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Leinster Schools Cups 2011-2012

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    #1232
    Hagz
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    Wonder what made Dardis change from Newbridge to Nure, did it have anything to do with rugby?


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    #1233
    Quint2010
    Registered Users Posts: 5,178 ✭✭✭Quint2010


    Inspector Coptoor wrote: »
    Eh, what game were you watching??

    A try in 1st 90 seconds, then one break away try when Zaga were in Nure 22 from an attacking line out & one charged down box kick.

    Zaga winger stopped 3 yards from line after great break.

    Zaga defense was immense.

    Terenure were rattled at half time with the score at 8-3 facing into a stiff breeze in 2nd half & they got the bounce of the ball a few times.

    That said, Terenure were the better team, they had a better bench and had more strength in depth.
    They were bigger physically in almost every single position and they were dominant at the breakdown and won lots of turnover ball

    They knew they were in a game today, and for you to say the winning margin should have been higher is absolute sh1t€ talk.

    If anything. It should have been & could have been a one score game such was the effort of the Gonzaga defence

    I was going on the fact that, besides the points you made about Terenure being the better team, they missed 3 kicks in the first half and Gonzaga scored their try a few minutes from the end when Terenure were down to 14. A 20 point differential would have been about right IMHO.


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    #1234
    Vanilla_Ice
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    Eh, what game were you watching??


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    #1235
    Vanilla_Ice
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    Eh, what game were you watching??
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    someones an angry g-zig fan? Nure were by far the better team though they did not play to their full potential could have been a lot worse for zaga


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    #1236
    Inspector Coptoor
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    Vanilla_Ice wrote: »

    someones an angry g-zig fan? Nure were by far the better team though they did not play to their full potential could have been a lot worse for zaga


    Do you think an "angry" fan would have said nure were the better team?

    Fan - yes

    Angry - No

    Terenure deserved to win.

    Very hard for a school with 550 who've never been to a SCT sem-finali to compete with a school with over 1000 & a history of Getting that far - and compete is exactly what Zaga did.
    That was my whole point.

    But as usual - keyboard warrior ninjas jump out to play


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    #1237
    Quint2010
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    Inspector Coptoor wrote: »
    Do you think an "angry" fan would have said nure were the better team?

    Fan - yes

    Angry - No

    Terenure deserved to win.

    Very hard for a school with 550 who've never been to a SCT sem-finali to compete with a school with over 1000 & a history of Getting that far - and compete is exactly what Zaga did.
    That was my whole point.

    But as usual - keyboard warrior ninjas jump out to play

    Yes they did. They if anything had the better line out, half backs and tactical kicking. But they were murdered at the breakdown and that is where games are so often won and lost these days.


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    #1238
    milosh
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    Is there any truth to the Dan Leavy cruciate injury rumour. He should be one of the star players in the Cup this year.


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    #1239
    Fight_Night
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    Hagz wrote: »
    Wonder what made Dardis change from Newbridge to Nure, did it have anything to do with rugby?

    Don't know any of the specific details but it had everything to do with rugby as far as I know! Can't be getting on a high horse though, all of the big 6 schools have been guilty of it at some stage, and it does give the player a better chance to win something.


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    #1240
    Hagz
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    Fight_Night wrote: »
    Don't know any of the specific details but it had everything to do with rugby as far as I know! Can't be getting on a high horse though, all of the big 6 schools have been guilty of it at some stage, and it does give the player a better chance to win something.

    If both parties are happy I don't really see the problem. He's pretty good from what I saw of him in that match. Do you know if 15 is his preferred position or does he usually play somewhere else?


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    #1241
    Podhod7
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    gfitz95 wrote: »
    Terenure are very average it must be said and in my opinion will struggle to get within 15 of Clongowes
    is that a joke??! Nure and CWC are the best teams in thi competition by a long show this your i reckon! i agree Nure were not at their bet today but their performance agaisnt Rock should make you embaressed of that comment! however i do believe Nure CWC will be a classic


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    #1242
    LFC5Times
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    Hagz wrote: »
    Wonder what made Dardis change from Newbridge to Nure, did it have anything to do with rugby?

    His Dad went to school in Terenure as far as I know, so that may of had some bearing on it.


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    #1243
    thebaz
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    Quint2010 wrote: »

    PS David Doyle was lucky not to be sent off

    What did he do ?

    saw bits of match, zaga's defense was excellent but lacked match winners out wide - nure's midfield was excellent - think they could even beat clongowes


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    #1244
    CIARAN_BOYLE
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    Quint2010 wrote: »
    Just back-good enough game but Terenure I felt were far more superior than the scoreline suggests. I thought their back row were excellent-the amount of turnovers they one was unbelievable. I thought Paddy Thornton Terenure's no 7 was their best player. Brewer was excellent-the guy is just huge for a 16 year old and put in some massive hits. Tim Schmidt looks a class act at SH and Terenure must be tempted to start him against Clongowes. McKeon and Fitzpatrick were Gonzaga's best players. Terenure Clongowes is going to be some match. I wonder when it will be re-arranged for?

    PS David Doyle was lucky not to be sent off
    Where was brewer playing today?


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    #1245
    Bearcat
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    thebaz wrote: »
    What did he do ?

    saw bits of match, zaga's defense was excellent but lacked match winners out wide - nure's midfield was excellent - think they could even beat clongowes
    As an oc I'm petrified that they think they'll cruise this. I think nure are a top outfit and for me it's neck and neck.......theres nothing in it says me......a classic ahead.


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    #1246
    Hagz
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    CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »
    Where was brewer playing today?

    13 and he was quite impressive. Physical hits and a few breaks.


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    #1247
    Hagz
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    thebaz wrote: »
    What did he do ?


    Zaga were awarded a penalty and the scrumhalf have was tussling with a Nure player trying to get the ball for a quick tap. Doyle came in from a distance and smashed him.


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    #1248
    profitius
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    I saw the second half. There wasn't much between the teams. Terenure had the bigger team and used their size to win the game. Gonzaga were unlucky to lose by so much.

    One player stood out for me. Gonzaga no. 10 Conor McKeon. His kicking from hand and passing were surprisingly good!


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    #1249
    thebaz
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    Hagz wrote: »
    Zaga were awarded a penalty and the scrumhalf have was tussling with a Nure player trying to get the ball for a quick tap. Doyle came in from a distance and smashed him.

    wouldn't say he would have smashed into the zaga second row , from what i saw he was there best player, along with there 10 - nures centres will give serious trouble to clongowes


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    #1250
    Hagz
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    thebaz wrote: »
    wouldn't say he would have smashed into the zaga second row , from what i saw he was there best player, along with there 10 - nures centres will give serious trouble to clongowes

    Who? Doyle or McKeon. Doyle was only on the pitch for a little bit so I'm assuming you're talking about McKeon. I thought the best player on the pitch was Billy Dardis.


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    #1251
    thebaz
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    Hagz wrote: »
    Who? Doyle or McKeon. Doyle was only on the pitch for a little bit so I'm assuming you're talking about McKeon. I thought the best player on the pitch was Billy Dardis.

    the zaga 10 - mckeon

    to me it was out wide where they destroyed gonzaga - but again didn't see all the match


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    #1252
    Quint2010
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    CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »
    Where was brewer playing today?

    Outside centre


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    #1253
    gfitz95
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    Podhod7 wrote: »
    is that a joke??! Nure and CWC are the best teams in thi competition by a long show this your i reckon! i agree Nure were not at their bet today but their performance agaisnt Rock should make you embaressed of that comment! however i do believe Nure CWC will be a classic

    I dont see how you think they were good against rock?That was the worst rock team in years and terenure could only beat them by 2?Doesnt say to much about them in my opinion.


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    #1254
    ormond lad
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    gfitz95 wrote: »
    I dont see how you think they were good against rock?That was the worst rock team in years and terenure could only beat them by 2?Doesnt say to much about them in my opinion.
    You cant say that. A rock team that were underdogs going into the game and had everything to gain against a team hotly tipped to beat them.
    Terenure would be expected to win well and would be criticised if they lost or didnt perform while rock if they won or performed very well in losing would have exceeded the expectations of most people

    Terenure did well to avoid a potential banana skin


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    #1255
    LFC5Times
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    gfitz95 wrote: »
    I dont see how you think they were good against rock?That was the worst rock team in years and terenure could only beat them by 2?Doesnt say to much about them in my opinion.

    You said Terenure are very average and will struggle to get within 15 of Clongowes. While I think Clongowes will win against Terenure I fancy Terenure to get within 15 or so of Clongowes.

    So how about you offer me Terenure +15 at 5/6 ??


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    #1256
    Wattle
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    Billy Dardis was superb for Terenure. Does anybody know if he has another year or is he in sixth year now?


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    #1257
    Dev5976
    Registered Users Posts: 58 ✭✭Dev5976


    Wattle wrote: »
    Billy Dardis was superb for Terenure. Does anybody know if he has another year or is he in sixth year now?

    He has another year


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    #1258
    fox_1973
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    Quint2010 wrote: »
    Just back-good enough game but Terenure I felt were far more superior than the scoreline suggests. I thought their back row were excellent-the amount of turnovers they one was unbelievable. I thought Paddy Thornton Terenure's no 7 was their best player. Brewer was excellent-the guy is just huge for a 16 year old and put in some massive hits. Tim Schmidt looks a class act at SH and Terenure must be tempted to start him against Clongowes. McKeon and Fitzpatrick were Gonzaga's best players. Terenure Clongowes is going to be some match. I wonder when it will be re-arranged for?

    PS David Doyle was lucky not to be sent off

    its still going ahead on the 4th but the time has been brought froward to 12.30


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    #1259
    Imhof Tank
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    LFC5Times wrote: »
    You said Terenure are very average and will struggle to get within 15 of Clongowes. While I think Clongowes will win against Terenure I fancy Terenure to get within 15 or so of Clongowes.

    So how about you offer me Terenure +15 at 5/6 ??

    Why would he lay you at +15 when he can go to the bookies on the day and back CWC at 5/6 giving up less than 15?

    Id say the handicap for the semi may open up at around 7. I myself would be very much with Terenure with that start.


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    #1260
    gfitz95
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    LFC5Times wrote: »
    You said Terenure are very average and will struggle to get within 15 of Clongowes. While I think Clongowes will win against Terenure I fancy Terenure to get within 15 or so of Clongowes.

    So how about you offer me Terenure +15 at 5/6 ??

    Terenure have showed nothing to say that they are a good team so far in this cup.They beat a dreadful rock team by 2,a team that i feel wouldnt have come within 20 of Clongowes.They followed that up with another average performance against Gonzaga and were arguably flattered by the score line.It is my opinion that Ternure will get beaten well by Clongowes, probably by about 10 to 15,AKA a struggle to get within 15!I just dont see where people are getting their ideas from saying itl be a classic?Theres just no evidence to back that up.


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    #1261
    LFC5Times
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    Imhof Tank wrote: »
    Why would he lay you at +15 when he can go to the bookies on the day and back CWC at 5/6 giving up less than 15?

    Id say the handicap for the semi may open up at around 7. I myself would be very much with Terenure with that start.

    Because I want to see can he back up his comment on this forum that Terenure are average and will struggle to get within 15 of Clongowes. If he is confident of his comment he would do the bet with a fellow forumite.


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