Formula 1 2013: General Discussion Thread

Daniel S · 30-03-2013 12:52pm

If Ferrari back Massa while he's ahead of Alonso, I'll have a lot more respect for them. Fair play for keeping him last year though, most people doubted if he'd ever regain his form (myself included).

the culture of deference · 30-03-2013 2:43pm

how did Alonso end up so far ahead of felipe in Oz.

Also Massa doesn't seem to have any airs or graces, he just quietly gets on with it. He has shown massive mental strength.

Myrddin · 30-03-2013 4:41pm

mickdw wrote: »

Last race of the year, massa driving for the championship comes up behind Alonso. Alonso gets the message.......

Felipe is faster than you!

Justice.

Thats not outside the realms of possibility, the team will support whoever has the best chance of winning. Its up to Massa at this stage, but so far he has been fantastic. He's done remarkably well to get out of the rut he was stuck in

Jordan 199 · 30-03-2013 4:55pm

The thing about Felipe is that he's continuing on the form from the second half of last season. He was superb in Brazil last year and has had a great start to the season so far. Onwards and upwards for Felipe

Jordan 199 · 30-03-2013 7:39pm

Going retro here. Anyone remember Ricardo Zonta's huge smash at Spa in '99?

Clip of the crash here.

mickdw · 30-03-2013 8:26pm

Jordan 191 wrote: »

The thing about Felipe is that he's continuing on the form from the second half of last season. He was superb in Brazil last year and has had a great start to the season so far. Onwards and upwards for Felipe

Yes and in an interview with sky, when asked about his great start, he was very quick to point out that he is on a good run since end of last season. Id say its certainly down to sports psychologist and he now has the belief back. Very quick guy.

smellslikeshoes · 30-03-2013 8:58pm

Jordan 191 wrote: »

Going retro here. Anyone remember Ricardo Zonta's huge smash at Spa in '99?

I remember this well, Jacques Villeneuve and Zonta had dared eachother to take it flat out. Zonta's accident was only a few minutes after the session got restarted following Villenueve's attempt which was a pretty heavy shunt in it's own right.

Wonder what would the reaction to a something like this coming to light nowadays would be. Think Villeneuve also went into a wall with a car failure on the Friday, even in the days of the teams having a spare car there must have been some tired mechanics that weekend.

ottostreet · 30-03-2013 10:39pm

Poor old Ricardo Zonta never really got a fair crack did he? Huge accident in his second race in Brazil 99 that had him sit out a race IIRC.

Better than he looked IMO.

donspeekinglesh · 30-03-2013 10:58pm

Wasn't he World Sportscar champion before F1? Another decent driver who never got to show his potential in F1.

Jordan 199 · 30-03-2013 11:59pm

smellslikeshoes wrote: »

I remember this well, Jacques Villeneuve and Zonta had dared eachother to take it flat out. Zonta's accident was only a few minutes after the session got restarted following Villenueve's attempt which was a pretty heavy shunt in it's own right.

Wonder what would the reaction to a something like this coming to light nowadays would be. Think Villeneuve also went into a wall with a car failure on the Friday, even in the days of the teams having a spare car there must have been some tired mechanics that weekend.

Yeah, Jacques had a big smash there too, but I think Zonta's one was worse. Both drivers cars overturned in the crashes too.

I wonder did the wooden plank that's attached to the floor touching off the track cause the accidents.

donspeekinglesh wrote: »

Wasn't he World Sportscar champion before F1? Another decent driver who never got to show his potential in F1.

He won the FIA GT Championship in 1998 and International F3000 Championship in 1997.

counterlock · 31-03-2013 1:20am

Is my memory playing tricks on me or was he the 'third' driver at McLaren for a while?
Edit: just saw it was 98 and he turned down a seat with Jordan in 99!!!

Jordan 199 · 31-03-2013 2:39am

I remember back in '99, BAR wanted to run a different liveries on their cars. Lucky Strike on one car, and 555 on the other car. The FIA then said that both cars must have the same livery so both cars ran with a split livery with a zip running between both liveries.

counterlock · 31-03-2013 7:28am

Jordan 191 wrote: »

I remember back in '99, BAR wanted to run a different liveries on their cars. Lucky Strike on one car, and 555 on the other car. The FIA then said that both cars must have the same livery so both cars ran with a split livery with a zip running between both liveries.

Individually they were actually nice, but when they had them split (and reversed on the 2nd car) they looked awful.

Frank Bullitt · 31-03-2013 1:19pm

They had a test livery that was beautiful, ill try get it.

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Could only find at die cast model of it, but that is beautiful.

amacca · 31-03-2013 3:08pm

Gintonious wrote: »

They had a test livery that was beautiful, ill try get it.

Could only find at die cast model of it, but that is beautiful.

yup, thats nice all right....reminds me of the colour scheme on mondial motorcyles and an alternative colorscheme that came with the mv agusta f41000 motorcycles a little.

Jordan 199 · 31-03-2013 3:29pm

I found a pic of the two BAR liveries that they wanted to run in '99:

And in 2004, BAR ran with a 555 livery at the Chinese GP:

recyclebin · 31-03-2013 7:19pm

They should have allowed different liveries. Sometimes it can be very difficult to tell which driver is which. Even some of them use similar helmets like Hamilton and Rosberg at Mercedes which makes it even harder to differentiate team mates.

donspeekinglesh · 31-03-2013 7:45pm

Bernie wanted to differentiate F1 from Champcar which was at its peak at the time. Where you couldn't tell who were teammates easily.

Old Perry · 01-04-2013 3:35pm

Any body able to help out here, i have the transcripts and all but was wondering would it be possible to watch the post race press conference from the malaysian gp (where vettel apologises) online anywhere, can't seem to find it anywhere.
Thanks.

freestyla · 02-04-2013 12:34pm

Old Perry wrote: »

Any body able to help out here, i have the transcripts and all but was wondering would it be possible to watch the post race press conference from the malaysian gp (where vettel apologises) online anywhere, can't seem to find it anywhere.
Thanks.

http://www1.skysports.com/watch/video/sports/formula-1/8594272/vettel-apologises-to-webber

"Multi 21 Seb"

"I wasn't aware"

Andrew76 · 02-04-2013 4:02pm

Speaking of Multi 21, anyone see unlap's new range of t-shirts and mugs? :pac:

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Grim. · 02-04-2013 4:07pm

Andrew76 wrote: »

Speaking of Multi 21, anyone see unlap's new range of t-shirts and mugs? :pac:

love it

recyclebin · 03-04-2013 10:52am

It's a pity the three week break came straight after the Webber/Vettel incident. Tempers will probably have cooled a bit by the time China rolls around.

recyclebin · 05-04-2013 10:23pm

I wonder is there anything in the rumour of Kimi going to Red Bull next season? Dietrich Mateschitz seems to be keen on it anyway if Webber decides to leave at end of this season.

It could just be a ploy to tell Webber that the seat is there for him again next year if he plays the team game and doesn't try to get revenge on Vettel.

PopePalpatine · 05-04-2013 10:27pm

I don't think a guy with a record like Kimi's would go to Red Bull and become a #2 driver.

Rascasse · 05-04-2013 10:54pm

I still think Vettel will leave RB at the end of the season. Kimi with JEV or Bianchi would be a nice lineup at Red Bull. Kimi in particular would suit the Red Bull brand.