Farming Chit Chat

Muckit · 25-03-2012 08:06PM

redzerologhlen wrote: »

Just thinking about it now the first ten cows that have calved to our own bull have had ten heifers, strange, does the bull have anything to do in determining the sex of the calf because we had a lot more heifers than bulls last year aswell. Maybe its just chance....

He could have only one ball working

Finno59 · 25-03-2012 08:13PM

redzerologhlen wrote: »

Just thinking about it now the first ten cows that have calved to our own bull have had ten heifers, strange, does the bull have anything to do in determining the sex of the calf because we had a lot more heifers than bulls last year aswell. Maybe its just chance....

pakalasa wrote: »

You can look this up on www.icbf,com for the different AI bulls, under the Calving Traits tab. I was wondering the same before, as I seemed to be getting a lot of bulls from the same bull. Answer is about 51% male is the norm. For example some well known bulls as follows;
MBU - Total 13,487 births, 51% male
CF52 - Total 12,165 births, 52% male
HKG - Total 9,331 births, 50% male

Ya the bull decides sex of calf. Its either an X or Y chromosome that fertilizes the cow's egg which is X. Too x's makes a heifer and X and Y makes a bull.:cool: 10 heifers is a lot, he must have a higher ratio of Y cells to X cells unlike AI friesians :mad:

pakalasa · 25-03-2012 08:14PM

Talking to someone who said they saw silage being drawn on the road last week in Cork. :eek:

1chippy · 25-03-2012 08:14PM

150 round bales made on a wet farm in cavan yesterday. the man baling reckoned he only ever brought the baler out for repairs at this time of year.

redzerologhlen · 25-03-2012 08:17PM

Muckit wrote: »

He could have only one ball working

If it was that simple I would say there would be a lot of lads taking a ball of their friesans!!

whelan1 · 25-03-2012 08:19PM

it always evens out if you have a run of heifers this year you'll have bulls next year

Muckit · 25-03-2012 08:41PM

redzerologhlen wrote: »

If it was that simple I would say there would be a lot of lads taking a ball of their friesans!!

Ah..... but which one?

redzerologhlen · 25-03-2012 08:53PM

Muckit wrote: »

Ah..... but which one?

''Eanie, meanie, miney, moe'' I believe is the formula used to decide which one is to go

Kovu · 25-03-2012 09:12PM

5live wrote: »

Is that with heels as well Blue?:D

Karen 112 is allowed but im not so sure you are;)

I think my fathers eyes raised heaven the other morning when I arrived to dehorn the calves in a dress and tights. Not a scrap of muck on me. He, on the other hand got covered. It's all about the dodging!

EDIT- And a good meal bag behind that calf to stop them ripping tights with kicks!

Richk2012 · 25-03-2012 10:47PM

redzerologhlen wrote: »

Just thinking about it now the first ten cows that have calved to our own bull have had ten heifers, strange, does the bull have anything to do in determining the sex of the calf because we had a lot more heifers than bulls last year aswell. Maybe its just chance....

I dont know about the bull Redzer , but its said when thawing straws for A.I if you thaw around 35degrees your more likely to get a bull calf , and 37degrees a heifer .... Obviously not a certainty , but its ment to boost your chances......;)

Bizzum · 25-03-2012 11:28PM

Finno59 wrote: »

Ya the bull decides sex of calf. Its either an X or Y chromosome that fertilizes the cow's egg which is X. Too x's makes a heifer and X and Y makes a bull.:cool: 10 heifers is a lot, he must have a higher ratio of Y cells to X cells unlike AI friesians :mad:

My limited understanding of genetics is there are a finite number of pairs of chromosomes XY, 23 pairs in humans, which to reproduce split randomly.
This would suggest to me that having a run of ten heifers will over time average out.
I have heard all sort of theories about producing bull calves or heifer calves but I think the stats point to a rough 50/50 split.

Bleating Lamb · 26-03-2012 12:04AM

Just had one of those feel good moments.Lambing in full swing at mo,more mature ladies lambing outside ,hoggetts in shed.Noticed a ewe outside on last round around 7pm making her bed.Had a hunch tonight when checking shed around 11:30pm just to take quick spin out the field...came on same ewe with slime out...nothing happening,got her caught...first lamb coming backways,second one had head way down...both very far through but alive.Went back up for quad trailer,put them in shed and gave them colostrum....good when ya save an odd one.

whelan1 · 26-03-2012 05:16AM

a neighbour came over yesterday looking for a missing black bullock that he had let out on saturday evening.... got a call last night at 9pm that there was a black animal on the motorway:eek: now where the bullock was between saturday night and last night is a mystery... got my dad to go over to give a hand , the guards had the traffic stopped completely and they where trying to load him the last i heard at 10.20 pm

jerdee · 26-03-2012 09:03AM

came home last night from a day out in muckross park to find a new full bottle of trodax had burst ontop of fridge must be sunlight anyway lifted down bag paper and it spilled everywhere oh hasn't t spotted it yet and my hands are yellow like fake tan .............s..t Will hit the fan when I get home........next time I think I Will put it med press
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5live · 26-03-2012 09:07AM

Karen112 wrote: »

I think my fathers eyes raised heaven the other morning when I arrived to dehorn the calves in a dress and tights. Not a scrap of muck on me. He, on the other hand got covered. It's all about the dodging!

EDIT- And a good meal bag behind that calf to stop them ripping tights with kicks!

Oh no!!!! I just got a picture in my head of blue5000 in a dress and high heels dehorning calves and its lodged there. But he is using the plastic bag too so its ok:D

PatQfarmer · 26-03-2012 10:07AM

Finally got pic up. Silage cutting 25th March 2012 near Ardfinnan, Clonmel.
'Twould do your heart good!
http://yfrog.com/mma73qej

Tipp Man · 26-03-2012 10:19AM

PatQfarmer wrote: »

Finally got pic up. Silage cutting 25th March 2012 near Ardfinnan, Clonmel.
'Twould do your heart good!
http://yfrog.com/mma73qej

And he's not even a dairy farmer!!

He usually cuts the headlands of his silage fields early (not sure why) but never this early

PatQfarmer · 26-03-2012 10:23AM

Tipp Man wrote: »

And he's not even a dairy farmer!!

He usually cuts the headlands of his silage fields early (not sure why) but never this early

I usually cut headlands and wrap it in fields that I intend to cut hay off. It makes it easier to turn.
If that's what he's doing, he must not expect any re-growth before June/July:D
OH was driving, I made her stop so I could get pic.
You live out around there? I'm other side of Clonmel.

Kovu · 26-03-2012 10:30AM

5live wrote: »

Oh no!!!! I just got a picture in my head of blue5000 in a dress and high heels dehorning calves and its lodged there. But he is using the plastic bag too so its ok:D

AHAHAHAHAAHAHA. I just burst out laughing at work.

Tipp Man · 26-03-2012 10:39AM

PatQfarmer wrote: »

I usually cut headlands and wrap it in fields that I intend to cut hay off. It makes it easier to turn.
If that's what he's doing, he must not expect any re-growth before June/July:D
OH was driving, I made her stop so I could get pic.
You live out around there? I'm other side of Clonmel.

Yeah not too far at all from there.

You must surely be related to PF??

PatQfarmer · 26-03-2012 10:48AM

Tipp Man wrote: »

Yeah not too far at all from there.

You must surely be related to PF??

About as close as is genetically possible, he's my dad:)

Tipp Man · 26-03-2012 10:52AM

PatQfarmer wrote: »

About as close as is genetically possible, he's my dad:)

Was thinking so!! - but didn't realise ye had land

Some good land where you were driving yesterday

PatQfarmer · 26-03-2012 10:57AM

Tipp Man wrote: »

Was thinking so!! - but didn't realise ye had land

Some good land where you were driving yesterday

Excellent land. Plenty of it in tillage too!
South-facing, so sun always pushes growth:)
I'm part-time farming, but recession in property biz allows more time for farming...:rolleyes:

Tipp Man · 26-03-2012 11:03AM

PatQfarmer wrote: »

Excellent land. Plenty of it in tillage too!
South-facing, so sun always pushes growth:)
I'm part-time farming, but recession in property biz allows more time for farming...:rolleyes:

Ye the tillage fellas round us would be some of the best in the country, the ardfinnan area would be well known to have consistently the best yields- which is a pain as they are more than prepared to pay for rental land

Things bad in Clonmel alright - half the non-residential property in the town must be for sale or to rent - and no takers i can imagine

And very little to no land being sold from what i can see

wesleysniper38 · 26-03-2012 12:10PM

Hi all. I've 30 x 2.5 year old heifers. most of them are 2 months gone in calf. I vaccinated them all for BVD before they were bulled. a local expert maintained to me that it woluld have been better to waituntil now to do them . I argued with him that it is too late to vaccinate once they,d gone in calf but he reckoned you could vaccinate up to 3 months in calf.
Needless to say this debate took place over a gallon of portar

.
Clarification please?

5live · 26-03-2012 12:34PM

So i sold a few cattle and went to the bank this morning to lodge cheque and pay off the last of my milktank loan. And as i have a new manager i wanted to test the waters and see if she knew her stuff and what a bit of building i have in mind would cost in repayments. My 4th manager in 2 years so i am getting used to sounding them out:rolleyes:.

So i pay off the loan and enquire as to the repayments. Cant tell you, sez she, i am being transferred and you will have to speak to the new manager.

So 5 managers in 2 years:mad:. Is this a record or am i being very hard on bank managers:)

reilig · 26-03-2012 01:16PM

wesleysniper38 wrote: »

Hi all. I've 30 x 2.5 year old heifers. most of them are 2 months gone in calf. I vaccinated them all for BVD before they were bulled. a local expert maintained to me that it woluld have been better to waituntil now to do them . I argued with him that it is too late to vaccinate once they,d gone in calf but he reckoned you could vaccinate up to 3 months in calf.
Needless to say this debate took place over a gallon of portar .
Clarification please?

I don't know if its right or wrong, but i always vaccinate them before they run with the bull.

Bizzum · 26-03-2012 01:31PM

wesleysniper38 wrote: »

Hi all. I've 30 x 2.5 year old heifers. most of them are 2 months gone in calf. I vaccinated them all for BVD before they were bulled. a local expert maintained to me that it woluld have been better to waituntil now to do them . I argued with him that it is too late to vaccinate once they,d gone in calf but he reckoned you could vaccinate up to 3 months in calf.
Needless to say this debate took place over a gallon of portar .
Clarification please?

I think the local expert may have been basing his argument on the fact that you are advised not to vacc within a couple of weeks of breeding. I think it's more to do with the stress associated with handling as much as anything else that may effect conception rates.
We try and do them a month or 6 weeks before the bull.

pakalasa · 26-03-2012 01:42PM

My understanding - The danger period for BVD is the first 3 months of pregnancy. Ideally they should be done before the breeding season, but doing them in the first 3 months is better than, not doing them at all. If that makes sense.
I did mine last year, on the instructions of the VET, while some of them were in calf. This was because I left it too late , when I asked the VET initially, rather than he advising me to do them at that stage of pregnancy.

blue5000 · 26-03-2012 02:05PM

5live wrote: »

Oh no!!!! I just got a picture in my head of blue5000 in a dress and high heels dehorning calves and its lodged there. But he is using the plastic bag too so its ok:D

Sh1t my big secret is out now, hope you're seein me in a blue dress with a respectable knee length hemline:o:o:o:o:o

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