Are you going to pay the household charge? [Part 1]

alastair · 21-03-2012 10:28PM

Ghandee wrote: »

I did?

Where?

maybe you should go up and consult with the PSNI?

There?

Glad to provide you with the PNSI's infomed position on responsibility.
and while we're at it - the same chancers murdered Robert McCartney, and then closed ranks. Nice people.

Wild Bill · 21-03-2012 10:29PM

Nah!

Ghandee · 21-03-2012 10:31PM

donalg1 wrote: »

Go to bed now son, seriously:rolleyes:

You must be in bed if you are dreaming about trying to convince anyone bout that robbery[/QUOTE]

I'm not trying to convince anyone, about anything.

An allegation was made by Francie lad that 'Sinn Fein robbed the Northern Bank'

I tried to convince no one either way, I repeatedly asked for a link to where he got his information, (solid information, with a conviction somewhere at least?)

He, You, nor anyone else could give me one.

Case dismissed.

vicwatson · 21-03-2012 10:33PM

Is it my imagination or are RTE Television and Radio promoting the payment of this Tax by basically advertising the matter on every radio programme and news programme?

Is the Government leaning on them I wonder, taking into account the complaints to RTE of late regarding bias towards other parties other than Government parties?

It stinks - the whole lot of it.

steddyeddy · 21-03-2012 10:35PM

What about people who through no fault of their own cant pay it. Does a blanket 100 euro per household charge indicate that the government are in touch or aware of the growing number of people st.vincent de paul describe as being in poverty?

CajunOnTour · 21-03-2012 10:35PM

Wild Bill wrote: »

Nah!

Best post today - not as ironic as mine. When should I start to feel a little queasy?

alastair · 21-03-2012 10:35PM

Ghandee wrote: »

I tried to convince no one either way, I repeatedly asked for a link to where he got his information, (solid information, with a conviction somewhere at least?)

He, You, nor anyone else could give me one.

Case dismissed.

As previously mentioned - you must be disgusted at the claims levelled against Seanie et al, what with no conviction to point to? Terrible the rumours put about.

We all know the IRA stole that money - 'they haven't gone away you know'. Don't make yourself look a bigger idiot than necessary.

alastair · 21-03-2012 10:36PM

vicwatson wrote: »

Is it my imagination or are RTE Television and Radio promoting the payment of this Tax by basically advertising the matter on every radio programme and news programme?

Is ignorance of the subject the best strategy for the no camp then?

Bruthal · 21-03-2012 10:37PM

vicwatson wrote: »

Is it my imagination or are RTE Television and Radio promoting the payment of this Tax by basically advertising the matter on every radio programme and news programme?

Is the Government leaning on them I wonder, taking into account the complaints to RTE of late regarding bias towards other parties other than Government parties?

It stinks - the whole lot of it.

They dont have to lean on them, they are government supported, and do what they are told.

CajunOnTour · 21-03-2012 10:38PM

vicwatson wrote: »

Is the Government leaning on them I wonder

Nah! Of course not, this is a free country. Not like Russia, where the State media dances to the Kremlin's beat.

It just looks like that here :rolleyes:

donalg1 · 21-03-2012 10:38PM

Ghandee wrote: »

donalg1 wrote: »

Go to bed now son, seriously:rolleyes:

You must be in bed if you are dreaming about trying to convince anyone bout that robbery

I'm not trying to convince anyone, about anything.

An allegation was made by Francie lad that 'Sinn Fein robbed the Northern Bank'

I tried to convince no one either way, I repeatedly asked for a link to where he got his information, (solid information, with a conviction somewhere at least?)

He, You, nor anyone else could give me one.

Case dismissed.[/Quote]

He did provide you with the link you asked for though you just chose to ignore it

alastair · 21-03-2012 10:39PM

robbie7730 wrote: »

They dont have to lean on them, they are government supported, and do what they are told.

They're not government supported. They're state supported - different thing altogether.

Ghandee · 21-03-2012 10:39PM

alastair wrote: »

There?

Glad to provide you with the PNSI's infomed position on responsibility.
and while we're at it - the same chancers murdered Robert McCartney, and then closed ranks. Nice people.

So, me telling Francie lad to 'go consult' with the PSNI, in your head = me
wanting to ask the PSNI?

Did I not see you acting as the grammar nazi earlier?

I suppose I shouldnt be surprised really, reading what you want to read.

Epic failure on all the blueshirts here, constant demand from them to produce links, for the most part, they get produced by the no camp.

They on the other hand, either ignore your request, or side step the issue completely.

It reflects badly on the party, and on the yes campaign tbh.

Bruthal · 21-03-2012 10:41PM

alastair wrote: »

Is ignorance of the subject the best strategy for the no camp then?

How has someones view that rte are promoting this tax, have anything to do with peoples knowlege of the tax?

alastair · 21-03-2012 10:43PM

Ghandee wrote: »

So, me telling Francie lad to 'go consult' with the PSNI, in your head = me
wanting to ask the PSNI?

Did I not see you acting as the grammar nazi earlier?

I suppose I shouldnt be surprised really, reading what you want to read.

Sending someone to consult with a body, isn't suggesting they ask them the story? Don't know how you'd interpret that otherwise.

But then you're trying to deny the Ra are thieving, murdering scumbags. I can't say much of your line makes sense.

donalg1 · 21-03-2012 10:43PM

Ghandee wrote: »

alastair wrote: »

There?

Glad to provide you with the PNSI's infomed position on responsibility.
and while we're at it - the same chancers murdered Robert McCartney, and then closed ranks. Nice people.

So, me telling Francie lad to 'go consult' with the PSNI, in your head = me
wanting to ask the PSNI?

Did I not see you acting as the grammar nazi earlier?

I suppose I shouldnt be surprised really, reading what you want to read.

Epic failure on all the blueshirts here, constant demand from them to produce links, for the most part, they get produced by the no camp.

They on the other hand, either ignore your request, or side step the issue completely.

It reflects badly on the party, and on the yes campaign tbh.

I asked the no campaign to provide me with a link stating the household charge will be €500 plus next year as this is what they are telling everyone. Still waiting for this link too.

Ghandee · 21-03-2012 10:45PM

donalg1 wrote: »

He did provide you with the link you asked for though you just chose to ignore it

I didnt ask for a link from the BBC (impartial:rolleyes:) news site, that the PSNI (even more impartial in the 6 counties) 'think' they know who robbed it.

Where is this link that proved anyone (sinn Fein, the IRA, the golden girls for Christs sake) robbed the northern bank?

Thats all I'm asking for?

I'll be the first man here to say 'fair enough' when that evidence is produced.

Until then, I'll resign it to the BS bin.

alastair · 21-03-2012 10:45PM

robbie7730 wrote: »

How has someones view that rte are promoting this tax, have anything to do with peoples knowlege of the tax?

The proposition was they were 'advertising the matter'. The 'promotion of the tax' is the product of a warped perspective - which is why I ask about preferring ignorance. Do try to pay attention!

The_Thing · 21-03-2012 10:46PM

donalg1 wrote: »

I asked the no campaign to provide me with a link stating the household charge will be €500 plus next year as this is what they are telling everyone. Still waiting for this link too.

Have you proof that it won't be €500 next year?

alastair · 21-03-2012 10:47PM

Ghandee wrote: »

I didnt ask for a link from the BBC (impartial:rolleyes:) news site, that the PSNI (even more impartial in the 6 counties) 'think' they know who robbed it.

Where is this link that proved anyone (sinn Fein, the IRA, the golden girls for Christs sake) robbed the northern bank?

Thats all I'm asking for?

I'll be the first man here to say 'fair enough' when that evidence is produced.

Until then, I'll resign it to the BS bin.

So - you're agreed that Seanie is being terribly tarnished by all that nasty cheap gossip, right?

Wild Bill · 21-03-2012 10:48PM

alastair wrote: »

We all know the IRA stole that money - 'they haven't gone away you know'.

Who's "we"?

(I think is the second time today I've had to ask you that).

Any actual evidence (the RUCs politically motivated opinions are not evidence)

But I seriously hope they did do it 'cos it would demonstrate a distinctly morally superior attitude to the banks than the current illegitimate Regime's.

Don't make yourself look a bigger idiot than necessary.

Pot, kettle etcetera :cool:

donalg1 · 21-03-2012 10:49PM

Ghandee wrote: »

donalg1 wrote: »

He did provide you with the link you asked for though you just chose to ignore it

I didnt ask for a link from the BBC (impartial:rolleyes:) news site, that the PSNI (even more impartial in the 6 counties) 'think' they know who robbed it.

Where is this link that proved anyone (sinn Fein, the IRA, the golden girls for Christs sake) robbed the northern bank?

Thats all I'm asking for?

I'll be the first man here to say 'fair enough' when that evidence is produced.

Until then, I'll resign it to the BS bin.

You asked him to consult with the psni and he provided you with a link outlining their position. Nuff said really.

It's complete BS to deny SF or the IRA didn't have some involvement in it. Don't think even Gerry Adams would try deny that one

donalg1 · 21-03-2012 10:50PM

The_Thing wrote: »

donalg1 wrote: »

I asked the no campaign to provide me with a link stating the household charge will be €500 plus next year as this is what they are telling everyone. Still waiting for this link too.

Have you proof that it won't be €500 next year?

Stupid question

Ghandee · 21-03-2012 10:50PM

alastair wrote: »

Sending someone to consult with a body, isn't suggesting they ask them the story? .

No, Francie claimed to know who was guilty of a very serious robbery that happened in 2004 (I think)

I suggested he head up north and consult, ie, tell the psni what he knew.

Is that so hard for you to comprehend? Seriously?

Bruthal · 21-03-2012 10:51PM

alastair wrote: »

They're not government supported. They're state supported - different thing altogether.

Ok equity boy.

Wild Bill · 21-03-2012 10:51PM

alastair wrote: »

But then you're trying to deny the Ra are thieving, murdering scumbags.

Takes one to know one, eh?

Ghandee · 21-03-2012 10:52PM

alastair wrote: »

So - you're agreed that Seanie is being terribly tarnished by all that nasty cheap gossip, right?

Trawl through 6000 odd posts on this thread, and point out where I voiced an opinion on that man either way.

Either way.

alastair · 21-03-2012 10:53PM

Ghandee wrote: »

No, Francie claimed to know who was guilty of a very serious robbery that happened in 2004 (I think)

I suggested he head up north and consult, ie, tell the psni what he knew.

Is that so hard for you to comprehend? Seriously?

It is when you can't formulate your words - that would be 'consult for', not 'consult with'.

Bruthal · 21-03-2012 10:55PM

alastair wrote: »

It is when you can't formulate your words - that would be 'consult for', not 'consult with'.

Is that your final analysis?

alastair · 21-03-2012 10:55PM

Ghandee wrote: »

Trawl through 6000 odd posts on this thread, and point out where I voiced an opinion on that man either way.

Either way.

But your stance in relation to convictions as providing the only source of evidence in a question of responsibility would make very clear your position on Seanie. You don't need to say another word!

Are you going to pay the household charge? [Part 1]

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