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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,076 ✭✭✭✭Czarcasm


    Quazzie wrote: »
    I remember in school one of our teachers told us that the rings were applied to women over a number of years to lengthen the neck but also to weaken the muscle, and if they were adulterous the rings were removed and the neck would collapse paralyzing them. I never did find out if that was a myth or if there was some truth to it.


    I can't find the link to the National Geographic article where I read about them as it was in the magazine about 20 years ago when I first read about them, but this might answer your curiosity:
    For the Kayan women, the coils confer them a tribal identity, associated with beauty. In fact, the coils ensure that Kayan women will marry only inside their own tribe. The rings, once on, are seldom removed, as it is a somewhat lengthy procedure. Many thought that unfaithful women got, as a punishment, their coils removed, which led to their suffocation because their neck broke, but this is nonsense. Many women removed the coils when they felt it as obsolete or for medical examinations.


    Source: http://news.softpedia.com/news/The-Giraffe-Women-of-the-Neck-Rings-37412.shtml


    It was more or less to point out the fact that we're all getting a bit worked up here about women wearing a bit of face paint, a custom that has been acknowledged in every society and culture in the world since time immemorial, but there are far more aesthetic extremes in certain cultures that would be far more worthy of getting worked up about.

    In the western world we all get worked up about the baby feet binding in China (http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foot_binding) because it doesn't sit right with our cultural norms, yet we think nothing of the practice of having our bodies carved up and having plastics inserted or chemical peels and lipo to enhance our bodies in the pursuit of perfection and to make ourselves more attractive.

    I would think that a young girl putting on a bit of face paint should be the least of our concerns tbh.

    Had to laugh at another posters suggestion that women in their 30's and 40's even use less make up than those girls under 25 when my own mother has a "beauty regime" that would put Cleopatra to shame, and yet she still has a face like a walnut, that's not even to mention the millions of middle aged women in the western world who would put the likes of Jackie Stallone and Joan Rivers to shame with the amount of slap they put on their artificially enhanced visages! :pac:


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,388 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Czarcasm wrote: »
    In the western world we all get worked up about the baby feet binding in China (http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foot_binding) because it doesn't sit right with our cultural norms, yet we think nothing of the practice of having our bodies carved up and having plastics inserted or chemical peels and lipo to enhance our bodies in the pursuit of perfection and to make ourselves more attractive.
    Yep and we do fairly odd things ourselves. Go out of a night and try to see what the parade of women teetering on heels, wearing next to nothing in sub zero temps would look like to a passing alien. Very odd, I'd imagine.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,944 ✭✭✭✭Links234


    Wibbs wrote: »
    Yep and we do fairly odd things ourselves. Go out of a night and try to see what the parade of women teetering on heels, wearing next to nothing in sub zero temps would look like to a passing alien. Very odd, I'd imagine.

    Nothing wrong with a good pair of heels, get a comfy pair that don't hurt and you're grand

    but I agree with the wearing next to nothing thing, honestly don't understand how some women do it :eek:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,468 ✭✭✭✭OldNotWIse


    Quazzie wrote: »
    I remember in school one of our teachers told us that the rings were applied to women over a number of years to lengthen the neck but also to weaken the muscle, and if they were adulterous the rings were removed and the neck would collapse paralyzing them. I never did find out if that was a myth or if there was some truth to it.

    :eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,375 ✭✭✭✭kunst nugget


    Wibbs wrote: »
    Yep and we do fairly odd things ourselves. Go out of a night and try to see what the parade of women teetering on heels, wearing next to nothing in sub zero temps would look like to a passing alien. Very odd, I'd imagine.

    Ah, why did you have to go and mention heels. We'll be talking about that now for the next 15 pages…


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,944 ✭✭✭✭Links234


    Ah, why did you have to go and mention heels.
    Well the implication there being that wearing heels is inherently odd, or a somewhat stupid thing to do, akin to wearing skimpy clothes in winter. it's not the case, if you're wearing a decent pair that are good and comfy.
    We'll be talking about that now for the next 15 pages…

    ...and that's a bad thing? :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,987 ✭✭✭Legs.Eleven


    yet we think nothing of the practice of having our bodies carved up and having plastics inserted or chemical peels and lipo to enhance our bodies in the pursuit of perfection and to make ourselves more attractive.

    I don't we've reached the point where we think nothing of it yet though. It still shocks the hell out of me. Most women don't do these things - it's not standard practice like foot binding was in China and I'd say it's still the preserve of those with a fair bit of money.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,076 ✭✭✭✭Czarcasm


    Wibbs wrote: »
    Yep and we do fairly odd things ourselves. Go out of a night and try to see what the parade of women teetering on heels, wearing next to nothing in sub zero temps would look like to a passing alien. Very odd, I'd imagine.


    Won't hear me complaining! :p

    Links234 wrote: »

    Nothing wrong with a good pair of heels, get a comfy pair that don't hurt and you're grand

    but I agree with the wearing next to nothing thing, honestly don't understand how some women do it :eek:


    It's because Links they feel confident and attractive in clothes that they feel flatter their figure, and this can be an over-riding decision in looks vs comfort.

    Some women are as comfortable in a pair of killer heels as they are in reeboks, there's an art to walking in heels that tottering girls haven't learned, but when they do, christ there's not much sexier than a girl who can carry off a micro mini skirt and a pair of six inch louboutins! :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,944 ✭✭✭✭Links234


    Czarcasm wrote: »
    It's because Links they feel confident and attractive in clothes that they feel flatter their figure, and this can be an over-riding decision in looks vs comfort.

    Oh I do get that, I just don't get how they can put up with the cold sometimes.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,293 ✭✭✭1ZRed


    Fashion & Appearance Seriously, we only rambled on about sport for not even 3 pages.

    Nothing is so boring as talking about make up and clothes this much


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,944 ✭✭✭✭Links234


    Anyone else just tempted to keep talking about heels just to annoy 1ZRed? :p Is that a popular or unpopular opinion?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,293 ✭✭✭1ZRed


    This is why I couldn't handle having a girlfriend. I grew up without any brothers and I've done my time when it comes to this shíte! :p


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    I'll break the impasse.

    'Vaginasthatlooklikecthulhu.com' celebrated female diversity.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,779 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    Links234 wrote: »
    Anyone else just tempted to keep talking about heels just to annoy 1ZRed? :p Is that a popular or unpopular opinion?

    Take it to the George.

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,944 ✭✭✭✭Links234


    may or may not be unpopular, but I hate the George. can't stand the place and wouldn't go there if you payed me. in fact, I pretty much can't stand any gay bars, they're all so tacky and the music sucks >_<


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,779 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    Links234 wrote: »
    may or may not be unpopular, but I hate the George. can't stand the place and wouldn't go there if you payed me. in fact, I pretty much can't stand any gay bars, they're all so tacky and the music sucks >_<

    They're okay once in a while. Music in most bars sucks. In fact popular music sucks in general.

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,468 ✭✭✭✭OldNotWIse


    Links234 wrote: »
    may or may not be unpopular, but I hate the George. can't stand the place and wouldn't go there if you payed me. in fact, I pretty much can't stand any gay bars, they're all so tacky and the music sucks >_<

    I agree :o


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,222 ✭✭✭✭PopePalpatine


    Ikky Poo2 wrote: »
    They're okay once in a while. Music in most bars sucks. In fact popular music sucks in general.

    Not such an unpopular opinion there, plus it's too loud to ask someone for the shift. :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,615 ✭✭✭Fox_In_Socks


    Unpopular opinion:
    Cloud Atlas the film is better than Cloud Atlas the book.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 86 ✭✭sorsha


    Unpopular opinion:
    Cloud Atlas the film is better than Cloud Atlas the book.

    They are both disaster! :D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,222 ✭✭✭✭PopePalpatine


    Who in their right mind would like Irish trad music? It's just a sequence of jarring musical notes that add up to a big steaming pile of ****e. Whenever I think of trad, I think of a gombeen who's thicker than Tom from Father Ted.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,327 ✭✭✭Madam_X


    Links234 wrote: »
    may or may not be unpopular, but I hate the George. can't stand the place and wouldn't go there if you payed me. in fact, I pretty much can't stand any gay bars, they're all so tacky and the music sucks >_<
    They make me wonder: why is it assumed that all gay adults have the musical taste of a 12-year-old girl?

    I said to my friend why bother going to them if they're so sh1t but as he says, its not as easy to meet fellas elsewhere.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,207 ✭✭✭jaffacakesyum


    Madam_X wrote: »
    They make me wonder: why is it assumed that all gay adults have the musical taste of a 12-year-old girl?

    I said to my friend why bother going to them if they're so sh1t but as he says, its not as easy to meet fellas elsewhere.

    To be fair most popular 'straight' clubs play more or less the same music as The George. You'll have nights where the George goes more OTT and plays more tacky stereotypical 'gay' tunes, but places like Coppers play popular chart music, Britney Spears and cheesy old pop tunes as well.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,441 ✭✭✭old hippy


    Links234 wrote: »
    may or may not be unpopular, but I hate the George. can't stand the place and wouldn't go there if you payed me. in fact, I pretty much can't stand any gay bars, they're all so tacky and the music sucks >_<

    I'm not sure you would have preferred its previous incarnation, before they opened it up. It was a bit grim and had earned the name "Jurassic Park" before the much needed makeover :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,573 ✭✭✭pragmatic1


    I'm sick to death of hearing about Savita Halappanavar.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,039 ✭✭✭MJ23


    pragmatic1 wrote: »
    I'm sick to death of hearing about Savita Halappanavar.

    Yeah me too.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,659 ✭✭✭Siuin


    Humans of New York is really cheesy.
    The comments are nearly worse. Vom.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,708 ✭✭✭Curly Judge


    pragmatic1 wrote: »
    I'm sick to death of hearing about Savita Halappanavar.

    Poor Savita is sick to death too!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,457 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    Madam_X wrote: »
    They make me wonder: why is it assumed that all gay adults have the musical taste of a 12-year-old girl?

    I said to my friend why bother going to them if they're so sh1t but as he says, its not as easy to meet fellas elsewhere.

    I'd imagine that unless a guy has great gaydar or the other guy is very flamboyant it'd be hard to tell. And would probably be confusing.


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  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 12,680 Mod ✭✭✭✭artanevilla


    I think violence is the answer sometimes.


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