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The super honest what's wrong with the IAA thread 2013 mod warning post 1 and post53
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Were you the same poster who came onto boards.ie to accuse the IAA of tarnishing your reputation after asking a mate on a committee to make your service as a webmaster available to the IAA ,
Yeah I was. And the accusation wasn't against the IAA, it was against very specific people, you included, who decided to have a little gossip and bitch about me when I offered to assist with some technical backend work for the IAA.
After hearing this, and commitee members flat out lieing that it didn't happen, I very clearly told you all to get ****eddidnt you also come onto boards.ie to post about headbutting /loafing another airsoft player at an IAA affiliated site
Yeah I did. An aggressive player kicked a pallet I was behind knocking me back, when I got up to confront he got aggressive so I smacked him. What's the problem?Now history has shown the first people to use the baseless allegation excuse is usually the first admit to there was wrong doing, and is followed by public apologies and various pubic appearance's I didn't know it was happening
That makes no sense, I'll try to actually break that down. You are trying to say that people who try muffle IAA criticise, end up coming out apologising and acknowledging something has actually happened?
Er, no.
The stuff you, Andy_G and Tony McCann have posted in this thread, has been total rubbish. You've harpered on about transparency, where the IAA last term was transparent as could be.
Do you want a ****ing letter in your mailbox to give you a personal update on what's going on?
You don't even play the game anymore, you come out of the woodwork every now and again to get involved in IAA bashing, or anything you can get a bit of contro. I'd tell you that if you wanted to see change to get involved and run for a position, but sure we already know how that worked out don't we
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I have the email in front of me from TheDocs original post, please elaborate on the personal information as I can see none?
I was wondering about that myself. According to the mail notification I received, this line was snipped: "The stuff you, Andy_G and Tony McCann have posted in this thread, has been total rubbish. You've harpered on about transparency, where the IAA last term was transparent as could be.
He was citing posts made in this very thread - how has he revealed any more personal information than was already given by the people themselves? How exactly can you justify a ban for what he said?0 -
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The_ChiefDUB also banned for one week for reposting the deleted information.
Come on seriously, what f*cking planet are you on:eek:??? He quoted Andy_g and tonymccann, per their user names. And as for HRTA (Paul) he signs off on each post with his name so please explain yourself. TheDoc and The_ChiefDUB have broken no rules, reverse those bans immediately. Personally I don't know either user but I know a right royal f*ck up when I see one.:mad: 0 -
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Yeah I was. And the accusation wasn't against the IAA, it was against very specific people, you included, who decided to have a little gossip and bitch about me when I offered to assist with some technical backend work for the IAA.
After hearing this, and commitee members flat out lieing that it didn't happen, I very clearly told you all to get ****ed
Yeah I did. An aggressive player kicked a pallet I was behind knocking me back, when I got up to confront he got aggressive so I smacked him. What's the problem?
That makes no sense, I'll try to actually break that down. You are trying to say that people who try muffle IAA criticise, end up coming out apologising and acknowledging something has actually happened?
Er, no.
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Do you want a ****ing letter in your mailbox to give you a personal update on what's going on?
You don't even play the game anymore, you come out of the woodwork every now and again to get involved in IAA bashing, or anything you can get a bit of contro. I'd tell you that if you wanted to see change to get involved and run for a position, but sure we already know how that worked out don't we
Doc nobody had a gossip about you, your offer was made at a committee meeting with 4 executive members ,
What you said about the headbutt didnt go down well with everybody some/ wanted your membership permanently stripped as stated in the constitution,one affiliate would have walked and publicly state why he felt you shouldn't be allowed to be involved with the IAA,
All 4 members of the executive committee discussed your offer and all 4 said no ,
Funny thing I asked that you attend a committee meeting to discuss some plans and project's you may have been interested in working on ,
My committee wasn't my committee do you forget the chair ,pro ,secretary treasurer you know the ones that resigned actually never turned up ,
And every suggestion I made while on that committee to promote or do any projects was shot down by former committee members ,not current elected committee members but former committee members .
And I don't play anymore - I was playing long before some and I will be playing long after some are gone
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We should all be ashamed of ourselves, as everything that is bring our sport down can be found on this thread and I'm not going to type out a long list, because we all know what we have done wrong
Also, the definition of sport:
"An activity involving physical exertion and skill in which an individual or team competes against another or others"
Which is normally in good faith and with honor, there is no skill or honor in taking each other down a peg to make a point, no matter how righteous it maybe at the time
Plus, there has been too much negative "against another or others" for too long and it has to stop or we risk more damage to the sport of Airsoft
So please remember, to be kind and it takes fewer muscles to smile
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And then the conversation took a spin sideways, where files were presented documenting my actions, boards activity and site activity over a course of time, containing inflamatory remarks and used as leverage against my volunteering. I've no problem with someone having a bitch about me. I'd a problem with the person who was instigating it.Doc nobody had a gossip about you, your offer was made at a committee meeting with 4 executive membersWhat you said about the headbutt didnt go down well with everybody some/ wanted your membership permanently stripped as stated in the constitution,one affiliate would have walked and publicly state why he felt you shouldn't be allowed to be involved with the IAA
First I'm hearing of it. The incident occured in front of a number of highly respected members of the community, on a site that was at the time highly regarded for it's stewardship before it closed up. Considering the marshall's and site owner were present, saw the incident, and their first reaction was to ban the aggressor, and ask me was I ok, says alot about the situation.
I had already started to walk for the exit assuming a ban from the site, but was pulled back and was told not to be daft. The individual banned went on to also have a physical altercation with two more members who post here, getting himself an additional two site bans, before he was unofficially banned from numerous sites he had never even attended.
I've only got in two heated incidents whilst playing airsoft. Both in front of numerous people, both on respected sites, and both times I was deemed the innocent party while the other party was sanctioned with a ban or "yellow card".
I don't want to drag up these incidents again, it will only have people wanting to know the story, but I'm confident enough that based on the situation that occured and the moment, I wasn't grossly out of order, and there was enough witness', IAA members, and site owners present, to take disciplinary actin against me if they so felt is appropriate.
As regards an affiliate walking away on account of me? **** my influence just hit a new height
Well you were there, so I guess you know what was said. I think you should assume I have it on good authority, if I'm feeling confident enough to discuss what was said, in a room of four people, and I wasn't one of themAll 4 members of the executive committee discussed your offer and all 4 said no ,
Funny thing I asked that you attend a committee meeting to discuss some plans and project's you may have been interested in working on , The irony being you were one of the people here asking for transparency, and meeting minutes never appeared from this meeting. They were requested through all formal channels and none were provided. It is worth mentioned that alot of people in the community knew about this carry on before I did, and it caused a bit of embarrassment on my part, especially when alot of people seemed to know, expect me.
I can't recall getting an invite to any committee meeting to discuss my involvement or projects. I know I had collaborated on a project that led to the inevitable volunteering, but obviously if you invited me to a meeting after the above mentioned shadow discussion, you can put one and one together to figure out why I said no ( And I probably said more then no, if I even gave a response)
It is a figure of speech, let's not get into semantics.My committee wasn't my committee do you forget the chair ,pro ,secretary treasurer you know the ones that resigned actually never turned up
It is worth correction here. "The Membership" queried some decisions and projects. It is irrelevant if they were previous committee members. It was the membership, by which the acting committees are liable too. If I'm honest though I can sympathise with you. The committees that came before you had some big players, and big reputations and big personalities. They had gone through some tough years of hard work to ensure things were going right, and probably felt there was a wrong turn being taken, and felt they needed to weigh in.And every suggestion I made while on that committee to promote or do any projects was shot down by former committee members ,not current elected committee members but former committee members .
I'm not being sarcastic or smart here, I'm being genuine. I know obviously I am personal friends with past committee members, but there has being numerous times where we have disagreed on certain issues, and there has been certain directions or "crusades" they have gone on, that I havn't being supportive of.
I can't recall the specific example your referencing ( The only thing I remember for that term of office, is another can of worms) so I can't make detailed comment.
[/quote]And I don't play anymore - I was playing long before some and I will be playing long after some are gone
This is true and there is no debate here. You were part of HRTA with a crew of others, before most of us knew about the game. I for one, had no idea there was something like Airsoft down the road from me (literally). But it still stands to reason, that it raises questions when you constantly appear to weigh in. And it is mostly during an IAA discussion.
I'm not saying you need to be playing regularly to have involvement, not at all, our communitys cores for years was a chairsofting brigade. But when it comes to the national body, the body that deals with the current pain issues, the problems, the vibes, the groups, the sites and just the game in general., it does go some way to actually knowing what is going on, and actually be out playing. It is on par with if Shiva started coming in barrelling on about regulations with regards to retailing, years after his shop shut its doors.0 -
Me and my mod buddy's .
Grow up ,
I stand by myself don't need a bunch of team mates to massage my posts on here what conversation was turned against me ,
I point the obvious what's actually wrong with the IAA people either report a post or they don't , I've no say in what's removed or isn't wasn't my original post removed for no reason ,
So that contradicts your post
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SEALs_Ireland wrote: »We should all be ashamed of ourselves, as everything that is bring our sport down can be found on this thread and I'm not going to type out a long list, because we all know what we have done wrong
Also, the definition of sport:
"An activity involving physical exertion and skill in which an individual or team competes against another or others"
Which is normally in good faith and with honor, there is no skill or honor in taking each other down a peg to make a point, no matter how righteous it maybe at the time
Plus, there has been too much negative "against another or others" for too long and it has to stop or we risk more damage to the sport of Airsoft
So please remember, to be kind and it takes fewer muscles to smile
For as much as we always firmly believe in ensuring we stay away from real steel assosiation, we sure as hell act like it when it comes to the politics.
I think that the wedge has been dug too deep on some sides, for their to be any going back. Personally I'm open to anything, and I'm open minded when it comes to debate. I've sown up damaged relationships within this community, as with other **** in life and other sports.
There just so happens that I haven't done alot in airsoft, either because I believe strongly in a certain stance relative to a topic, or some sort of incident that occured. And I know others are the same. While its no benefit to drag it back up into the open, it kinda puts a dent into the "lets all kiss and get along".
Like I'd say from reading my stuff for example, people would assume I have massive beef with Gatling, Andy_g, Dogwatch, Thermo among others. The actual fact of the matter is I don't. Yeah I don't agree with all their points, I don't agree with some of their opinions. I've had disagreements in relation to how items have been moderated, and the style in general.
But its not like I actually despise the person behind the name or anything. A lot of the newer posters won't know this, but there was a time when we all played happy as larry every weekend, chatting, having a laugh and playing the game. It's actually funny looking back, when you look at the different groups, opinions, the barriers that have been raised. We actually ALL started playing in HRTA, and there was a time when we ALL got along flawless and had savage craic.
In recent times we query HRTA's posts and what the goal is, what the spin and sideshow is going to be. But (I know I don't anyway) I don't forget thats where I started the game, its where I was shown the ropes, and it was where I was welcomed into the game. I was looked after with the odd free game for helping marshall, lifts home from Eirsoft.ie, and being welcomed to use the site for practice and team training. I don't forget that, and I respect it.
I think some people just take what should be open debate where sometimes you find the middle ground, sometimes you don't and that's it. But somehow here it turns personal beyond belief and people take massive offence to having their views challenged or queried.0 -
@ The Doc I've no explanation for why there was no minutes produced I signed off on them feck all of them were published that year again beyond my control ,
I organised that committee meeting in the redcow and sent out the meeting agenda ,
Your offer wasn't mentioned before the meeting ,
First I or the other's heard of your offer was near the end of that meeting ,
there certainly wasn't any documents anything else produced against you ,
What happened at that site was public knowledge at that stage ,as it was all over Facebook and twitter ,then you posted on here ,I didn't know what happened nor did I want to know ,
I was approached and asked to take action over it ,
My response was if you want to make a complaint do so in writing and in an email, other wise its hear say what happened ,
You weren't discussed about to retailers or sites not by me ,
If you do feel I agrived you please accept my apologies .
Doc you do things and say thing differently to how I say and do things but I do believe we are both passionate about our sport and community
But it seem's like a lot of situations on here or off here is based off he said you said and the merry dance of grude's begin ,
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Your point is valid and you are entitled to make it - you won't be attacked for it on my watch.Now watch me get attacked.
Edit- In meat world , airsofters are a nice bunch. Just what happened to boards???
And yeah, airsofters are still salt of the earth IRL but... give them a keyboard...
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God Forbid, I think this is some constructive self analysis. Food for thought.
Its just a terrible image of the community online sometimes.
It need not be so with such a bunch of well intentioned enthusiasts.
Look at all the names from when this forum started, All gone, that is sad.
Anyhow, Im drunk again 0 -
God Forbid, I think this is some constructive self analysis. Food for thought.
Its just a terrible image of the community online sometimes.
It need not be so with such a bunch of well intentioned enthusiasts.
Look at all the names from when this forum started, All gone, that is sad.
Anyhow, Im drunk again
Not everywhere online, just on boards!
There are better places on the internet than here for discussing Irish Airsoft....0 -
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