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Ulster Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,144 ✭✭✭Benny Cake


    Tough on Ferris but in fairness its the correct decision from the IRFU. We cant affoard to tie up too much money in a guy with such a poor history of repeat injuries.
    Shame we will proabably never see him fully deliver on the potential he showed....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,599 ✭✭✭✭CIARAN_BOYLE


    Supposedly its a one year deal he is looking at over there so he could be back for the RWC in 2015

    http://www.irishtimes.com/sport/rugby/international/japan-bound-ferris-set-to-leave-ulster-1.1324280


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,847 ✭✭✭✭bilston


    Fooker wrote: »
    I wonder how long this has been known and if it influenced the surprising decision to sign up O'Mahony..

    Ferris's injuries are more likely to have played a part than any possible move away from Ireland on Ferris's part.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,389 ✭✭✭macslash


    Supposedly its a one year deal he is looking at over there so he could be back for the RWC in 2015

    http://www.irishtimes.com/sport/rugby/international/japan-bound-ferris-set-to-leave-ulster-1.1324280

    Would that be with a view to coming back to Ulster I wonder?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,969 ✭✭✭hardCopy


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,664 ✭✭✭opinionatedfan


    Fooker wrote: »
    I wonder how long this has been known and if it influenced the surprising decision to sign up O'Mahony..

    dont make me laugh, Ferris on form even with his bollixed legs is still twice the player O'Mahony is.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,978 ✭✭✭✭irishbucsfan


    A year in Japan would be perfect for Ferris. He gets to fully recover from surgery, get a full preseason in, play at a lower level and then build himself back towards recovery.

    There are a bunch of Genia-esque physiques down there. He'll love it.

    Then he can come back to Ulster and get another full preseason in for 14/15 which will give him a full season before RWC 2015 to put himself.

    Good man Fez. Lend me some cash.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,234 ✭✭✭trouttrout


    dont make me laugh, Ferris on form even with his bollixed legs is still twice the player O'Mahony is.

    Nice potshot at POM there.

    There's not many 6's in the world who are close to Ferris when fit but for all his class, he's not much worth when he can't play due to injury

    Spell in Japan might give him a chance to get a consistent run of games so he could come back and have one more season at home


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,884 ✭✭✭✭mfceiling


    Poor Japan....just when they thought they were safe from earthquakes...


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,178 ✭✭✭Quint2010


    I don't get the Ferris love in to be honest. The guy is made of glass. He is potentially a great talent but far too injury prone to ever be able to fulfill his potential. Let him off to Japan. Ulster have not missed him this year-Henderson is better player.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,884 ✭✭✭✭mfceiling


    Quint2010 wrote: »
    I don't get the Ferris love in to be honest. The guy is made of glass. He is potentially a great talent but far too injury prone to ever be able to fulfill his potential. Let him off to Japan. Ulster have not missed him this year-Henderson is better player.

    :eek: Did you see him against australia in the World Cup. I agree he gets injured very easily but my god when he is fit he is some machine on a rugby pitch.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,664 ✭✭✭opinionatedfan


    Henderson is not a better player than Ferris, come on!


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,178 ✭✭✭Quint2010


    mfceiling wrote: »
    :eek: Did you see him against australia in the World Cup. I agree he gets injured very easily but my god when he is fit he is some machine on a rugby pitch.


    I agree but the problem is he just doesn't play enough in order to get fully up to match fitness and match tightness. He played well in the WC because he had a number of matches under his belt and was relatively injury free. I honestly would not be surprised to see him not making it as far as the next WC.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 27,571 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    Ferris is an amazing player but if you offered me one of Ferris or Henderson I'd take the latter because he's much, much more likely to be fit.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,884 ✭✭✭✭mfceiling


    Podge_irl wrote: »
    Ferris is an amazing player but if you offered me one of Ferris or Henderson I'd take the latter because he's much, much more likely to be fit.

    True...remember reading recently that ferris would have be taught to run around a player rather than through him...


  • Registered Users Posts: 462 ✭✭part time punk


    Quint2010 wrote: »
    I agree but the problem is he just doesn't play enough in order to get fully up to match fitness and match tightness. He played well in the WC because he had a number of matches under his belt and was relatively injury free. I honestly would not be surprised to see him not making it as far as the next WC.

    Think he only returned in one of the last warm up games for the world cup though. In terms of fulfilling potential, he does have 35 international caps, won a Grand Slam and played all games, Lions tourist, HCup finalist ... it's not a bad return, one most players wouldn't get, although he does probably deserve more. Hopefully some time in Japan does his body some good.


  • Registered Users Posts: 425 ✭✭CGD


    Think he only returned in one of the last warm up games for the world cup though. In terms of fulfilling potential, he does have 35 international caps, won a Grand Slam and played all games, Lions tourist, HCup finalist ... it's not a bad return, one most players wouldn't get, although he does probably deserve more. Hopefully some time in Japan does his body some good.

    Could backfire big time if he picks up injuries over there


  • Registered Users Posts: 128 ✭✭MolBee


    CGD wrote: »
    Could backfire big time if he picks up injuries over there

    If he acquires another big injury in the short time he's over there, I daresay his body is trying to tell him something and he should probably listen to it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 413 ✭✭postitnote


    I don't think where it would matter he picks up injuries. What would the kiwis call this? A sabbatical.

    At his age he can still maybe come back to be a great player, but he needs to remove himself from intense rugby for a bit.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,978 ✭✭✭✭irishbucsfan


    Just had a nice wee biannual chat with my Ulster source. He painted a very bleak picture of Ferris' future career prospects :(

    It'd be such a travesty to lose a guy THAT good.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,650 ✭✭✭ssaye




  • Registered Users Posts: 1,274 ✭✭✭RobbieRuns


    Does anyone know about any promotions/leavers or new intakes for the Ulster Academy? Normally start hearing about this time of year.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,017 ✭✭✭the_doctor199


    Returning players for Friday night and Muller back for Leinster.
    Nick Williams, Roger Wilson and Jared Payne are all expected to return to action for Ulster this week, while captain Johann Muller, is due to return a week later.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 556 ✭✭✭leonard7


    finally some good news


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,234 ✭✭✭trouttrout


    A full strength Ulster can beat a limited Saracens side so good to see the likes of Muller returning


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,847 ✭✭✭✭bilston


    Returning players for Friday night and Muller back for Leinster.

    Post of the year


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    Great news, particularly with Henderson's availability being uncertain. A Wilson, Henry, Williams backrow is definitely HEC standard.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,847 ✭✭✭✭bilston


    Schools Cup final then today. Inst v Methody. Two good backlines on show I believe, shame that the weather is crap though. MCB favourites but it should be a good game. For those not going or in the South the match is on BBC2 NI at 3pm.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,599 ✭✭✭✭CIARAN_BOYLE


    Returning players for Friday night and Muller back for Leinster.
    Good to hear. Ulster will have some strength available come the QF. Anyword yet on henderson??


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 556 ✭✭✭leonard7


    come on Methody!!! haha


  • Administrators Posts: 54,256 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec


    Will be watching it indeed. Come on RBAI, just for the sake of variety. :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,017 ✭✭✭the_doctor199


    Would anyone else agree it's best to rest Luke Marshall on Friday, even if he recovers from the bash to the head? I don't think we can afford to have him miss the Leinster/Sarries game with Wallace injured.

    Not sure who would play in his place though, maybe Andrews at 15 and Payne at centre?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,847 ✭✭✭✭bilston


    Would anyone else agree it's best to rest Luke Marshall on Friday, even if he recovers from the bash to the head? I don't think we can afford to have him miss the Leinster/Sarries game with Wallace injured.

    Not sure who would play in his place though, maybe Andrews at 15 and Payne at centre?

    I dont think the internationals will be available anyway so he would be rested no matter what. Olding to 12 and Payne at 15 for me although maybe Olding will be needed at 10?

    By the way Peter Nelson played 10 for Dungannon on Sat and scored 21 points which is good to hear.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,847 ✭✭✭✭bilston


    leonard7 wrote: »
    come on Methody!!! haha

    Inst Inst Ancient and Royal!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,017 ✭✭✭the_doctor199


    bilston wrote: »
    I dont think the internationals will be available anyway so he would be rested no matter what. Olding to 12 and Payne at 15 for me although maybe Olding will be needed at 10?

    By the way Peter Nelson played 10 for Dungannon on Sat and scored 21 points which is good to hear.

    Totally forgot about Olding, good call.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,883 ✭✭✭shuffol


    bilston wrote: »
    I dont think the internationals will be available anyway so he would be rested no matter what. Olding to 12 and Payne at 15 for me although maybe Olding will be needed at 10?

    By the way Peter Nelson played 10 for Dungannon on Sat and scored 21 points which is good to hear.

    Seem to remember his kicking being a bit dodge for the u-20s last season, looked much more comfortable at 13 but another center is the last thing Ulster need.


  • Administrators Posts: 54,256 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec


    bilston wrote: »
    I dont think the internationals will be available anyway so he would be rested no matter what. Olding to 12 and Payne at 15 for me although maybe Olding will be needed at 10?

    By the way Peter Nelson played 10 for Dungannon on Sat and scored 21 points which is good to hear.
    Does that include the likes of Paul Marshall? Could we see him at 9 and RP at 10?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,847 ✭✭✭✭bilston


    awec wrote: »
    Does that include the likes of Paul Marshall? Could we see him at 9 and RP at 10?

    Usually just the starters so Marshall should be ok to play.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,234 ✭✭✭trouttrout


    Will Olding start the quarter final now? Looks a serious prospect


  • Administrators Posts: 54,256 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec


    trouttrout wrote: »
    Will Olding start the quarter final now? Looks a serious prospect
    Depends who is fit I would say, don't think he's quite first choice yet.

    Great bench option mind!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,847 ✭✭✭✭bilston


    trouttrout wrote: »
    Will Olding start the quarter final now? Looks a serious prospect

    If Marshall is out then yes probably. You're he is a great talent, still only 19.


  • Administrators Posts: 54,256 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec


    When is Bowe due back, out of interest?


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,708 ✭✭✭ScissorPaperRock


    bilston wrote: »
    If Marshall is out then yes probably. You're he is a great talent, still only 19.

    Can he play 13 at all?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,847 ✭✭✭✭bilston



    Can he play 13 at all?

    He played there for the 20s last year and did well so why not.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,017 ✭✭✭the_doctor199


    awec wrote: »
    When is Bowe due back, out of interest?

    End of April, I think.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,059 ✭✭✭Sinbad_NI


    Anyone know if this weekend's match is televised. Can't see it anywhere?

    Great to hear some big players coming back. Will need as many of them as possible to get a shot at either cup this year.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,718 ✭✭✭Taco Corp


    Sinbad_NI wrote: »
    Anyone know if this weekend's match is televised. Can't see it anywhere?

    Great to hear some big players coming back. Will need as many of them as possible to get a shot at either cup this year.
    no host broadcaster listed on the rabo fixtures list so probably not going to be on unless there's a last minute change
    http://www.rabodirectpro12.com/matchcentre/fixtures_list.php


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,017 ✭✭✭the_doctor199


    If it's not live, surely it'll be on the red button then?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,599 ✭✭✭✭CIARAN_BOYLE


    trouttrout wrote: »
    Will Olding start the quarter final now? Looks a serious prospect
    If Marshall is out then Olding could well start.

    Payne, Trimble and Bowe (will he be back??) can play center but none of them have played 12 and Cave doesn't have much experience there afaik. Jackson can play 12 and Pienaar can play 10 but thats too many positional changes for my thinking.

    Of the options available Olding at 12 looks the best to me.
    If it's not live, surely it'll be on the red button then?
    Don't think so


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,906 ✭✭✭jamiedav2011


    If Marshall is out then Olding could well start.

    Payne, Trimble and Bowe (will he be back??) can play center but none of them have played 12 and Cave doesn't have much experience there afaik. Jackson can play 12 and Pienaar can play 10 but thats too many positional changes for my thinking.

    Of the options available Olding at 12 looks the best to me.


    Don't think so


    Olding at 12 would be a bold but warranted move.
    He's looked excellent at Rabo level so far, but defending against Barrit would be another step up.

    What do Ulster posters see as his long term position?
    Challenging Jackson at 10 or further out?


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