Celtic FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2014/15 Mod Warning post #6011

A Dub in Glasgo wrote: »

Players not interested today again, Motherwell might even catch us

On another note, pic of the police upholding the democratic right to protest. This is from earlier before the game and it is the Green Brigade protest at heavy handed policing, looks like the police don't like that at all

Thats absolutely disgraceful. Glasgow must be crime free these days.

Terrible from the Police my feeling on our lot are well known and I feel the same about the GB but when the Police act like this you have to ask where is the democracy in Scotland.
We are not in the 60's and 70's anymore when Police behaviour like this was ignored in the main

To be fair, 13 arrests according to STV won't just be for a march to the ground.

From what I am hearing they didn't have peission to march if that is the case then it is just asking for bother

A Dub in Glasgo wrote: »

When I went to matches, not one of us had permission to walk on the road to the ground but we still did, don't remember being treated like a bunch of criminals. That picture of the mounted policeman assaulting* the kid is disgusting




* try doing that to a copper and you will soon see what happens

I am not saying that picture isn't
As far as the GB are concerned they advertised it as a march you need permits for that also the Police nowadays have the power to break up illegal groups ie more than a certain amount of people it's also being said two were arrested for carrying blades now it was a tic fan who told me that. If they have went against the law then they are stupid wether you or I think certain laws are wrong no groups are above them. Don't worry the same things are happening with our groups they are not alone

Jelle1880 wrote: »

To be fair, 13 arrests according to STV won't just be for a march to the ground.

So automatically you buy the line do you? You do understand what kettling is all about or do you?? It would be equally outrageous if i t were the Ub , BO or any other fan group btw

Broxi_Bear_Eire wrote: »

To be accurate they advertised it as march or a Corteo how pretentious. Anyway they had not applied for the correct permits. The Police had to do something if this was the case they are not above the law no matter what theyay think. As for the Kettling it is a dangerous route but what else are the Police meant to do. You talk about the violence of the 70's and 80's well tell you what there would have been no Kettling. What would have happened is it would have been classed as a mob gathering a couple of warming would have been given to disperse if they were ignored then the Police would have started lifting People and have happily used their Batons to beat people up. The whole thing for me is the Permits they know they need th so why not get them or is it they would rather confrontation

Yeah they advertised it as whatever they advertised it as, but all it really amounts to is a couple of hundred people walking up a route in amongst the 5-10 thousand others who would use the same route that day.
It could just as easily have been a couple of busloads of fans being dropped at the cross at the same time, or a pub emptying.
Christ, it could just as easily have been the underground emptying at Cessnock or Ibrox stations.
As i said, the next step is to break up any groups of over 5, which technically they have the right to do - can you imagine that happening on Paisley Rd.?

The jump from kettling to full blown riot police being a regular, open presence on route to football matches is not a big one.
And the jump from there, to batons being used liberally isn't a hard one to make either.

For me, the police put the public at risk yesterday, because if it had kicked off it wouldn't just have been the Green brigade who got caught up in it, any man woman or child who happened to have been walking past would have also got caught up in the problem.

Society as a whole is edgy at the moment, all over Europe. This isn't just about groups of football supporters, it won't be long until any gathering, with any form of political edge is treated in this manner.

Dempsey wrote: »

So you need to apply for permission from the government to protest against the government? :pac:

I dont think the issue of permits excuses the police for their behaviour tbh, 2 wrongs dont make a right and all that.

If you want your march to go ahead you need the permits its simple why should the GB be above the law.
Of course I don't agree with Police brutality but if its true that two were arrested for carrying blades I can have no sympathy

Broxi_Bear_Eire wrote: »

If you want your march to go ahead you need the permits its simple why should the GB be above the law.
Of course I don't agree with Police brutality but if its true that two were arrested for carrying blades I can have no sympathy

So the tactics of police against dozens of people are correct because two people were carrying blades? You have a f*cked up sense of how the world should work tbh

A Dub in Glasgo wrote: »

One of the 15 year olds getting arrested by 5 or 6 of Strathclydes finest bravest men. No doubt he will be charged with Breach of the Peace and get a football banning order

Some swearing in the video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKOdcC69Mfo

The police were an absolute disgrace yesterday and this whole thing from them is getting out of hand

That sums it up for me in all honesty - people try and break the cordon and it's batons at the ready.

Jelle1880 wrote: »

People coming out of a pub, probably with a few pints in them.
If it's true that some were carrying knives then imo it's justified.

Who brings a knife to a football game ? :rolleyes:

I'm not justifying the carrying of knifes or weapons but kettling scores of people in the manner you see in those videos to randomly catch 2 people with knifes is not a good tactic, it is not a justified way of policing crowds. Maybe its ok in the police state you come from though :rolleyes:

The knives thing is rumour probably started by those who want to put the police in good light and justify yesterday's disgraceful scenes from the police

Dempsey wrote: »

So the tactics of police against dozens of people are correct because two people were carrying blades? You have a f*cked up sense of how the world should work tbh

You obviously live on a wee world where you have never seen the damage one person can do with a blade.
Tell me why did they not apply for the permits and they must have know they had to. Could it be they wanted confrontation.
I have already said I don't agree with Police brutality but then again I don't believe groups like the GB and the UB are above the law.

Lennonist wrote: »

The Cops are completely bang out of order here from what I can see from those video clips. Maybe the GB didn't apply for a permit to demonstrate because they knew they wouldn't get one or the police would delay the issuing of one. I remember from times I used to travel to watch Celtic, I always found that there was an unnecessary aggressive attitude coming from the security, it was as if they wanted confrontation. We have seen examples of highly inappropriate individuals who have been sent by the cops to police the GB and watch them in the stadium. This aggressive stance will lead to confrontation. Someone needs to step in and diffuse this situation before it develops further. It's ridiculous to be seeing inappropriate and stupid carry on from the security forces in this day and age, they will be well able to handle it if they use their heads.

That's because a lot of them actually do.

I read somewhere that Strathclyde Police have a budget that has to be used before the end of March, so what better way to do it than pay a ton of cops overtime ?