Livestock/General Farming photo thread ***READ MOD NOTE IN POST #1***

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johngalway

I'm not sure if we have such a thread already, though I might start one, see if it goes anywhere.



Feeding the savages this morning. Mixed between some old dears and ner'do wells kept in over the Winter and the rest of the flock who have been in off the hill for about two weeks now. Got more older ewes this year than I'd ideally like, my own fault for selling lambs two/three years ago that I shouldn't have to fit in with REPS numbers :rolleyes:

Being fed about 3/4lbs of ewe & lamb ration per day in one feed at the moment. If I up it to 1lbs per head I'll split the feed into morning & evening feeds. Right now, nothing is separated nor scanned. In the future I hope to be able to do this, but it'll require new fences and the cash isn't in the kitty at the moment.

So, they will lamb upside of the fence next to the troughs. As they lamb I'll move them down below which is saved for grass, growing OK at the moment, I'm happy with progress there as long as it continues. Next big job of work below side the fence is to split it in half with a new fence. Then I can start controlling the creeping thistles once the ewes & lambs move from one block to the other.

All ewes have got their booster of Heptevac P+. Lambs will get numbered, spectam, and have navels dipped in iodine as I move them from top to bottom.

Lots to do!

leg wax

we started a thread a while ago and were hopeing it could be made a sticky thread so we could all add on as we had pictures got no reply from mods:rolleyes::rolleyes:

johngalway

leg wax wrote: »

we started a thread a while ago and were hopeing it could be made a sticky thread so we could all add on as we had pictures got no reply from mods:rolleyes::rolleyes:

Got a link? I had no inclination of making this thread a sticky, unless it were to become popular enough to justify it tbh. Only so much space at the top of any page, becomes clogged up quite quickly.

dar31

leg wax wrote: »

we started a thread a while ago and were hopeing it could be made a sticky thread so we could all add on as we had pictures got no reply from mods:rolleyes::rolleyes:

maybe if a mod started a thread he might make it a sticky.

eh john!!

maybe even two stickies one for livestock and one for general photos.
love looking at the pictures over on bff

leg wax

johngalway wrote: »

Got a link? I had no inclination of making this thread a sticky, unless it were to become popular enough to justify it tbh. Only so much space at the top of any page, becomes clogged up quite quickly.

no unless i go all the way down thru old threads and i cant work out links have to get my teacher to show me.

whelan1

love your picture , the view is brilliant

snowman707

ewes appear to be in good nick, hope lambing goes well,

the night frosts don't seem to affect you as much as further inland , all the hills around here are going off colour last week or so

blue5000

Nice photo John, is that the sea or a lake below?

Can you copy and paste the steps for loading a photo on here please.

johngalway

dar31 wrote: »

maybe if a mod started a thread he might make it a sticky.

eh john!!

maybe even two stickies one for livestock and one for general photos.
love looking at the pictures over on bff

If it becomes popular, then I'm sure we'll be able to look at the various stickies and see can it be fitted in. Also, may change the thread to more general farming photos which could encompass livestock and other farming activities maybe. But, there's just the one photo here at the minute, get posting

whelan1 wrote: »

love your picture , the view is brilliant

Sure is! Can see dolphins in the bay sometimes as well.

snowman707 wrote: »

ewes appear to be in good nick, hope lambing goes well,

the night frosts don't seem to affect you as much as further inland , all the hills around here are going off colour last week or so

I just need to get some Spectam and a couple of other bits and pieces and my gear should be complete. If the weather is like it is now I'll be delighted. Figure lambs can take cold, or wet, but not both.

We're a lot milder here than even a few miles inland. Dad has land spread out across the area, one place can be white with frost when my place wouldn't have a touch at all. Problem is there's not much relief from the wind in off the sea, different inland with shelter belts etc to take the edge off it a bit.

blue5000 wrote: »

Nice photo John, is that the sea or a lake below?

Can you copy and paste the steps for loading a photo on here please.

That's the Atlantic, next stop Kerry, or Brazil :pac: We can see Mt Brandon some days off on the horizon.

I'll cheat here and direct you to two different ways of doing it posted in the Shooting section, both work, I use the Photobucket one. Complete guides with photos and all

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055376129

yessam

Testing. If this works - Thanks very much John

yessam

yessam wrote: »

Testing. If this works - Thanks very much John

red menace

Hi yessam


If you right click on your picture in Imageshack and choose open in new tab or new page then paste in the link from the new page your image should appear here
Like this: Nice dog btw

rliston

2004 MTX 140 with Claas 250 RC


My 12yr old sheepdog and the sister's useless yoke

yessam

red menace wrote: »

Hi yessam


If you right click on your picture in Imageshack and choose open in new tab or new page then paste in the link from the new page your image should appear here
Like this: Nice dog btw

Thanks red menace. I will give it a go..

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stanflt

hope this works-triplets sired by FLT

johngalway

stanflt wrote: »

hope this works-triplets sired by FLT

When were they calved and how're they doing? In the lap of luxury there

Bizzum

Was she scanned,(and triplets seen) or was it a surprise?
Heifers, bulls or a mix?
At least she will have the milk to rear them...........But the opportunity??
All very snug there!

Bizzum

Suckler style triplets.
Only one of them is hers!

what happen

stan if the triplets are 3 heifers will they all breed.i had a grandaunt who had twin heifers fr and one did not breed.it was a freemartin but i know a man who had twin fr heifers and both went in calf.

Bizzum

what happen wrote: »

stan if the triplets are 3 heifers will they all breed.i had a grandaunt who had twin heifers fr and one did not breed.it was a freemartin but i know a man who had twin fr heifers and both went in calf.

As I understand it a freemartin is the result of being a twin to a male. Twin or indeed triplet heifers are not freemartins.
I think statistically about 1 in 20 (5%) will breed. So you never know you could just get lucky!

funny man

what happen wrote: »

stan if the triplets are 3 heifers will they all breed.i had a grandaunt who had twin heifers fr and one did not breed.it was a freemartin but i know a man who had twin fr heifers and both went in calf.

It's very rare to get a freemartin in multiple births where all calves born are female, but i have seen one case of it where a cow aborted a male foetus and give birth to twin heifers two and a half months later, as a result both heifers were freemartins.

stanflt

johngalway wrote: »

When were they calved and how're they doing? In the lap of luxury there

about 2months ago-all sold now at this stage-we only keep breeding heifers. all three survived:)

stanflt

Bizzum wrote: »

Was she scanned,(and triplets seen) or was it a surprise?
Heifers, bulls or a mix?
At least she will have the milk to rear them...........But the opportunity??
All very snug there!

2bulls one heifer. no not scanned-we dont scan at all. no real need to when we only ai.

as for milk she is given 37litres a day:)but she is getting a bit extra meal in the parlour just to help her over the birth and get her back in calf

Bodacious

Bizzum wrote: »

Suckler style triplets.
Only one of them is hers!

2 opportunist thieves coming in from the back and side:D

We have twin heifers breeding away but vet reckoned on that "vets in Practice... Where bull/heifer twins 93% both are sterile. thats very interesting about the aborted bull leading to both heifers being sterile, lucky he didn't keep them two years:mad:

Bizzum

Bodacious wrote:

We have twin heifers breeding away but vet reckoned on that "vets in Practice... Where bull/heifer twins 93% both are sterile.

I think thats an old wives tale! The 93% is in the ballpark for the heifer, but the bull is another matter. There is no good reason, that I know of, why the bull should be infertile as a result of sharing a womb!
The heifer calf is likely to become masculinized having been exposed to the bull calfs hormones, but does this impact on bull fertility?

funny man

Bizzum wrote: »

I think thats an old wives tale! The 93% is in the ballpark for the heifer, but the bull is another matter. There is no good reason, that I know of, why the bull should be infertile as a result of sharing a womb!
The heifer calf is likely to become masculinized having been exposed to the bull calfs hormones, but does this impact on bull fertility?

No it's no old wives tale, while i have never heard of the bull being infertile as a result of a twin birth with the other half a female, there is some proof that the bull calf will have reduced fertility and in some cases may show signs of female characteristics (standing to be ridden).

Bodacious

funny man wrote: »

No it's no old wives tale, while i have never heard of the bull being infertile as a result of a twin birth with the other half a female, there is some proof that the bull calf will have reduced fertility and in some cases may show signs of female characteristics (standing to be ridden).

Couldnt confirm about the bull as with sucklers all would be sold/castrated anyway but heifers from Bull/heifer combined twins definitely didn't breed

whelan1

afaik when there are freemartin twins the bulls reproductive bits start formimg before the heifers and she develops male parts until her own start forming iykwim- that is the simpleton explaination

Bizzum

funny man wrote: »

No it's no old wives tale, while i have never heard of the bull being infertile as a result of a twin birth with the other half a female

Thats exactly what I'm saying!
I refer to infertility not reduced fertility. Thats a minefield I'd swiftly avoid!

Re: The proof of a bull getting all 'Girly' as a result of an in utero experience, I have not seen. But it sounds interesting. Good topic for discussion of a saturday night with a few pints, particularly as the OH is a twin to a male!

funny man

Bizzum wrote: »

Thats exactly what I'm saying!
I refer to infertility not reduced fertility. Thats a minefield I'd swiftly avoid!

Re: The proof of a bull getting all 'Girly' as a result of an in utero experience, I have not seen. But it sounds interesting. Good topic for discussion of a saturday night with a few pints, particularly as the OH is a twin to a male!

Sorry johngalway but i think we fcuked up you're thread, but i couldn't resist sharing the condition of freemartinism; By Laurie Ann Lyon, Cow Calf Corner, Oklahoma Coopereative Extension Service. Freemartinism is recognized as one of the most severe forms of sexual abnormality among cattle.



This condition causes infertility in the female cattle born twin to a male. When a heifer twin shares the uterus with a bull fetus, they also share the placental membranes connecting the fetuses with the dam.

Image Reprinted from http://www.uoguelph.ca/~rfoster/repropath/flfgpics.htm
Robert A. Foster
Department of Pathobiology
Ontario Veterinary College
University of Guelph

A joining of the placental membranes occurs at about the fortieth day of pregnancy, and thereafter, the fluids of the two fetuses are mixed. This causes exchange of blood and antigens carrying characteristics that are unique to each heifers and bulls. When these antigens mix, they affect each other in a way that causes each to develop with some characteristics of the other sex.

Although the male twin in this case is only affected by reduced fertility, in over ninety percent of the cases, the female twin is completely infertile. Because of a transfer of hormones or a transfer of cells, the heifer's reproductive tract is severely underdeveloped and sometimes even contains some elements of a bull's reproductive tract. A freemartin is genetically female, but has many characteristics of a male. The ovaries of the freemartin do not develop correctly, and they remain very small. Also, the ovaries of a freemartin do not produce the hormones necessary to induce the behavioral signs of heat. The external vulvar region can range from a very normal looking female to a female that appears to be male. Usually, the vulva is normal except that in some animals an enlarged clitoris and large tufts of vulvar hair exist. Freemartinism cannot be prevented; however, it can be diagnosed in a number of ways ranging from simple examination of the placental membranes to chromosomal evaluation. The cattleman can predict the reproductive value of this heifer calf at birth and save the feed and development costs if he is aware of the high probability of freemartinism. In some cases, there are no symptoms of freemartinism because the male twin may have been aborted at an earlier stage of gestation.

Estimates of the percentage of natural beef cattle births that produce twins vary. One estimate (Gilmore) puts the percentage at about .5% or 1 in every 200 births. Approximately one-half of the sets of twins should contain both a bull and a heifer calf.
May 2007

what happen

i bought a purebred limousin bull and he was a twin to female .he gave plenty of calves.

funny man

what happen wrote: »

i bought a purebred limousin bull and he was a twin to female .he gave plenty of calves.

over 90% affected, you got the 1 in 100

Bizzum

funny man wrote: »

Sorry johngalway but i think we fcuked up you're thread, but i couldn't resist sharing the condition of freemartinism; By Laurie Ann Lyon, Cow Calf Corner, Oklahoma Coopereative Extension Service. Freemartinism is recognized as one of the most severe forms of sexual abnormality among cattle.



This condition causes infertility in the female cattle born twin to a male. When a heifer twin shares the uterus with a bull fetus, they also share the placental membranes connecting the fetuses with the dam.

Image Reprinted from http://www.uoguelph.ca/~rfoster/repropath/flfgpics.htm
Robert A. Foster
Department of Pathobiology
Ontario Veterinary College
University of Guelph

A joining of the placental membranes occurs at about the fortieth day of pregnancy, and thereafter, the fluids of the two fetuses are mixed. This causes exchange of blood and antigens carrying characteristics that are unique to each heifers and bulls. When these antigens mix, they affect each other in a way that causes each to develop with some characteristics of the other sex.

Although the male twin in this case is only affected by reduced fertility, in over ninety percent of the cases, the female twin is completely infertile. Because of a transfer of hormones or a transfer of cells, the heifer's reproductive tract is severely underdeveloped and sometimes even contains some elements of a bull's reproductive tract. A freemartin is genetically female, but has many characteristics of a male. The ovaries of the freemartin do not develop correctly, and they remain very small. Also, the ovaries of a freemartin do not produce the hormones necessary to induce the behavioral signs of heat. The external vulvar region can range from a very normal looking female to a female that appears to be male. Usually, the vulva is normal except that in some animals an enlarged clitoris and large tufts of vulvar hair exist. Freemartinism cannot be prevented; however, it can be diagnosed in a number of ways ranging from simple examination of the placental membranes to chromosomal evaluation. The cattleman can predict the reproductive value of this heifer calf at birth and save the feed and development costs if he is aware of the high probability of freemartinism. In some cases, there are no symptoms of freemartinism because the male twin may have been aborted at an earlier stage of gestation.

Estimates of the percentage of natural beef cattle births that produce twins vary. One estimate (Gilmore) puts the percentage at about .5% or 1 in every 200 births. Approximately one-half of the sets of twins should contain both a bull and a heifer calf.
May 2007

Ah I didn't do too bad off the top of my head. I must have been awake they days I was being taught genetics!:)
I even cracked open a can of stout at the thought of it.

Bizzum

funny man wrote: »

over 90% affected, you got the 1 in 100

Ah funny man, you're still missing the point.
The 90% only refers to heifers being infertile. The bull calf (twin to a heifer) may exhibit reduced fertility, but I'd say a huge amount of breeding bulls out there are not at 100% anyway. Even a bull operating at 70/80% will get all the calves most farmers want.

Bizzum

Before Johngalway loses all reason, I'll attempt to get back on track after all my messing!

Here's a pic to remind us what grassland looks like..........Won't be long now 'till everywhere greens up! (Hopefully)

laughter189

johngalway

Bizzum wrote: »

Before Johngalway loses all reason, I'll attempt to get back on track after all my messing!

Here's a pic to remind us what grassland looks like..........Won't be long now 'till everywhere greens up! (Hopefully)

I'd nearly eat a feed of that myself!

whelan1

we have sold many a stock bull that where twin to females and never got one back ... yet

Bodacious

Bizzum wrote: »

Thats exactly what I'm saying!
I refer to infertility not reduced fertility. Thats a minefield I'd swiftly avoid!

Re: The proof of a bull getting all 'Girly' as a result of an in utero experience, I have not seen. But it sounds interesting. Good topic for discussion of a saturday night with a few pints, particularly as the OH is a twin to a male!

Good man Bizzum,

You could knock some crack out of that alright, if it was me anyway id have the GF half convinced by the end of the night that i could see an adams apple developing.. drive her cracked altogether.

I dehorned set of twin yearlings today piedmontese X Lim and heifer had bigger thicker and longer horns by a long shot than an uncastrated male twin think she was running on male hormones or what?!!:D

johngalway

Nom,nom,nom,nom,nom....

:pac:

Not bad for a rock farmer with bad land, grass coming along nicely the past two days. Sheep better hurry up and start dropping lambs or it's going to outgrow them :eek:

johngalway

First lambs born today Ewe & ram lamb. Ewe has sign of plenty of milk, and although they seem a little deflated they had sucked and looked much better an hour later - when I had colostrum at the ready :pac: Two squirts of Spectam each, dipped navels, numbered lambs and ewe and gave ewe a dose of Grovite.

vanderbadger

johngalway wrote: »

First lambs born today Ewe & ram lamb. Ewe has sign of plenty of milk, and although they seem a little deflated they had sucked and looked much better an hour later - when I had colostrum at the ready :pac: Two squirts of Spectam each, dipped navels, numbered lambs and ewe and gave ewe a dose of Grovite.

is someone burning bushes in the background?

Tora Bora

johngalway wrote: »

First lambs born today Ewe & ram lamb. Ewe has sign of plenty of milk, and although they seem a little deflated they had sucked and looked much better an hour later - when I had colostrum at the ready :pac: Two squirts of Spectam each, dipped navels, numbered lambs and ewe and gave ewe a dose of Grovite.

What's that smoke in the distant background?
Would it be your aul fella, brewing a bit of potteen:D

vanderbadger

Tora Bora wrote: »

What's that smoke in the distant background?
Would it be your aul fella, brewing a bit of potteen:D

great minds and all that

Username John

johngalway wrote: »

First lambs born today Ewe & ram lamb. Ewe has sign of plenty of milk, and although they seem a little deflated they had sucked and looked much better an hour later - when I had colostrum at the ready :pac: Two squirts of Spectam each, dipped navels, numbered lambs and ewe and gave ewe a dose of Grovite.

Good man John - best o luck with em. Now the fun starts ha... Do you have many to lamb?

johngalway

Smoke is from the neighbour, haven't a notion what he's at to be honest, wouldn't say it's bushes as it seems to be in the yard.

Got about 37 more to go, miniature farmer that I am :pac:

johnpawl

Calf yesterday

RobinBanks

johnpawl wrote: »

Calf yesterday

Jasus thats a big calf John. Great coat of hair on him aswell. What bull is he out of - Mogador?

Bizzum

johnpawl wrote: »

Calf yesterday

Smashing outfit. Did she calve unassisted?

johnpawl

Ya completely unassisted, calf up and sucking within 15 mins, I was happy with that. Cow isnt much to look at but she always throws a good calf! Calf off a pedigree stock bull..