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  • #452
    youcancallmeal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,037 ✭✭✭youcancallmeal


    Beasty wrote: »
    No more warnings - do not post any info that either directly links to or could be used to readily search for that ad, or any other ads you may suspect have stolen gear

    Thanks

    Beasty

    Genuine question, why?
    Read through the charter and the boards guideline, maybe I missed it but couldn't see any reason why this wouldn't be allowed?


  • #453
    endacl
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,353 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    youcancallmeal wrote: »
    Beasty wrote: »
    No more warnings - do not post any info that either directly links to or could be used to readily search for that ad, or any other ads you may suspect have stolen gear

    Thanks

    Beasty

    Genuine question, why?
    Read through the charter and the boards guideline, maybe I missed it but couldn't see any reason why this wouldn't be allowed?
    +1 on this point. The bike had been stolen....


  • #454
    seamus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    Defamation. At the end of the day, it's the word of someone on boards -v- the word of someone on donedeal and neither can be verified.


  • #455
    youcancallmeal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,037 ✭✭✭youcancallmeal


    seamus wrote: »
    Defamation. At the end of the day, it's the word of someone on boards -v- the word of someone on donedeal and neither can be verified.

    Yeah sorry should of read the first post like it says in the title. I always just check the charter first :rolleyes:


  • #456
    endacl
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,353 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    seamus wrote: »
    Defamation. At the end of the day, it's the word of someone on boards -v- the word of someone on donedeal and neither can be verified.
    It's only defamation if its untrue. This was somebody advertising a stolen bike. If I say that you are a thief, you have been defamed. If you are a thief, and I refer to this fact, then you have not been defamed. The bike was stolen. The advertiser was selling on an 'unwanted gift'. That he had recently bought himself, for a suspiciously low price. As far as defamation goes, he'd hardly have a leg to stand on. I'll abide by the forum rules, but I'm not sure a link would be out of the question here. The seller has left the ad up. I didn't find it hard to find the ad, the seller's name and his phone number, all in under a minute. Why not a link?


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  • #457
    endacl
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,353 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    ...first post notwithstanding, of course...


  • #458
    seamus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    endacl wrote: »
    It's only defamation if its untrue.
    And how does boards.ie assert truth when all it has is your word?


  • #459
    endacl
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,353 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    seamus wrote: »
    endacl wrote: »
    It's only defamation if its untrue.
    And how does boards.ie assert truth when all it has is your word?
    Doesn't have my word. Has the account of the recovery, the ad, and the phone number of Finglas Garda station to check the facts.


  • #460
    Mycroft H
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,313 ✭✭✭Mycroft H


    endacl wrote: »
    Doesn't have my word. Has the account of the recovery, the ad, and the phone number of Finglas Garda station to check the facts.


    Has he been convicted in court yet?


  • #461
    seamus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    endacl wrote: »
    Doesn't have my word. Has the account of the recovery, the ad, and the phone number of Finglas Garda station to check the facts.
    And you expect boards to do that for every post containing possibly defamatory allegations? Plus. as in the post linked above, unless someone has been convicted in court, then using words like "thief" or "murderer" are on legally dodgy ground.


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  • #462
    endacl
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,353 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    BX 19 wrote: »
    endacl wrote: »
    Doesn't have my word. Has the account of the recovery, the ad, and the phone number of Finglas Garda station to check the facts.


    Has he been convicted in court yet?
    No. But he hasn't been accused of theft either. The only assertation is that a bike he advertised for sale was somebody else's property which had been stolen. Which it was. Of course he may claim innocence by way of ignorance, but 'unwanted gift' would suggest otherwise... I get your point, but have little sympathy for these ****s without whom there wouldn't be a chain of theft. If nobody was buying, or selling on, then stuff wouldn't be nicked in the first place.


  • #463
    droidus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,545 ✭✭✭droidus


    There is no evidence that the seller has stolen anything, but it is not defamatory to state the bike was stolen and the ad was for a stolen bike, especially as these facts have now been confirmed.


  • #464
    Beasty
    Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 77,533 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    We are all anonymous on boards (admitedly some less so than others). I cannot take the word of one member ahead of any other. Yes I have a posting history to go on, and that may influence how I (and other mods) deal with certain matters

    When it comes to stolen goods, or other allegations of illegal activity, the powers that be (and to be clear, that is not the mods) have decreed that making allegations against someone who has not been convicted of the relevant illegal activity is not allowed. There is a concern that Boards (or indeed you as members) could be held liable under the defamation law, and also there is a risk that information posted here could prejudice legal proceedings.

    It may be that the evidence appears overwhelming, but equally there will be all shades of grey involved if Boards were to allow posting of such information. Rather than leave any of this to judgement (and as linked to in the OP of this thread), no posting of such information is allowed

    Can we please leave it there, as there is no point in further discussion on the matter here. If anyone does want to raise this as a topic in itself, the Feedback forum is the place to discuss it

    Thanks

    Beasty


  • #465
    endacl
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,353 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    Beasty wrote: »
    We are all anonymous on boards (admitedly some less so than others). I cannot take the word of one member ahead of any other. Yes I have a posting history to go on, and that may influence how I (and other mods) deal with certain matters

    When it comes to stolen goods, or other allegations of illegal activity, the powers that be (and to be clear, that is not the mods) have decreed that making allegations against someone who has not been convicted of the relevant illegal activity is not allowed. There is a concern that Boards (or indeed you as members) could be held liable under the defamation law, and also there is a risk that information posted here could prejudice legal proceedings.

    It may be that the evidence appears overwhelming, but equally there will be all shades of grey involved if Boards were to allow posting of such information. Rather than leave any of this to judgement (and as linked to in the OP of this thread), no posting of such information is allowed

    Can we please leave it there, as there is no point in further discussion on the matter here. If anyone does want to raise this as a topic in itself, the Feedback forum is the place to discuss it

    Thanks

    Beasty
    Will do. Just frustrating ...


  • #466
    parko202
    Registered Users Posts: 200 ✭✭parko202


    Hi All,

    On tuesday evening 4 bikes were stolen from my shed in Dundrum, a note for people to keep an eye out for them on websites / shops etc. please. Really pissed off about it and going on a bit of a hunt at the weekend!

    1. Cube LTD Team - Black and Red. Changes to this bike are a shimano deore front disc brake, a Beone saddle and a thompson seat post:

    57168.jpg

    2. Beone Storm 2.0 - White, gold and black. Changes include a Charge Spoon saddle and new mavic aksium wheels:

    25458.jpg

    3. Specialized Langster - Silver. Changes include a brooks tan saddle, tiagra brakes and new rear wheel.

    specialized_langster_2009.jpg

    4. Cube womens racing bike - white and teal.

    If anyone has any idea about where to start looking (other than gumtree and done deal) it would be greatly appreciated.


  • #467
    endacl
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,353 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    parko202 wrote: »
    Hi All,

    On tuesday evening 4 bikes were stolen from my shed in Dundrum, a note for people to keep an eye out for them on websites / shops etc. please. Really pissed off about it and going on a bit of a hunt at the weekend!

    1. Cube LTD Team - Black and Red. Changes to this bike are a shimano deore front disc brake, a Beone saddle and a thompson seat post:

    57168.jpg

    2. Beone Storm 2.0 - White, gold and black. Changes include a Charge Spoon saddle and new mavic aksium wheels:

    25458.jpg

    3. Specialized Langster - Silver. Changes include a brooks tan saddle, tiagra brakes and new rear wheel.

    specialized_langster_2009.jpg

    4. Cube womens racing bike - white and teal.

    If anyone has any idea about where to start looking (other than gumtree and done deal) it would be greatly appreciated.
    Markets would be worth a look. The one on cumberland st has a certain reputation. Allegedly. No defamation intended. Beat of luck.


  • #468
    kenmc
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,277 ✭✭✭kenmc


    Which part of Dundrum? 4 in one night sounds like a very well organised operation :( I'm not far from Dundrum, so will keep an eye out.


  • #469
    mikerd4
    Registered Users Posts: 283 ✭✭mikerd4


    Is there a sticky regarding registering bikes with the gardai and any other online systems?


  • #470
    CramCycle
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 25,167 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    mikerd4 wrote: »
    Is there a sticky regarding registering bikes with the gardai and any other online systems?

    ATM Donnybrook and Irishtown are running a pilot scheme to put a registered bikes up on PULSE. Other posters have noted Bettystown have a similar scheme but AFAIK it does not use PULSE and there fore is limited to bikes owned in the area.
    Donnybrook Bicycle Registration Scheme

    The Donnybrook Bicycle Registration Scheme is a pilot scheme implemented by An Garda Siochana. It allows bicycle owners to register their bicycles with the Gardai. The details of the owner and the bicycle are recorded on the Pulse computer system. They can be retrieved if a bicycle is lost or stolen at a later date. Hundreds of unidentifiable recovered bicycles are sold at auction by An Garda Siochana each year. The bicycle’s serial number is the main means identification that will be used in this scheme.

    Members of the public have to bring their bicycles to Donnybrook or Irishtown Garda Stations to register.

    There was more in the quote but it related to my club so wasn't relevant here, most importantly have the Serial number in a readable condition on the bike so it can be checked eg wiper it down before you go in. Info to go on the form is listed below but you will need to bring in the bike to confirm. If you are ina club it might be worth getting someone who represents the club to go make a meeting with the local Sargent and ask would it be possible to do something similar there, maybe even hint at ringing Donnybrook or Irishtown to get details for their station.

    Bicycle Registration Form

    Bicycle Details (Block Capitals)

    Serial Number________________________

    Make_______________________________

    Model______________________________

    Colour______________________________

    Style: Mountain Bike
    Racing
    Standard
    Folding


    Owner Details (Block Capitals)

    Full Name

    Address

    Contact Number

    Email Address (optional)


  • #471
    Joxer_S
    Registered Users Posts: 275 ✭✭Joxer_S


    CramCycle wrote: »
    ATM Donnybrook and Irishtown are running a pilot scheme to put a registered bikes up on PULSE. Other posters have noted Bettystown have a similar scheme but AFAIK it does not use PULSE and there fore is limited to bikes owned in the area.

    The Bridewell Station has this too, I'm not sure if it's on PULSE or not though.


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  • #472
    Tayto2000
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 597 ✭✭✭Tayto2000


    mikerd4 wrote: »
    Is there a sticky regarding registering bikes with the gardai and any other online systems?

    Not yet...

    Info on Donnybrook Gardai scheme here

    Registration form (which can be emailed) here

    Alternative online registration system here.


  • #473
    vladdt
    Registered Users Posts: 19 ✭vladdt


    Stolen in Midleton, Co. Cork.
    I think it was sold in Cork, or around.

    This is Trek hardtail mountain bike, black with white writings. It have different then stock seat - bigger and with green S on him, like show on photos. It have additional plastic rims on him and also plastic holder for bottle, black an white.

    It was stolen in Midleton, from Mogeesha house, from locked storage room. (RFID logs and CCTV cameras around for better prestige).

    If anyone will see this bike - please, report the Garda. Or at least - write me a massage, because I don't think that Garda care about any crime in this country.


  • #474
    doc1976
    Registered Users Posts: 164 ✭✭doc1976


    Would it be any use sending the thread link to the Guards??

    It might wake them up as to the scale of what's happening?


    If people believe that all these thefts are just some opportunist scumbags doing this their for the birds.

    DOC


  • #475
    PurpleBee
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 274 ✭✭PurpleBee


    I was looking at a bike online and have become increasingly unsure as to whether its dodgy or not. Upon investigation the seller tells me he's selling the bike "for a friend," it seems to have been online for a while and no one has bid for it yet. Are these sure signs or should I give him the benefit of the doubt?


  • #476
    feck sake lads
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,889 ✭✭✭feck sake lads


    PurpleBee wrote: »
    I was looking at a bike online and have become increasingly unsure as to whether its dodgy or not. Upon investigation the seller tells me he's selling the bike "for a friend," it seems to have been online for a while and no one has bid for it yet. Are these sure signs or should I give him the benefit of the doubt?
    sounds dodgy to me ask loads of questions before you committ.


  • #477
    AIR-AUSSIE
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,596 ✭✭✭AIR-AUSSIE


    PurpleBee wrote: »
    I was looking at a bike online and have become increasingly unsure as to whether its dodgy or not. Upon investigation the seller tells me he's selling the bike "for a friend," it seems to have been online for a while and no one has bid for it yet. Are these sure signs or should I give him the benefit of the doubt?

    Ask for proof of purchase?


  • #478
    PurpleBee
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 274 ✭✭PurpleBee


    Problem is I made an offer and then I was told he was selling it for his mate. I doubt there's any chance of proof of purchase either given the bike was made in the early 90s. Ahhhhhhhhh!


  • #479
    seeing_ie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 382 ✭✭seeing_ie


    doc1976 wrote: »
    Would it be any use sending the thread link to the Guards??

    It might wake them up as to the scale of what's happening?


    If people believe that all these thefts are just some opportunist scumbags doing this their for the birds.

    DOC

    I'd say the bikes listed in this thread are just the tip of the iceberg.

    Guards are well aware of the scale of the problem imo.


  • #480
    Eru
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,357 ✭✭✭Eru


    doc1976 wrote: »
    Would it be any use sending the thread link to the Guards??
    Surely all these bikes have been reported as stolen with the same leverl of detail provided?

    doc1976 wrote: »
    It might wake them up as to the scale of what's happening?
    Gardai know about crime stats a lot more than the random person but how many people lock their bikes to trees / lamposts / etc away from racks?

    How much time can Gardai spend monitoring a specific bike rack?

    How many people don't report it?

    How many people don't have a clue about the serial number of their bike? Unless its a very very specialised bike that leaves the Gardai with no evidence to match your bike with the one Mr Scumbag is selling.
    dewindygap wrote: »
    Do the Gardaí treat these as serious crimes ?
    You think Gardai dont cycle anywhere and are immune from this crime? I am a Guard and I cycle.

    I have taken dozens of reports of bikes stolen where the best info I could get was "I locked it there yesterday morning and its a black mountain bike". WTF do you expect me to do with that kinda information? Watch every CCTV camera in the area for a 24 period looking for someone on a black bike????

    Then theres the reports made a week or two weeks after the fact because the persons insurance company told him "Hey you know who likes to hear about crime? The police". Again, where do we even begin when the owner wasn't even arsed about it in the first place?

    I have also recovered dozens of stolen bikes but I don't see any threads about it here. Most of them I was able to match to owners but then theres the ones that could not be matched because I can't magically match the black Trek I have with the hundreds reported without serial numbers OR were never reported stolen to begin with.

    And just to finish, how many people have called into the Garda stations to look at the recovered bikes sitting there not matched up????

    Sorry to hijack a good worthwhile thread but these comments are really unfair and make my blood boil.


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  • #481
    k123456
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,184 ✭✭✭k123456


    Hi Eru

    Can bike owners register the bike serial number online with the GArdai


  • #482
    endacl
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,353 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    Eru wrote: »
    doc1976 wrote: »
    Would it be any use sending the thread link to the Guards??
    Surely all these bikes have been reported as stolen with the same leverl of detail provided?

    doc1976 wrote: »
    It might wake them up as to the scale of what's happening?
    Gardai know about crime stats a lot more than the random person but how many people lock their bikes to trees / lamposts / etc away from racks?

    How much time can Gardai spend monitoring a specific bike rack?

    How many people don't report it?

    How many people don't have a clue about the serial number of their bike? Unless its a very very specialised bike that leaves the Gardai with no evidence to match your bike with the one Mr Scumbag is selling.
    dewindygap wrote: »
    Do the Gardaí treat these as serious crimes ?
    You think Gardai dont cycle anywhere and are immune from this crime? I am a Guard and I cycle.

    I have taken dozens of reports of bikes stolen where the best info I could get was "I locked it there yesterday morning and its a black mountain bike". WTF do you expect me to do with that kinda information? Watch every CCTV camera in the area for a 24 period looking for someone on a black bike????

    Then theres the reports made a week or two weeks after the fact because the persons insurance company told him "Hey you know who likes to hear about crime? The police". Again, where do we even begin when the owner wasn't even arsed about it in the first place?

    I have also recovered dozens of stolen bikes but I don't see any threads about it here. Most of them I was able to match to owners but then theres the ones that could not be matched because I can't magically match the black Trek I have with the hundreds reported without serial numbers OR were never reported stolen to begin with.

    And just to finish, how many people have called into the Garda stations to look at the recovered bikes sitting there not matched up????

    Sorry to hijack a good worthwhile thread but these comments are really unfair and make my blood boil.
    Exceptionally well put. Thanks for commenting.


  • #483
    spikeprint
    Closed Accounts Posts: 114 ✭✭spikeprint


    To be fair Eru, I reported 4 bikes stolen, one that was hand spray painted with tiger strips, and all with their own identifiable quirks that I would recognise. Never once had a call back telling me anything. In the Bridewell Station the Guard took down the details on a scrap of paper, not a police report. He seemed annoyed I was reporting that crime. Everytime I was told that nothing could be done and I would never see my bike again.

    I don't buy that nothing more could be done. There is one website with pictures of recovered garda bikes that hasn't been updated in a long time. Perhaps a thread here created by the Gardai would be of some benefit, rather than a pile of bikes sitting in a yard waiting to be auctioned off because no one has claimed them. Or perhaps use some of these bikes as bait bikes, with some type of tracking devices fitted. Something more needs to be done. If it was a spate of burglaries in an area it would would make the news. Some of these bikes cost up to €1,000, even more, and there is no strategy to stop it.

    I find it really unfair and it makes my blood boil.


  • #484
    doc1976
    Registered Users Posts: 164 ✭✭doc1976


    spikeprint wrote: »
    To be fair Eru, I reported 4 bikes stolen, one that was hand spray painted with tiger strips, and all with their own identifiable quirks that I would recognise. Never once had a call back telling me anything. In the Bridewell Station the Guard took down the details on a scrap of paper, not a police report. He seemed annoyed I was reporting that crime. Everytime I was told that nothing could be done and I would never see my bike again.

    I don't buy that nothing more could be done. There is one website with pictures of recovered garda bikes that hasn't been updated in a long time. Perhaps a thread here created by the Gardai would be of some benefit, rather than a pile of bikes sitting in a yard waiting to be auctioned off because no one has claimed them. Or perhaps use some of these bikes as bait bikes, with some type of tracking devices fitted. Something more needs to be done. If it was a spate of burglaries in an area it would would make the news. Some of these bikes cost up to €1,000, even more, and there is no strategy to stop it.

    I find it really unfair and it makes my blood boil.

    Totally agree. A guard passed me as I discovered my bike stolen from the top of Grafton St. He took down my details with the a pen that half worked and told me I'd receive a report in the post. I hadn't received a report in a abt a week so I followed it up in Pearse St station, nothing was logged on the system and I was told to come back in a couple of days. Did that and still nothing done. I also said to him that it had to be caught on camera as there is cctv at the top of the street but that seemed like to much trouble to check. I offered to watch the cctv but was told no.

    Also, most recovered bikes on here seem to be due to the owners endeavour, rather than being reunited to them by the boys in blue.

    Furthermore, it's my belief that these thefts are being done by an organised group. Just read the amount of post about the bikes stands being removed rather than the bike lock being cut and also that volume of bikes taken from garden sheds.


    Can someone clarify if serial numbers are individual to the bike or just a batch number produced in production?


  • #485
    AIR-AUSSIE
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,596 ✭✭✭AIR-AUSSIE


    doc1976 wrote: »
    Totally agree. A guard passed me as I discovered my bike stolen from the top of Grafton St. He took down my details with the a pen that half worked and told me I'd receive a report in the post. I hadn't received a report in a abt a week so I followed it up in Pearse St station, nothing was logged on the system and I was told to come back in a couple of days. Did that and still nothing done. I also said to him that it had to be caught on camera as there is cctv at the top of the street but that seemed like to much trouble to check. I offered to watch the cctv but was told no.

    Also, most recovered bikes on here seem to be due to the owners endeavour, rather than being reunited to them by the boys in blue.

    Furthermore, it's my belief that these thefts are being done by an organised group. Just read the amount of post about the bikes stands being removed rather than the bike lock being cut and also that volume of bikes taken from garden sheds.


    Can someone clarify if serial numbers are individual to the bike or just a batch number produced in production?

    Serial numbers are unique to each individual bike.


  • #486
    CardinalJ
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,306 ✭✭✭CardinalJ


    http://stolenbikelog.blogspot.com/

    Could become useful if enough people send in their info.


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  • #487
    tipperaryjim
    Closed Accounts Posts: 119 ✭✭tipperaryjim


    Hi all,

    My Black Trek 3900 Mountain Bike with disc brakes was stolen from the secure underground car park of my workplace today, much to my disbelief.

    To add to the misery of the situation, the management company failed to inform everyone in the building that the electronic shutter gates to the car park were not working today so it was pretty much a free for all for anyone looking to get up to some thievery.

    To the best of my knowledge, 5/6 bikes were taken.

    My bike was not locked at the time, nor were any of the others - naive I know but it was in a secure underground car park.

    Just wondering if anyone knows if I have any entitlement against the management company with regards to getting compensation for my bike? Taking due diligence/duty of care into account, surely the fact that the gate was out of order today and we were never notified of this gives weight to my case?

    (I acknowledge the irony in my duty of care argument above for failing to have the bike locked!).


  • #488
    endacl
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,353 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    tipperaryjim wrote: »
    Hi all,

    My Black Trek 3900 Mountain Bike with disc brakes was stolen from the secure underground car park of my workplace today, much to my disbelief.

    To add to the misery of the situation, the management company failed to inform everyone in the building that the electronic shutter gates to the car park were not working today so it was pretty much a free for all for anyone looking to get up to some thievery.

    To the best of my knowledge, 5/6 bikes were taken.

    My bike was not locked at the time, nor were any of the others - naive I know but it was in a secure underground car park.

    Just wondering if anyone knows if I have any entitlement against the management company with regards to getting compensation for my bike? Taking due diligence/duty of care into account, surely the fact that the gate was out of order today and we were never notified of this gives weight to my case?

    (I acknowledge the irony in my duty of care argument above for failing to have the bike locked!).
    This would be a question best put to a solicitor, I suspect....


  • #489
    feck sake lads
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,889 ✭✭✭feck sake lads


    are there any disclaimers on the walls of the garage if not they could be liable just a pity the honest folk has to suffer the loss because of bloody thiefs.:mad:
    hope you get a result one way or the other.


  • #490
    Tayto2000
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 597 ✭✭✭Tayto2000


    spikeprint wrote: »
    To be fair Eru, I reported 4 bikes stolen, one that was hand spray painted with tiger strips, and all with their own identifiable quirks that I would recognise. Never once had a call back telling me anything. In the Bridewell Station the Guard took down the details on a scrap of paper, not a police report. He seemed annoyed I was reporting that crime. Everytime I was told that nothing could be done and I would never see my bike again.

    I don't buy that nothing more could be done. There is one website with pictures of recovered garda bikes that hasn't been updated in a long time. Perhaps a thread here created by the Gardai would be of some benefit, rather than a pile of bikes sitting in a yard waiting to be auctioned off because no one has claimed them. Or perhaps use some of these bikes as bait bikes, with some type of tracking devices fitted. Something more needs to be done. If it was a spate of burglaries in an area it would would make the news. Some of these bikes cost up to €1,000, even more, and there is no strategy to stop it.

    I find it really unfair and it makes my blood boil.

    Did your report include the serial number? Because everything else, including paintjobs etc (2 mins with a matt black spray can and I've got a nice unidentifiable beater) are useless as evidence of ownership. Quirks you might recognise are of no use to a Garda who has recovered a stolen bike. Serial number, serial number, serial number. There's a reason they're what's used to ID stolen cars and motorcycles as well - everything else is too easily changed.


  • #491
    spikeprint
    Closed Accounts Posts: 114 ✭✭spikeprint


    Tayto2000 wrote: »
    Did your report include the serial number? Because everything else, including paintjobs etc (2 mins with a matt black spray can and I've got a nice unidentifiable beater) are useless as evidence of ownership. Quirks you might recognise are of no use to a Garda who has recovered a stolen bike. Serial number, serial number, serial number. There's a reason they're what's used to ID stolen cars and motorcycles as well - everything else is too easily changed.

    Since one of the bikes was brand new I still had the reciepts and serial numbers. As soon as the bike was stolen I went directly to Rathmines Garda station to report it. I told them that I could furnish them with the serial number and if they wanted it they could ring me. I haven't heard back from them. That was four months ago. If they have a database surely they would ring me for my serial number to check it against any they have.
    Tayto2000 wrote: »
    Serial number, serial number, serial number.
    I doubt that it would even help, there's no system between stations to put all those numbers on a database. A nice job for a new rookie to take on, would solve a lot of issues...


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  • #492
    LugsB
    Registered Users Posts: 36 ✭LugsB


    tipperaryjim wrote: »
    Hi all,

    My Black Trek 3900 Mountain Bike with disc brakes was stolen from the secure underground car park of my workplace today, much to my disbelief.

    To add to the misery of the situation, the management company failed to inform everyone in the building that the electronic shutter gates to the car park were not working today so it was pretty much a free for all for anyone looking to get up to some thievery.

    To the best of my knowledge, 5/6 bikes were taken.

    My bike was not locked at the time, nor were any of the others - naive I know but it was in a secure underground car park.

    Just wondering if anyone knows if I have any entitlement against the management company with regards to getting compensation for my bike? Taking due diligence/duty of care into account, surely the fact that the gate was out of order today and we were never notified of this gives weight to my case?

    (I acknowledge the irony in my duty of care argument above for failing to have the bike locked!).

    I had a Trek 6000 MTB hard tail stolen from "the secure bicycle lockup" in the basement of my apartment block, Shelbourne Park Apartments. There is no cover by the management company, they didn't want to know and were not interested.

    Nearly every single person I know that purchased a bike on the cycle to work scheme has had it stolen.


  • #493
    Tayto2000
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 597 ✭✭✭Tayto2000


    spikeprint wrote: »
    Since one of the bikes was brand new I still had the reciepts and serial numbers. As soon as the bike was stolen I went directly to Rathmines Garda station to report it. I told them that I could furnish them with the serial number and if they wanted it they could ring me. I haven't heard back from them. That was four months ago. If they have a database surely they would ring me for my serial number to check it against any they have.

    If you didn't supply the serial number it's unlikely to have made it onto the pulse system. Gardai aren't going to chase you for missing information, you need to supply it, any other Garda looking at the report is just going to assume that you're one of the hundreds who didn't have it recorded.
    spikeprint wrote: »
    I doubt that it would even help, there's no system between stations to put all those numbers on a database. A nice job for a new rookie to take on, would solve a lot of issues...

    There is, the nice thing about the new registration system in Donnybrook and Irishtown is that the data goes on the Pulse system, which means it's nationwide and available to all gardai. At the risk of repeating myself though, you need to get the serial number on there to stand a chance, ahead of time if possible. Again, here are the links to the scheme info:


    http://www.scribd.com/doc/79879439/Donnybrook-Gardai-Bicycle-Registration-Scheme

    http://www.scribd.com/doc/79879791/Garda-Bicycle-Registration-Form

    Sorry to hear you've had so many stolen, I hope it hasn't put you off cycling altogether, we're due some good weather at some point this year surely...


  • #494
    seeing_ie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 382 ✭✭seeing_ie


    http://www.bikeshd.co.uk/ scrapes the pictures of bikes from ebay and gumtree.
    Handy way to quickly look for a missing bike if you're in the UK.


  • #495
    FatSh!te
    Registered Users Posts: 106 ✭✭FatSh!te


    Girlfriends nice steel trekker/commuter stolen the other day. Gutted as it has been brought up to good working order over the past year. Very similar to attached photo, but with new silver mud guards.

    Stolen from underground car park of our apartment complex in Dundrum (would be interested if any others stolen in similar manner from the area - let me know by PM). Please keep an eye out.

    Stolen between evening of Wednesday 2nd May and Tuesday 8th May.

    Supect it could possibly have been stolen to covert into a fixie, so worth looking out for the frame too.



    Model:
    • Holdsworth Trekker 21 speed
    Description:
    • White steel frame with red text decals
    • Reynolds 500 tubing in good condition.
    • Black front fork
    • Black flat handle bars
    • Black SRAM friction shifters on handlebars
    • Sliver rack and mudguards
    • Recently replaced wheels, rear cassette, and front chain set
    • Used daily & locked every evening in underground car park bike rack
    Thanks for your time.


  • #496
    SleepDoc
    Registered Users Posts: 303 ✭✭SleepDoc


    LugsB wrote: »
    I had a Trek 6000 MTB hard tail stolen from "the secure bicycle lockup" in the basement of my apartment block, Shelbourne Park Apartments. There is no cover by the management company, they didn't want to know and were not interested.

    Nearly every single person I know that purchased a bike on the cycle to work scheme has had it stolen.

    Sorry to hear that. I know this is after the fact, but after one of my bikes was stolen from the underground car park of our apt complex, I just started keeping my bikes in the apartment - against "rules" of course.

    Management company can go swing.


  • #497
    spikeprint
    Closed Accounts Posts: 114 ✭✭spikeprint


    Tayto2000 wrote: »
    If you didn't supply the serial number it's unlikely to have made it onto the pulse system. Gardai aren't going to chase you for missing information, you need to supply it, any other Garda looking at the report is just going to assume that you're one of the hundreds who didn't have it recorded

    I was told I would get a follow up call, hence I didn't supply the number. Its a small thing to ask for a phone call when your property worth over €500 is stolen. At the risk of sounding repetitive, nothing is being done. I don't buy that the gardai are doing enough. Its a serious crime that is being committed daily. The garda told me 5 bikes going missing everyday in Rathmines, yet it is rare to see a beat cop. There is no registration system there, surely if that works it would be rolled out in all stations?

    Number one on the list of crimes for the gardai is burglary, bike crime is way down the list. I, and I am sure many others, are not happy with the reaction from the gardai to this growing crime. It is being ignored because the device of serial numbers is a handy way to excuse themselves from sorting out the crime.


  • #498
    ednwireland
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭ednwireland


    just a mod note this is a stolen bikes thread not a garda discussion thread

    My weather

    https://www.ecowitt.net/home/share?authorize=96CT1F



  • #499
    dub_25
    Registered Users Posts: 5 ✭dub_25


    my bike was stolen from trinity campus today (have reported to to security and gardai)

    it's a small 44cm compact giant ocr in yellow and black with a flat/blade carbon seat post that might distinguish it (see pic). It was second hand, pretty old. If anyone spots it I would appreciate if you could contact myself or gardai.
    cheers


  • #500
    Peace
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,758 ✭✭✭Peace


    dub_25 wrote: »
    my bike was stolen from trinity campus today (have reported to to security and gardai)

    it's a small 44cm compact giant ocr in yellow and black with a flat/blade carbon seat post that might distinguish it (see pic). It was second hand, pretty old. If anyone spots it I would appreciate if you could contact myself or gardai.
    cheers

    Were you using the lock displayed in the pitcure to secure it?


  • #501
    Mycroft H
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,313 ✭✭✭Mycroft H


    Peace wrote: »
    Were you using the lock displayed in the pitcure to secure it?

    I would hope not. I could get through that with a hammer and a snips in seconds.


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