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  • #302
    UrbanSea
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    jayroyal wrote: »
    I just can't see how someone would have sent a mare to Duke of Marmalade, :eek:, never would appeal as a stallion to me.

    A top class son of Danehill who has a brilliant American pedigree through his damline: Family of sires Lemon Drop Kid,champion A.P Indy, Statue of Liberty who briefly stood at Coolmore and Wolfhound. The amount of group 1 winners in his extended pedigree is extraordinary, perhaps his will improve with age, after all he was 4 before he won his first group 1


  • #303
    Colonel Sanders
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    Nulty wrote: »
    Vinnie Roe is a stallion who's progeny is just coming to maturity over jumps. I noticed Our Vinnie is running at Cheltenham this afternoon. They seem to be all 5 going on 6 this season. Anyone think he will ascend to near the top of the sires championship in the next few years?

    Not a great race but one of his sons almost landed a Byrnes gamble at Gowran today. 16/1 in the morning into 4/1SP. Beat by a rag with a Betfair SP of over 200/1.

    A few of the lads told me to back it on the basis of a huge step up in trip & Russell being booked to ride. I didn't FWIW


  • #304
    UrbanSea
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    Thought it was strange Colonel that they gambled it in a maiden and not a handicap next time out


  • #305
    Colonel Sanders
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    UrbanSea wrote: »
    Thought it was strange Colonel that they gambled it in a maiden and not a handicap next time out

    Was thinking the same although maybe it was double bluff

    I remember a guy telling me Stuart Williams was lethal for that. 2nd or 3rd run in a maiden, you think they're just getting him handicapped & that's when he goes for it

    He was stepping massively up in trip & Russell was booked


  • #306
    UrbanSea
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    I don't trust Byrnes further than I'd throw him. Does anyone remember that bumper years ago where he had the first two home? Think the first one had been well backed, but the second one absolutely cruised all over it, jockey pretended to hit him and got him beat,Byrnes got away with it because he told the stewards that wasn't how he told him to ride it


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  • #307
    jayroyal
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    UrbanSea wrote: »
    A top class son of Danehill who has a brilliant American pedigree through his damline: Family of sires Lemon Drop Kid,champion A.P Indy, Statue of Liberty who briefly stood at Coolmore and Wolfhound. The amount of group 1 winners in his extended pedigree is extraordinary, perhaps his will improve with age, after all he was 4 before he won his first group 1

    Yes of course he has a great page but to stand for 40,000 euro in his first year was crazy. He beat a poor New Approach in Newmarket(times suggest new approach was below par). Also Finsceal beo as a four year old when she had lost her spark. I feel him been so late to come to hand, suggests his prodigy would be similar and in general that's a bit late.


  • #308
    UrbanSea
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    It's not really about what he beat though. He had the looks and the pedigree, but as you say a 4 year old is very late. 40,000 was plenty to pay, but Coolmore like any good stud farm will make sure they make their money on a stallion before the prodigy race in case he proves disappointing. Footstepsinthesand springs to mind, Dylan Thomas at 35.

    I know he's a very good stallion, but the best business move Coolmore have made in many a year is getting mares sent to Giant's Causeway at 100,000 punts his first year at stud.

    Does anyone know what that would equate to in today's money?


  • #309
    jayroyal
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    UrbanSea wrote: »
    It's not really about what he beat though. He had the looks and the pedigree, but as you say a 4 year old is very late. 40,000 was plenty to pay, but Coolmore like any good stud farm will make sure they make their money on a stallion before the prodigy race in case he proves disappointing. Footstepsinthesand springs to mind, Dylan Thomas at 35.

    I know he's a very good stallion, but the best business move Coolmore have made in many a year is getting mares sent to Giant's Causeway at 100,000 punts his first year at stud.

    Does anyone know what that would equate to in today's money?

    Wow that's an amazing fee , maybe it was the whole craze around Storm Cat and the fact he was a superb racehorse on turf and dirt. He went up from USD75,000 to USD200,000 in 2004 then USD300,000 the following year 2005.


  • #310
    dave3004
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    UrbanSea wrote: »
    Was looking at the Derby yearling entries. Lots of Sea the Stars, Godolphin have plenty of them

    I'm still scratching my head over Dubawi at 75k. Looking at the entries it only looks like Godolhpin using him and these foals would have been at the cheaper rate.

    Sea the Stars-Look Here caught the eye so too did Sea The Stars-Vodka. Not a bad number of Danehill Dancers but not one of them being Coolmore owned. Galileo and Montjeu obviously very popular, literally one or two Mastercraftsman. Don't even remember seeing a Dylan Thomas or Duke of Marmalade. Can't see them hanging around Coolmore for much longer. Fastnet Rock-My Emma another who caught the eye

    Lots of Dylan Thomas's running over 6 and 7f in singapore / HK. Mr Armstrong won 2nyt and is outta Dylan Thomas.


  • #311
    UrbanSea
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    A little quiz.


    Guess what number Galileo is in terms of prize money this year (world wide)


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  • #312
    Nulty
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    UrbanSea wrote: »
    A little quiz.


    Guess what number Galileo is in terms of prize money this year (world wide)

    First?

    Wait actually, Monterosso won the World Cup so maybe Dubawi is close up..?


  • #313
    UrbanSea
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    Incorrect Nulty. What prize money over in Japan

    This is a few months old, new table has Galileo 20th.


    # Stallion Country Earnings Earnings Earnings Earnings
    1 Deep Impact (JPN)
    Japan $60,171,227
    2 King Kamehameha (JPN)
    Japan $55,242,305
    3 Symboli Kris S
    Japan $28,324,637
    4 Kurofune
    Japan $27,585,765
    5 Stay Gold (JPN)
    Japan $27,229,472
    6 Fuji Kiseki (JPN)
    Japan $25,369,713
    7 Daiwa Major (JPN)
    Japan $22,334,182
    8 Agnes Tachyon (JPN)
    Japan $20,431,136
    9 Gold Allure (JPN)
    Japan $19,979,842
    10 Manhattan Cafe (JPN)
    Japan $19,572,378
    11 Neo Universe (JPN)
    Japan $19,209,630
    12 Sakura Bakushin O (JPN)
    Japan $18,965,026
    13 Heart's Cry (JPN)
    Japan $18,806,847
    14 Zenno Rob Roy (JPN)
    Japan $17,853,757
    15 Roses in May
    Japan $15,933,168
    16 Special Week (JPN)
    Japan $14,003,999
    17 Empire Maker
    Japan $13,628,205
    18 Galileo (IRE)
    Ireland $13,407,492
    19 Tanino Gimlet (JPN)
    Japan $13,208,244
    20 Dance in the Dark (JPN)
    Japan $12,990,433


  • #314
    UrbanSea
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    Choisir back in Ireland at 10k looks a good move, fifth group one winner for him last night in Down Under and with the success of Olympic Glory last year will get some nice mares.

    Another stakes winner for Holy Roman. doing very well


  • #315
    UrbanSea
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    Most Improved bought by Coolmore and will run for them next season. Thought it was a strange purchase


  • #316
    Nulty
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    RichieLawlessness wrote: »
    Most Improved bought by Coolmore and will run for them next season. Thought it was a strange purchase

    Do they have anything in the older horse division other than Camelot over that distance? Most Improved is a 10f horse, isn't he?


  • #317
    UrbanSea
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    Won the St James over a mile, been a bit inconsistent, would have ran well in the french derby if he hadn't been so badly blocked like half the field


  • #318
    Overthelast
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    Frankel begins his stallion career this Friday (14th of Feb!) at Banstead Manor Stud. 135 mares booked this season @ £125k each.


  • #319
    Colonel Sanders
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    Read this on Betfair:
    We're all probably familiar with the foal share agreement between Juddmonte and Coolmore, but I didn't realise that Kind was one of ten mares originally due to visit Sadler's Wells. When he became ill, Juddmonte agreed to switch those ten mares to the best two stallions available, which at that time were Montjeu and Galileo. Phillip Mitchell is quoted as saying "If I'm honest, she would probably never have visited Galileo unless she was part of that package". When it comes to deciding who chooses the resultant foals of those mares, both Coolmore and Juddmonte independently grade the ten foals and on an alternate picks basis, select their five. That year, it was Juddmonte's turn to have first pick and chose the Galileo - Kind colt whom they had listed as their number one choice.

    The rest, as they say, is history but we should be thankful that we didn't end up with another Bullet Train.........


  • #320
    Overthelast
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    There is a bit more to the agreement. Read it at the weekend (cannot remember which paper but its from the same article).

    If Juddmonte or Coolmore land a "lucky" one ie one of the foals turns out to be a superstar, then the other Operation shouldn't get punished just because they didn't have first pick that year. So they get 10 free nominations with that Stallion. A consolation I suppose.


    Edit - Found it, article by David Walsh, Sunday Times Sports Section 10.02.13.


  • #321
    sting60
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    Colonel Sanders wrote: »
    Read this on Betfair:
    Coolmore have plenty of Bullet Trains indeed for their massive Investments over the last few years they have more Bullet Trains than Frankels.Indeed they [Coolmore ]seem to have had a lot of horses that want a trip ie 1 1/2m and more which tend to end up as NH stallions.People are backing Kingsbarns to win the Guineas where in my opinion he has no chance unless its heavy.He has the most exaggerated knee action I have ever seen and will need a trip to be at his best on soft or worse.Another horse for the three mile chase stallion arena.


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  • #322
    UrbanSea
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    How anyone can back a racing post trophy winner ante post for the Guineas is genuinely beyond me.Some of the mares Frankel will cover

    Group/Grade 1 winners and producers confirmed to date:

    Mare Summary
    AFRICAN ROSE Won Sprint Cup Gr.1
    ALBANOVA Won Preis von Europa Gr.1, Deutschland Preis Gr.1 and Rheinland Pokal Gr.1; sister to ALBORADA, winner of Champion Stakes Gr.1
    ALEXANDER GOLDRUN Champion Older Mare in Ireland 2005, won Nassau Stakes Gr.1, Pretty Polly Stakes Gr.1 (twice), Prix de l'Opera Casino Barriere Enghien Gr.1 and Cathay Pacific Hong Kong Cup Gr.1
    ALWAJEEHA Won Queen Elizabeth II Challenge Cup Stakes Gr.1
    ARRIVE Broodmare of the Year in Great Britain 2008, dam of PROMISING LEAD, winner of Pretty Polly Stakes Gr.1
    ASPIRING DIVA Dam of EMULOUS, winner of Matron Stakes Gr.1
    BALANCE Won Santa Margarita Invitational Handicap Gr.1, Santa Anita Oaks Gr.1, Las Virgenes Stakes Gr.1); half sister to ZENYATTA (Champion Older Mare in USA 2008, 2009, 2010)
    BINCHE Broodmare of the Year in Great Britain 2010; dam of PROVISO, winner of Diana Stakes Gr.1, Frank E Kilroe Mile Handicap Gr.1, Just a Game Stakes Gr.1 and First Lady Stakes Gr.1; also dam of BYWORD, winner of Prince of Wales Stakes Gr.1
    CLEPSYDRA Dam of PASSAGE OF TIME, winner of Criterium de St Cloud Gr.1; also dam of TIMEPIECE, winner of Falmouth Stakes Gr.1
    DANCING RAIN Won Epsom Oaks Gr.1 and Henkel Preis der Diana Gr.1
    DANEDREAM Won King George VI & Queen Elizabeth Stakes Gr.1, Prix de l'Arc de Triomphe Gr.1, Grosser Preis von Baden Gr.1 (twice) and Grosser Preis von Berlin Gr.1
    DAR RE MI Won Pretty Polly Stakes Gr.1, Yorkshire Oaks Gr.1 and Dubai Sheema Classic Gr.1
    DIARY Dam of TOTAL GALLERY, winner of Prix de l'Abbaye de Longchamp Gr.1
    DIVINE PROPORTIONS Champion 2YO Filly in Europe 2004, won Prix Marcel Boussac Gr.1, Poule d'Essai des Pouliches Gr.1, Prix d'Astarte Gr.1, Prix de Diane Gr.1 and Prix Morny Gr.1
    DYNAFORCE Won Flower Bowl Invitational Stakes Gr.1 and Beverly D Stakes Gr.1
    EDEN'S CAUSEWAY Dam of EDEN'S MOON, winner of Las Virgenes Stakes Gr.1
    EDEN'S MOON Won Las Virgenes Stakes Gr.1
    EMULOUS Won Matron Stakes Gr.1
    ETOILE MONTANTE Won Prix de la Foret Gr.1
    FALLEN STAR Dam of FALLEN FOR YOU, winner of Coronation Stakes Gr.1
    FLIRTATION Dam of ATTRACTION, winner of Coronation Stakes Gr.1, Irish 1000 Guineas Gr.1, 1000 Guineas (Group 1), Sun Chariot Stakes (Group 1) and Matron Stakes Gr.1
    GIOFRA Won Falmouth Stakes Gr.1
    HEAT HAZE Won Matriarch Stakes Gr.1 and Beverly D Stakes Gr.1
    HONORINE Dam of TREASURE BEACH, Champion 3YO Colt in Ireland 2011, winner of Irish Derby Gr.1 and Secretariat Stakes Gr.1
    HURRY HOME HILLARY Dam of BELLAMY ROAD, winner of Wood Memorial Stakes Gr.1
    ICON PROJECT Won Personal Ensign Stakes Gr.1
    IN LINGERIE Won Spinster Stakes Gr.1
    LADY VETTORI Dam of LOPE DE VEGA, winner of Poule d'Essai des Poulains Gr.1 and Prix du Jockey Club Gr.1
    LAHALEEB Won E P Taylor Stakes Gr.1
    LAHUDOOD Won Flower Bowl Invitational Stakes Gr.1 and Breeders' Cup Filly and Mare Turf Gr.1
    LIGHTENING PEARL Won Cheveley Park Stakes Gr.1
    MAYCOCKS BAY Dam of SARISKA (Champion 3YO Filly in Europe 2009), winner of Irish Oaks Gr.1 and Epsom Oaks Gr.1
    MI SUENO Won Del Mar Debutante Stakes Gr.1
    MIDDAY Won Breeders' Cup Fillies and Mare Turf Gr.1, Naussau Stakes Gr.1 (three times), Yorkshire Oaks Gr.1 and Prix Vermeille Gr.1
    MIDSUMMER Dam of MIDDAY, winner of Breeders' Cup Fillies and Mare Turf Gr.1, Nassau Stakes Gr.1 (three times), Yorkshire Oaks Gr.1 and Prix Vermeille Gr.1
    MISS KELLER Won EP Taylor Stakes Gr.1
    NEBRASKA TORNADO Won Prix de Diane Gr.1 and Prix du Moulin de Longchamp Gr.1
    MODEL QUEEN Dam of REGAL PARADE, winner of Haydock Sprint Cup Gr.1
    MUSICAL TREAT Dam of FINSCEAL BEO (Champion 2YO Filly in Europe 2006), winner of Irish 1000 Guineas Gr.1, 1000 Guineas Gr.1 and Prix Marcel Boussac Gr.1
    OATSEE Broodmare of the Year in USA, dam of SHACKLEFORD, winner of Metropolitan Handicap Gr.1, Preakness Stakes Gr.1 and Clark Handicap Gr.1; also dam of LADY JOANNE, winner of Alabama Stakes Gr.1
    PENNE Dam of MEANDRE, winner of Grand Prix de Paris Gr.1, Grand Prix de Saint-Cloud Gr.1 and Grosser Preis von Berlin Gr.1
    PROPORTIONAL Won Prix Marcel Boussac Gr.1
    QUEEN'S LOGIC Champion 2YO Filly in Europe 2001, won Cheveley Park Stakes Gr.1
    QUEST TO PEAK Dam of SPECIAL DUTY, winner of 1000 Guineas Gr.1, Poule d'Essai des Pouliches Gr.1 and Cheveley Park Stakes Gr.1
    RED BLOOM Won Fillies' Mile Gr.1
    ROSE OF SUMMER Dam of LARAGH, winner of Hollywood Starlet Stakes Gr.1
    SOIGNEE Dam of STACELITA (Champion 3YO Filly in France 2009), winner of Prix de Diane Gr.1, Prix Saint-Alary Gr.1, Prix Vermeille Gr.1, Prix Jean Romanet Gr.1, Flower Bowl Invitational Stakes Gr.1 and Beverly D Stakes Gr.1
    STACELITA Champion 3YO Filly in France 2009, won Prix de Diane Gr.1, Prix Saint-Alary Gr.1, Prix Vermeille Gr.1, Prix Jean Romanet Gr.1, Flower Bowl Invitational Stakes Gr.1 and Beverly D Stakes Gr.1
    STRAIGHT LASS Dam of NAAQOOS, winner of Prix Jean Luc Lagardere Gr.1
    TARIYSHA Dam of ARCANO, winner of Prix Morny Gr.1
    TAROCCHI Dam of PRICE TAG, winner of Matriarch Stakes Gr.1
    TIMEPIECE Won Falmouth Stakes Gr.1
    VODKA Champion 2YO Filly in Japan 2006, Champion Older Mare in Japan 2008 & 2009, won Autumn Emperor's Cup Gr.1, Japan Cup Gr.1, Yasuda Kinen Gr.1 (twice) and Victoria Mile Gr.1
    WALDMARK Dam of MASKED MARVEL (Champion 3YO Stayer in Europe 2011), winner of St Leger Stakes Gr.1
    ZAGORA Won Diana Stakes Gr.1 and Breeders' Cup Filly and Mare Turf Gr.1
    ZEE ZEE TOP Won Prix de l'Opera Gr.1; dam of IZZI TOP, winner of Pretty Polly Stakes Gr.1
    ZOMARADAH Champion 3YO in Italy 1998, Champion Older Mare in Italy 1999, won Oaks d'Italia Gr.1; dam of DUBAWI, Top Rated 3YO Miler in Ireland & France 2005, winner of Irish 2000 Guineas Gr.1, National Stakes Gr.1 and Prix Jacques Le Marois Gr.1


  • #323
    sting60
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    RichieLawlessness wrote: »
    How anyone can back a racing post trophy winner ante post for the Guineas is genuinely beyond me.Some of the mares Frankel will cover

    Group/Grade 1 winners and producers confirmed to date:

    Mare Summary
    AFRICAN ROSE Won Sprint Cup Gr.1
    ALBANOVA Won Preis von Europa Gr.1, Deutschland Preis Gr.1 and Rheinland Pokal Gr.1; sister to ALBORADA, winner of Champion Stakes Gr.1
    ALEXANDER GOLDRUN Champion Older Mare in Ireland 2005, won Nassau Stakes Gr.1, Pretty Polly Stakes Gr.1 (twice), Prix de l'Opera Casino Barriere Enghien Gr.1 and Cathay Pacific Hong Kong Cup Gr.1
    ALWAJEEHA Won Queen Elizabeth II Challenge Cup Stakes Gr.1
    ARRIVE Broodmare of the Year in Great Britain 2008, dam of PROMISING LEAD, winner of Pretty Polly Stakes Gr.1
    ASPIRING DIVA Dam of EMULOUS, winner of Matron Stakes Gr.1
    BALANCE Won Santa Margarita Invitational Handicap Gr.1, Santa Anita Oaks Gr.1, Las Virgenes Stakes Gr.1); half sister to ZENYATTA (Champion Older Mare in USA 2008, 2009, 2010)
    BINCHE Broodmare of the Year in Great Britain 2010; dam of PROVISO, winner of Diana Stakes Gr.1, Frank E Kilroe Mile Handicap Gr.1, Just a Game Stakes Gr.1 and First Lady Stakes Gr.1; also dam of BYWORD, winner of Prince of Wales Stakes Gr.1
    CLEPSYDRA Dam of PASSAGE OF TIME, winner of Criterium de St Cloud Gr.1; also dam of TIMEPIECE, winner of Falmouth Stakes Gr.1
    DANCING RAIN Won Epsom Oaks Gr.1 and Henkel Preis der Diana Gr.1
    DANEDREAM Won King George VI & Queen Elizabeth Stakes Gr.1, Prix de l'Arc de Triomphe Gr.1, Grosser Preis von Baden Gr.1 (twice) and Grosser Preis von Berlin Gr.1
    DAR RE MI Won Pretty Polly Stakes Gr.1, Yorkshire Oaks Gr.1 and Dubai Sheema Classic Gr.1
    DIARY Dam of TOTAL GALLERY, winner of Prix de l'Abbaye de Longchamp Gr.1
    DIVINE PROPORTIONS Champion 2YO Filly in Europe 2004, won Prix Marcel Boussac Gr.1, Poule d'Essai des Pouliches Gr.1, Prix d'Astarte Gr.1, Prix de Diane Gr.1 and Prix Morny Gr.1
    DYNAFORCE Won Flower Bowl Invitational Stakes Gr.1 and Beverly D Stakes Gr.1
    EDEN'S CAUSEWAY Dam of EDEN'S MOON, winner of Las Virgenes Stakes Gr.1
    EDEN'S MOON Won Las Virgenes Stakes Gr.1
    EMULOUS Won Matron Stakes Gr.1
    ETOILE MONTANTE Won Prix de la Foret Gr.1
    FALLEN STAR Dam of FALLEN FOR YOU, winner of Coronation Stakes Gr.1
    FLIRTATION Dam of ATTRACTION, winner of Coronation Stakes Gr.1, Irish 1000 Guineas Gr.1, 1000 Guineas (Group 1), Sun Chariot Stakes (Group 1) and Matron Stakes Gr.1
    GIOFRA Won Falmouth Stakes Gr.1
    HEAT HAZE Won Matriarch Stakes Gr.1 and Beverly D Stakes Gr.1
    HONORINE Dam of TREASURE BEACH, Champion 3YO Colt in Ireland 2011, winner of Irish Derby Gr.1 and Secretariat Stakes Gr.1
    HURRY HOME HILLARY Dam of BELLAMY ROAD, winner of Wood Memorial Stakes Gr.1
    ICON PROJECT Won Personal Ensign Stakes Gr.1
    IN LINGERIE Won Spinster Stakes Gr.1
    LADY VETTORI Dam of LOPE DE VEGA, winner of Poule d'Essai des Poulains Gr.1 and Prix du Jockey Club Gr.1
    LAHALEEB Won E P Taylor Stakes Gr.1
    LAHUDOOD Won Flower Bowl Invitational Stakes Gr.1 and Breeders' Cup Filly and Mare Turf Gr.1
    LIGHTENING PEARL Won Cheveley Park Stakes Gr.1
    MAYCOCKS BAY Dam of SARISKA (Champion 3YO Filly in Europe 2009), winner of Irish Oaks Gr.1 and Epsom Oaks Gr.1
    MI SUENO Won Del Mar Debutante Stakes Gr.1
    MIDDAY Won Breeders' Cup Fillies and Mare Turf Gr.1, Naussau Stakes Gr.1 (three times), Yorkshire Oaks Gr.1 and Prix Vermeille Gr.1
    MIDSUMMER Dam of MIDDAY, winner of Breeders' Cup Fillies and Mare Turf Gr.1, Nassau Stakes Gr.1 (three times), Yorkshire Oaks Gr.1 and Prix Vermeille Gr.1
    MISS KELLER Won EP Taylor Stakes Gr.1
    NEBRASKA TORNADO Won Prix de Diane Gr.1 and Prix du Moulin de Longchamp Gr.1
    MODEL QUEEN Dam of REGAL PARADE, winner of Haydock Sprint Cup Gr.1
    MUSICAL TREAT Dam of FINSCEAL BEO (Champion 2YO Filly in Europe 2006), winner of Irish 1000 Guineas Gr.1, 1000 Guineas Gr.1 and Prix Marcel Boussac Gr.1
    OATSEE Broodmare of the Year in USA, dam of SHACKLEFORD, winner of Metropolitan Handicap Gr.1, Preakness Stakes Gr.1 and Clark Handicap Gr.1; also dam of LADY JOANNE, winner of Alabama Stakes Gr.1
    PENNE Dam of MEANDRE, winner of Grand Prix de Paris Gr.1, Grand Prix de Saint-Cloud Gr.1 and Grosser Preis von Berlin Gr.1
    PROPORTIONAL Won Prix Marcel Boussac Gr.1
    QUEEN'S LOGIC Champion 2YO Filly in Europe 2001, won Cheveley Park Stakes Gr.1
    QUEST TO PEAK Dam of SPECIAL DUTY, winner of 1000 Guineas Gr.1, Poule d'Essai des Pouliches Gr.1 and Cheveley Park Stakes Gr.1
    RED BLOOM Won Fillies' Mile Gr.1
    ROSE OF SUMMER Dam of LARAGH, winner of Hollywood Starlet Stakes Gr.1
    SOIGNEE Dam of STACELITA (Champion 3YO Filly in France 2009), winner of Prix de Diane Gr.1, Prix Saint-Alary Gr.1, Prix Vermeille Gr.1, Prix Jean Romanet Gr.1, Flower Bowl Invitational Stakes Gr.1 and Beverly D Stakes Gr.1
    STACELITA Champion 3YO Filly in France 2009, won Prix de Diane Gr.1, Prix Saint-Alary Gr.1, Prix Vermeille Gr.1, Prix Jean Romanet Gr.1, Flower Bowl Invitational Stakes Gr.1 and Beverly D Stakes Gr.1
    STRAIGHT LASS Dam of NAAQOOS, winner of Prix Jean Luc Lagardere Gr.1
    TARIYSHA Dam of ARCANO, winner of Prix Morny Gr.1
    TAROCCHI Dam of PRICE TAG, winner of Matriarch Stakes Gr.1
    TIMEPIECE Won Falmouth Stakes Gr.1
    VODKA Champion 2YO Filly in Japan 2006, Champion Older Mare in Japan 2008 & 2009, won Autumn Emperor's Cup Gr.1, Japan Cup Gr.1, Yasuda Kinen Gr.1 (twice) and Victoria Mile Gr.1
    WALDMARK Dam of MASKED MARVEL (Champion 3YO Stayer in Europe 2011), winner of St Leger Stakes Gr.1
    ZAGORA Won Diana Stakes Gr.1 and Breeders' Cup Filly and Mare Turf Gr.1
    ZEE ZEE TOP Won Prix de l'Opera Gr.1; dam of IZZI TOP, winner of Pretty Polly Stakes Gr.1
    ZOMARADAH Champion 3YO in Italy 1998, Champion Older Mare in Italy 1999, won Oaks d'Italia Gr.1; dam of DUBAWI, Top Rated 3YO Miler in Ireland & France 2005, winner of Irish 2000 Guineas Gr.1, National Stakes Gr.1 and Prix Jacques Le Marois Gr.1
    Mother of god that is some book of mares.Its jaw dropping to be honest.How many of those mares have Coolmore lost,trouble on the way me thinks.


  • #324
    UrbanSea
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    Think Sea the Stars got just as nice ones. Interesting to see Vodka go to Frankel as well as Sea the Stars. Those foals would sell for a small fortune I'd say


  • #325
    sting60
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    RichieLawlessness wrote: »
    Think Sea the Stars got just as nice ones. Interesting to see Vodka go to Frankel as well as Sea the Stars. Those foals would sell for a small fortune I'd say
    Went over the list and there is not one average mare in it.Just to try and pick one I will opt for Danedream[unproven]and Midsummer[proven].


  • #326
    UrbanSea
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    Coolmore sending them 15 of their own.


    Just who are Coolmore going to use for all those daughters of Galileo they have? They can't outsource them all, Fastnet Rock to get some very nice mares maybe??


  • #327
    Robson99
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    Just wondering what ye guys think of Barathea as a broodmare sire


  • #328
    UrbanSea
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    Robson99 wrote: »
    Just wondering what ye guys think of Barathea as a broodmare sire

    Very solid, consistently in the top 20 broodmare sires in the UK and Ireland. Not many top class horses but they are tough and tend to be genuine


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    sting60
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    Program last night on BBC radio "Frankel at stud".Firstly I think the hype has become a little Beckhamesk.His book of mares is 135 with inital 220 requests at 125k a pop.His first official marel[after test mare] is Midday at 12 noon today[she currently has a Galileo foal].He is boxed beside Oasis dream and Dansili and Philip Mitchell was asked if he is a hit what price could he go to and his reply was "Dansili started at 8k and is now 80k".There are no plans to go to Australia but we are currently in talks about Australian mares comming here when their time is right.Head auctioneer at tattersalls Newmarket was asked if the unlikely event of a first crop Frankel yearling was put up for sale what would he fetch"very minimum starting bid of 300k and then sit back at watch".


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    faoile@n
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    I wonder would I get a price on Frankel being a flop at stud?

    No group 1 winner in the first 2/3 crops or something?


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    UrbanSea
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    You'd probably get **** odds


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