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Maggie Thatcher dead - Mega merge thread

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  • #212
    Frankie Lee
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,277 ✭✭✭Frankie Lee


    http://www.newstatesman.com/node/137397

    Her support of Pol Pot was her worse crime, Pinochet and Jimmy Savile were peanuts in comparison.


  • #213
    Celly Smunt
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,463 ✭✭✭Celly Smunt


    Dotsey wrote: »
    no chance of that in a city like Manchester or Liverpool, there would be as much hatred there as you would find in Belfast West

    I was thinking more...


  • #214
    Thrill
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,485 ✭✭✭Thrill


    Baroness Thatcher will receive a ceremonial funeral with military honours at St Paul's Cathedral


  • #215
    dark crystal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,962 ✭✭✭✭dark crystal


    April O Neill wrote: »
    She was working-class, or maybe lower-middle herself. She got into Oxbridge on a scholarship. If anything, she represents meritocracy and social mobility.

    My parents moved to from Ireland to England when I was very young and always praised Thatcher for bringing in the legislation which allowed them to buy their council house. They worked hard and achieved the success in the UK they couldn't have achieved over here at the time.


  • #216
    TheLastMohican
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    guttenberg wrote: »
    Sorry for her family, but I can't imagine history being too kind on her life. I can imagine all the miners lining up to dig her grave for free!

    Up until recently both Mark and Carol seldom visited her. And she became an embarrassment to the Tory grandees. Spewing self righteous bilge.


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  • #217
    ilovesleep
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,619 ✭✭✭ilovesleep


    Trine wrote: »
    Rubbish. You don't need to have lived through the reign of somebody like Maggy Thatcher to be able to appreciate the hatred she generated for herself, as is the case with many leaders through history that none of us were alive to witness first hand.

    You also don't need to have been alive during her rule to have a valid opinion on her.

    The uk was in the pits financially in the 70s and they needed help from the imf and Maggie came in and introduced measures to help out.


  • #218
    Fratton Fred
    Closed Accounts Posts: 26,567 ✭✭✭✭Fratton Fred


    Duggys Housemate wrote: »
    A proper non class war reaction would be to modernise them. Britain still has huge reserves of coal.

    Reforming the coal industry had been tried many times, it had been brought down a labour government.

    The NUM resisted any and all attempts at modernisation and the only way to take them on was head to head.

    You could argue the cuts went too far, but no one is rushing to reopen the pits that closed,


  • #219
    April O Neill
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,305 ✭✭✭April O Neill


    Anynama141 wrote: »
    She did pull the UK out of what looked like a death spiral - which is not to say that her policies were easy or popular. I don't think people realise what a disaster that place had become by the 70s. The IMF had to bail them out in '76.

    Exactly.


  • #220
    Lollipops23
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,420 ✭✭✭Lollipops23


    Don't forget she also refused to waive the VAT on Band Aid's "Do They Know It's Xmas" until she was shamed into it.


  • #221
    P_1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,681 ✭✭✭✭P_1


    Will be interesting to see what if any media coverage will be given to the celebrations that are more than likely to break out in the North of England over the next few days


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  • #222
    Anynama141
    Closed Accounts Posts: 964 ✭✭✭Anynama141


    TheLastMohican wrote: »
    Up until recently both Mark and Carol seldom visited her. And she became an embarrassment to the Tory grandees. Spewing self righteous bilge.
    She had Alzheimer's disease. It's not associated with clear thinking.


  • #223
    TheLastMohican
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,837 ✭✭✭TheLastMohican


    dark crystal wrote: »
    My parents moved to from Ireland to England when I was very young and always praised Thatcher for bringing in the legislation which allowed them to buy their council house. They worked hard and achieved the success in the UK they couldn't have achieved over here at the time.

    By doing this, she bought the votes of these former Council House tenants. She bought the votes with tax payers money.


  • #224
    kingtiger
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    ilovesleep wrote: »
    What we need is someone like Maggie Thatcher here in this country. She would introduce a lot of changes and no doubt many won't like the changes but one thing is that the changes would be fair. Or as fair as possible. The deficit would close dramatically with her in power.

    What we see here in Ireland is a power and a politicial class, leeching off the rest of the country, keeping themselves safe and stable, while they dish out austerity for the rest of us, while they dish out patronising bullsh1t like 'well 82% of country can afford a sky package, so ye can clearly pay up more in taxes'.

    RIP Maggie

    lol

    do you know anything about Thatcher?

    she basically bloody sold the country to her rich and powerful mates, her policy's led to the housing bubble crash of the late 80ies in the UK leading to a depression, sound familiar?


  • #225
    GRMA
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,417 ✭✭✭GRMA


    32 years exactly today since Bobby Sands got elected.

    "Our revenge will be the laughter of our children"

    We're having a good laugh now


  • #226
    April O Neill
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    I feel a bit sad strangely. It's the end of an era.


  • #227
    My name is URL
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,389 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    Benny_Cake wrote: »
    I disagree with just about everything that she stood for and I'm not going to start praising her now. But it's a little sad,pathetic even, to see people celebrating the death of an elderly woman who hasn't held a position of power for nearly 23 years.

    It's not really surprising though... I can hardly think of another politician who generated such polarised views.

    I agree with you about the celebration of her (or any) death though.. it just seems childish and ill-considered.


  • #228
    Pudders
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 822 ✭✭✭Pudders


    Anynama141 wrote: »
    She had Alzheimer's disease. It's not associated with clear thinking.

    Neither is supporting dictators.


  • #229
    Anynama141
    Closed Accounts Posts: 964 ✭✭✭Anynama141


    GRMA wrote: »
    32 years exactly today since Bobby Sands got elected.

    "Our revenge will be the laughter of our children"

    We're having a good laugh now
    Northern Ireland is still part of the UK. Laugh on.


  • #230
    artanevilla
    Moderators, Education Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 11,509 Mod ✭✭✭✭artanevilla


    Champagne! Champagne for everyone!


  • #231
    rainbowdash
    Closed Accounts Posts: 878 ✭✭✭rainbowdash


    I think people are being a bit harsh on her, her greatest achievement was her contribution to inventing whipped ice cream, which is what I will remember her for.


    One important development in the 20th century was the introduction of soft ice cream (like Mr Whippy uses!). A chemical research team in Britain (of which a young Margaret Thatcher was a member) discovered a method of doubling the amount of air in ice cream, which allowed manufacturers to use less of the actual ingredients, thereby reducing costs. This ice cream was also very popular amongst consumers who preferred the lighter texture, and most major ice cream brands now use this manufacturing process. It also made possible the soft ice cream machine in which a cone is filled beneath a spigot on order.


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  • #232
    Sergeant
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    Lollipops23 wrote: »
    Don't forget she also refused to waive the VAT on Band Aid's "Do They Know It's Xmas" until she was shamed into it.

    And she shouldn't have. The whole thing was an exercise in self-righteousness by washed-up 80's rock stars. It made about 1% of fúck all difference to Africa, but ensured we've had to deal with Bob Geldof speaking out his nose for the next 30 years.


  • #233
    I Heart Internet
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,678 ✭✭✭I Heart Internet


    Some disgusting comments about another human being to be found on this thread.

    (as well as some very fair criticism of her)


  • #234
    Anynama141
    Closed Accounts Posts: 964 ✭✭✭Anynama141


    Pudders wrote: »
    Neither is supporting dictators.
    Do you think Bill Clinton didn't support any dictators?

    Do you think people will be speaking like this about him when he dies?


  • #235
    awec
    Administrators Posts: 55,189 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec


    GRMA wrote: »
    32 years exactly today since Bobby Sands got elected.

    "Our revenge will be the laughter of our children"

    We're having a good laugh now
    Hypocrite. :)


  • #236
    Burky126
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 476 ✭✭Burky126


    Thought this might be relevant folks....

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056881733


  • #237
    thecommietommy
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 564 ✭✭✭thecommietommy


    Fratton Fred wrote: »
    I dont lol at opinions, only that comments like the witch is dead are just juvenile band wagon jumping statements.

    The typical after hours poster is very quick to jump on the trade unions when they hold the country to ransom, yet here we have the death of a woman who took on the trade unions (who were ten times more militant than in Ireland today) and brought them back in to the realms of reasonableness.

    I remember the hardship her policies brought on people and her stance over issues like south Africa etc and will never look on her with fondness, but I also remember having a stock of candles for when the power stations ran out of coal.

    She did a lot of very difficult things at a time when they needed to be done. That will always be her legacy.
    Ah yes the great Thatcher who fearlessly sent out the Royal Marines to retake the little craggy islands in the south Atlantic and let's ignore her murdering 323 people on the Belgrano in the process, what a hero. No sending out the Royal Marines to take on the US Marines a year later when America invaded Grenada though :D;)


  • #238
    GRMA
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,417 ✭✭✭GRMA


    awec wrote: »
    Hypocrite. :)
    Go book your flights to the funeral and order some tissues, the likes of you will be weeping no doubt


  • #239
    enda1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,165 ✭✭✭enda1


    A fantastic leader for the UK and brought the country kicking and screaming into the 20th century.
    Ironically had more balls than any of her peers of the time too.


  • #240
    Madam_X
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    Sergeant wrote: »
    Pinochet gets bandied about as a name, but I suppose South American dictators are only the subject of criticism if they were right-wing.
    He was responsible for horrific atrocities. Whether there is more of a focus on right-wing South American dictators than left-wing, doesn't change that.


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  • #241
    Sergeant
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,362 ✭✭✭Sergeant


    thecommietommy wrote: »
    Ah yes the great Thatcher who fearlessly sent out the Royal Marines to retake the little craggy islands in the south Atlantic and let's ignore her murdering 323 people on the Belgrano in the process, what a hero. No sending out the Royal Marines to take on the US Marines a year later when America invaded Grenada though :D;)

    Maggie Thatcher murdered 323 people? Here was me thinking the Belgrano was sunk during an act of War when the Argies invaded a British overseas territory.

    :eek:


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