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Provincial Schools thread 2012-2013 *MOD WARNING POST 1*

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,976 ✭✭✭profitius


    The schools and Munster clash.
    Munster schools in revolt
    By Simon Lewis
    Friday, August 31, 2012
    Munster Rugby could be set for a legal battle over plans to introduce a one-year qualifying period before newly enrolled students can play in the Munster Schools Senior Cup.
    Following a new motion brought in by the Munster Branch Age Grade committee this month, players transferring from one school to another will, from the 2013-14 school year, be unable to compete for their new school in the Munster Senior Schools Cup for a year after enrolling.

    The threat of legal action against the motion comes following a summer of wrangling between schools, rugby clubs and the Munster Branch itself over player eligibility in the province’s most prestigious underage competition.

    ........ http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/munster-schools-in-revolt-205989.html


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,632 ✭✭✭ormond lad


    profitius wrote: »
    The schools and Munster clash.
    this is really to stop the likes of rockwell who have been taking several players from east munster and munster youths squads for the past few years.
    for example rockwell had several players in their 22 for the senior cup final last march who only joined the school the previous september or later in the school year after being noticed playing for east munster u17 development squad or the munster youths
    Cillian Kiely, Steve McMahon, Dylan McGagh all started on the rockwell senior cup team in 2012 after joining the school the previous september and there was another few who subbed in the final or played in earlier rounds of the cup who had only joined the school the prev september.
    will be interesting to see how this plays out

    I agree with this rule to an extent. the schools cant be allowed pick 40+ players and not release some to play clubs rugby while at the same time going to the clubs and taking some of the better players.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,976 ✭✭✭profitius


    ormond lad wrote: »
    this is really to stop the likes of rockwell who have been taking several players from east munster and munster youths squads for the past few years.
    for example rockwell had several players in their 22 for the senior cup final last march who only joined the school the previous september or later in the school year after being noticed playing for east munster u17 development squad or the munster youths
    Cillian Kiely, Steve McMahon, Dylan McGagh all started on the rockwell senior cup team in 2012 after joining the school the previous september and there was another few who subbed in the final or played in earlier rounds of the cup who had only joined the school the prev september.
    will be interesting to see how this plays out

    I agree with this rule to an extent. the schools cant be allowed pick 40+ players and not release some to play clubs rugby while at the same time going to the clubs and taking some of the better players.

    Indeed. Things are weighed too heavily towards the schools at the moment.

    On the positive side, they help scout some of the best underage players.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,632 ✭✭✭ormond lad


    profitius wrote: »
    Indeed. Things are weighed too heavily towards the schools at the moment.

    On the positive side, they help scout some of the best underage players.
    The coaching for many kids is as good in clubs in many ways. the biggest thing the schools have is that their games are publicised more, there is v few games in competition and at every game the whole munster development staff, and some academy staff are there watching. the only youths rugby games that get the same attention are the regional development games and those squads dont contain all the best youths rugby players


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,632 ✭✭✭ormond lad


    Anyone going to the interpros this week? How do people see them going?

    friendlies between the schools have started
    Blackrocks senior cup team played Blackrocks club u21 side yesterday.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 100 ✭✭rugbyman2015


    ormond lad wrote: »
    Anyone going to the interpros this week? How do people see them going?

    friendlies between the schools have started
    Blackrocks senior cup team played Blackrocks club u21 side yesterday.

    Any idea how Rock got on in that game?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,632 ✭✭✭ormond lad


    Any idea how Rock got on in that game?
    sorry no idea. havent seen a result to the game


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,178 ✭✭✭Quint2010


    LEINSTER SCHOOLS (UNDER-18): 15: Billy Dardis (Terenure College)
    14: Cormac Brennan (Cistercian College Roscrea)
    13: Fergal Cleary (Clongowes Wood College SJ)
    12: Harrison Brewer (Terenure College)
    11: James McCormack (Castleknock College)
    10: Ross Byrne (St. Michael's College)
    9: Nick McCarthy (St. Michael's College) CAPTAIN
    1: Oisin Heffernan (Cistercian College Roscrea)
    2: Graham Reynolds (The Kings Hospital)
    3: Oliver Jager (Blackrock College)
    4: David O'Connor (Blackrock College)
    5: Rory Moloney (Cistercian College Roscrea) LEADER
    6: Josh Murphy (St. Michael's College)
    7: Patrick Thornton (Terenure College)
    8: Nick Timoney (Blackrock College)
    REPLACEMENTS:
    16: Andrew Roche (Terenure College)
    17: Eric O'Sullivan (Templeogue College)
    18: Hugh O'Donnell (Newbridge College)
    19: James Ryan (St. Michael's College)
    20: Alex Penny (St. Michael's College)
    21: Tim Schmidt (Terenure College)
    22: Michael Courtney (CBC Monkstown)
    23: Andy Marks (Gonzaga College SJ)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,632 ✭✭✭ormond lad


    Quint2010 wrote: »
    LEINSTER SCHOOLS (UNDER-18): 15: Billy Dardis (Terenure College)
    14: Cormac Brennan (Cistercian College Roscrea)
    13: Fergal Cleary (Clongowes Wood College SJ)
    12: Harrison Brewer (Terenure College)
    11: James McCormack (Castleknock College)
    10: Ross Byrne (St. Michael's College)
    9: Nick McCarthy (St. Michael's College) CAPTAIN
    1: Oisin Heffernan (Cistercian College Roscrea)
    2: Graham Reynolds (The Kings Hospital)
    3: Oliver Jager (Blackrock College)
    4: David O'Connor (Blackrock College)
    5: Rory Moloney (Cistercian College Roscrea) LEADER
    6: Josh Murphy (St. Michael's College)
    7: Patrick Thornton (Terenure College)
    8: Nick Timoney (Blackrock College)
    REPLACEMENTS:
    16: Andrew Roche (Terenure College)
    17: Eric O'Sullivan (Templeogue College)
    18: Hugh O'Donnell (Newbridge College)
    19: James Ryan (St. Michael's College)
    20: Alex Penny (St. Michael's College)
    21: Tim Schmidt (Terenure College)
    22: Michael Courtney (CBC Monkstown)
    23: Andy Marks (Gonzaga College SJ)
    Interesting to see how they get on. will def try and go to their game in thomond wednesday week
    the outside centre fergal clearly is a v good player. was an irish youth last march/april
    will be interesting to see that centre partnership
    apart from those 2 mainly want to see how no 7, 15 and 21 get on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,178 ✭✭✭Quint2010


    ormond lad wrote: »
    Interesting to see how they get on. will def try and go to their game in thomond wednesday week
    the outside centre fergal clearly is a v good player. was an irish youth last march/april
    will be interesting to see that centre partnership
    apart from those 2 mainly want to see how no 7, 15 and 21 get on

    Didn't know you were a 'Nure man Ormond!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,632 ✭✭✭ormond lad


    Quint2010 wrote: »
    Didn't know you were a 'Nure man Ormond!
    ha ha. thanks for pointing that out :D. apart from clongowes irish youths player at 13 theyre the names that really stand out to me
    connachts u18 side's been named for wednesdays game v munster in cork
    http://domestic.connachtrugby.ie/201209032281/


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,632 ✭✭✭ormond lad


    Ulsters u18 schools team to play leinster tomorrow has been named. from here
    15. Jack Owens (Campbell College)
    14. Rudolph Benade (Methodist College)
    13. John McClure (RBAI)
    12. Rory Bell (RBAI)
    11. Rory Campbell (RBAI)
    10. Conor Shiels (Coleraine AI)
    9. Josh Fullerton (Campbell College)
    1. Michael Lagan (Methodist College)
    2. Max Montgomery (Bangor GS)
    3. Aaron Gilkinson (Wallace HS)
    4. Lewis Benson (Belfast HS)
    5. Thomas Donnan (Down HS)
    6. Daniel Dass (BRA)
    7. Andrew McGrath (RBAI)
    8. Daryl Morton (Captain, RS Armagh)
    Replacements:
    16. Andrew Shaw (Bangor GS)
    17. Rory Squires (Limavady GS)
    18. Conor McIlmurray (Campbell College)
    19. Alexander Thompson (Methodist College)
    20. Calvin Kernohan (Ballymena Academy)
    21. Peter Kidd (Coleraine AI)
    22. Jack Milligan (RS Dungannon)
    23. Connor McKee (Methodist College)
    Traveling Reserve:
    James Gallagher (Methodist College)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,632 ✭✭✭ormond lad


    Teams for tomorrows 18s schools interpro in cork http://www.munsterrugby.ie/domestic/news/10764
    Munster:
    Ben Riley (Rockwell College); Cormac Blake (Crescent Comprehensive), Jack Boland (Glenstal Abbey), Ben Kilkenny (St. Munchin’s), David St Ledger (Presentation Brothers College); Morgan Carey (Presentation Brothers College), Stephen McCarthy (Presentation Brothers College); Liam O’Connor (Christian Brothers College), Sean McNulty (Rockwell College), Luke O’Halloran (St. Munchin’s College); Mike O’Donnell (Crescent Comprehensive), Liam McMahon (Crescent Comprehensive); Denis O’Connell (Rockwell College), Frank Bradshaw Ryan (Ard Scoil Ris), Dylan Lane (Presentation Brothers College).
    Replacements: Ed Barry (Crescent Comprehensive), Gearoid Lyons (Crescent Comprehensive), Conor Flanagan (Presentation Brothers College), Steve McMahon (Rockwell College), Edward O’Keeffe (St. Munchin’s College), Thomas Quinlan (Christian Brothers College), Robbie Deegan (Ard Scoil Ris), J.J. O’Neill (Crescent Comprehensive), Greg O’Shea (Crescent Comprehensive), Aidan Moynihan (Rockwell College), Stephen Fitzgerald Ard Scoil Ris)

    Connacht: Cathal Evans (St Joseph's Patrician College, Galway); Finn Stoneman (Coláiste Éinde, Galway), Conor Lowndes (Coláiste Iognáid, Galway), Dwayne Corcoran (Rice College, Westport), Paddy Glavey (Glenstal Abbey); Sean Tobin (Rice College, Westport), Jason Mitchell (St Joseph's Patrician College, Galway); Conor Kyne (Coláiste Chroí Mhuire. Spiddal), Pat O'Toole (Sancta Maria College, Louisburgh), Craig Hansbury (Calasanctius College, Oranmore); Aaron Broderick (St Joseph's Patrician College, Galway), Peter Claffey (Portumna Community School); Evan Galvin (Marist College, Athlone), Kevin Hastings (Scoil Muire agus Padraig, Swinford), Jack Codyre (Garbally College, Ballinasloe). Replacements: Ciaran Gavin (Cistercian College Roscrea), Colin Joyce (St Joseph's Patrician College, Galway), Cathal Laheen (Holy Rosary College, Mountbellew), Rory Murphy (Ballinrobe Community School), Mark Kelly (Cistercian College Roscrea), Colin Keane (Presentation College, Headford), Sean Doyle (Moate Community School), Harry Hughes (Marist College, Athlone), Sean Dempsey (Marist College, Athlone).


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2 james flannery


    surely ross bailey-kearney has not been excluded from this squad?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,632 ✭✭✭ormond lad


    Leinster u18 schools beating Ulster u18 schools 33-5 at halftime.
    Munster u18 schools beating connacht u18s 13-6 at halftime


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,632 ✭✭✭ormond lad


    Munster beat Connacht 23-15 in u18 schools. havent seen result from leinster game yet


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,257 ✭✭✭Hagz




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,632 ✭✭✭ormond lad


    I had heard Ulster were not great at u18 schools level this year so this scoreline could easily be true
    ive seen a tweet or two that said the final score in todays leinster ulster interpro was an 85-6 win for leinster:eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,636 ✭✭✭✭Tox56


    Hopefully that's a sign of a good batch of Leinster players


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,632 ✭✭✭ormond lad


    Tox56 wrote: »
    Hopefully that's a sign of a good batch of Leinster players
    result was act 68-5
    Match report up now
    http://www.leinsterrugby.ie/domestic/newsroom/10253.php


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 630 ✭✭✭fox_1973


    ormond lad wrote: »
    result was act 68-5
    Match report up now
    http://www.leinsterrugby.ie/domestic/newsroom/10253.php

    Was at the game today and it was a fine display by Leinster, some lovely moves with the usual suspects all having a good game, but in saying that Ulster really were not up to the standard they should of been, a bit sloppy at times, and giving away far too much ball but all in all looking forward to seeing the U18's again


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,632 ✭✭✭ormond lad


    ormond lad wrote: »
    Munster beat Connacht 23-15 in u18 schools. havent seen result from leinster game yet
    Match report from this game http://www.munsterrugby.ie/domestic/news/10774


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,178 ✭✭✭Quint2010


    Holy God-68-5? Noel McNamara-isn't he the 'Michaels coach behind their recent success? Must be destined for greater things at this stage? There seems to be quite an even spread of representation in terms of schools on the '18's and '19's Leinster teams this year. Augers well for a very competitive cup!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,632 ✭✭✭ormond lad


    Quint2010 wrote: »
    Holy God-68-5? Noel McNamara-isn't he the 'Michaels coach behind their recent success? Must be destined for greater things at this stage? There seems to be quite an even spread of representation in terms of schools on the '18's and '19's Leinster teams this year. Augers well for a very competitive cup!
    Good even spread of players between the schools in 18s squad. there's also a few roscrea players in connacht squads
    some of the schools friendly fixtures are up online now. terenure play michaels before the end of this month. both michaels/'nure have some of their fixtures for SC up online


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,632 ✭✭✭ormond lad


    Ulsters 19s team to play Munsters 19s on saturday at 4pm in ravenhill
    http://www.intouchrugby.com/ulster u19 squad for munster
    15 Lorcan McGillian Malone RFC
    14 Neil Burns Foyle and Londonderry College
    13 Jordan Grattan Wallace High School
    12 Rob Haldane Campbell College
    11 Andrew Butler Queen’s University RFC
    10 Justin Rea Queen’s University RFC
    9 Jack Fleming Ballymena RFC
    1 Ross Kane Methodist College
    2 Peter Cromie Banbridge RFC
    3 Mark Gilkinson Lisburn RFC
    4 Luke Connolly Instonian’s RFC
    5 Scott Barr Brighton University
    6 David Marshall Malone RFC
    7 Josh Atkinson RBAI
    8 Paddy Anderson RBAI
    Replacements will be selected from:-
    Adam Kerr Queen’s University RFC
    Paddy Reid Ballyclare High School
    Michael Hoey Royal School, Armagh
    Scott Finlay Sullivan Upper School
    Russell Blair Ballymena RFC
    Shane McBurney Ballymena RFC
    Aaron Kennedy Banbridge Academy
    Alistair Wright Royal School, Armagh
    Harry Howard Campbell College


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,632 ✭✭✭ormond lad


    Leinster 19s play Old Belvedere's 21s in belvedere at 6pm tonight in Anglesea Road


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 630 ✭✭✭fox_1973


    ormond lad wrote: »
    Leinster 19s play Old Belvedere's 21s in belvedere at 6pm tonight in Anglesea Road

    Leinster 19s 24 - Old Belvedere 0


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,178 ✭✭✭Quint2010


    fox_1973 wrote: »
    Leinster 19s 24 - Old Belvedere 0

    Any idea of team or scorers?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 630 ✭✭✭fox_1973


    Quint2010 wrote: »
    Any idea of team or scorers?

    Same starting as Northhampton as far as i know, wasn't at the game so ill post scorers when I know


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 100 ✭✭rugbyman2015


    Leinster Youths beat Castleknock 22-5 at Coolmine this evening. Didn't take note of scorers, average game


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