backrows in the academy and he is still pretty young.

Maybe a year in the sub-academy and then in. Depends where he ends up going to college.

shuffol

Would Moloneys absence be due to there already been a number of backrows, specifically opensides already in the academy, you'd imagine other provinces would be looking at him.

opinionatedfan

5 youth products in total in the academy.

10 players from Dublin(Boyle(21), Coghlan(20), Crosbie(20), Doyle(22), Leavy(18), Marsh(20), McGrath(19), Molony(18), O'Shea(22), Thornbury(19))
5 players from Kildare(Beirne(20), Byrne(18), Dardis(17-18), SCM(21), Tracy(22))
3 players from Carlow(Byrne(19), Byrne(19), Daly(19))
2 players from Wicklow(Conan(20), JVDF(19))
1 player from Wexford(Furlong(20))
1 player from Offaly(Dooley(18))
1 player from Westmeath(Gilsenan(20))

Tox56

ormond lad wrote: »

Good to see 3 youths players join the Leinster academy. With the work being put into the youths system that number will only keep on going up
Usually is end of May/June before Munster announce their academy. Will be interesting to see how many Munster add considering there is only 3 in final year this season

Leinster U18 clubs team looked good this year too, maybe more to come

ormond lad

Good to see 3 youths players join the Leinster academy. With the work being put into the youths system that number will only keep on going up
Usually is end of May/June before Munster announce their academy. Will be interesting to see how many Munster add considering there is only 3 in final year this season

FellasFellas

opinionatedfan wrote: »

Leinster Academy next year:

LH Prop
James Tracy(3)
Ed Byrne(2)
Peter Dooley(1)
Hooker
David Doyle(3)
Bryan Byrne(2)
TH Prop
Tadhg Furlong(3)
Second row
Tadhg Beirne(2)
Gavin Thornbury(2)
Ross Molony(1)
Backrow
Conor Gilsenan(3)
Dan Leavy(2)
Josh Van Der Flier(2)
Jack Conan(2)
Scrumhalf
Luke McGrath(3)
Outhalf
Cathal Marsh(2)
Steve Crosbie(1)
Centre
Jordan Coghlan(3)
Colm O'Shea(3)
Tom Daly(1)
Back Three
Sam Coghlan-Murray(3)
Andrew Boyle(3)
Adam Byrne(1)
Billy Dardis(1)

Looks like we'll be needing a scrumhalf fairly soon.

opinionatedfan

Leinster Academy next year:

LH Prop
James Tracy(3)
Ed Byrne(2)
Peter Dooley(1)
Hooker
David Doyle(3)
Bryan Byrne(2)
TH Prop
Tadhg Furlong(3)
Second row
Tadhg Beirne(2)
Gavin Thornbury(2)
Ross Molony(1)
Backrow
Conor Gilsenan(3)
Dan Leavy(2)
Josh Van Der Flier(2)
Jack Conan(2)
Scrumhalf
Luke McGrath(3)
Outhalf
Cathal Marsh(2)
Steve Crosbie(1)
Centre
Jordan Coghlan(3)
Colm O'Shea(3)
Tom Daly(1)
Back Three
Sam Coghlan-Murray(3)
Andrew Boyle(3)
Adam Byrne(1)
Billy Dardis(1)

irishbucsfan

Yeah Conway was in the academy I'm pretty sure.

Only two I know to skip in recent years in Ireland were Fitygerald and Butler.

Hype710

lurtz wrote: »

not really,last year thornbury,leavy and bryan and ed byrne all went in straight. Luke mcgrath the year before that. Andrew conway skipped the academy entirely and went straight into the senior squad

Conway had a year in the academy before signing a full contract. Luke Fitzgerald was the last to skip the academy.

Liveforrugby

jamiedav2011 wrote: »

In that case, is there any reason why Cian Kelleher/Brewer/Ringrose etc didn't make it? Just players at different physical levels? Brewer is finished this June isn't he?

brewer kelleher overated, ringrose is just an average joe who can kick, hasn't played representative yet. Anyone know how he got along at the trials?

Moloney the roscrea 7 should have got a contract

lurtz

jamiedav2011 wrote: »

In that case, is there any reason why Cian Kelleher/Brewer/Ringrose etc didn't make it? Just players at different physical levels? Brewer is finished this June isn't he?

I suppose it wasnt felt that they were good enough yet,that a year or two in the sub academy structure might be more beneficial. The academy players are decided by Joe Schmidt,colllie mcentee and girvan dempsey.

Tox56

jamiedav2011 wrote: »

In that case, is there any reason why Cian Kelleher didn't make it? Just players at different physical levels?

Mentioned it before but not convinced by him at all. Good physical specimen but not the best rugby brain and not one for passing. Even in good games at school level you can see his limitations, can't see him being physically exceptional enough to make up for them past school

opinionatedfan

jamiedav2011 wrote: »

In that case, is there any reason why Cian Kelleher/Brewer/Ringrose etc didn't make it? Just players at different physical levels? Brewer is finished this June isn't he?

Don't think Kelleher or Ringrose are good enough, Brewer is interesting case.

Probably destined for the sub-academy and see if he sticks at 12 or 8.

jamiedav2011

Tox56 wrote: »

Several did last year, the best usually do. Leavy, McGrath, Conway, Macken all have in recent years, pretty sure Heaslip and Kearney did too. Leavy in particular was very young

In that case, is there any reason why Cian Kelleher/Brewer/Ringrose etc didn't make it? Just players at different physical levels? Brewer is finished this June isn't he?

lurtz

jamiedav2011 wrote: »

Also, is it unusual for Dardis to go straight from school into academy, or based on age more so?

not really,last year thornbury,leavy and bryan and ed byrne all went in straight. Luke mcgrath the year before that. Andrew conway skipped the academy entirely and went straight into the senior squad

opinionatedfan

This year there was:

1 under 18: Dardis
3 under 19: Dooley, Molony, Byrne
2 under 20: Crosbie, Daly

Contrast to last year:
1 under 18: Leavy
4 under 19: Thornbury, Byrne, Byrne, Van Der Flier
3 under 20: Beirne, Conan, Marsh

opinionatedfan

Quint2010 wrote: »

Is Gerrards not in Wicklow no? Brilliant for Dardis-the only u18 there. Hope he lives up to his potential. Byrne is an outstanding prospect too.

Gerrard's is outside Bray just across the Dublin border with Wicklow, but Crosbie is from Leopardstown.

Tox56

jamiedav2011 wrote: »

Also, is it unusual for Dardis to go straight from school into academy, or based on age more so?

Several did last year, the best usually do. Leavy, McGrath, Conway, Macken all have in recent years, pretty sure Heaslip and Kearney did too. Leavy in particular was very young

opinionatedfan

jamiedav2011 wrote: »

Also, is it unusual for Dardis to go straight from school into academy, or based on age more so?

Not that unusual, Leavy went straight from under 18 schools to academy last year and Luke McGrath the year before.

Also last year Thornbury and the Byrne twins went from under 19 schools to academy last year.

Its a lot more rare for a player who has two years eligibility at under 20 level to go straight into the academy(McGrath, Leavy, Dardis) than a player who only has one(Thornbury,Byrne twins)

Quint2010

opinionatedfan wrote: »

no need to apologize, the confusion caused by Molony/Moloney is frequent.

good news on SCM, he missed a lot of time with that illness.

3 schools products and 3 youths products.

Peter Dooley(LH Prop/Youth-Offaly)
Ross Molony(Lock/St.Michaels-Dublin)
Steve Crosbie(Outhalf/St.Gerrards-Dublin)
Tom Daly(Centre/Youth-Carlow)
Adam Byrne(Wing/Youth-Kildare)
Billy Dardis(Fullback/Terenure-Kildare)

Is Gerrards not in Wicklow no? Brilliant for Dardis-the only u18 there. Hope he lives up to his potential. Byrne is an outstanding prospect too.