how many bodies...Eamon Gilmore

dvpower wrote: »

What exactly is Bernard Lynch's current senior position in the Labour party?

I know he was involved in backroom strategy work within the Labour Party in Cork City; he now works out of Leinster House and is still involved locally I believe.

While you're at it, who are the others? (your allegation was of multiple senior party members being involved in multiple killings).
Can you put a number on the senior party members who were involved in killings?

As I said, if you think Bernard Lynch was the only person in Labour directly involved with the Official IRA you're codding yourself. The whole top tier of Labour were at some stage involved with the Official IRA who were up to their necks in robberies and high-profile killings. They've just appointed one of them to a Leinster House position.

So you agree that Gilmore is thus a hypocrite because he himself was associated with an armed group at one stage?

I take it you agree with this question then so?

OneIdea wrote: »

Moments ago on RTE Live - Leaders Questions

QUOTING: Minister Eamon Gilmore


What an awful stupid thing to say Live on TV...

EDIT: Its in relation to this post(10) further down this page.

Watch from 18 minutes http://www.rte.ie/player/ie/show/10096998/ Remark is said at 28 minutes

The following is NOT my work, it is a quote from politics.ie but it is so relevant here.

Looking through this thread I felt utter despair at our appalling political class,
or total lack of it, here in Ireland.

Because of the past of Sinn Fein all the government shower have to do is shriek at them about their past,
bedlam ensues, end of debate.

Fianna Fail raise a matter of import, and they are shrieked at by government for their past debacles,
bedlam ensues, end of debate.

Clare Daly, now an Independant raises a matter, and the government shrieks at her for defending a tax evader,Mick Wallace,
bedlam ensues, end of debate.

We have a Ceann Comhairle who is completely embarrassing he is so inept.
He cannot control the Chamber and so bedlam ensues at every Question Time, and no answers are actuall received, because;

The Government have no answers to give. Why?
Because the Government is not run by the Government.
It is run by a 3/4 Ministers and the favoured "advisers" whom we never elected,
which is bad enough,
but even parliamentarians are unaware of what has been decided until they are corralled and told how to vote
and the party whip is sacrosanct.

And I have not even mentioned the input of the European Parliament.

This is not democracy in action.
This is a bloody farce and every single T.D. who is playing along with this debacle is betraying us and our country.
And what do we do? What can we do?
It is my opinion that every single voter in Ireland has been betrayed by those we elected.
And why do I say this? Because these people are not representing us.
They are representing nothing but their own ambition, be it personal, political,
or a genuine determination to grow their own party, not the country, never the country,
but what they imagine is the real world which exists only in Kildare House,
whilst those of us in the real world reel from one shock to the next.

We have no government. We have no leaders. We have a tiny cartel of monied people who rule us.
We have a police force that is obviously falling apart and apparently rife with corruption,
and who amazingly has a commissioner who applauds the closure of hundreds of Garda stations.
We have people who have defrauded us out of billions but who are once again arrested by appointment
and released on bail of €1,000, passport not removed, and please sir,
let the Gardai have 2 days notice if you intend going abroad!

It's a great big bloody disaster.
But sure Christmas is nearly upon us, and the great and the good will disappear for several weeks,
giving them time to let us peasants cry into our gruel as the budget hits,
but foolishly distracted by the very useful Abortion controversy which was timed brilliantly by our erstwhile enemy,
the politician.

Godge wrote: »

Maybe if Sinn Fein provided us with the information on

(1) where the bodies are buried
(2) who put the bodies there and
(3) who killed them beforehand

then we wouldn't need to be pointing the fingers in the general direction.

How is that meant to work? Lets ignore the simple fact SF didnt kill anyone, and instead jump to theconclusion you actually mean the IRA - how would there be records of this information?

Do you actually think for a minute that a secret, proscribed organisation would keep paper trails of who done what and bodies where buried?

If they didn't (which logically you would assume they wouldnt have), then who exactly would have the information to answer your questions?

Alternatively, do you believe theres people in SF who know every ever active IRA member and a list of the things they done? I just dont understand how you would expect anyone in SF to be in a position to answer those questions.

super_furry wrote: »

It's a valid question. Their armed wing buried so many that they forgot where they left the disappeared.

Agreed. I detest them. However... Bringing this up every single f*cking time they make a point about anything in order to avoid actually answering legitimate questions is about as unbearably stupid as when they attack FF's causing of the financial crisis any time FF tries to question their response to it.

A government shouldn't respond to legitimate criticism with counterattacks, they should be explaining their actions to the people.