Optimus GREEN variable laser designator

moby30 · 18-10-2012 11:21AM

4200fps wrote: »

Hi Moby.what one is it that cost 450euro?Is it the best one? I'm mixed up with them all

The one that costs that much is the laser genetics nd3X50. It is good but would want to be for that price. heres a break down if it helps:

Laser genetics ND3 150-200 euros roughly
complete waste of money
Laser genetics ND3x50 300-400 euros roughly
Good but wont work in the cold weather-Not suitable for use in Ireland IMO
Laser genetics ND3x50 350-500 euros roughly
Sub Zero(The only one suitable for our weather as it can be used in extreme cold)
Laser genetics ND5 250-350 euros roughly
This is IMO quite good but its a hand held torch and not really suitable for mounting on a scope. A friend of mine has but involved a lot of duct tape, led lenser clamps and elastic bands so not really ideal.

As you can see and again its only my opinion the ND3x50 Sub-Zero is the only one of the Laser Genetics that is suitable for the Irish Market. It is almost as big as your scope with a bit of weight to it and the mounts that come with it are just not up to the job so thats why you always hear people giving out about that. It is something you could possibly fix but the big decider for me is the Price.

Optimus N3 135-150 euros
(Just not powerful enough)

Optimus N5 180-199 euros
More powerful than any of the above and less than half the price in some cases. its also a lot smaller than the Laser Genetics and this makes a huge difference as its far more secure on the scope. Its also much easier to adjust.
The sellerit will work in all temperature and so far mine has albeit it might take a couple of seconds to get up to full power BUT I only got it a few months back so havent had the chance to try it in very cold conditions yet.
If you seen the Optimus side by side with the Laser Genetics the build Quality is not as good but from my point of view who cares as it better anyway and where I do a lot of fox shooting I cannot justify spending 400+ euros anyway.
Hope that helps

moby30 · 18-10-2012 12:18PM

Just to answer a previous question you had when you look through your scope the whole animal can be seen crystal clear and not just the eyes shining back at you. You can adjust the width of the beam to fill your whole field of view through the scope and its like looking through the best night vision monacular/scope but even better and clearer. the problem I always had when using a light was that everything seemed further away than it actually was but this doesnt happen with the laser. If something is a few hundred yards away you can just tighten the beam to make it clearer. Theres a lot said about do animals see the light emitted and where some say NO I say definitely YES although it just doesnt seem to bother them like the torches/halogens. I always find if I go into a field and scan around with a light the fox will always look at it as he knows somebodys there and somethings up straight away which puts you at the disadvantage but when using the laser I always give a little squeal as I have often scanned a field and thought there was nothing there as they sometimes pay no heed to it and dont look in your direction.

hedzball · 18-10-2012 05:55PM

Dont let the warm up period put you off either..

All lasers have warm up periods to get current into the circuitry ..

Green is actually one of the worst in the spectrum for warm up.. still thou.. flick it on.. 3-8 seconds..

'hdz

4200fps · 18-10-2012 08:27PM

moby30 wrote: »

The one that costs that much is the laser genetics nd3X50. It is good but would want to be for that price. heres a break down if it helps:

Laser genetics ND3 150-200 euros roughly
complete waste of money
Laser genetics ND3x50 300-400 euros roughly
Good but wont work in the cold weather-Not suitable for use in Ireland IMO
Laser genetics ND3x50 350-500 euros roughly
Sub Zero(The only one suitable for our weather as it can be used in extreme cold)
Laser genetics ND5 250-350 euros roughly
This is IMO quite good but its a hand held torch and not really suitable for mounting on a scope. A friend of mine has but involved a lot of duct tape, led lenser clamps and elastic bands so not really ideal.

As you can see and again its only my opinion the ND3x50 Sub-Zero is the only one of the Laser Genetics that is suitable for the Irish Market. It is almost as big as your scope with a bit of weight to it and the mounts that come with it are just not up to the job so thats why you always hear people giving out about that. It is something you could possibly fix but the big decider for me is the Price.

Optimus N3 135-150 euros
(Just not powerful enough)

Optimus N5 180-199 euros
More powerful than any of the above and less than half the price in some cases. its also a lot smaller than the Laser Genetics and this makes a huge difference as its far more secure on the scope. Its also much easier to adjust.
The sellerit will work in all temperature and so far mine has albeit it might take a couple of seconds to get up to full power BUT I only got it a few months back so havent had the chance to try it in very cold conditions yet.
If you seen the Optimus side by side with the Laser Genetics the build Quality is not as good but from my point of view who cares as it better anyway and where I do a lot of fox shooting I cannot justify spending 400+ euros anyway.
Hope that helps

Very well wrote and explained to a T. Thanks Moby

gearoidol · 18-10-2012 09:55PM

Well feck the lot of yee , all yeer yapping just made me order one.

Can yee tell me does it come with a mount to go to a 30 mm tube

hedzball · 18-10-2012 11:02PM

gearoidol wrote: »

Well feck the lot of yee , all yeer yapping just made me order one.

Can yee tell me does it come with a mount to go to a 30 mm tube

its a 30mm mount with a sleeve for 25

gearoidol · 18-10-2012 11:10PM

hedzball wrote: »

its a 30mm mount with a sleeve for 25

Thanks alot really looking forward to it.

Do u have to do much elavtion adjustment out in the field to keep the laser in the scope view when shooting foxs at 100 - 150 -200 yards?

stoeger2000 · 18-10-2012 11:50PM

moby30 wrote: »

The one that costs that much is the laser genetics nd3X50. It is good but would want to be for that price. heres a break down if it helps:

Laser genetics ND3 150-200 euros roughly
complete waste of money
Laser genetics ND3x50 300-400 euros roughly
Good but wont work in the cold weather-Not suitable for use in Ireland IMO
Laser genetics ND3x50 350-500 euros roughly
Sub Zero(The only one suitable for our weather as it can be used in extreme cold)
Laser genetics ND5 250-350 euros roughly
This is IMO quite good but its a hand held torch and not really suitable for mounting on a scope. A friend of mine has but involved a lot of duct tape, led lenser clamps and elastic bands so not really ideal.

As you can see and again its only my opinion the ND3x50 Sub-Zero is the only one of the Laser Genetics that is suitable for the Irish Market. It is almost as big as your scope with a bit of weight to it and the mounts that come with it are just not up to the job so thats why you always hear people giving out about that. It is something you could possibly fix but the big decider for me is the Price.

Optimus N3 135-150 euros
(Just not powerful enough)

Optimus N5 180-199 euros
More powerful than any of the above and less than half the price in some cases. its also a lot smaller than the Laser Genetics and this makes a huge difference as its far more secure on the scope. Its also much easier to adjust.
The sellerit will work in all temperature and so far mine has albeit it might take a couple of seconds to get up to full power BUT I only got it a few months back so havent had the chance to try it in very cold conditions yet.
If you seen the Optimus side by side with the Laser Genetics the build Quality is not as good but from my point of view who cares as it better anyway and where I do a lot of fox shooting I cannot justify spending 400+ euros anyway.
Hope that helps

have you got a link for where you bought yours please??

i have found a "optimus green ld-50 sub zero" on ebay, how does that compare to the "N5"??

kfod · 27-10-2012 08:27PM

I ordered the LD-50 Sub Zero from this fella about a week ago.

http://www.sports-2-go.com/laser-designators-22-c.asp

He has to wait on a shipment from Hong Kong or China or somewhere in that direction as he had no stock in the 25 - 30mm mount one, but in fairness he has been pretty good with replying to email and is expecting delivery by the end of next week.

All going well that means it will be mounted onto my friends swift this day fortnight for a Saturday night of foxing. I'll update on it then. If the weather is anything like tonight will be I'd say it will test the low temp ability pretty well

minktrapper · 28-10-2012 08:43PM

What is approx. battery life and price.Can you use rechargable batteries.

kfod · 28-10-2012 09:56PM

I think you can use rechargeable 18650 batteries and you can use 2 x cr123 rechargeables.

An truicear tochasach · 28-10-2012 11:24PM

moby30 wrote: »

The one that costs that much is the laser genetics nd3X50. It is good but would want to be for that price. heres a break down if it helps:

Laser genetics ND3 150-200 euros roughly
complete waste of money
Laser genetics ND3x50 300-400 euros roughly
Good but wont work in the cold weather-Not suitable for use in Ireland IMO
Laser genetics ND3x50 350-500 euros roughly
Sub Zero(The only one suitable for our weather as it can be used in extreme cold)
Laser genetics ND5 250-350 euros roughly
This is IMO quite good but its a hand held torch and not really suitable for mounting on a scope. A friend of mine has but involved a lot of duct tape, led lenser clamps and elastic bands so not really ideal.

As you can see and again its only my opinion the ND3x50 Sub-Zero is the only one of the Laser Genetics that is suitable for the Irish Market. It is almost as big as your scope with a bit of weight to it and the mounts that come with it are just not up to the job so thats why you always hear people giving out about that. It is something you could possibly fix but the big decider for me is the Price.

Optimus N3 135-150 euros
(Just not powerful enough)

Optimus N5 180-199 euros
More powerful than any of the above and less than half the price in some cases. its also a lot smaller than the Laser Genetics and this makes a huge difference as its far more secure on the scope. Its also much easier to adjust.
The sellerit will work in all temperature and so far mine has albeit it might take a couple of seconds to get up to full power BUT I only got it a few months back so havent had the chance to try it in very cold conditions yet.
If you seen the Optimus side by side with the Laser Genetics the build Quality is not as good but from my point of view who cares as it better anyway and where I do a lot of fox shooting I cannot justify spending 400+ euros anyway.
Hope that helps

You should be getting commission! I'm seriously thinking of getting on this band wagon. I'm relatively new to the game with the limited experience of going after bunnies with me air rifle and a reasonably powerful super LED mounted on the scope.(super LED was designed for mountain biking). I think I got one bunny last year for all my trouble!

I'm waiting for my licence to come through for a .22rimfire so am thinking of getting one of these - its not clear if the Optimus N3 is total rubbish or just not powerful enough for foxes? I'm only after bunnys so the range would be much shorter. Any tips/experience of the Optimus n3 welcome. I'ts probably worth spending the extra few bob for the N5 but cash is cash - never enoough to go round....thanks

An truicear tochasach · 28-10-2012 11:26PM

minktrapper wrote: »

What is approx. battery life and price.Can you use rechargable batteries.

Anybody got the answer to this question - would be interested to know too?

kfod · 28-10-2012 11:28PM

if its just for rabbits on the .22 maybe one of these would do?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/280999547931?ru=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.co.uk%2Fsch%2Fi.html%3F_sacat%3D0%26_from%3DR40%26_nkw%3D280999547931%26_rdc%3D1

don't know anything about them except I read this:

http://www.airgunforum.co.uk/forums/anything-airgun-related/142268-lamping-kit-what-would-you-buy.html

damn site cheaper to.

minktrapper · 28-10-2012 11:32PM

I was looking through the BatteryCity.ie website and came accross a bicicle light called Magicshine.It has 1200 lumen and costs 120 euro.Anyone ever come accross it.Could it be adapted to a scope.

lb1981 · 29-10-2012 12:28PM

An truicear tochasach wrote: »

You should be getting commission! I'm seriously thinking of getting on this band wagon. I'm relatively new to the game with the limited experience of going after bunnies with me air rifle and a reasonably powerful super LED mounted on the scope.(super LED was designed for mountain biking). I think I got one bunny last year for all my trouble!

I'm waiting for my licence to come through for a .22rimfire so am thinking of getting one of these - its not clear if the Optimus N3 is total rubbish or just not powerful enough for foxes? I'm only after bunnys so the range would be much shorter. Any tips/experience of the Optimus n3 welcome. I'ts probably worth spending the extra few bob for the N5 but cash is cash - never enoough to go round....thanks

The N3 is grand on a .22 for rabbits ,i had it on my .223 but the field of view is too small for shots at distance so i stepped it up to the nd5.Battery wise they last ages ,i haven't changed mine in months but i have heard the rechargeable ones are no good and dont last that long ,to be honest for the few quid it cost for new ones you wouldnt need to change them enough to buy the charger and rechargable ones

noeleire · 29-10-2012 10:28PM

hi what is the distance the nd30 is good for on a .22

hedzball · 29-10-2012 11:27PM

gearoidol wrote: »

Thanks alot really looking forward to it.

Do u have to do much elavtion adjustment out in the field to keep the laser in the scope view when shooting foxs at 100 - 150 -200 yards?

Well we were lookin at posts at 330 yards the other night on a 14x scope and had a field of view of about 20 odd feet ..

we put it on its tightest (which you will never use) and was shining in on sheds 2kms odd away..

kfod wrote: »

if its just for rabbits on the .22 maybe one of these would do?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/280999547931?ru=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.co.uk%2Fsch%2Fi.html%3F_sacat%3D0%26_from%3DR40%26_nkw%3D280999547931%26_rdc%3D1

don't know anything about them except I read this:

http://www.airgunforum.co.uk/forums/anything-airgun-related/142268-lamping-kit-what-would-you-buy.html

damn site cheaper to.

Can't really compare a torch to a laser...

far from swings and roundabouts..

lb1981 · 29-10-2012 11:35PM

noel bailey wrote: »

hi what is the distance the nd30 is good for on a .22

To be honest as far as your scope can see ,they are good it is just the field of view on the nd50 is larger

kfod · 30-10-2012 01:41PM

hedzball wrote: »

Can't really compare a torch to a laser...

far from swings and roundabouts..

I think it is a laser no?

here is the same only more expensive:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Green-laser-flashlight-for-night-vision-Adjustable-focus-night-hunting-20mm-rail-/121008012440?pt=UK_SportsLeisure_Camping_LightsLanternsTorches&hash=item1c2ca3bc98

Like I said, only read that bit on some other forum, so don't know about them. I have the Optimus ld-50 on the way as I was happy with moby's recommendation of his Optimus and said I'd take a punt on one.

shooter69 · 30-10-2012 11:22PM

Well lads bought one on ebay ( the nd30) and bagged my first bunny . Its class ,took out the rabbit at approx 100 yards no bother . Would love to try the bigger one ,nd50 , i think?
Dear santa...

kfod · 30-10-2012 11:28PM

what do you think the effective range of it is? was it a china one or from the uk? well ware

shooter69 · 30-10-2012 11:33PM

kfod wrote: »

what do you think the effective range of it is? was it a china one or from the uk? well ware

Id say 100 comfortably but could get out to 150. Only took it out for first time tonight but dying to get out again. Bought from uk thru ebay
Cheers bud

noeleire · 31-10-2012 12:03AM

shooter69 wrote: »

Well lads bought one on ebay ( the nd30) and bagged my first bunny . Its class ,took out the rabbit at approx 100 yards no bother . Would love to try the bigger one ,nd50 , i think?
Dear santa...

hi i bought a nd30 on ebay it came in the post today its the uk one optimus cant wait to thursday to give it a try for some bunnies brought it up to the field just to try it out and it looks good

jap gt · 31-10-2012 12:33AM

been looking for one of these on ebay, any optimus i found nd50 is nearly 300, can any one post a link to the proper one

lb1981 · 31-10-2012 01:11AM

jap gt wrote: »

been looking for one of these on ebay, any optimus i found nd50 is nearly 300, can any one post a link to the proper one

http://www.ebay.ie/itm/Brand-New-Tactical-Hunting-Big-Power-Laser-Flashlight-Designator-ND-50-/280986045218?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item416c12cb22

this is the same it just dosnt have the optimus sticker on it , see that is what demand does they hve gone up 200 euro since i bought mine

clivej · 31-10-2012 01:21AM

lb1981 wrote: »

http://www.ebay.ie/itm/Brand-New-Tactical-Hunting-Big-Power-Laser-Flashlight-Designator-ND-50-/280986045218?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item416c12cb22

this is the same it just dosnt have the optimus sticker on it , see that is what demand does they hve gone up 200 euro since i bought mine

Good link, I just ordered one off the BAY

lb1981 · 31-10-2012 01:24AM

clivej wrote: »

Good link, I just ordered one off the BAY

they are the same laser Clive ,they just get the optimus sticker when they get to England, ordered another one my self:D

clivej · 31-10-2012 12:48PM

clivej wrote: »

Good link, I just ordered one off the BAY

lb1981 wrote: »

http://www.ebay.ie/itm/Brand-New-Tactical-Hunting-Big-Power-Laser-Flashlight-Designator-ND-50-/280986045218?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item416c12cb22

this is the same it just dosnt have the optimus sticker on it , see that is what demand does they hve gone up 200 euro since i bought mine

lb1981 wrote: »

they are the same laser Clive ,they just get the optimus sticker when they get to England, ordered another one my self:D

Thats the trouble with:

Having a laptop
Access to Ebay
A PayPal account
Way too much free time
$$$$$$ from selling my Kidd trigger
NOT ENOUGH STUFF :D:D

Look to Dealxtreme.com or DX.com for the 18650 protected rechargable batteries and a charger.

lb1981 · 31-10-2012 02:53PM

clivej wrote: »

Thats the trouble with:
Having a laptop

Access to Ebay

A PayPal account

Way too much free time

$$$$$$ from selling my Kidd trigger

NOT ENOUGH STUFF :D:D

Look to Dealxtreme.com or DX.com for the 18650 protected rechargable batteries and a charger.

Just be careful Clive with the 18650 battery , i tried the one from my led lenser but it did not work because of the contact in the picture below,the contact on the cap is lower than the surrounding black plastic ring so the battery can not touch so if you are going to go down that road you will need to bridge that gap, not a major hassle just something you need to be aware of.
?ui=2&ik=f6f2c82433&view=att&th=13ab7108b3f9cac5&attid=0.1&disp=thd&realattid=1417350771173752832-1&zw

?ui=2&ik=f6f2c82433&view=att&th=13ab7108b3f9cac5&attid=0.1&disp=thd&realattid=1417350771173752832-1&zw

You can never have enough stuff ,it is just finding a place to hide it or hiding the credit card receipt

speaking of which is that s&b you had up for sale a few weeks ago still available?

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