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    #422
    Tox56
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    ormond lad wrote: »
    Good to see 3 youths players join the Leinster academy. With the work being put into the youths system that number will only keep on going up
    Usually is end of May/June before Munster announce their academy. Will be interesting to see how many Munster add considering there is only 3 in final year this season

    Leinster U18 clubs team looked good this year too, maybe more to come


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    #423
    opinionatedfan
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    5 youth products in total in the academy.

    10 players from Dublin(Boyle(21), Coghlan(20), Crosbie(20), Doyle(22), Leavy(18), Marsh(20), McGrath(19), Molony(18), O'Shea(22), Thornbury(19))
    5 players from Kildare(Beirne(20), Byrne(18), Dardis(17-18), SCM(21), Tracy(22))
    3 players from Carlow(Byrne(19), Byrne(19), Daly(19))
    2 players from Wicklow(Conan(20), JVDF(19))
    1 player from Wexford(Furlong(20))
    1 player from Offaly(Dooley(18))
    1 player from Westmeath(Gilsenan(20))


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    #424
    shuffol
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    Would Moloneys absence be due to there already been a number of backrows, specifically opensides already in the academy, you'd imagine other provinces would be looking at him.


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    #425
    opinionatedfan
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    shuffol wrote: »
    Would Moloneys absence be due to there already been a number of backrows, specifically opensides already in the academy, you'd imagine other provinces would be looking at him.

    yeah, seems like the most obvious thing to me. Very talented kid but we have tons of backrows in the academy and he is still pretty young.

    Maybe a year in the sub-academy and then in. Depends where he ends up going to college.


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    #426
    CGD
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    shuffol wrote: »
    Would Moloneys absence be due to there already been a number of backrows, specifically opensides already in the academy, you'd imagine other provinces would be looking at him.

    Yeah plenty of very good proven backrows in Leinster at the moment. If he develops well next season he is likely to get in next year when contract situation with other backrows will be more clear


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    #427
    schools rugby
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    opinionatedfan wrote: »
    no need to apologize, the confusion caused by Molony/Moloney is frequent.

    good news on SCM, he missed a lot of time with that illness.

    3 schools products and 3 youths products.

    Peter Dooley(LH Prop/Youth-Offaly)
    Ross Molony(Lock/St.Michaels-Dublin)
    Steve Crosbie(Outhalf/St.Gerrards-Dublin)
    Tom Daly(Centre/Youth-Carlow)
    Adam Byrne(Wing/Youth-Kildare)
    Billy Dardis(Fullback/Terenure-Kildare)

    Dardis and Molony are the only two schools ?


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    #428
    opinionatedfan
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    schools rugby wrote: »
    Dardis and Molony are the only two schools ?

    Crosbie is a schools product.


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    #429
    schools rugby
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    opinionatedfan wrote: »
    Crosbie is a schools product.

    When did he leave school?


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    #430
    FellasFellas
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    schools rugby wrote: »
    When did he leave school?

    2011.


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    #431
    opinionatedfan
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    schools rugby wrote: »
    When did he leave school?

    2011.


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    #432
    Creeby
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    schools rugby wrote: »
    When did he leave school?

    2011.


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    #433
    Hagz
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    schools rugby wrote: »
    When did he leave school?

    2011.


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    #434
    Tox56
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    schools rugby wrote: »
    When did he leave school?

    1982


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    #435
    .ak
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    Tox56 wrote: »
    1982

    Nuh-uh, as the posters above said it's clearly 2012.


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    #436
    ormond lad
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    Dolphin RFC tweeted a few hours ago that Darren O Shea and John Madigan have been added to Munster academy


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    #437
    opinionatedfan
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    ormond lad wrote: »
    Dolphin RFC tweeted a few hours ago that Darren O Shea and John Madigan have been added to Munster academy

    both are second rows right?

    Madigan being under-20 next year, not sure about O'Shea.


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    #438
    ormond lad
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    opinionatedfan wrote: »
    both are second rows right?

    Madigan being under-20 next year, not sure about O'Shea.
    Yes both are second rows. O Shea is same age group as JJ Hanrahan. ie 92


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    #439
    opinionatedfan
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    ormond lad wrote: »
    Yes both are second rows. O Shea is same age group as JJ Hanrahan. ie 92

    Pretty old to be going into the academy, what's his story?

    Obviously second rows develop later so it's not necessarily a bad thing.


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    #440
    shuffol
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    Munster like their 2nd rows, that'll be 4 in the academy next year. There's 3 in there atm but think Hayes is in his final year.


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    #441
    ormond lad
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    opinionatedfan wrote: »
    Pretty old to be going into the academy, what's his story?

    Obviously second rows develop later so it's not necessarily a bad thing.
    Not that old. Philly Donnellan from Nenagh was 23 at end of last season when he joined the academy.
    No idea what Darren o Shea's story is. He played underage for various munster sides. just kept on playing AIL after school. He is from Crosshaven origianlly and played youths with them before going into dolphin when in college i imagine


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    #442
    opinionatedfan
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    thanks, would be pretty surprising if Sean McCarthy didn't make the academy aswell right?

    Also what height would you put either O'Shea or Madigan at?


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    #443
    backgreen
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    opinionatedfan wrote: »
    thanks, would be pretty surprising if Sean McCarthy didn't make the academy aswell right?

    Also what height would you put either O'Shea or Madigan at?[/QUOTE
    McCarthy is about 6' 4'' have't seen madigan for a few years


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    #444
    opinionatedfan
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    backgreen wrote: »
    opinionatedfan wrote: »
    thanks, would be pretty surprising if Sean McCarthy didn't make the academy aswell right?

    Also what height would you put either O'Shea or Madigan at?
    McCarthy is about 6' 4'' have't seen madigan for a few years

    McCarthy is listed at 6'6 here.

    http://www.irishrugby.ie/squads/ireland_u20.php?player=110511&includeref=dynamic


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    #445
    lurtz
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    Madigan is very tall these days I hear,6'6 or so


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    #446
    Stanza2
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    Madigan is about 6'7" a great talent, was an Irish youth player last year. He has a great future in the game.


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    #447
    backgreen
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    opinionatedfan wrote: »
    McCarthy is listed at 6'6 here.

    http://www.irishrugby.ie/squads/ireland_u20.php?player=110511&includeref=dynamic
    maybe on his tip/toes


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    #448
    backgreen
    Registered Users Posts: 245 ✭✭backgreen


    niall horan also in academy


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    #449
    opinionatedfan
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    backgreen wrote: »
    niall horan also in academy

    niall-horan-11-460x460.jpg

    new outside centre?


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    #450
    BallHandling Hooker
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    FellasFellas wrote: »
    Looks like we'll be needing a scrumhalf fairly soon.

    There doesn't "need" to be a -player in each position.

    I assume someone like Charlie Rock or the Ireland 18s captain Nick McCarthy will get a academy place in the next year or two anyway


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    #451
    CIARAN_BOYLE
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    BallHandling Hooker wrote: »
    There doesn't "need" to be a -player in each position.

    I assume someone like Charlie Rock or the Ireland 18s captain Nick McCarthy will get a academy place in the next year or two anyway
    If we don't make a signing at SH in a couple of years we will just have Cooney and McGrath which is fine since I have hope for the both of them to come through. That said we should be looking at someone to enter the academy (either for 2013/2014 or 2014/2015) so that someone with a bit of development will be coming through as 3rd choice when Reddan/Boss retire.


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