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*Everything HPAT and Medicine 2012*

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    #872
    NoHarm1994
    Registered Users Posts: 228 ✭✭NoHarm1994


    What does everyone think the best back up course for Medicine is? Optimistic I know, but I don't know what to throw down on the CAO?? At the moment I'm thinking Science in Trinity but I have heard Physiotherapy is a better option. Any thoughts? :)


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    #873
    partyatmygaff
    Registered Users Posts: 10,992 ✭✭✭✭partyatmygaff


    It depends on your own preferences.

    What do you mean by "backup course"? Is it an alternative course that you'll stick with or a course to use to try and get in to graduate entry medicine?


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    #874
    NoHarm1994
    Registered Users Posts: 228 ✭✭NoHarm1994


    partyatmygaff wrote: »
    It depends on your own preferences.

    What do you mean by "backup course"? Is it an alternative course that you'll stick with or a course to use to try and get in to graduate entry medicine?

    Well of course, I was more looking down the lines of which course would look the best if you aimed to do Graduate entry further down the line?(Again presuming the HPAT doesn't go to plan) I have heard that Law is a good option as well?


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    #875
    Patri
    Closed Accounts Posts: 330 ✭✭Patri


    NoHarm1994 wrote: »
    Well of course, I was more looking down the lines of which course would look the best if you aimed to do Graduate entry further down the line?(Again presuming the HPAT doesn't go to plan) I have heard that Law is a good option as well?

    Why would law be a good option for graduate entry medicine!?! Any 2:1/1:1 degree will let you sit the gamsat. If you're going to go to college pick a course you would enjoy studying, because as I said you'll need a 2:1 or 1:1 in your degree to sit the gamsat and even be looked at for medicine in colleges in Britain! A science based course would be the most obvious option especially if you haven't done chemistry/physics/biology before it's fundamental.

    Don't jump into a course for the sake of it, that's where wasted money and drop-outs come into play! And in 3/4 years time you might not even want to study medicine. Pick a course you think you'll enjoy, contrary to school beliefs, you will have to work hard in your course at some stage. :P


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    #876
    partyatmygaff
    Registered Users Posts: 10,992 ✭✭✭✭partyatmygaff


    IMO, the most useful would be Pharmacy. For one, some of the material is common across the two courses and most importantly the expert knowledge of pharmacotherapy you'll have will be of great benefit to your career.


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    #877
    NoHarm1994
    Registered Users Posts: 228 ✭✭NoHarm1994


    partyatmygaff wrote: »
    IMO, the most useful would be Pharmacy. For one, some of the material is common across the two courses and most importantly the expert knowledge of pharmacotherapy you'll have will be of great benefit to your career.

    Don't do Chemistry..:pac:


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    #878
    finality
    Registered Users Posts: 1,763 ✭✭✭finality


    What about human health and disease in Trinity? I think you can be exempt from some modules of graduate medicine if you've done it, as they're covered in both courses.


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    #879
    NoHarm1994
    Registered Users Posts: 228 ✭✭NoHarm1994


    finality wrote: »
    What about human health and disease in Trinity? I think you can be exempt from some modules of graduate medicine if you've done it, as they're covered in both courses.

    I was thinking about it, but my Career Guidance Councillor said it is too specific for a back up? Now they are her words not mine so I don't know like. I have been to two lectures on that course and Iv read the perspectus, yet I still dont know what it is about :P


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    #880
    jumpguy
    Registered Users Posts: 7,962 ✭✭✭jumpguy


    NoHarm1994 wrote: »
    I was thinking about it, but my Career Guidance Councillor said it is too specific for a back up?
    That's nonsense, the course was pretty much created by the demand of people who missed out on medicine afaik.


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    #881
    Anita Blow
    Registered Users Posts: 1,933 ✭✭✭Anita Blow


    Physiotherapy is a great option.
    1st Year Physio shares Anatomy and Physiology with medicine which are the 2 core modules for both courses


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    #882
    finality
    Registered Users Posts: 1,763 ✭✭✭finality


    jumpguy wrote: »
    That's nonsense, the course was pretty much created by the demand of people who missed out on medicine afaik.

    Yeah I was considering doing it until I found out that most of the people on the course would be going for graduate medicine after it. I think science would be a more valuable option as a degree to actually progress with, if I decide against medicine.


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    #883
    eyescreamcone
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,562 ✭✭✭eyescreamcone


    An advantage in doing a Law degree is it is only 3 years.
    So you can get started on your Grad Med course a year earlier.

    But, a law degree would be of little help for your medical career outside of this point.

    Do people regard courses such as
    Optometry
    Audiology
    Physiotherapy
    Radiology
    Speech and Language Therapy, as suitable back up courses???

    One can always pursue a career in these areas if one decided that they didn't want to do/can't afford GradMed afterwards.


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    #884
    hollingr
    Registered Users Posts: 486 ✭✭hollingr


    Anita Blow wrote: »
    Physiotherapy is a great option.
    1st Year Physio shares Anatomy and Physiology with medicine which are the 2 core modules for both courses


    Exactly what i was going to say. The most cross over is between these two, so if you were thinking of repeating the hpat but got a good enough l.c it would be the best option for you if medicine is the only thing you really want to do.


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    #885
    eyescreamcone
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,562 ✭✭✭eyescreamcone


    I think it's possible to do an accelerated (extra summer terms) 2year law degree in the University of Buckingham.
    I think that it is possible to do 2 year science degrees also at this UK University


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    #886
    Oween
    Registered Users Posts: 16 ✭Oween


    hollingr wrote: »
    Exactly what i was going to say. The most cross over is between these two, so if you were thinking of repeating the hpat but got a good enough l.c it would be the best option for you if medicine is the only thing you really want to do.

    No, the best option in this case would be Biomedical Health & Life Science in UCD or Biomedical Science in NUIG or UCC, depending on your preference. It's pretty much the Medicine Course except more based on research rather than on becoming a Doctor...


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    #887
    hollingr
    Registered Users Posts: 486 ✭✭hollingr


    yeah that's right, there is a thread about what it is like in TCD. Seems it is mostly aspiring med students who end up dropping out:

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055841593


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    #888
    Anita Blow
    Registered Users Posts: 1,933 ✭✭✭Anita Blow


    But for those looking for a clinical aspect aswell who aren't looking to go into research, physiotherapy is the only real one which can compare. Placement runs basically in the same manner as Med- 6 week placements during the summer and then rotations through each of the specialities during 3rd and 4th year


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    #889
    hollingr
    Registered Users Posts: 486 ✭✭hollingr


    there is accelerated medicine for physios in some countries, they do a lot of anatomy stuff.

    not sure how it works in ireland though or if they do that here..


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    #890
    Anita Blow
    Registered Users Posts: 1,933 ✭✭✭Anita Blow


    I'm in it at the moment. Can't see it happening here though because we do a different chemistry course instead of biochem


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    #891
    partyatmygaff
    Registered Users Posts: 10,992 ✭✭✭✭partyatmygaff


    There are rumours of the HPAT results being leaked again today (Just like last year). Anyone noticed anything new on their CAO today?


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    #892
    hollingr
    Registered Users Posts: 486 ✭✭hollingr


    not me.. just last years results up on my cao. where did you hear that? wouldn't mind gettin the results 2 weeks early!


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    #893
    finality
    Registered Users Posts: 1,763 ✭✭✭finality


    Nothing on my cao anyway.


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    #894
    Medicine333
    Closed Accounts Posts: 387 ✭✭Medicine333


    Where did you hear that, Partyatmygaff?


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    #895
    eyescreamcone
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,562 ✭✭✭eyescreamcone


    Is it possible to do the HPAT exam during 5th year???


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    #896
    QueenOfLeon
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,109 ✭✭✭QueenOfLeon


    eyescreamcone wrote: »
    Is it possible to do the HPAT exam during 5th year???

    Nope, only 6th year. Read the HPAT site for all the info you need.


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    #897
    Medicine333
    Closed Accounts Posts: 387 ✭✭Medicine333


    eyescreamcone wrote: »
    Is it possible to do the HPAT exam during 5th year???

    No, and I would be slow to start buying HPAT booklets or paying for ******** this early as well. At least not until it is confirmed that the HPAT will be going ahead next year.


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    #898
    ivanh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 72 ✭✭ivanh


    When do we have those medical clearance things and what do they entail? :confused:


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    #899
    Anita Blow
    Registered Users Posts: 1,933 ✭✭✭Anita Blow


    If you get accepted into any Health Science course you're sent an orientation pack with forms to fill out proving your immunity to certain diseases. You might have to get some vaccinations if you aren't immune but that's done over the course of first year


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    #900
    QueenOfLeon
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,109 ✭✭✭QueenOfLeon


    Also if you're talking about Garda clearance, you just bring the forms that are sent out into your local Garda station to stamp to verify that you don't have a criminal record.


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    #901
    Shifty
    Registered Users Posts: 487 ✭✭Shifty


    What is the Garda Vetting Procedure for personnel who are subject to Garda Vetting?

    The procedure is as follows:-

    Personnel who are subject to Garda Vetting will receive a Garda Vetting Application Form from the registered organisation where they are seeking a position.

    The applicant completes the application form and returns it to the Organisation. He or she must sign the form, thereby providing authorisation for the Garda Vetting process.

    An authorised liaison person in the registered organisation sends the form on to the Garda Central Vetting Unit.

    Garda Vetting checks on the applicant are carried out following receipt of the application form at the Garda Central Vetting Unit.

    As a result of these checks a Garda Vetting disclosure is issued directly to the authorised liaison person in the registered organisation.

    An individual vetting subject may obtain a copy of their Garda vetting disclosure from the authorised liaison person in the registered organisation to whom it was issued.

    Garda Vetting will only be conducted, and relevant disclosure will only be issued to an authorised liaison person within a registered organisation for Garda Vetting, predicated on the written authorisation of an individual vetting subject to do so in a Garda Vetting application form.

    http://www.garda.ie/FAQ/Default.aspx?FAQCategory=36#FAQ2733


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