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Euro 2012 Betting

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  • Registered Users Posts: 187 ✭✭goodolegill


    I was looking at the tricast for Group C and I can see some value with William hills prices
    My thoughts are spain\croatia\italy in that order at 13/2

    Spain are technically on a superior level than anything in this group and will be unlikely to be challenged until they reach the semifinals. Fatigue and an impressive German side is all that stands in their way of capturing the European title again so topping their group to play either England, Sweden or Ukraine would be a must.

    So that leads me to Croatia and Italy - I don't believe there is much between these two sides but value swings in favour of Croatia, as alternative price is 4/1. I personally think that Ireland will be the whipping boys of the group as only an inspired shay given can save us from defeat in all our games. A defense with a Stephen ward & Sean st ledger doesn't scare anybody, a midfield that can't keep the ball & a strikeforce whose only regular starter for their team plays in the MLS. It's a team built for containment but not for chasing a lead so I'm afraid so they are bottom.

    Italy are not a great side and have many doubts within their side, a ponderous defense and question marks over who plays up front. Croatia too have an awful defense but I think what separates them to Italy and therefore adding the value is that they have a rich array of strikers currently in good form. Jelavic, Mandzuckic, Da silva and Olic a hard worker and is scoring when given the opportunities in Munich. Plus importantly Croatia play Spain in the final group game - Spain in euro 2008 played a reserve side against Greece in their final group knowing they had already qualified - the same could happen again given croatia a possible edge if all goes to plan with the two games prior.

    Tricast for group c

    1. Spain
    2. Croatia
    3. Italy
    4. Ireland

    William hill 13/2


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,773 ✭✭✭madma


    I was looking at the tricast for Group C and I can see some value with William hills prices
    My thoughts are spain\croatia\italy in that order at 13/2

    Spain are technically on a superior level than anything in this group and will be unlikely to be challenged until they reach the semifinals. Fatigue and an impressive German side is all that stands in their way of capturing the European title again so topping their group to play either England, Sweden or Ukraine would be a must.

    So that leads me to Croatia and Italy - I don't believe there is much between these two sides but value swings in favour of Croatia, as alternative price is 4/1. I personally think that Ireland will be the whipping boys of the group as only an inspired shay given can save us from defeat in all our games. A defense with a Stephen ward & Sean st ledger doesn't scare anybody, a midfield that can't keep the ball & a strikeforce whose only regular starter for their team plays in the MLS. It's a team built for containment but not for chasing a lead so I'm afraid so they are bottom.

    Italy are not a great side and have many doubts within their side, a ponderous defense and question marks over who plays up front. Croatia too have an awful defense but I think what separates them to Italy and therefore adding the value is that they have a rich array of strikers currently in good form. Jelavic, Mandzuckic, Da silva and Olic a hard worker and is scoring when given the opportunities in Munich. Plus importantly Croatia play Spain in the final group game - Spain in euro 2008 played a reserve side against Greece in their final group knowing they had already qualified - the same could happen again given croatia a possible edge if all goes to plan with the two games prior.

    Tricast for group c

    1. Spain
    2. Croatia
    3. Italy
    4. Ireland

    William hill 13/2

    whipping boys?

    hope you lose ur nuts on this bet


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,338 ✭✭✭yesno1234


    madma wrote: »
    whipping boys?

    hope you lose ur nuts on this bet

    Exactly, unbeaten in our last 12 but yet we're going to be the whipping boys and lose all 3 of our matches in the Euro's. Absolutely no team will want to play Ireland purely because we are so frustrating and hard to beat.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,033 ✭✭✭ForeverYoung90


    England to win Euro 2012 10/1.
    There I said it,the time has come for England to end the years of disappointment and hurt.They have seriously experienced top players such as Rooney,Lampard,Gerrard,Terry,Hart,Cole,Young,Parker,Wilshere.
    England to win the final vs Germany on penalties.
    Now lets be having you!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,338 ✭✭✭yesno1234


    England to win Euro 2012 10/1.
    There I said it,the time has come for England to end the years of disappointment and hurt.They have seriously experienced top players such as Rooney,Lampard,Gerrard,Terry,Hart,Cole,Young,Parker,Wilshere.
    England to win the final vs Germany on penalties.
    Now lets be having you!

    Wouldn't take it at 50/1


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,033 ✭✭✭ForeverYoung90


    yesno1234 wrote: »
    Wouldn't take it at 50/1
    Why?I just have a feeling that this "Golden Generation" can deliver.There isn't as much hype as Euro 2004/WC 2006/WC 2010 and this is as good a squad as those years imo.Missing Rooney for the first two games is a big blow but once he comes back who knows what they can achieve?

    Take Chelsea as a comparison.They have been big players in the Champions League since 05/06 but always fell at the latter stages ala England and now finally when written off they are in the final in 2012.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,136 ✭✭✭✭How Soon Is Now


    Really wanna make few bets on this for the summer. I wont be back in Ireland till start of June do yas reckon the odds will change much by then???

    Just id rather pop in store and compare whats going on in there to online.

    Really i guess whatever way offers the best value illl go with.


  • Registered Users Posts: 187 ✭✭goodolegill


    yesno1234 wrote: »
    Exactly, unbeaten in our last 12 but yet we're going to be the whipping boys and lose all 3 of our matches in the Euro's. Absolutely no team will want to play Ireland purely because we are so frustrating and hard to beat.

    I thought I would reply to your response other than than your over patriotic friend, I agree that as a team - we are frustrating to play against but I'm looking at the bet in terms of value. Newstalk asked over the course of 2 weeks it's pundits - how many points we would get and these experts said maximum 1 point. Look at it rationally, my point is that from the Croatia game with their strikers - we will be forever playing catch up and in a tournament with so many games in a sort period of time. Playing without the ball and pressing game especially after playing Spain will be hard for the players especially as trap doesn't like substitutions. Listen I was been a bit disingenuous when I said whipping boys but I don't think we will get a point, we are a poor technical team perfectly illustrated by playing the last 30 mins a man up against Armenia and struggling. How many points do u see us getting?? People are underestimating this Croatia side and overrated the Irish team - guts and hard work take u so far but against 3 teams in the worlds top 12, will get us as the Eurovision say nil poi!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,326 ✭✭✭batistuta9


    I could see ireland getting at least 2 points from croatia & italy. Maybe at a push even 4


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,351 ✭✭✭✭SteelyDanJalapeno


    Would love to see a market for goal difference for the end of the group stages, think there could be value in Ireland there, I'd price ireland +4 around evens or 10/11 maybe


  • Registered Users Posts: 279 ✭✭alfalion


    Really wanna make few bets on this for the summer. I wont be back in Ireland till start of June do yas reckon the odds will change much by then???

    Just id rather pop in store and compare whats going on in there to online.

    Really i guess whatever way offers the best value illl go with.


    yeh they will, example is lewandowski was 50-1 he scores a hat-trick sat and is at 33-1 now.

    For teams the last two weeks before the odds will change as most teams have at least two friendly games.


  • Site Banned Posts: 26,456 ✭✭✭✭Nuri Sahin


    England to win Euro 2012 10/1.
    There I said it,the time has come for England to end the years of disappointment and hurt.They have seriously experienced top players such as Rooney,Lampard,Gerrard,Terry,Hart,Cole,Young,Parker,Wilshere.
    England to win the final vs Germany on penalties.
    Now lets be having you!

    All I see is a bunch of players on the wane.. some over hyped along with Hart, Wilshire (crock) and Rooney (who didn't cover himself glory last time out).
    yesno1234 wrote: »
    Wouldn't take it at 50/1

    I wouldn't take it @ 100/1!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 187 ✭✭Rastapitts


    anybody else think Kherzakov for top goalscorer is a good bet? Handy enough group for Russia


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 642 ✭✭✭CrabieCrawford


    Was thinking of him myself, Coral have him at 100/1 which is worth a few yoyos.
    They have Keane and Doyle both at 150/1. Haven't used them before but seem to be a good bit ahead for the outsiders


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,687 ✭✭✭stingerro


    Have to admit I am surprised in faith some of you have in Russian forwards. They are terribly wasteful and will need plenty of chance to score goals. Just look at some of their games, for example against Ireland in Moscow, where they missed in some situations when I though it's not possible to miss.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 774 ✭✭✭stealinhorses


    Does anybody think Benzema is a good bet for top scorer? They're playing Ukraine and Sweden in the group stage. There doesn't seem to be much competition for him upfront in the national team and he'd be coming off the back of a good season.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 187 ✭✭Rastapitts


    Yes but the Greeks, Czechs and Polish dont have a Richard Dunne!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 559 ✭✭✭DB74


    stingerro wrote: »
    Have to admit I am surprised in faith some of you have in Russian forwards. They are terribly wasteful and will need plenty of chance to score goals. Just look at some of their games, for example against Ireland in Moscow, where they missed in some situations when I though it's not possible to miss.

    Every team has days like that.

    Personally I think you need someone with at least a 40% strike-rate to have a decent chance.

    Therefore Kerkhakov's strike-rate isn't good enough anyway as 17 goals from 58 caps is less than a 30% strike-rate.

    However for a striker likely to start at least 4 games and in arguably the weakest group too, 100/1 is still very tempting, if not for the place part.

    If you could be sure that he was going to start, I prefer Pavlyuchenko at the same odds. With 20 goals in 45 games, a strike-rate of 44.4% is more than good enough.


  • Site Banned Posts: 26,456 ✭✭✭✭Nuri Sahin


    Does anybody think Benzema is a good bet for top scorer? They're playing Ukraine and Sweden in the group stage. There doesn't seem to be much competition for him upfront in the national team and he'd be coming off the back of a good season.

    Short answer. Yes.

    I'm in the process of getting my Soldado bet changed to Benzema at present.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,687 ✭✭✭stingerro


    DB74 wrote: »
    Every team has days like that.

    Personally I think you need someone with at least a 40% strike-rate to have a decent chance.

    Therefore Kerkhakov's strike-rate isn't good enough anyway as 17 goals from 58 caps is less than a 30% strike-rate.

    However for a striker likely to start at least 4 games and in arguably the weakest group too, 100/1 is still very tempting, if not for the place part.

    If you could be sure that he was going to start, I prefer Pavlyuchenko at the same odds. With 20 goals in 45 games, a strike-rate of 44.4% is more than good enough.
    It wasn't a day off, Russians have a tendency to play attractive and attacking football combined with absolutely woeful finishing. Probably only Arshavin in his best period was a clinical finisher, despite not being a CF. Kerzhakov, Pavlyuchenko and Pogrebnyak are relatively poor in this aspect.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 559 ✭✭✭DB74


    Does anybody think Benzema is a good bet for top scorer? They're playing Ukraine and Sweden in the group stage. There doesn't seem to be much competition for him upfront in the national team and he'd be coming off the back of a good season.

    I don't fancy Benzema at all for this. If you look at France's group in qualifying, they scored 15 goals in 10 matches. However closer inspection shows that 9 of those goals came against Albania & Luxembourg, with the other 6 coming in the remaining 6 meaningful matches against half-decent opposition. France won't score enough goals IMO.

    For the same odds (20/1) you can get Klaas-Jan Huntelaar. International strike-rate of 62% (31 goals from 50 matches) and playing in a team which scored 15 goals from the 4 meaningful matches in qualifying (against Sweden & Hungary) and even then the last match was a dead rubber for the Dutch. Also we should see 2 teams from this group get to the semis so hopefully Huntelaar will have at least 5 matches and maybe even all 6 to win the title.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,106 ✭✭✭markc91


    Im after spending the last while comparing the strikers odds,games,goals and strike rate as said anyone over 40% has a good chance and the top 6 in the betting all have over 40% bar ronaldo(36%) and benzema(31%).

    One's I think have value are Huntelaar(62% the highest) at 20/1, Eduardo(49%) at 100/1 and of course Robbie Keane:D (48%) 150/1.
    Think they will be my 3 goalscorer bets


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,071 ✭✭✭✭wp_rathead


    Richard Dunne to score a Goal at the Euro's @ 6/1

    Mon Ireland


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,805 ✭✭✭✭Pudsy33


    wprathead wrote: »
    Richard Dunne to score a Goal at the Euro's @ 6/1

    Mon Ireland

    Where!?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,687 ✭✭✭stingerro


    wprathead wrote: »
    Richard Dunne to score a Goal at the Euro's @ 6/1

    Mon Ireland
    Do own goals count? :cool:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,632 ✭✭✭Del007


    Has ben foster come out of retirement for euro 2012? Seems to be conflicting stories in the media


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 559 ✭✭✭DB74




  • Registered Users Posts: 187 ✭✭goodolegill


    Goalscorer bets for Euro 2012

    Huntelaar 20/1 e/w
    Zlatan ibrahamovic 66/1 e/w

    Huntelaar top goal scorer in the qualifying with 12 goals so my big bet will be huntelaar top
    Netherlands scorer @ 4/1 - Van persie heads the market even though he only scored 6 goals, 4 of which were against San Marino. He plays more as a number 10 role & is shocking value in the golden boot market at 9/1.

    Zlatan at the prices has to be too big - takes penos & in a tournament with only 6 games - 3-4 goals will get u each way value. I'm not his biggest fan either but top goal scorer odds at 66/1 is far too big, golden boot winner in seria a & has a similar international strike record as christano Ronaldo but is 6 times the price. With guidetti definitely missing out & elmander likely to miss out due to injury - Zlatan becomes the focal point.

    Point being that there are plenty of doubts about the teams in group D & Ronaldo is in a much harder group & I think many bookies are judging their chances on their game against England at wembley & not their qualifying rounds performance and also Sweden have only failed to score in 3/25 of their international matches.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,326 ✭✭✭batistuta9


    elmander's been included for sweden. squad here

    Ola Toivonen could be worth a few bob if your looking to back a swede


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,071 ✭✭✭✭wp_rathead


    Pudsy33 wrote: »
    Where!?

    Right here on PP
    stingero wrote:
    Do own goals count?

    didn't say it was a banker:pac:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 477 ✭✭plasteritup


    Goalscorer bets for Euro 2012

    Huntelaar 20/1 e/w
    Zlatan ibrahamovic 66/1 each way

    Zlatan at the prices has to be too big - takes penos & in a tournament with only 6 games - 3-4 goals will get u each way value. I'm not his biggest fan either but top goal scorer odds at 66/1 is far too big, golden boot winner in seria a & has a similar international strike record as christano Ronaldo but is 6 times the price. With guidetti definitely missing out & elmander likely to miss out due to injury - Zlatan becomes the focal point.

    Point being that there are plenty of doubts about the teams in group D & Ronaldo is in a much harder group & I think many bookies are judging their chances on their game against England at wembley & not their qualifying rounds performance and also Sweden have only failed to score in 3/25 of their international matches.


    nice shout,having a small punt on that,great odds.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,625 ✭✭✭✭Johner


    Anyone think Darren Bent is worth a few quid at 7/2 to be in the England squad? I know he's been injured for most of the season but I still think he has a decent chance of going. Probably between him and Defoe for a place.


  • Site Banned Posts: 26,456 ✭✭✭✭Nuri Sahin


    Johner wrote: »
    Anyone think Darren Bent is worth a few quid at 7/2 to be in the England squad? I know he's been injured for most of the season but I still think he has a decent chance of going. Probably between him and Defoe for a place.

    Apparently, England's medical staff were at Villa's training ground last week to see him. Make of it what you will.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,136 ✭✭✭✭How Soon Is Now


    One thing im still bit confused with say i put 5 euro on Huntelar at 20/1 ew what do u get if he places 2nd 3rd or 4th????

    I see paddy do 1/4 places on top scorer bets so im trying to see what is the best bet an outright or ew.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,338 ✭✭✭yesno1234


    One thing im still bit confused with say i put 5 euro on Huntelar at 20/1 ew what do u get if he places 2nd 3rd or 4th????

    I see paddy do 1/4 places on top scorer bets so im trying to see what is the best bet an outright or ew.

    You'll get €30 back for a place.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,136 ✭✭✭✭How Soon Is Now


    yesno1234 wrote: »
    You'll get €25 back for a place.
    Thanks for the reply.

    Not trying to go to off topic but how did you work that out?

    Just wanna know for the future.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,338 ✭✭✭yesno1234


    Thanks for the reply.

    Not trying to go to off topic but how did you work that out?

    Just wanna know for the future.

    A €5 ew bet on Huntelaar is really two bets €5 at 20/1 for him to win outright and €5 for him to place at 1/4 the odds which is 5/1. So if he came 2nd,3rd,4th the place bet would win which would mean you win €25 and get you're €5 stake back, €30 in total sorry actually got it wrong in my first comment which probably confused you.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,185 ✭✭✭tinodz


    Johner wrote: »
    Anyone think Darren Bent is worth a few quid at 7/2 to be in the England squad? I know he's been injured for most of the season but I still think he has a decent chance of going. Probably between him and Defoe for a place.

    Sky Sports News are now saying Rio Ferdinand to be left out -not really helpful as you cannot really directly say there is a space for him now open - but there is a space open if they want to do something different.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,033 ✭✭✭ForeverYoung90


    Scholes to be selected for the England squad?Played great football since his return scoring 4 goals in 26 appearences.He was voted 3rd for league player of the year only playing half a season and just signed a one year contract with United.
    I think you would want to be mad not to ask such a seasoned professional to join up with the squad.If he wishes to return is the big question imo.:confused:
    Odds?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,625 ✭✭✭✭Johner


    tinodz wrote: »
    Sky Sports News are now saying Rio Ferdinand to be left out -not really helpful as you cannot really directly say there is a space for him now open - but there is a space open if they want to do something different.

    I backed Bent earlier anyway at 7/2, thought it was worth a bet.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,136 ✭✭✭✭How Soon Is Now


    yesno1234 wrote: »
    A €5 ew bet on Huntelaar is really two bets €5 at 20/1 for him to win outright and €5 for him to place at 1/4 the odds which is 5/1. So if he came 2nd,3rd,4th the place bet would win which would mean you win €25 and get you're €5 stake back, €30 in total sorry actually got it wrong in my first comment which probably confused you.

    Cheers thanks for explaining it to me i wasnt 100 percent sure only ever put on certain kinda bets.

    I fancy Huntelaar or Gomez for top goal scorer.

    But look at what happened with Tomas Muller in the world cup its hard to tell.

    I think the odds on Ibrahimovic is crazy at 50/1 considering hes always good for a few goals at any level.

    Was just thinking there has anyone put any money on any Spain players for top scorer??

    Just hard at minute not knowing about Villa fitness and who they will play come the first game.


    What i have in mind at the moment is this.


    Germany 10/3 2.50 euro ew = 17.50 outright

    Spain 5/2 2.50 euro ew = 14.38 outright

    Ibrahimovic 50/1 2.50 euro ew = 161.25 outright

    Huntelaar 20/1 5.00 euro ew = 135.00 outright

    Gomez 7/1 2.50 euro ew = 26.88 outright


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,632 ✭✭✭Del007


    Johner wrote: »
    tinodz wrote: »
    Sky Sports News are now saying Rio Ferdinand to be left out -not really helpful as you cannot really directly say there is a space for him now open - but there is a space open if they want to do something different.

    I backed Bent earlier anyway at 7/2, thought it was worth a bet.

    Can u still bet on this? I can't find it on paddy power


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,338 ✭✭✭yesno1234



    Germany 10/3 2.50 euro ew = 17.50 outright

    Spain 5/2 2.50 euro ew = 14.38 outright


    Ibrahimovic 50/1 2.50 euro ew = 161.25 outright

    Huntelaar 20/1 5.00 euro ew = 135.00 outright

    Gomez 7/1 2.50 euro ew = 26.88 outright

    Just a heads up it's not really worth backing anything under 4/1 e/w since your returns will be less than your stake.

    If Germany were to place you'd only get €4.58 back.
    If Spain were to place you'd only get €4.06 back.

    Not trying to tell you what to back just giving ya a heads up, best of luck.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 559 ✭✭✭DB74


    yesno1234 wrote: »
    Just a heads up it's not really worth backing anything under 4/1 e/w since your returns will be less than your stake.

    If Germany were to place you'd only get €4.58 back.
    If Spain were to place you'd only get €4.06 back.

    Not trying to tell you what to back just giving ya a heads up, best of luck.

    Not at 1/2 odds 1,2 which is standard terms for a football tournament

    Still a waste of money though backing either of the top 2 each-way IMO

    If you're backing the top 2 then I would go win-only

    If you're backing one of them then I would go win-only with half the stake and split the other half and back an outsider each-way, maybe on a team you fancy to cause an upset or 2.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 559 ✭✭✭DB74


    Another important thing to bear in mind when backing top goalscorer each-way is the possibility of a tie for the places, especially for 4th place. In this case, dead-heat rules will apply and the place portion could be decimated to next-to-nothing

    eg - suppose Gomez finishes tied for 4th spot with 3 other players. In this case only 1/4 of you place stake will win so you would get back €1.73 (by my calculations) instead of the €6.88 you were hoping for.

    Place odds of 7/4

    Place stake of €2.50 / 4 = €0.63 is the winning stake

    €0.63 @ 7/4 = €1.73


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,338 ✭✭✭yesno1234


    Sorry yeah I was thinking 1/4 of the odds, as is the goalscorer place odds, 1/2 for the team outrights. My bad:o


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,625 ✭✭✭✭Johner


    Del007 wrote: »
    Can u still bet on this? I can't find it on paddy power

    The markets were taken down yesterday evening as a few of the players who didn't make it were leaked. Still betting on betfair for it.


  • Site Banned Posts: 26,456 ✭✭✭✭Nuri Sahin


    Gutted I didn't put money on Ox. Oh Roy, You little rascal you.

    High as 4/1 last week. Those on Twitter might have jumped on my comment hopefully.


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,193 ✭✭✭✭Kerrydude1981


    With Rooney not playing for the first two games,what do you reckon the odds are on England not scoring in the first two games.


  • Registered Users Posts: 240 ✭✭daviddunne1992


    Ibrahimovic to be top Sweden goalscorer @ 3/1 on Coral (unless there is a better price for this that I cant see)


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