Maggie Thatcher dead - Mega merge thread

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Not a lot to add. Today's news made me happy. The news usually pisses me off. Today's news didn't. I'll leave it at that.

Duggys Housemate

ilovesleep wrote: »

The English people didn't agree with that and they protested the poll tax. They were listened to and it was replaced with a council tax which people believed was fairer and it survived. That's fair.

Ireland is doing the same with a property tax which is claiming to go towards local services. There are many valid arguements against this. What services exactly? Call out a fire brigade and you need to pay 500 euro an hour for them to put out a fire.

Maggie was fair.

The council tax, like the Irish tax, is "fair" because it is value based. The poll tax wasn't. It's also a lot more expensive. I paid 1200 last year in a rental. And it doesn't tax the rich as the highest bands start at about 500k - millionaire properties are subsidised. Lastly it was replaced after massive social unrest.

GRMA

ch750536 wrote: »

Get me a new pissing spot next time I'm over.

Getting cheated, she's getting cremated

Anynama141

iDave wrote: »

People can point to all the reforms all they want but doesnt change the fact she had blood on her hands.

What wartime leader does not?

thecommietommy

Anynama141 wrote: »

If they are running NI, why isn't Ireland reunited? As I understand it, the NI is still in the UK.

Occupied counties which is more and more greening, death by a thousand cuts

Peter Robinson has acknowledged that he could be Northern Ireland's last unionist first minister. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-15803536

ilovesleep

ilovesleep wrote: »

Must admit I don't know much about her but apparently she did do good for the uk.

She was like any other, really. She had some good and bad luck. Her economic reforms may have been a disaster at the beginning of her leadership had the North Sea oil and gas boom not taken off. She's probably best remember for her performance as a Cold War heavyweight, and the concept of 'handbagging'.

keano_afc

Problems with the hashtag #nowthatchersdead.

Cher is fine, as far as I know.

uncle_sam_ie

We sure could use her now. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5TPpuIslzG4
Rest in peace.

Gift of the Gabbert

About time.

Anynama141

thecommietommy wrote: »

Occupied counties which is more and more greening, death by a thousand cuts

Peter Robinson has acknowledged that he could be Northern Ireland's last unionist first minister. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-15803536

Due to demographic change?

It's almost like the terrorist campaigns by the Loyalists and Republicans was just a waste of thousands of lives.

darced

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thecommietommy

Sergeant wrote: »

Maggie Thatcher murdered 323 people? Here was me thinking the Belgrano was sunk during an act of War when the Argies invaded a British overseas territory.

:eek:

But when the Brits invade anywhere it's called, errrr, ehmmm, " bringing peace to the natives !!!!! " Tell you what, I'll support the Brits against Argentina when Argentina invade the Channel Islands ok

Hoop66

Well, I always said I would pour a bottle of good whisky on her grave.

I'll pass it through my kidneys first, mind.

ilovesleep

Rojomcdojo wrote: »

She was like any other, really. She had some good and bad luck. Her economic reforms may have been a disaster at the beginning of her leadership had the North Sea oil and gas boom not taken off. She's probably best remember for her performance as a Cold War heavyweight, and the concept of 'handbagging'.

I read that as teabagging.

Dyr

Anyone going a pint after work?

Rented Mule

Anynama141 wrote: »

Do you think Bill Clinton didn't support any dictators?

Do you think people will be speaking like this about him when he dies?

They'll be talking about Monica Lewinsky.

Aidric

The number of dribblers on this thread must be approaching record numbers.

Anynama141

Rented Mule wrote: »

They'll be talking about Monica Lewinsky.

Yeah. They are hypocrites.

anncoates

One thing most people forget in the summation of her career was also the war she waged on football supporters in England: whether it was to criminalize match-going fans or ignoring the true facts concerning Hillsborough.

Dyr

summerskin wrote: »

Shame Gerry Adams can't join her today.

Cheer up, He might go to the funeral

Anynama141

Aidric wrote: »

The number of dribblers on this thread must be approaching record numbers.

An awful lot of internet hard men celebrating the death of an old sick woman and planning to p!ss on her grave. It warms the heart, it does.

Iwasfrozen

darced wrote: »

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See this right here is what I don't understand. Another human being has died and you come out with comments like this? If you don't like the woman fine but at the very least have respect for her family.

thecommietommy

Anynama141 wrote: »

Due to demographic change?

It's almost like the terrorist campaigns by the Loyalists and Republicans was just a waste of thousands of lives.

Forgetting that your British friends were invovled in a fair bit of their own terrorism during the troubles. Indeed the loyalists were but their unoffical murder gangs, something which didn't bother of course the great Snatcher.

summerskin

Bambi wrote: »

Cheer up, He might go to the funeral

wonder if any of the riflemen would be cross-eyed?

Anynama141

anncoates wrote: »

One thing most people forget in the summation of her career was also the war she waged on football supporters in England: whether it was to criminalize match-going fans or ignoring the true facts concerning Hillsborough.

Context is probably an issue here too - remember that football hooliganism was absolutely killing football in the 70s and 80s. The problem was more or less fixed by the 90s.

wonderfullife

This was a democratically elected leader with a mandate serving the interests of her nation as she saw fit. Her mandate was not to tip-toe around Argentina, Ireland and anyone else she pissed off. She may have been a divisive figure in her own country but it's worth remembering she was re-elected twice and served 3 terms as Prime Minister.

On an Irish level if we can welcome the Queen to Dublin, given there is no higher representation of Britishness, then surely the vitriol and hate towards Maggie is of another age.

We've moved on. This woman has now moved on. Surely anybody harbouring resentment can best show that by indifference to her passing. She's dead, may she rest in peace.

summerskin

Iwasfrozen wrote: »

See this right here is what I don't understand. Another human being has died and you come out with comments like this? If you don't like the woman fine but at the very least have respect for her family.

you mean the son who tried to part of an illegal military coup in Africa? or the attention seeking daughter who was on i'm a Celeb?


sorry, no respect for either of them.

kingtiger

summerskin wrote: »

Shame Gerry Adams can't join her today.

stupid comment

Anynama141

thecommietommy wrote: »

Forgetting that your British friends were invovled in a fair bit of their own terrorism during the troubles. Indeed the loyalists were but their unoffical murder gangs, something which didn't bother of course the great Snatcher.

Hey, it was a WAR!! Let it go man, you need to live in the present.

Although I don't think that any of my British friends were involved in terrorism, come to think of it.

Thrill

Sinn Féin's Gerry Adams: "Margaret Thatcher did great hurt to the Irish and British people during her time as British Prime Minister."

RTE

Probably as close as he can come to a RIP for her.