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Optimus GREEN variable laser designator

  • 29-05-2012 10:54am
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 965 ✭✭✭


    After slaughtering the nd3 and nd5 in a thread about them a few months back,Rabbit Assassin recomended one of these.
    I have been out with lads that have paid mega bucks for the nd3 and nd5 and i just thought they were pure ****e the mounting bracket they came with was like something for airsoft and when it got cold the nd3 just gave up.So i took a chance on one of these (less than 180 delivered from ebay)as i have been coming accross a lot of lamp shy problem foxes lately.
    Went out with moby30 last night for a few rabbits that have been giving his neighbour grief so brought along the optimus designator on the .223 just in case we came accross a fox , im glad i did now.
    We got these 2 aswell as about 10 rabbits,the first one was about 80 yards and the 2nd about 20,they payed no attention to the beam ,just kept on mooching,should have had another older fox who has been legging it for the past 6 months every time a light has been put near him but i wasnt sure of the back drop so i didnt pull the trigger:mad:fool.
    I was driving around on top of the jeep and it was freezing but the designator did not loose any power,i was looking at rabbits at about 250 through the scope not a bother,you can tighten the beam up and go out further and the mount has a elevation and windage tumbscrew so you can line it back up with your cross hairs fairly quick.
    It comes with a battery , pressure switch, two mounts ,one for a picatinny and one for straight mounting on to your scope.
    Would recomend this if any of you lads are having problems with lamp shy foxes.


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Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,615 ✭✭✭kildare.17hmr


    Nice one, does it work for scanning the field? As in does it pick up eyes like a lamp?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 965 ✭✭✭lb1981


    Nice one, does it work for scanning the field? As in does it pick up eyes like a lamp?
    Yeah you can put it on full flood and scan with it and eyes reflect back just like a torch, you wouldnt have the search area you would have with the torch but it is still fairly good, we were just scanning with the led lenser x7r and when i seen eyes i just flicked on the designator looked through the scope then bang no messing. i have a kaps 8 x 56 with illuminated dot and the designator worked perfect with it.
    I acutally bought the wrong one i ment to buy the more powerfull one it is only about 20 quid dearer. but im more than happy with the one i got.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,615 ✭✭✭kildare.17hmr


    Sounds good, i had been considering an nd3 last year but decided against it because if the bad reviews


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 965 ✭✭✭lb1981


    Sounds good, i had been considering an nd3 last year but decided against it because if the bad reviews
    I was out with lads that had both and the nd3 is dirt the nd5 was a better job but your talking over 550 quid that would be more expensive than some lads scope and gun and the mounting bracket was still ****e.
    Rabbit assassin recomended this one so i took a chance and i wasnt disapointed.

    http://www.ebay.ie/itm/370609313628?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649

    http://www.ebay.ie/itm/Optimus-N50-LASER-GREEN-Designator-scope-night-vision-site-VERY-POWERFULL-/221031765205?pt=UK_SportingGoods_Hunting_ShootingSports_ET&hash=item33768514d5


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86 ✭✭franknrol


    tempted, can you switch it constant on or is it just the pressure switch? can the battery be recharged or are they just disposable, thanks.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 965 ✭✭✭lb1981


    franknrol wrote: »
    tempted, can you switch it constant on or is it just the pressure switch? can the battery be recharged or are they just disposable, thanks.
    You can do both they give you a push button end cap for leaving it on constant or the pressure switch with cap for just flicking it on, the battery is a cr123A ,the one they give you is disposable but you can buy 2 and a charger for a 10 -20 euro on ebay


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86 ✭✭franknrol


    time to raid the coffers me thinks:D:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 180 ✭✭ClarkyTrd


    Friend of mine just bought a new NiteSite NS50 Night Vision kit..

    Will have to test it now :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 965 ✭✭✭lb1981


    ClarkyTrd wrote: »
    Friend of mine just bought a new NiteSite NS50 Night Vision kit..

    Will have to test it now :)
    SSShhhh !!!! Keep that dark if it is scope mountable;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,616 ✭✭✭FISMA


    lb1981,
    From the image the light looks diffused and not a beam. This is a LASER, correct and not just a bright light, correct?

    What exactly are you looking to do with it?

    I tried out a 1/2 Watt Wicked LASER not too long ago and it was amazing. At hundreds of yards, you could easily see the dot and the line. It was so bright, you could use it as a flashlight.

    Actually, it is so bright that: (1) I was concerned about going blind if it were to bounce off an object and (2) the dot is easily visible at 100ya during the day.

    I can only imagine what the 1.0 Watt ($300) laser could do.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 965 ✭✭✭lb1981


    FISMA wrote: »
    lb1981,
    From the image the light looks diffused and not a beam. This is a LASER, correct and not just a bright light, correct?

    What exactly are you looking to do with it?

    I tried out a 1/2 Watt Wicked LASER not too long ago and it was amazing. At hundreds of yards, you could easily see the dot and the line. It was so bright, you could use it as a flashlight.

    Actually, it is so bright that: (1) I was concerned about going blind if it were to bounce off an object and (2) the dot is easily visible at 100ya during the day.

    I can only imagine what the 1.0 Watt ($300) laser could do.
    Yes it is a laser (Laser Diode - The 18mW 532nm beam)What do you mean what am i looking to do with it ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3 BusDriver738


    Just out of curiosity do you have the optimus nd30 or the nd50? What range is it useable to roughly? Do you think it could be mounted using a led lensor p7 mount that I have? Sorry for all the questions just seriously thinking of getting one...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 506 ✭✭✭moby30


    Just out of curiosity do you have the optimus nd30 or the nd50? What range is it useable to roughly? Do you think it could be mounted using a led lensor p7 mount that I have? Sorry for all the questions just seriously thinking of getting one...

    Only answering this as LB1981 is in Oz at the moment. He originally had the n30 the changed for the n50 as it was more powerful. In terms of range that depends on your scope but i can clearly make out objects over 400 yards away. It comes with a couple of different mounts so it will fit any scope. Mine came with a double mount aswell which allowed me to attach a torch aswell- but it's that good I don't bother.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3 BusDriver738


    moby30 wrote: »
    Just out of curiosity do you have the optimus nd30 or the nd50? What range is it useable to roughly? Do you think it could be mounted using a led lensor p7 mount that I have? Sorry for all the questions just seriously thinking of getting one...

    Only answering this as LB1981 is in Oz at the moment. He originally had the n30 the changed for the n50 as it was more powerful. In terms of range that depends on your scope but i can clearly make out objects over 400 yards away. It comes with a couple of different mounts so it will fit any scope. Mine came with a double mount aswell which allowed me to attach a torch aswell- but it's that good I don't bother.

    Cheers for the pm an info I think I'll take the plunge an go for the nd50 so.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 764 ✭✭✭hedzball


    Sorry for bumping an old thread..

    Could anyone compare light output or say a led lenser to one of these lamps?

    I have the little rechargeable lenser with the single head.. 220 lumens..

    Can spot eyes.. But It would by no means illuminate something comfortably over 200 yards..



    'hdz


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 965 ✭✭✭lb1981


    hedzball wrote: »
    Sorry for bumping an old thread..

    Could anyone compare light output or say a led lenser to one of these lamps?

    I have the little rechargeable lenser with the single head.. 220 lumens..

    Can spot eyes.. But It would by no means illuminate something comfortably over 200 yards..



    'hdz
    we were out lamping the other night and myself and moby30 were looking at deer eating leaves from a tree at 300 yards through the scope crystal clear with the laser, we got the 50mm versons


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 793 ✭✭✭declan1980


    lb1981 wrote: »
    we were out lamping the other night and myself and moby30 were looking at deer eating leaves from a tree at 300 yards through the scope crystal clear with the laser, we got the 50mm versons

    Did you check it for temperature sensitivity yet?
    The nd3 wouldn't work below 10 degrees c.
    Have you tried it in rain at all? Can you still identify your target then?
    I'm not trying to run the product down, I was very impressed with moby's one when I saw it. I'm just tryin to see if it has any of the same problems as the nd3, because I'm thinking about buying one


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 764 ✭✭✭hedzball


    lb1981 wrote: »
    we were out lamping the other night and myself and moby30 were looking at deer eating leaves from a tree at 300 yards through the scope crystal clear with the laser, we got the 50mm versons

    :):)

    Thanks for that..

    Reckon I'll pick one up so :) ..











    'hdz


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 965 ✭✭✭lb1981


    declan1980 wrote: »
    Did you check it for temperature sensitivity yet?
    The nd3 wouldn't work below 10 degrees c.
    Have you tried it in rain at all? Can you still identify your target then?
    I'm not trying to run the product down, I was very impressed with moby's one when I saw it. I'm just tryin to see if it has any of the same problems as the nd3, because I'm thinking about buying one

    It defo works under 10 degrees Declan,as for the rain the only time i had it out it was that misty rain with a strong wind we were caught out in and i couldnt see through my scope with the rain blowing on to my lens but the laser seemed fine, i have got some thin neoprean sheets from work and i am going the make some covers for it just as a precaution.
    Theses are imitation ones Declan but they have a better mounting system than the ones x2 the price.
    The beam can be opened up and it can be used for scanning the fields so that is the next plan to move away from the led lensers and have one of these on the scope and one in the hand as they dont spook the fox, go for the 50mm version bigger scanning area.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 395 ✭✭welsummer


    how does it rate against the led lenser M7R. Bought one of these late last year for €120. Please dont tell me that what i bought is crap compared to yours


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 965 ✭✭✭lb1981


    welsummer wrote: »
    how does it rate against the led lenser M7R. Bought one of these late last year for €120. Please dont tell me that what i bought is crap compared to yours
    it is 2 totally different items , the m7r and x7r are torches and do what they are ment to do, the designator is totally different as it is a laser, the laser dosnt spook the fox


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,259 ✭✭✭Hunterbiker


    And again sorry fro bumping an old thread...
    But Lads. Would there be any import restriction from getting one posted from the UK? Are there any license implications for these items?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,279 ✭✭✭4200fps


    I do hear good and bad reports about them.some claim 150 yards with the ND50? Some claim they are useless and some say they are the last word. Is it down to your optics? I would buy one soon if they are good. Also James Mc Bride has them and he claims 150yards be about the cut of them. I don't know what they are like as I never seen one in action. Does the fox look at the light? Would you see one clearly at 300 yards if the conditions was right or only eyes? Only eyes is out the window for me. I need to see him clearly.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,393 ✭✭✭✭Vegeta


    4200fps wrote: »
    I do hear good and bad reports about them.some claim 150 yards with the ND50? Some claim they are useless and some say they are the last word. Is it down to your optics? I would buy one soon if they are good. Also James Mc Bride has them and he claims 150yards be about the cut of them. I don't know what they are like as I never seen one in action. Does the fox look at the light? Would you see one clearly at 300 yards if the conditions was right or only eyes? Only eyes is out the window for me. I need to see him clearly.

    Are you asking about the Laser Genetics ones or the Optimus ones?

    I have heard mixed reviews of the Laser Genetics ones but only good things about the Optimus ones


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 506 ✭✭✭moby30


    It really couldn't be any clearer lads.
    The laser genetics nd3 isn't worth a bollix
    The other laser genetics are good but WAY over priced.
    The Optimus laser n5 is half the price and more powerful. I can clearly make out like its daytime an animal 3/4/5 hundred plus yards. You are only limited by your scope.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 764 ✭✭✭hedzball


    And again sorry fro bumping an old thread...
    But Lads. Would there be any import restriction from getting one posted from the UK? Are there any license implications for these items?

    Buy it off ebay. Sent to the door within 3 days :)

    4200fps wrote: »
    I do hear good and bad reports about them.some claim 150 yards with the ND50? Some claim they are useless and some say they are the last word. Is it down to your optics? I would buy one soon if they are good. Also James Mc Bride has them and he claims 150yards be about the cut of them. I don't know what they are like as I never seen one in action. Does the fox look at the light? Would you see one clearly at 300 yards if the conditions was right or only eyes? Only eyes is out the window for me. I need to see him clearly.


    Well I took a few now at 250-350 yard ranges with a buds 243.. she has a S+B klassik 3-12x50 iirc.. at 350 yards you can see the legs and ears without a bother.. they really are a serious piece of kit.. I called one in with the .22 while it looked at the beam.. came to within 25 yards are so.. I was shocked.. just dont use the recharge batterys.. pure shiote.. go away and buy a shot of cr123's..

    also the ones in mcbrides are the laser genetics.. not meant to be great..

    funny enough and it usually applys to shooting but this time round "you dont get what you pay for.. "

    Nd50 optimus anyday im telling ya



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    Vegeta wrote: »
    Are you asking about the Laser Genetics ones or the Optimus ones?

    I have heard mixed reviews of the Laser Genetics ones but only good things about the Optimus ones

    :):)
    moby30 wrote: »
    It really couldn't be any clearer lads.
    The laser genetics nd3 isn't worth a bollix
    The other laser genetics are good but WAY over priced.
    The Optimus laser n5 is half the price and more powerful. I can clearly make out like its daytime an animal 3/4/5 hundred plus yards. You are only limited by your scope.


    at night time we put the laser onto the tinnest point and shone it in a friends house window :pac::pac:

    as the crow flys on google maps its just under 2 and a half km's :pac::pac:


    Really are a serious piece of kit..


    I'm gonna get a pse stock made up for the tikka with a pic rail on the side to mount it..

    ya hear me edi :pac::pac:






    'hdz


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,279 ✭✭✭4200fps


    the Nd50 optimus sounds exactly what i'd like. How much is one.
    Looks neat on your rifle. Nice kit by the way


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,279 ✭✭✭4200fps


    Vegeta wrote: »
    Are you asking about the Laser Genetics ones or the Optimus ones?

    I have heard mixed reviews of the Laser Genetics ones but only good things about the Optimus ones
    I'm on about the one that cost 450euro and has a green beam of light. James mc bride has them. I remember seeing a wild boar on the box but can't recall the name of it. He claimed 150 yards at most and i'm not saying he's right or wrong


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 506 ✭✭✭moby30


    I got mine delivered to the door for 180 euros including all the mounts etc. They seem to have a good returns policy alsojust in case. I think they might have gone up slightly though since then.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,279 ✭✭✭4200fps


    moby30 wrote: »
    I got mine delivered to the door for 180 euros including all the mounts etc. They seem to have a good returns policy alsojust in case. I think they might have gone up slightly though since then.
    Hi Moby.what one is it that cost 450euro?Is it the best one? I'm mixed up with them all


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 506 ✭✭✭moby30


    4200fps wrote: »
    Hi Moby.what one is it that cost 450euro?Is it the best one? I'm mixed up with them all

    The one that costs that much is the laser genetics nd3X50. It is good but would want to be for that price. heres a break down if it helps:

    Laser genetics ND3 150-200 euros roughly
    complete waste of money
    Laser genetics ND3x50 300-400 euros roughly
    Good but wont work in the cold weather-Not suitable for use in Ireland IMO
    Laser genetics ND3x50 350-500 euros roughly
    Sub Zero(The only one suitable for our weather as it can be used in extreme cold)
    Laser genetics ND5 250-350 euros roughly
    This is IMO quite good but its a hand held torch and not really suitable for mounting on a scope. A friend of mine has but involved a lot of duct tape, led lenser clamps and elastic bands so not really ideal.

    As you can see and again its only my opinion the ND3x50 Sub-Zero is the only one of the Laser Genetics that is suitable for the Irish Market. It is almost as big as your scope with a bit of weight to it and the mounts that come with it are just not up to the job so thats why you always hear people giving out about that. It is something you could possibly fix but the big decider for me is the Price.

    Optimus N3 135-150 euros
    (Just not powerful enough)

    Optimus N5 180-199 euros
    More powerful than any of the above and less than half the price in some cases. its also a lot smaller than the Laser Genetics and this makes a huge difference as its far more secure on the scope. Its also much easier to adjust.
    The sellerit will work in all temperature and so far mine has albeit it might take a couple of seconds to get up to full power BUT I only got it a few months back so havent had the chance to try it in very cold conditions yet.
    If you seen the Optimus side by side with the Laser Genetics the build Quality is not as good but from my point of view who cares as it better anyway and where I do a lot of fox shooting I cannot justify spending 400+ euros anyway.
    Hope that helps


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 506 ✭✭✭moby30


    Just to answer a previous question you had when you look through your scope the whole animal can be seen crystal clear and not just the eyes shining back at you. You can adjust the width of the beam to fill your whole field of view through the scope and its like looking through the best night vision monacular/scope but even better and clearer. the problem I always had when using a light was that everything seemed further away than it actually was but this doesnt happen with the laser. If something is a few hundred yards away you can just tighten the beam to make it clearer. Theres a lot said about do animals see the light emitted and where some say NO I say definitely YES although it just doesnt seem to bother them like the torches/halogens. I always find if I go into a field and scan around with a light the fox will always look at it as he knows somebodys there and somethings up straight away which puts you at the disadvantage but when using the laser I always give a little squeal as I have often scanned a field and thought there was nothing there as they sometimes pay no heed to it and dont look in your direction.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 764 ✭✭✭hedzball


    Dont let the warm up period put you off either..

    All lasers have warm up periods to get current into the circuitry ..

    Green is actually one of the worst in the spectrum for warm up.. still thou.. flick it on.. 3-8 seconds..





    'hdz


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,279 ✭✭✭4200fps


    moby30 wrote: »
    The one that costs that much is the laser genetics nd3X50. It is good but would want to be for that price. heres a break down if it helps:

    Laser genetics ND3 150-200 euros roughly
    complete waste of money
    Laser genetics ND3x50 300-400 euros roughly
    Good but wont work in the cold weather-Not suitable for use in Ireland IMO
    Laser genetics ND3x50 350-500 euros roughly
    Sub Zero(The only one suitable for our weather as it can be used in extreme cold)
    Laser genetics ND5 250-350 euros roughly
    This is IMO quite good but its a hand held torch and not really suitable for mounting on a scope. A friend of mine has but involved a lot of duct tape, led lenser clamps and elastic bands so not really ideal.

    As you can see and again its only my opinion the ND3x50 Sub-Zero is the only one of the Laser Genetics that is suitable for the Irish Market. It is almost as big as your scope with a bit of weight to it and the mounts that come with it are just not up to the job so thats why you always hear people giving out about that. It is something you could possibly fix but the big decider for me is the Price.

    Optimus N3 135-150 euros
    (Just not powerful enough)

    Optimus N5 180-199 euros
    More powerful than any of the above and less than half the price in some cases. its also a lot smaller than the Laser Genetics and this makes a huge difference as its far more secure on the scope. Its also much easier to adjust.
    The sellerit will work in all temperature and so far mine has albeit it might take a couple of seconds to get up to full power BUT I only got it a few months back so havent had the chance to try it in very cold conditions yet.
    If you seen the Optimus side by side with the Laser Genetics the build Quality is not as good but from my point of view who cares as it better anyway and where I do a lot of fox shooting I cannot justify spending 400+ euros anyway.
    Hope that helps
    Very well wrote and explained to a T. Thanks Moby ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 519 ✭✭✭gearoidol


    Well feck the lot of yee , all yeer yapping just made me order one.

    Can yee tell me does it come with a mount to go to a 30 mm tube


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 764 ✭✭✭hedzball


    gearoidol wrote: »
    Well feck the lot of yee , all yeer yapping just made me order one.

    Can yee tell me does it come with a mount to go to a 30 mm tube

    its a 30mm mount with a sleeve for 25 :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 519 ✭✭✭gearoidol


    hedzball wrote: »

    its a 30mm mount with a sleeve for 25 :)

    Thanks alot really looking forward to it.

    Do u have to do much elavtion adjustment out in the field to keep the laser in the scope view when shooting foxs at 100 - 150 -200 yards?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 80 ✭✭stoeger2000


    moby30 wrote: »
    The one that costs that much is the laser genetics nd3X50. It is good but would want to be for that price. heres a break down if it helps:

    Laser genetics ND3 150-200 euros roughly
    complete waste of money
    Laser genetics ND3x50 300-400 euros roughly
    Good but wont work in the cold weather-Not suitable for use in Ireland IMO
    Laser genetics ND3x50 350-500 euros roughly
    Sub Zero(The only one suitable for our weather as it can be used in extreme cold)
    Laser genetics ND5 250-350 euros roughly
    This is IMO quite good but its a hand held torch and not really suitable for mounting on a scope. A friend of mine has but involved a lot of duct tape, led lenser clamps and elastic bands so not really ideal.

    As you can see and again its only my opinion the ND3x50 Sub-Zero is the only one of the Laser Genetics that is suitable for the Irish Market. It is almost as big as your scope with a bit of weight to it and the mounts that come with it are just not up to the job so thats why you always hear people giving out about that. It is something you could possibly fix but the big decider for me is the Price.

    Optimus N3 135-150 euros
    (Just not powerful enough)

    Optimus N5 180-199 euros
    More powerful than any of the above and less than half the price in some cases. its also a lot smaller than the Laser Genetics and this makes a huge difference as its far more secure on the scope. Its also much easier to adjust.
    The sellerit will work in all temperature and so far mine has albeit it might take a couple of seconds to get up to full power BUT I only got it a few months back so havent had the chance to try it in very cold conditions yet.
    If you seen the Optimus side by side with the Laser Genetics the build Quality is not as good but from my point of view who cares as it better anyway and where I do a lot of fox shooting I cannot justify spending 400+ euros anyway.
    Hope that helps


    have you got a link for where you bought yours please??

    i have found a "optimus green ld-50 sub zero" on ebay, how does that compare to the "N5"??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 218 ✭✭kfod


    I ordered the LD-50 Sub Zero from this fella about a week ago.

    http://www.sports-2-go.com/laser-designators-22-c.asp

    He has to wait on a shipment from Hong Kong or China or somewhere in that direction as he had no stock in the 25 - 30mm mount one, but in fairness he has been pretty good with replying to email and is expecting delivery by the end of next week.

    All going well that means it will be mounted onto my friends swift this day fortnight for a Saturday night of foxing. I'll update on it then. If the weather is anything like tonight will be I'd say it will test the low temp ability pretty well :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,010 ✭✭✭minktrapper


    What is approx. battery life and price.Can you use rechargable batteries.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 218 ✭✭kfod


    I think you can use rechargeable 18650 batteries and you can use 2 x cr123 rechargeables.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 74 ✭✭An truicear tochasach


    moby30 wrote: »
    The one that costs that much is the laser genetics nd3X50. It is good but would want to be for that price. heres a break down if it helps:

    Laser genetics ND3 150-200 euros roughly
    complete waste of money
    Laser genetics ND3x50 300-400 euros roughly
    Good but wont work in the cold weather-Not suitable for use in Ireland IMO
    Laser genetics ND3x50 350-500 euros roughly
    Sub Zero(The only one suitable for our weather as it can be used in extreme cold)
    Laser genetics ND5 250-350 euros roughly
    This is IMO quite good but its a hand held torch and not really suitable for mounting on a scope. A friend of mine has but involved a lot of duct tape, led lenser clamps and elastic bands so not really ideal.

    As you can see and again its only my opinion the ND3x50 Sub-Zero is the only one of the Laser Genetics that is suitable for the Irish Market. It is almost as big as your scope with a bit of weight to it and the mounts that come with it are just not up to the job so thats why you always hear people giving out about that. It is something you could possibly fix but the big decider for me is the Price.

    Optimus N3 135-150 euros
    (Just not powerful enough)

    Optimus N5 180-199 euros
    More powerful than any of the above and less than half the price in some cases. its also a lot smaller than the Laser Genetics and this makes a huge difference as its far more secure on the scope. Its also much easier to adjust.
    The sellerit will work in all temperature and so far mine has albeit it might take a couple of seconds to get up to full power BUT I only got it a few months back so havent had the chance to try it in very cold conditions yet.
    If you seen the Optimus side by side with the Laser Genetics the build Quality is not as good but from my point of view who cares as it better anyway and where I do a lot of fox shooting I cannot justify spending 400+ euros anyway.
    Hope that helps


    You should be getting commission! I'm seriously thinking of getting on this band wagon. I'm relatively new to the game with the limited experience of going after bunnies with me air rifle and a reasonably powerful super LED mounted on the scope.(super LED was designed for mountain biking). I think I got one bunny last year for all my trouble!

    I'm waiting for my licence to come through for a .22rimfire so am thinking of getting one of these - its not clear if the Optimus N3 is total rubbish or just not powerful enough for foxes? I'm only after bunnys so the range would be much shorter. Any tips/experience of the Optimus n3 welcome. I'ts probably worth spending the extra few bob for the N5 but cash is cash - never enoough to go round....thanks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 74 ✭✭An truicear tochasach


    What is approx. battery life and price.Can you use rechargable batteries.


    Anybody got the answer to this question - would be interested to know too?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 218 ✭✭kfod




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,010 ✭✭✭minktrapper


    I was looking through the BatteryCity.ie website and came accross a bicicle light called Magicshine.It has 1200 lumen and costs 120 euro.Anyone ever come accross it.Could it be adapted to a scope.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 965 ✭✭✭lb1981


    You should be getting commission! I'm seriously thinking of getting on this band wagon. I'm relatively new to the game with the limited experience of going after bunnies with me air rifle and a reasonably powerful super LED mounted on the scope.(super LED was designed for mountain biking). I think I got one bunny last year for all my trouble!

    I'm waiting for my licence to come through for a .22rimfire so am thinking of getting one of these - its not clear if the Optimus N3 is total rubbish or just not powerful enough for foxes? I'm only after bunnys so the range would be much shorter. Any tips/experience of the Optimus n3 welcome. I'ts probably worth spending the extra few bob for the N5 but cash is cash - never enoough to go round....thanks
    The N3 is grand on a .22 for rabbits ,i had it on my .223 but the field of view is too small for shots at distance so i stepped it up to the nd5.Battery wise they last ages ,i haven't changed mine in months but i have heard the rechargeable ones are no good and dont last that long ,to be honest for the few quid it cost for new ones you wouldnt need to change them enough to buy the charger and rechargable ones


  • Subscribers Posts: 336 ✭✭noeleire


    hi what is the distance the nd30 is good for on a .22


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 764 ✭✭✭hedzball


    gearoidol wrote: »
    Thanks alot really looking forward to it.

    Do u have to do much elavtion adjustment out in the field to keep the laser in the scope view when shooting foxs at 100 - 150 -200 yards?


    Well we were lookin at posts at 330 yards the other night on a 14x scope and had a field of view of about 20 odd feet ..

    we put it on its tightest (which you will never use) and was shining in on sheds 2kms odd away..

    kfod wrote: »



    Can't really compare a torch to a laser...

    far from swings and roundabouts..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 965 ✭✭✭lb1981


    hi what is the distance the nd30 is good for on a .22
    To be honest as far as your scope can see ,they are good it is just the field of view on the nd50 is larger


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 218 ✭✭kfod


    hedzball wrote: »

    Can't really compare a torch to a laser...

    far from swings and roundabouts..

    I think it is a laser no?

    here is the same only more expensive:

    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Green-laser-flashlight-for-night-vision-Adjustable-focus-night-hunting-20mm-rail-/121008012440?pt=UK_SportsLeisure_Camping_LightsLanternsTorches&hash=item1c2ca3bc98

    Like I said, only read that bit on some other forum, so don't know about them. I have the Optimus ld-50 on the way as I was happy with moby's recommendation of his Optimus and said I'd take a punt on one.


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