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    #4742
    kunst nugget
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,375 ✭✭✭✭kunst nugget


    castletownman wrote: »
    I think that the new procedure of awarding 25 points to students who pass honours maths in the Leaving is further sign of the dumbing down of modern society. While I'm all for giving students the incentive to attempt a more challenging series of questions, I think the new policy is unfair towards students from previous years who may have missed out on their desired CAO course by a matter of a few points. For example, if I was awarded an extra 25 points for passing honours maths six years ago, I wouldn't have missed out on my desired course, and so wouldn't have chosen an Arts degree course I didn't have the heart for, and in turn still wouldn't have resentment from my mother for dropping out from said course.

    Or… you could have repeated your leaving and got the points you needed for your desired course which would have meant you wouldn't be moaning about it here six years later. Also, the points are expected to shot up next week so any advantage they might have got is looking like it will be negated.
    castletownman wrote: »
    I blame the popularity of reality TV for the increasing "dumbing down" of our secondary school educational programme

    Yes, ever since they got the makers of Big Brother in to formulate our Leaving Cert curriculum, it's gone completely downhill…


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    #4743
    Bacon and Cabbage
    Registered Users Posts: 228 ✭✭Bacon and Cabbage


    Everyone on fb is hugely overreacting to the "Cancer is funny because people die" page


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    #4744
    coffee_cake
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Politics Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 81,309 CMod ✭✭✭✭coffee_cake


    castletownman wrote: »
    I think that the new procedure of awarding 25 points to students who pass honours maths in the Leaving is further sign of the dumbing down of modern society. While I'm all for giving students the incentive to attempt a more challenging series of questions, I think the new policy is unfair towards students from previous years who may have missed out on their desired CAO course by a matter of a few points. For example, if I was awarded an extra 25 points for passing honours maths six years ago, I wouldn't have missed out on my desired course, and so wouldn't have chosen an Arts degree course I didn't have the heart for, and in turn still wouldn't have resentment from my mother for dropping out from said course.

    I blame the popularity of reality TV for the increasing "dumbing down" of our secondary school educational programme
    I agree it's silly, I think it just perpetuates the idea drilled into everyone's heads that "omg maths is hard and i cant do it"


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    #4745
    RayCon
    Registered Users Posts: 4,845 ✭✭✭RayCon


    The Soprano's - dont see the appeal
    Radiohead - dont see the appeal
    Bob Dylan - dont see the appeal


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    #4746
    Colmustard
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,836 ✭✭✭Colmustard


    bluewolf wrote: »
    I agree it's silly, I think it just perpetuates the idea drilled into everyone's heads that "omg maths is hard and i cant do it"

    That is so true, people usually form a mental block about maths, they think it is hard and only about numbers, when it is not. Its one of the most creative thing humans do. Its almost an art and we all have an innate sense of numbers.

    I always thought maths is thought badly, students should be thought the beauty of it first.


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    #4747
    Colmustard
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,836 ✭✭✭Colmustard


    RayCon wrote: »
    The Soprano's - dont see the appeal
    Radiohead - dont see the appeal
    Bob Dylan - dont see the appeal

    I thought the sopranos was only OK, Bob Dylan is meh and not a real poet, but radiohead needs time and they are brilliant.


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    #4748
    guttenberg
    Registered Users Posts: 960 ✭✭✭guttenberg


    Colmustard wrote: »
    That is so true, people usually form a mental block about maths, they think it is hard and only about numbers, when it is not. Its one of the most creative thing humans do. Its almost an art and we all have an innate sense of numbers.

    I always thought maths is thought badly, students should be thought the beauty of it first.
    Maybe the teaching standard for English should be improved too.:pac:


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    #4749
    Colmustard
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,836 ✭✭✭Colmustard


    guttenberg wrote: »
    Maybe the teaching standard for English should be improved too.:pac:

    I blame the spellchecker and in second place my anorexia.


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    #4750
    steddyeddy
    Registered Users Posts: 27,564 ✭✭✭✭steddyeddy


    castletownman wrote: »
    I think that the new procedure of awarding 25 points to students who pass honours maths in the Leaving is further sign of the dumbing down of modern society. While I'm all for giving students the incentive to attempt a more challenging series of questions, I think the new policy is unfair towards students from previous years who may have missed out on their desired CAO course by a matter of a few points. For example, if I was awarded an extra 25 points for passing honours maths six years ago, I wouldn't have missed out on my desired course, and so wouldn't have chosen an Arts degree course I didn't have the heart for, and in turn still wouldn't have resentment from my mother for dropping out from said course.

    I blame the popularity of reality TV for the increasing "dumbing down" of our secondary school educational programme

    Agreed and it further exacerbates the fact that the leaving cert often sends the wrong student into the wrong course. Those extra points could ensure someone more blessed with maths gets into chemistry over a natural chemistry student ect.

    The department of education are to blame for the dumbing down and no doubt about it. I can only talk about the science subjects but for years science lecturers in third level institutions have being fighting the department of education along with the teaching unions on this issue.


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    #4751
    fasttalkerchat
    Registered Users Posts: 5,652 ✭✭✭fasttalkerchat


    Colmustard wrote: »
    I always thought maths is thought badly, students should be thought the beauty of it first.
    guttenberg wrote: »
    Maybe the teaching standard for English should be improved too.:pac:

    I read it as "Maths is thought of badly (poorly) and students should thought (think) of the beauty of it first.
    Bad grammar but the spelling was fine :P


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    #4752
    Colmustard
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,836 ✭✭✭Colmustard


    fasttalkerchat wrote: »
    I read it as "Maths is thought of badly (poorly) and students should thought (think) of the beauty of it first.
    Bad grammar but the spelling was fine :P

    What can I say, I'm a numbers person and suffer from dysentery,


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    #4753
    Colmustard
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,836 ✭✭✭Colmustard


    The grammar FBI seem to be following me, its making parabolic.


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    #4754
    Voice of the Ages
    Registered Users Posts: 20 ✭Voice of the Ages


    I feel that people should be literally forced to vote.


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    #4755
    Colmustard
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,836 ✭✭✭Colmustard


    Voice of the Ages wrote: »
    I feel that people should be literally forced to vote.

    I THINK they are in France.


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    #4756
    K-9
    Registered Users Posts: 43,311 ✭✭✭✭K-9


    castletownman wrote: »
    I think that the new procedure of awarding 25 points to students who pass honours maths in the Leaving is further sign of the dumbing down of modern society. While I'm all for giving students the incentive to attempt a more challenging series of questions, I think the new policy is unfair towards students from previous years who may have missed out on their desired CAO course by a matter of a few points. For example, if I was awarded an extra 25 points for passing honours maths six years ago, I wouldn't have missed out on my desired course, and so wouldn't have chosen an Arts degree course I didn't have the heart for, and in turn still wouldn't have resentment from my mother for dropping out from said course.

    I blame the popularity of reality TV for the increasing "dumbing down" of our secondary school educational programme

    IIRC there used to be a similar incentive under the Matric system for the Universities. When that was abolished some called it dumbing down, can't win really.

    Mad Men's Don Draper : What you call love was invented by guys like me, to sell nylons.



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    #4757
    Colmustard
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,836 ✭✭✭Colmustard


    The imperial system of measurement is utterly moronic, its only used in America Liberia and Burma. But every now and again you bump into it and you have to decipher it. Anyway I am going for a pint.


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    #4758
    HalloweenJack
    Registered Users Posts: 7,096 ✭✭✭HalloweenJack


    Voice of the Ages wrote: »
    I feel that people should be literally forced to vote.
    I've been told that in Australia you get fined if you don't vote.


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    #4759
    end of the road
    Registered Users Posts: 29,027 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    Voice of the Ages wrote: »
    I feel that people should be literally forced to vote.

    why should they? surely as a grown adult its up to me to make the decisian to vote for myself? why would you care if i vote or not? what difference does it make to your life whether someone votes or not?

    ticking a box on a form does not make you of a religion.



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    #4760
    NinjaK
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 963 ✭✭✭NinjaK


    ye are all pathetic spoilt nerds hiding behind yer laptops with yer boring ass lives spouting ****e ha


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    #4761
    BeerSteakBirds
    Closed Accounts Posts: 502 ✭✭✭BeerSteakBirds


    end of the road wrote: »
    why should they? surely as a grown adult its up to me to make the decisian to vote for myself? why would you care if i vote or not? what difference does it make to your life whether someone votes or not?

    They should be stripped of all the rights that a democratic society affords them for free since they are not prepared to pay even the tiniest price for freedom i.e vote once every 5 years. Freedom is not free. If you mock the honor of voting then you deserve to be ruled by Saddam Hussein.


    ^^^^ Theres my unpopular opinion there although I dare say a few will agree with me lol


    edit * groan I just remembered that we have no choices at the ballot box ... oh the despair to have to choose between a giant douche and a turd sandwich every few years... obviously this unpopular opinion should apply most strongly in a properly run country...


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    #4762
    nacimroc
    Registered Users Posts: 518 ✭✭✭nacimroc


    No point forcing people who have no idea about politics/issues to vote! You will just end up with the most sensationalist politicians elected.

    The maths points bonus is a great idea! There are tens of thousands of people who have much better maths skills than this time last year. That was the idea behind it and it worked.

    The imperial system has its benefits. 1 inch made up of 16 parts for example. So it can be divided in half making 16,8,4,2,1! the metric systems goes to decimals after dividing it twice only. Although overall metric is better.

    Definitely unpopular opinions on this thread anyway :D


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    #4763
    Madam_X
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,327 ✭✭✭Madam_X


    NinjaK wrote: »
    ye are all pathetic spoilt nerds hiding behind yer laptops with yer boring ass lives spouting ****e ha
    And you're no different ha

    Forcing people to vote in a democracy would be irony epitomised.


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    #4764
    Cienciano
    Registered Users Posts: 14,255 ✭✭✭✭Cienciano


    nacimroc wrote: »
    3. The imperial system has its benefits. 1 inch made up of 16 parts for example. So it can be divided in half making 16,8,4,2,1! the metric systems goes to decimals after dividing it twice only. Although overall metric is better.

    That's a pretty shit benefit!


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    #4765
    fasttalkerchat
    Registered Users Posts: 5,652 ✭✭✭fasttalkerchat


    nacimroc wrote: »
    2. The maths points bonus is a great idea! There are tens of thousands of people who have much better maths skills than this time last year. That was the idea behind it and it worked.

    The way that maths exams work is that the questions get harder as you go on. This means that the first few questions that can get you a pass grade (and bonus points) could be answered by any idiot. So actually nothing has been learned that wouldn't be learned by adding these questions to the Junior cert syllabus.


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    #4766
    AllWasWell
    Registered Users Posts: 184 ✭✭AllWasWell


    I think bad grammar should be punishable by law


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    #4767
    fasttalkerchat
    Registered Users Posts: 5,652 ✭✭✭fasttalkerchat


    AllWasWell wrote: »
    I think bad grammar should be punishable by law.

    FYP :pac::p:D


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    #4768
    Neeson
    Registered Users Posts: 3,909 ✭✭✭Neeson


    Some people should be taken out and shot.


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    #4769
    krudler
    Registered Users Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    AllWasWell wrote: »
    I think bad grammar should be punishable by law

    No full stop.

    Death!


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    #4770
    1ZRed
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,293 ✭✭✭1ZRed


    Colmustard wrote: »
    The imperial system of measurement is utterly moronic, its only used in America Liberia and Burma. But every now and again you bump into it and you have to decipher it. Anyway I am going for a pint.

    That's true...

    On an unrelated matter, what's 8 inches in cm? :pac:


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    #4771
    end of the road
    Registered Users Posts: 29,027 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    i think text speak should be banned its evil
    i tnk txt spk shd b bnd, its evl.

    ticking a box on a form does not make you of a religion.



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