Celtic FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2014/15 Mod Warning post #6011

SomethingElse

Well overdue a new thread. Hopefully this season will see Celtic returning to the group stages of the champions league after an absence of four years. On the domestic front, the team will be expected to retain the SPL title won under Neil Lennon last season. Any major moves in the transfer market are expected only if the team ensure champions league football, leading to the possibility of a frantic last few days of the transfer window. Here's to an exciting season

Dempsey

If Ki leaves and I expect him to, I hope Celtic sign Markus Henriksen, Ki with a bit more 'drive' in his game.

LiamoSail

Ki's off, Mjallby just confirmed on SSN that the club are in negotiations with a number of other clubs and he wants out

RoryMac

LiamoSail wrote: »

Ki's off, Mjallby just confirmed on SSN that the club are in negotiations with a number of other clubs and he wants out

Hopefully a few clubs being interested will drive up the fee.

Dempsey

Anthony Stokes hasnt travelled with the Celtic squad to Sweden. So the only strikers we have are Hooper & Samaras

Hooper, Brown & Forrest will be doing fitness tests this evening but are expected to play.

Savage Tyrant

I PM'd a mod last week for a new thread but was told we'd get it after 10k posts.

Anyway, I'm hopeful we'll get a decent fee for Ki. Wether it'll be reinvested in the squad is another thing.

Savage Tyrant

Dempsey wrote: »

Anthony Stokes hasnt travelled with the Celtic squad to Sweden. So the only strikers we have are Hooper & Samaras

Hooper, Brown & Forrest will be doing fitness tests this evening but are expected to play.

FFS! There isn't a footballer in Samaras at all. He plays at least 9 mediocre to poor games for every 1 decent to good.
I'd take any price for him, and replace him with some of the Ki money when it arrives.

bobmalooka

Dempsey wrote: »

Anthony Stokes hasnt travelled with the Celtic squad to Sweden. So the only strikers we have are Hooper & Samaras

Hooper, Brown & Forrest will be doing fitness tests this evening but are expected to play.

Presuming stokes isn't fit, doubt we'd sell him unless Lenny was buying a European standard striker.

PauloMN

Savage Tyrant wrote: »

FFS! There isn't a footballer in Samaras at all. He plays at least 9 mediocre to poor games for every 1 decent to good.
I'd take any price for him, and replace him with some of the Ki money when it arrives.

He can be frustrating at time, no doubt, but do you not think he had a good last season? I thought he was very good last season.

Lawrence1895

It should be easy enough to progress to the group stages, since the first leg is in Sweden...so I hope

bobmalooka

PauloMN wrote: »

Savage Tyrant wrote: »

FFS! There isn't a footballer in Samaras at all. He plays at least 9 mediocre to poor games for every 1 decent to good.
I'd take any price for him, and replace him with some of the Ki money when it arrives.

He can be frustrating at time, no doubt, but do you not think he had a good last season? I thought he was very good last season.

I'd hate to lose sammy his direct pace,power and ability to keep the ball are a good contrast to the rest of our play going forward, he can test your patience though with some of his sammy moments.

Dempsey

bobmalooka wrote: »

Presuming stokes isn't fit, doubt we'd sell him unless Lenny was buying a European standard striker.

Sorry, should have been clearer. Stokes isnt fit to play. Dylan McGeouch, Daryl Murphy, Mo Bangura, Filip Twardzik and Rabiu Ibrahim are all out aswell.

Lennon says that talks with another club (Swansea) are at an advanced stage. Basically all Ki has to do is sign his name on the dotted line. Lennon doesnt know if he'll get the money to reinvest yet.

premierstone

Savage Tyrant wrote: »

FFS! There isn't a footballer in Samaras at all. He plays at least 9 mediocre to poor games for every 1 decent to good.
I'd take any price for him, and replace him with some of the Ki money when it arrives.

Second half of last season Sammy was our best and most consistent player.

bobmalooka

Dempsey wrote: »

bobmalooka wrote: »

Presuming stokes isn't fit, doubt we'd sell him unless Lenny was buying a European standard striker.

Sorry, should have been clearer. Stokes isnt fit to play. Dylan McGeouch, Daryl Murphy, Mo Bangura, Filip Twardzik and Rabiu Ibrahim are all out aswell.

Lennon says that talks with another club (Swansea) are at an advanced stage. Basically all Ki has to do is sign his name on the dotted line. Lennon doesnt know if he'll get the money to reinvest yet.

I'd say he can reinvest it but keeping expectations cool in case he can't secure his target/s. I guess now we know why Lenny was trying mc court in the ki role during pre season.

Dempsey

brian mclauchlin ‏@BBCBMcLauchlin

BBC Scotland has learned that Celtic have agreed to sell Ki to Swansea City for a fee close to £6 million. More soon

Nearly tripling our money on a player that doesnt want to be here anymore isnt bad business at all.

EDIT

Alex O'Henley ‏@OHenleyAlex

#Swansea's initial offer for #Ki was £5m plus Stephen Dobbie.I believe they've now come back with a higher bid in excess of £6m with add-ons

Dobbie? No thanks, we already have Daryl Murphy!

Pompey Magnus

Dempsey wrote: »

brian mclauchlin ‏@BBCBMcLauchlin

BBC Scotland has learned that Celtic have agreed to sell Ki to Swansea City for a fee close to £6 million. More soon

Nearly tripling our money on a player that doesnt want to be here anymore isnt bad business at all.

Just as impressive is that he is far from our most important player, given a fully fit midfield I would not even have him on the starting line up. I would miss Ledley, Wanyama, a fit Kayal and perhaps Brown more than I will Ki. A good player no doubt but just not quite right for Scotland.

RoryMac

Pompey Magnus wrote: »

Just as impressive is that he is far from our most important player, given a fully fit midfield I would not even have him on the starting line up. I would miss Ledley, Wanyama, a fit Kayal and perhaps Brown more than I will Ki. A good player no doubt but just not quite right for Scotland.

Yeah that sums my feelings up too, I do think Ki has the potential to become a very good player and hopefully we have a sell on clause but never really nailed down a starting spot.

Hopefully we'll move quickly for a decent CB, we're very short numbers there and I don't think Wanyama is the answer even short term.

Dempsey

Pompey Magnus wrote: »

Just as impressive is that he is far from our most important player, given a fully fit midfield I would not even have him on the starting line up. I would miss Ledley, Wanyama, a fit Kayal and perhaps Brown more than I will Ki. A good player no doubt but just not quite right for Scotland.

Alex O'Henley ‏@OHenleyAlex

For those asking if #Dobbie is still part of proposed #Ki deal, no not as far as I understand. Fee of £6-6.5m w add-ons poss rising to £8m

He's too casual on the ball and doesnt do enough defensively imo. He's best suited to a 5 man midfield. Possibly £8m for him!

blahfckingblah

christ, i think id prefer to see us exchange him for dobby from harry potter than him

ColeTrain

All the best to Ki. A underrated player within the Celtic support imo.
If we do get to the group stages then he well be missed. But if he wants out and the price is right then what can you do. I expect a good sell on clause and future fees, it would be very daft just to get one lump sum.

eire4

PauloMN wrote: »

He can be frustrating at time, no doubt, but do you not think he had a good last season? I thought he was very good last season.

I agree I though he played very well for us last season especially when he played wide left rather then up front.

ColeTrain

Does anyone know if the Helsingborg game is on TV or will be looking at streams?

Lawrence1895

ColeTrain wrote: »

Does anyone know if the Helsingborg game is on TV or will be looking at streams?

Live on TV3, coverage starts at 7:30

ColeTrain

Lars1916 wrote: »

Live on TV3, coverage starts at 7:30

TV3
Still, better than a dodgy stream with Arabic commentary -just about!

Lawrence1895

ColeTrain wrote: »

TV3
Still, better than a dodgy stream with Arabic commentary -just about!

I think, it's a pity, that you can't get Channel 67 in Ireland, so we have to deal with TV3, I guess

Broxi_Bear_Eire

ColeTrain wrote: »

TV3
Still, better than a dodgy stream with Arabic commentary -just about!

Its also on STV if you have SKY and add it to your extra channels

Lawrence1895

Broxi_Bear_Eire wrote: »

Its also on STV if you have SKY and add it to your extra channels

Are you gonna watch the match?

the realpigiron

Ki sold for about 6 million according to Lenny. I think that's a decent price for a player who wasn't a first team pick when everyone was fit, and who wanted to leave the SPL and try his hand in England himself. The money for him will go on keeping on top of the finances by the looks of it. Still need to get to the CL group stages if we are going to see a couple of decent signings.

Broxi_Bear_Eire

Lars1916 wrote: »

Are you gonna watch the match?

If I can't find a stream or radio broadcast for our then probably. Unless of course I can find something more exciting to do like watching paint dry

Lawrence1895

Broxi_Bear_Eire wrote: »

If I can't find a stream or radio broadcast for our then probably. Unless of course I can find something more exciting to do like watching paint dry

You could sit in the garden and watch the grass growing, or go to the airport and count the tiles in the bathrooms

Broxi_Bear_Eire

Lars1916 wrote: »

You could sit in the garden and watch the grass growing, or go to the airport and count the tiles in the bathrooms

Your right thanks for the ideas

the realpigiron

Broxi_Bear_Eire wrote: »

If I can't find a stream or radio broadcast for our then probably. Unless of course I can find something more exciting to do like watching paint dry

You'll be watching. Even though your team plays in a different league than Celtic, you're still obsessed:pac:.

Broxi_Bear_Eire

the realpigiron wrote: »

You'll be watching. Even though your team plays in a different league than Celtic, you're still obsessed:pac:.

Obsessed you ****ing delusional I suggest you count how many posts I have put in the Celtic threads in the last couple of months. Then count how many you have made in the Rangers ones or even in here then tell me who is delusional

the realpigiron

Broxi_Bear_Eire wrote: »

Obsessed you ****ing delusional I suggest you count how many posts I have put in the Celtic threads in the last couple of months. Then count how many you have made in the Rangers ones or even in here then tell me who is delusional

Delusional? Never mentioned the word. Don't be foaming about the mouth, calm down lad. Sure I'm just as obsessed about your club. I can't wait 'til the next big game comes around v Stenhousemuir is it:pac:

Broxi_Bear_Eire

the realpigiron wrote: »

Delusional? Never mentioned the word. Don't be foaming about the mouth, calm down lad. Sure I'm just as obsessed about your club. I can't wait 'til the next big game comes around v Stenhousemuir is it:pac:

Foaming at the mouth because of an poster like you Aye right. LOL even one of your fellow supporters had a go at you for bringing Rangers into the Celtic thread and Guess what you have just done it again.
If brains were dynamite you wouldn't have enough to blow your hat off

the realpigiron

Broxi_Bear_Eire wrote: »

Foaming at the mouth because of an idiot like you Aye right. LOL even one of your fellow supporters had a go at you for bringing Rangers into the Celtic thread and Guess what you have just done it again.

Oh I wouldn't worry about that, I put him in his box;). Now stop hyperventilating there's a good lad;)

ColeTrain

matt mcglone ‏@MattMcGlone9
I'm told the initial fee for Ki if he signs for Swansea is £6.3m with £1.2m of add-ons dependent on appearances, with a 15% sell on fee.

the realpigiron

ColeTrain wrote: »

matt mcglone ‏@MattMcGlone9
I'm told the initial fee for Ki if he signs for Swansea is £6.3m with £1.2m of add-ons dependent on appearances, with a 15% sell on fee.

That would be a good deal for Celtic for Ki if the info is accurate.

Dempsey

ColeTrain wrote: »

matt mcglone ‏@MattMcGlone9
I'm told the initial fee for Ki if he signs for Swansea is £6.3m with £1.2m of add-ons dependent on appearances, with a 15% sell on fee.

Fantastic deal for a squad player if you ask me :eek:

Broxi_Bear_Eire

the realpigiron wrote: »

Oh I wouldn't worry about that, I put him in his box;). Now stop hyperventilating there's a good lad;)

Don't talk ****e I reckon if anything it was the other way round now why don't you get on with talking about your own team and give me peace.

Coillte_Bhoy

the realpigiron wrote: »

Delusional? Never mentioned the word. Don't be foaming about the mouth, calm down lad. Sure I'm just as obsessed about your club. I can't wait 'til the next big game comes around v Stenhousemuir is it:pac:

No one gives a rats arse eh? **** sake give it a rest will ya, you're embarrassing yourself with your obsession with them

Coillte_Bhoy

the realpigiron wrote: »

Oh I wouldn't worry about that, I put him in his box;). Now stop hyperventilating there's a good lad;)

oh dear, :rolleyes:

Coillte_Bhoy

ColeTrain wrote: »

matt mcglone ‏@MattMcGlone9
I'm told the initial fee for Ki if he signs for Swansea is £6.3m with £1.2m of add-ons dependent on appearances, with a 15% sell on fee.

Happy enough with that. Unfortunately i doubt Lennon will be given much of it if any

Dempsey

Coillte_Bhoy wrote: »

Happy enough with that. Unfortunately i doubt Lennon will be given much of it if any

We should stop paying debts for the craic! Whats the worst that could happen! :pac:

bobmalooka

Dempsey wrote: »

Coillte_Bhoy wrote: »

Happy enough with that. Unfortunately i doubt Lennon will be given much of it if any

We should stop paying debts for the craic! Whats the worst that could happen! :pac:

Good call, we'd get to set the new Scottish record for attendance at a fourth tier match next year too. Back on topic gonna miss ki but we got a decent deal according to what's been reported, we are blessed our 5th choice midfielder is so good. I think he can do well at Swansea.

Coillte_Bhoy

Dempsey wrote: »

We should stop paying debts for the craic! Whats the worst that could happen! :pac:

I dont think our debt is a problem or am i picking you up wrong??

ColeTrain

It is good business if that is the fee. I still think we will miss Ki but you can't turn down that money if he's not going to be playing every week plus he only had 18 months left on his contract.

We still need a striker. Samaras is best played out wide. Stokes and Hooper are also similar enough so another option is needed. A central defender wouldn't go amiss either. Rogne is injured a lot and Wilson is a bit suspect, Wanyama can play there but is better in midfield.


Tomorrow nights game will go along way to determine if there are going to be signings.
Champions league money on top of Ki's transfer and Lennon will probably have a couple of million to play around with. I wouldn't be surprised to see a couple of loan signings.

Dempsey

Coillte_Bhoy wrote: »

I dont think our debt is a problem or am i picking you up wrong??

Lennon stated earlier today that he doesnt know if he'll get the money to spend and its likely that the money will be used to service the clubs debts.

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/neil-lennon-wont-see-money-1271152?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

I think its spin to stop clubs holding us to ransom over potential transfers targets tbh

Coillte_Bhoy

Dempsey wrote: »

Lennon stated earlier today that he doesnt know if he'll get the money to spend and its likely that the money will be used to service the clubs debts.

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/neil-lennon-wont-see-money-1271152?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

I think its spin to stop clubs holding us to ransom over potential transfers targets tbh

Ya, makes sense, dont think we'll be spending much anyway

PauloMN

What's your take on tomorrow's game lads? Feeling confident we can do it over two legs, so long as tomorrow doesn't go disastrously wrong. Looks like they have their own problems, their on-loan goal scorer Finnbogason has just left so hopefully we can take advantage.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/19252342

Would like to see Commons start, he's got our two league goals and played well v Helsinki. Seems to be getting back similar form to when he joined us. Hooper with Commons playing off him, and Sammy out left. Bring Forrest on later depending on how things are going.

I'll go for a 1-1 draw tomorrow.

PauloMN

Coillte_Bhoy wrote: »

Ya, makes sense, dont think we'll be spending much anyway

We'll know a lot more next Wednesday night. Our season spending hinges on qualification for the CL groups. If we do, it's likely Lennon will have money for a couple of signings. If we don't, well he'll have a much reduced budget if anything.