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Ireland u20 2013 6 nations and junior world cup

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  • #212
    thebaz
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    bah06 wrote: »
    daly is a very good kicker. Kicks for leinster 20s and lansdowne 1sts

    is it the same daly who scored the tries at last years u20 WC ?


  • #213
    Hagz
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    thebaz wrote: »
    is it the same daly who scored the tries at last years u20 WC ?

    No that's Barry Daly, plays for UCD.


  • #214
    Rugbyharry
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    I would guess at this being a potential starting team..

    1. Peter Dooley
    2. George McGuigan
    3. Jake Caulfield
    4. John Donnan
    4. Gavin Thornbury
    6. Conor Joyce
    7. Josh Van der Flier
    8. Ryan Murphy
    9. Luke McGrath
    10. Steve Crosbie
    11. Rory Scholes
    12. Stuart Olding
    13. Thomas Daly
    14. Alex O'Meara
    15. David Panther


  • #215
    ormond lad
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    .ak wrote: »
    Yep Adam Byrne has a broken ankle. Pity, he's 20 isn't he?
    not 19 yet. is a 94
    GerM wrote: »
    Only 3 returning players makes for one of the weakest looking sides in a few years. We'll have to see how it plays out. Great to see a stronger representation from Munster. Can only bode well for the future if all the provinces are producing.
    weak on paper hopefully they can come up under the radar and do well
    Great to see a stronger munster representation after several years where we only had 3rd or 4th most representatives
    Hagz wrote: »
    My stab at the starting XV

    1. Peter Dooley
    2. George McGuigan
    3. Jake Caulfield
    4. Sean McCarthy
    5. Gavin Thornbury
    6. Conor Joyce
    7. Josh Van der Flier
    8. Ryan Murphy
    9. Luke McGrath
    10. Stuart Olding
    11. Alex O'Meara
    12. Thomas Daly
    13. Rory Scannell
    14. Darren Sweetnam
    15. Rory Scholes
    cant see Murphy at 8. shame there is a handful of injuries to players who prob would be starting if fit


  • #216
    Hagz
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    ormond lad wrote: »
    cant see Murphy at 8. shame there is a handful of injuries to players who prob would be starting if fit

    Why not? He's been playing for the Munster A side and is in the academy whereas Timmins is a year younger (open to correction) and isn't even in an academy.


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  • #217
    peterdonald90
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9 ✭peterdonald90


    injuries are giving other kids a chance, hopefully some of them make a name for themselves.

    the half back pairing of mcgrath and olding are pretty highly rated

    Leinster's full academy players eligible for this years team:
    Byrne twins(injured)
    Thornbury
    Leavy(injured)
    Van Der Flier
    McGrath
    Byrne(injured)


  • #218
    ormond lad
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    Hagz wrote: »
    Why not? He's been playing for the Munster A side and is in the academy whereas Timmins is a year younger (open to correction) and isn't even in an academy.
    Just from talking to some people whove seen him play regularly enough and they do not rate him to be at that level.
    ive only seen him once and am only going on the opinion of others.


  • #219
    irishbucsfan
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    There are some very very classy players kicking around this team. Not so many stars but I can't wait to see Olding and McGrath on the field together. Potential for a class back row as well when Leavy gets fit, Murphy is supposed to be great.

    Looking forward to seeing Rory Scholes, he's been around for ages now so I'm interested to see what he can actually do.


  • #220
    peterdonald90
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    Interesting comparison with the starting under-18 team that won the FIRA-AER European Championships in April 2011

    15. Rory Scholes (Campbell College), IN THE SQUAD
    14. Conor McEllin (Blackrock College),
    13. Robert Henshaw (Marist College, Athlone), AT HIGHER LEVEL
    12. Chris Farrell (Campbell College), INJURED
    11. Mark Roche (Blackrock College),
    10. Stuart Olding (Belfast Royal Academy), IN THE SQUAD
    9. Luke McGrath (St. Michael's College) (capt), IN THE SQUAD
    8. Ryan Murphy (Presentation Brothers College, Cork), IN THE SQUAD
    7. Dan Leavy (St. Michael's College), INJURED
    6. Donagh Lawler (St. Michael's College),
    5. Gavin Thornbury (Blackrock College), IN THE SQUAD
    4. Jerry Sexton (St. Mary's College),
    3. Edward Byrne (Clongowes Wood College), INJURED
    2. Bryan Byrne (Clongowes Wood College), INJURED
    1. Gordon Frayne (Clongowes Wood College),


  • #221
    ormond lad
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    peterdonald90 wrote: »
    Interesting comparison with the starting under-18 schools team that won the FIRA-AER European Championships in April 2011

    15. Rory Scholes (Campbell College), IN THE SQUAD
    14. Conor McEllin (Blackrock College),
    13. Robert Henshaw (Marist College, Athlone), AT HIGHER LEVEL
    12. Chris Farrell (Campbell College), INJURED
    11. Mark Roche (Blackrock College),
    10. Stuart Olding (Belfast Royal Academy), IN THE SQUAD
    9. Luke McGrath (St. Michael's College) (capt), IN THE SQUAD
    8. Ryan Murphy (Presentation Brothers College, Cork), IN THE SQUAD
    7. Dan Leavy (St. Michael's College), INJURED
    6. Donagh Lawler (St. Michael's College),
    5. Gavin Thornbury (Blackrock College), IN THE SQUAD
    4. Jerry Sexton (St. Mary's College),
    3. Edward Byrne (Clongowes Wood College), INJURED
    2. Bryan Byrne (Clongowes Wood College), INJURED
    1. Gordon Frayne (Clongowes Wood College),
    very interesting. There is 5 or 6 who were in the irish youths squad that year who are in the 20s this year
    Tom Daly, Peter Dooley, George McGuigan, Conor Joyce and David Panter are all in the squad with Adam Byrne injured. there could be other youths from that year involved


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  • #222
    peterdonald90
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    This is one of the starting teams, Adam Byrne is on the bench.

    15 - David Panther (St. Paul's Coll/London Irish/Exiles) IN THE SQUAD
    14 - Tom Flynn (Epsom Coll/Cobham RFC/Exiles)
    13 - Conall Doherty (City of Derry/Ulster)
    12 - Thomas Daly (County Carlow/Leinster)IN THE SQUAD
    11 - Conor Fitzgibbon (Buccaneers/Connacht)
    10 - Liam Bourke (Navan/Leinster)
    9 - Finbarr McGowan (Longford/Leinster)
    1 - Peter Dooley (Birr/Leinster) IN THE SQUAD
    2 - George McGuigan (Gosforth Academy/Newcastle Falcons/Exiles) IN THE SQUAD
    3 - Ryan Furniss (Worcester Coll/Worcester Warriors/Exiles)
    4 - Sean O'Brien (Galwegians/Connacht)
    5 - Ultan Dillane (Tralee/Munster)
    6 - Conor Joyce (Solihull Sch/Leicester Tigers/Exiles) IN THE SQUAD
    7 - Akhlaque Khan (Navan/Leinster)
    8 - Eoghan Masterson (Portlaoise/Leinster)


  • #223
    Hagz
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    I didn't know Joyce was an Exile. That's McGuigan, Caulfield, O'Meara, Panther and Joyce. 5 Exiles.


  • #224
    Hagz
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    I think it's actually David Panter, unfortunately.


  • #225
    ormond lad
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    Interesting to see in G Cummiskeys article on the 20s that Henshaw has more minutes this season in the pro12 than any other player in irish rugby.
    http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/sport/2013/0129/1224329399917.html

    Team to be named tomorrow. Itll be a real shame for 20s if article is true and Olding is unavailable for friday night
    BTW Parc Eirais where the game is to be played friday night is savage venue. brother was over there in the summer
    first time being used for a welsh 20s but hosted some games between tier 2 nations in november


  • #226
    Fireball07
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    How come Haugh isn't in the squad, does he have an injury, or just not good enough?? I had heard he was very highly-rated?


  • #227
    Hagz
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    ormond lad wrote: »
    Itll be a real shame for 20s if article is true and Olding is unavailable for friday night

    If it is true he'll have to call up an extra back.


  • #228
    peterdonald90
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    would be pretty disappointing if olding was pulled


  • #229
    peterdonald90
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    Fireball07 wrote: »
    How come Haugh isn't in the squad, does he have an injury, or just not good enough?? I had heard he was very highly-rated?

    mcgrath and the ulster scrumhalf are also very highly rated


  • #230
    bah06
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    steve crosby is a very good player at outhalf. i would start him and put olding at 13 if fit?


  • #231
    Not Playing Tiddlywinks Vinny
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    Fireball07 wrote: »
    How come Haugh isn't in the squad, does he have an injury, or just not good enough?? I had heard he was very highly-rated?

    Luke Mcgrath is miles ahead of him and all 9s around this level i think. Interesting enough is i don't think he was even given a trial! Ruddock mustn't rate him as highly as others


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  • #232
    Score of 10
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    peterdonald90 wrote: »
    Interesting comparison with the starting under-18 team that won the FIRA-AER European Championships in April 2011

    15. Rory Scholes (Campbell College), IN THE SQUAD
    14. Conor McEllin (Blackrock College),
    13. Robert Henshaw (Marist College, Athlone), AT HIGHER LEVEL
    12. Chris Farrell (Campbell College), INJURED
    11. Mark Roche (Blackrock College),
    10. Stuart Olding (Belfast Royal Academy), IN THE SQUAD
    9. Luke McGrath (St. Michael's College) (capt), IN THE SQUAD
    8. Ryan Murphy (Presentation Brothers College, Cork), IN THE SQUAD
    7. Dan Leavy (St. Michael's College), INJURED
    6. Donagh Lawler (St. Michael's College),
    5. Gavin Thornbury (Blackrock College), IN THE SQUAD
    4. Jerry Sexton (St. Mary's College),
    3. Edward Byrne (Clongowes Wood College), INJURED
    2. Bryan Byrne (Clongowes Wood College), INJURED
    1. Gordon Frayne (Clongowes Wood College),

    What that would tend to tell you is that the Rock boys get worse with age or are hyped up way too much at a younger age


  • #233
    bilston
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    peterdonald90 wrote: »
    would be pretty disappointing if olding was pulled

    There isn't really any reason to pull him this weekend, next weekend maybe but maybe it depends on whether Uncle Declan releases PJ for the Ospreys game or not.


  • #234
    shuffol
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    Hagz wrote: »
    I think it's actually David Panter, unfortunately.

    Heard he wanted to be a painter but didnt have the I for it.:D
    Hagz wrote: »
    I didn't know Joyce was an Exile. That's McGuigan, Caulfield, O'Meara, Panther and Joyce. 5 Exiles.

    Would I be right in saying that its particularly rare to find youths players coming through the system in Ulster, anybody know what Joyce's story is? remember him playing against Leinster last christmas.


  • #235
    ormond lad
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    Team named
    http://www.munsterrugby.ie/domestic/news/11463.php
    15 - Stuart Olding (Belfast Harlequins /Ulster)
    14 - Alexander O'Meara (Hartpury/ Exiles)
    13 - Tom Daly (Lansdowne/Leinster)
    12 - Rory Scannell (Dolphin/Munster)
    11 - Rory Scholes (Belfast Harlequins/Ulster)
    10 - Steve Crosbie (Old Belvedere/Leinster)
    9 - Luke McGrath (UCD/Leinster) Captain
    1 - Brian Scott (UCC/Munster)
    2 - George McGuigan (Newcastle Falcons/Exile
    3 - Chris Taylor (Malone/Ulster)
    4 - John Donnan (Ballynahinch/Ulster)
    5 - Gavin Thornbury (UCD/Leinster)
    6 - Peadar Timmins (UCD/Leinster)
    7 - Ryan Murphy (Dolphin/Munster)
    8 - Conor Joyce (Malone/Ulster)

    Replacements
    16 - John Andrew (Ballymena/Ulster)
    17 - Peter Dooley (Lansdowne/Leinster)
    18 - Jake Caulfield (Malone/Ulster)
    19 - Sean McCarthy (Shannon/Munster)
    20 - Josh Van Der Flier (UCD/Leinster)
    21 - John Creighton (Malone /Ulster)
    22 - Darren Sweetnam (UCC/Munster)
    23 - David Panther (Corinthians/Connacht)


  • #236
    .ak
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    No surprise McGrath is Captain. Olding at fullback? What is with our obsession of putting OH's at FB?


  • #237
    Hagz
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    Josh Van der Flier just coming back from injury so expect him to get back onto the starting side when he's fit.


  • #238
    ormond lad
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    .ak wrote: »
    No surprise McGrath is Captain. Olding at fullback? What is with our obsession of putting OH's at FB?
    Not sure but Olding seems to be able to play across the backline and iirc played 1 or 2 games in last years JWC in the centre


  • #239
    Hype710
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    .ak wrote: »
    No surprise McGrath is Captain. Olding at fullback? What is with our obsession of putting OH's at FB?

    I don't think Olding has settled on a position yet, played 13 at the JWC last year! Confused as to why they've switched Joyce and Timmins around from their normal positions. If McGrath performs well this tournament I can see Leinster having to tie him down with a development deal.


  • #240
    Tox56
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    Hagz wrote: »
    Josh Van der Flier just coming back from injury so expect him to get back onto the starting side when he's fit.

    Even if Leavy comes back from injury?


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  • #241
    .ak
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    Yeah, I'd sooner move an OH to centre than FB tho. Seems a very Irish mentality.

    Sure shtick him at the back and he'll boot the leather off the ball.


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