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Munster Magic · 01-04-2013 06:55PM

http://www.donedeal.ie/for-sale/beefcattle/4765837

Purebred Limousin heifer for sale at Premier heifer sale in Roscrea on Saturday April 27th

pakalasa · 01-04-2013 07:25PM

Munster Magic wrote: »

http://www.donedeal.ie/for-sale/beefcattle/4765837

Purebred Limousin heifer for sale at Premier heifer sale in Roscrea on Saturday April 27th

Nice heifer. Plenty of muscle anyway. Is she yours?

Munster Magic · 01-04-2013 07:34PM

Ardlea Dan heifer calf out of an Orly cow with plenty of milk. She also has Vivaldi and Nenuphar breeding.

Born 3rd of October 2012 she is a very docile, square calf with the potential to make a quality cow.

Munster Magic · 01-04-2013 07:35PM

pakalasa wrote: »

Nice heifer. Plenty of muscle anyway. Is she yours?

Thanks, she is indeed, nice heifer alright. Muscle score of 138

Munster Magic · 01-04-2013 07:51PM

An Orly cow Vicky was one of the first purebreds purchased and has gone on to breed a number of quality bulls and heifers. A square cow with plenty of milk she has an Ardlea Dan heifer calf at foot and she is scanned in calf to Haltcliffe Dancer

dar31 · 01-04-2013 08:21PM

first calf on right is a lmx, second and fourth are jersey twins, the jersey are actually a week older!!

Munster Magic · 01-04-2013 08:22PM

Wilodge Vantastic heifer out of a Malibu cow born in September 2010. Purchased in Roscrea October 2012 and served to Ampertaine Abracadabra and scanned in calf

Munster Magic · 01-04-2013 08:29PM

Tonka heifer out of a Ferry cow with Ideal 23 also in the breeding. Born on the 4th of September 2011 Gina was bought at the Premier heifer sale in Roscrea in November 2012 and has since been served to Ampertaine Abracadabra and is scanned in calf

Bizzum · 01-04-2013 08:34PM

Some lovely stock there Munster Magic.
I particularly like the ADX heifer.

pakalasa · 01-04-2013 08:54PM

Munster Magic wrote: »

Tonka heifer out of a Ferry cow with Ideal 23 also in the breeding. Born on the 4th of September 2011 Gina was bought at the Premier heifer sale in Roscrea in November 2012 and has since been served to Ampertaine Abracadabra and is scanned in calf

Nice heifer. I was there when she was sold. You bought her handy enough.

Munster Magic · 01-04-2013 09:10PM

Bizzum wrote: »

Some lovely stock there Munster Magic.
I particularly like the ADX heifer.

Thanks, have to say I prefer the Erasmus heifer myself though

pakalasa wrote: »

Nice heifer. I was there when she was sold. You bought her handy enough.

Might be handy for a lad with alot of money like yourself:p

I will admit she wasn't our first choice that day, we were actually hoping to get lot 52 who was in the same pin as this one but she was sold for €6700

Munster Magic · 01-04-2013 09:27PM

An Ideal 23 cow born in December 2005 Annette was purchased from Ardnacrusha Limousins in October 2008 and since then she has bred many prizewinning bulls and heifers. Currently she has an Elite Erasmus heifer calf at foot and last years calf, another Erasmus heifer, Meenross Hero will be selling at Roscrea Premier sale on Saturday April 27th

tismesoitis · 01-04-2013 09:33PM

class stock MM great to see a good flurry of photos on this thread keep it up!!! Do you think you'l be purchasing at the heifer prem this year?

Munster Magic · 01-04-2013 09:39PM

tismesoitis wrote: »

class stock MM great to see a good flurry of photos on this thread keep it up!!! Do you think you'l be purchasing at the heifer prem this year?

Depends if I sell my own one tbh. If I do I might buy one to replace her but if not I will keep her to breed her

tismesoitis · 01-04-2013 09:56PM

Best of luck with her anyway MM. I have an ERE bull that we plan to sell later in the year and his figures for maternal and terminal are also poor. Unfortunatly this probably will effect price because teagasc and the likes have drilled into people that sbv and these type of index's are the be all and end all!! Set your minimum price for her and try not let her go too handy cos she looks a class heifer and will make a cracking cow for someone despite an index!!

Munster Magic · 01-04-2013 10:04PM

tismesoitis wrote: »

Best of luck with her anyway MM. I have an ERE bull that we plan to sell later in the year and his figures for maternal and terminal are also poor. Unfortunatly this probably will effect price because teagasc and the likes have drilled into people that sbv and these type of index's are the be all and end all!! Set your minimum price for her and try not let her go too handy cos she looks a class heifer and will make a cracking cow for someone despite an index!!

She wont be going handy. I have no problem keeping her as she is a great heifer imo and out of a top cow

I'm not too sure about all these figures either, alot of it seems to be guesswork and bs

Will you be bringing the bull to Roscrea in October?

just do it · 01-04-2013 10:25PM

Munster Magic wrote: »

Great stock there MM. Looks like ye've an eye for quality.

I notice this lady has tail paint. Do you use it much and find it good? I've a vasectomised bull but I'm starting to think he's a bit lazy. I was thinking of putting tail paint on the cows as well (unfortunately it's not much effort as they're all still in!). Will any auld paint do?

Munster Magic · 01-04-2013 10:32PM

just do it wrote: »

Great stock there MM. Looks like ye've an eye for quality.

I notice this lady has tail paint. Do you use it much and find it good? I've a vasectomised bull but I'm starting to think he's a bit lazy. I was thinking of putting tail paint on the cows as well (unfortunately it's not much effort as they're all still in!). Will any auld paint do?

It hasn't failed us yet anyway. We get it at the local co-op, they have a choice of colours and all:D

pakalasa · 02-04-2013 07:25AM

Munster Magic wrote: »

Thanks, have to say I prefer the Erasmus heifer myself though

Might be handy for a lad with alot of money like yourself:p

I will admit she wasn't our first choice that day, we were actually hoping to get lot 52 who was in the same pin as this one but she was sold for €6700

I was only at the sale for a look and see how the different bulls were breeding etc. But I had a look through the heifers before the sale. She was one I had picked out (I had her ticked in my catalogue). She caught my eye anyway.:)

reilig · 02-04-2013 08:23AM

Munster Magic wrote: »

She wont be going handy. I have no problem keeping her as she is a great heifer imo and out of a top cow

I'm not too sure about all these figures either, alot of it seems to be guesswork and bs

Will you be bringing the bull to Roscrea in October?

I find the new figure system a lot more reliable than the old SBV system. Got an ICBF report for my cows last week which has figures for most of them. Going on calf prices and looking at any heifers that I kept, the figures were just aout spot on! Anything that had a bad figure was something that I have earmarked for getting rid of.

Have a young bull myself which has a -€14 Maternal figure and a €110 terminal figure. I was annoyed at these figures at first. He was an expensive straw (Sauvignon - before Dovea bought him) and I had to pay royalties on him too. But looking at his figures - he has had a lot of assisted calvings, heifers off him have poor milk levels. But calves off him are quite big, they put on muscle fast and they obviously kill out well. But you would only want to be using him on mature cows. The figures aren't guessed, they are from data fed back over the years. They compare prices achieved, weight gains, selling weight prices etc. etc. Every year, the figures become more reliable too!

pakalasa · 02-04-2013 08:38AM

What I noticed aswell is, certain bulls that were heavily used down through the years because they were easy calving are scoring better under the new system. Bulls like the Limousin Malibu and Charolais Pirate.
At the end of the day, it's not all about producing fine looking cattle. Profit is what counts and these new figures are reflecting just that. Nobody wants hard calving bulls or cows requiring c-sections.

ordinary farmer · 02-04-2013 12:21PM

while ye are on the topic of bulls i had a ped angus cow calf last year from the black bull bohey corporal and got a red angus calf. and calf is by far the worst weanling. on there website it said ''this bull was purchased based on progency'' 5 farms within 5 mile radius also had red angus calfs from him. not what i wanted anyway from a good ped cow.!:mad:

reilig · 02-04-2013 01:17PM

ordinary farmer wrote: »

while ye are on the topic of bulls i had a ped angus cow calf last year from the black bull bohey corporal and got a red angus calf. and calf is by far the worst weanling. on there website it said ''this bull was purchased based on progency'' 5 farms within 5 mile radius also had red angus calfs from him. not what i wanted anyway from a good ped cow.!:mad:

That bull was bred close to here. Several of the lads in our discussion group used him and weren't happy. His figures on ICBF wouldn't be too encouraging for puttinmg on a pedigree cow to me anyway:

http://herdplus.icbf.com/bull-search/view/animalId/469294116

Had him on a heifer last year and had to get vet to take him - he wasn't too big, just awkward IYKWIM. A red calf too. Have the calf still nad he is pretty shapely. Will be selling him for grass in a few weeks time!

tismesoitis · 02-04-2013 04:56PM

Munster Magic wrote: »

She wont be going handy. I have no problem keeping her as she is a great heifer imo and out of a top cow

I'm not too sure about all these figures either, alot of it seems to be guesswork and bs

Will you be bringing the bull to Roscrea in October?

No he won't go to Roscrea he's a good bull but he would need to be absolutly top notch to go there if there was any chance of selling him and making all the time and expense that goes hand in hand with bringing stock to these type of sales pay off. Halter training an october Haltcliffe Dancer out of a Reigus cow( our best cow) with next march premier in mind. Now HE's a Cracker. I'll try get a pic up soon.

Munster Magic · 02-04-2013 07:33PM

Munster Magic wrote: »

An Orly cow Vicky was one of the first purebreds purchased and has gone on to breed a number of quality bulls and heifers. A square cow with plenty of milk she has an Ardlea Dan heifer calf at foot and she is scanned in calf to Haltcliffe Dancer

tismesoitis wrote: »

No he won't go to Roscrea he's a good bull but he would need to be absolutly top notch to go there if there was any chance of selling him and making all the time and expense that goes hand in hand with bringing stock to these type of sales pay off. Halter training an october Haltcliffe Dancer out of a Reigus cow( our best cow) with next march premier in mind. Now HE's a Cracker. I'll try get a pic up soon.

Do, I have the cow above incalf to Dancer. I am doing a bit with the Ardlea Dan heifer calf at the minute, hope to bring her to Roscrea in November and I have another Erasmus heifer coming on for next April as well

kboc · 02-04-2013 07:57PM

Munster Magic wrote: »

Wilodge Vantastic heifer out of a Malibu cow born in September 2010. Purchased in Roscrea October 2012 and served to Ampertaine Abracadabra and scanned in calf

Vantastic is the man in UK and NI at mo to attract premium money with ped breeders

ordinary farmer · 02-04-2013 08:01PM

reilig wrote: »

That bull was bred close to here. Several of the lads in our discussion group used him and weren't happy. His figures on ICBF wouldn't be too encouraging for puttinmg on a pedigree cow to me anyway:

http://herdplus.icbf.com/bull-search/view/animalId/469294116

Had him on a heifer last year and had to get vet to take him - he wasn't too big, just awkward IYKWIM. A red calf too. Have the calf still nad he is pretty shapely. Will be selling him for grass in a few weeks time!

yeah i wont be using him again anyway. was a nice calf but very poor now no height to him at all well built but lacks in height. have my own bull from bagatelle bred from cow that is half sister to coney island legend dam, so he does the business now on all stock.

Munster Magic · 02-04-2013 08:09PM

kboc wrote: »

Vantastic is the man in UK and NI at mo to attract premium money with ped breeders

Easier said than done to get straws of him though:(

just do it · 02-04-2013 09:25PM

Just to demonstrate the value of digging trial holes to see what you're got here are examples of different soil profiles all within the same 45ac plot of land.

1st. This is a deep trench flowing through the length of the place which at this point is bottomless peat. Here it is 5-6ft deep and that is a piece of bog deal on the bottom sitting on a peat bed.

2nd. Same trench further on. Here there is 4'6" to 5' of peat sitting on top of impermeable clay.

3rd. This is a 3ft deep channel which will be filled with stone and pipe. There is 1ft of peat sitting on impermeable clay.

4th. At trench on higher ground showing 1ft of top soil on impermeable subsoil. This is at the edge of the silage field I've posted about lately and I believe is suitable for mole ploughing.

ABlur · 02-04-2013 10:38PM

Just do it, what diameter pipe are you thinking of using? I've similiar land toying with 4 inch corripipes reckon I could flush them out if they got blocked not sure the yellow pipe would survive in softish ground with a heap of stones dumped on them. On the plus side the clay land has dried out much better than I expected. Like you I reckon I could moleplough if we got a prolonged dry spell/summer.

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