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Pretty Little Liars - ABC Family [** Spoilers **]

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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 21,634 ✭✭✭✭Richard Dower




  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 21,634 ✭✭✭✭Richard Dower


    Byron's face!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D

    ps. - we broke 23,000! .......!!



  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 21,634 ✭✭✭✭Richard Dower




  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 21,634 ✭✭✭✭Richard Dower


    heads up....fresh episode tonight!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,178 ✭✭✭_Bella_


    It's been a pretty eventful two episodes! Finally Aria and Ezra are out in the open, hopefully this is them over forever!

    So Lucas apparently was helping A. It was quite a scary scene when it was just Spencer and him alone in the attic. The boat scene was great, and we're left with the question whether Lucas survived. They are obviously trying to make it seem as if Jenna and her boyfriend are the co-conspirators but they also showed Noel and Mona as other possibilities.

    It will be really interesting to see if Jenna gets her sight back and how it will play out. Also on a side note, you have to feel sorry for Spencer always being left in that house on her own!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 21,634 ✭✭✭✭Richard Dower


    ^ yep...two cracking opening episodes, but...it was very obvious that lucas was gonna tell Hammah he loved her + couldn
    t be friends with her anymore cause it was too painful, but Hannah thought he was gonna kill her and whapped him on the head!...lol.

    They are deffo tryna put the suspicion on Noel and Mona for sure....we were just taking a dip eh?

    Two very strong opening eps. ratings are ace, good stuff.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 21,634 ✭✭✭✭Richard Dower


    Pretty good ep. this week with the truth about Lucas, i think alot of people called it....they telegraphed it two weeks back when they showed Lucas on his laptop and the gambling website.

    Still though...Hannah could have killed him!, jesus....whapped him on the head, he could have drowned you silly moo!....yet, she says HE'S changed???????
    The Aria/Ezra stuff is still annoying....jaysus, slow mo walking toward each other with love type music, it was all so....Notebook.

    Listen, i ship a good love story as much as anyone but i still can't get past he's a creepy perv dating a teen girl, Spencer has turned into Sherlock Holmes....she's hunting clues y'all.

    Emily and Maya....lol!, he won't leave me alone....wait?, WHAT??????.......LOL!
    Emily's face!!!!!!!!!!....haha!, so Maya plays for boths teams. The live bait stuff was puke material.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,178 ✭✭✭_Bella_


    This thread is dead compared to the start of the season! Anyway a few big reveals, did not see Jason being Spencer's half sister. It will be interesting to see how it plays out.

    The Holden storyline is pretty boring. I liked the Kate storyline though, it was well done and it was nice to see Hannah's mum believe her. Looking forward to next week and seeing what this person has to say.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 21,634 ✭✭✭✭Richard Dower


    Edging closer and closer to finding out who -A is!!!!!!!!


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 21,634 ✭✭✭✭Richard Dower




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,178 ✭✭✭_Bella_


    Jam packed episode. I didn't see the Melissa twist coming at all. So it seems Jenna, Garrett and her were all working together as A. I wonder if she's actually going to tell Spencer anything or was it just a ploy to get to the computer.

    Wren and Spencer were pretty funny together, I'd really like to see them together. They have good chemistry and are enjoyable to watch.

    A going after everyone was really well done. It will be interesting to see what Hanna's mum finds out.

    I was so close to jumping up and down when Aria and Ezra broke up, but of course there had to be another twist. When will the writers just break them up?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,084 ✭✭✭✭Kirby


    I've got to say, the writing on the show doesn't feel as tight as it once did. The recent episode just drove the point home. It just feels like they are making stuff up as the go along now. Where is the planning???

    Melissa is now in with Garrett and the evil blind one and was all along. Really?? There hasn't been even an inkling of that so far. If they can just retcon whatever they like whenever they like....there is less payoff.

    Bah. Not impressed.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 21,634 ✭✭✭✭Richard Dower




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,850 ✭✭✭FouxDaFaFa


    Haven't forsaken the thread, Richard. But like Kirby said, the writers seem to be pulling stuff out of the air at the moment so it's hard to know what to say. I like Spencer and Wren, he's a bit more fun than uber-dreary Toby.

    I don't know about Melissa. I did laugh to myself at the start of the episode that maybe she was the bad guy because she's playing a villain in another show (
    Vampire Diaries
    ) at the moment so I was thinking of her in that way anyway. Not sure if it's a red herring or of she could be part of the A group.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,297 ✭✭✭Jaxxy


    Melissa on the A-team? Don't buy it. I always believed she knew more than she did and of course she'd been involved with Ian (and in some ways her HALF BROTHER next door! :eek:) before and that relationship had always seemed a little creepy and somewhat forced to me, but she had to have some insight into their little club.

    I think maybe Melissa was the one Ally might have been blackmailing. She's always so concerned with how the family looks, and I don't think she looked all that shocked when Spencer told her about Jason, more pissed off at their mother, who didn't tell them. That's a bit messed up.

    I held no hope at all that Aria and Ezra were finally finished. They'd keep him in the game through some plot intervention. I was expecting A to step in to do it, but not Aria's mother. I knew she'd have to realise at some point that they'd end up losing Aria if they didn't show some element of understanding but I still think it's weird.

    What I also think is weird is the (seemingly) wide acceptance of Spencer being with English doctor. He's of similar age to Ezra, no? Just because he's not her teacher doesn't make it any less icky. Should rename the show to Pretty Little Lolitas.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,084 ✭✭✭✭Kirby


    Jaxxy wrote: »

    What I also think is weird is the (seemingly) wide acceptance of Spencer being with English doctor. He's of similar age to Ezra, no? Just because he's not her teacher doesn't make it any less icky. Should rename the show to Pretty Little Lolitas.

    Actor who plays the doctor looks young. Actress who plays Spencer looks old for her supposed age. It's why it seems fine to alot of people. To be honest, it didn't even register for me. Never occured to me.

    The simple fact is Aria looks so young and is so tiny physically that it just seemed creepy to me. Plus, the whole student/teacher thing is always a big no-no.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,297 ✭✭✭Jaxxy


    Kirby wrote: »
    Actor who plays the doctor looks young. Actress who plays Spencer looks old for her supposed age. It's why it seems fine to alot of people. To be honest, it didn't even register for me. Never occured to me.

    The simple fact is Aria looks so young and is so tiny physically that it just seemed creepy to me. Plus, the whole student/teacher thing is always a big no-no.

    Yeah I can see why Aria and Ezra would freak people out more than Spencer and Wren would, with Ezria the obvious wrongness is a slap in the face with a limp mackerel.

    I think it registered with me because of how taboo it would have been say, if I were 16/17 and doing the naughty business with a fully qualified doctor. Whatever about a medical student, still in college, that mightn't have been as bad, but he's just so much older than her, and while he doesn't look it (I think he actually looks younger than Ezra) the intent is still there for me. Maybe it's because I'm a chick that this bothers me, who knows. It's more of a subtle pairing though, that's fo sho.

    EDIT: As an aside, just to add, I actually prefer Wren over Toby. He's more interesting and there is certainly more to him than meets the eye.


  • Registered Users Posts: 211 ✭✭_LilyRose_


    I only recently started watching it from the start on the internet..now I'm hooked lol..
    Anyone seen the latest episode (S02E22) ? It was only aired in America last night..I just watched it there a few minutes ago :)


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 21,634 ✭✭✭✭Richard Dower


    _LilyRose_ wrote: »
    I only recently started watching it from the start on the internet..now I'm hooked lol..
    Anyone seen the latest episode (S02E22) ? It was only aired in America last night..I just watched it there a few minutes ago :)

    I ahevn't properly commented on PLL as i'm in catchup mode....have six episodes to watch :eek:

    Welcome to the thread and PLL addiction ;) ...can't wait for the finale!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 21,634 ✭✭✭✭Richard Dower


    As 'A' day approaches....tomorrow week, who do you think -A is?
    My money is on Mona, but....i think there is more then one -A.

    Btw...i think Melissa killed Alison over Ian, but she's not -A


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  • Registered Users Posts: 205 ✭✭trendy88


    I agree with you about A and the murderer being two separate people. With the A puzzle solved they will need something to carry our attention over to season 3.

    Dont think it will be Mona though as I think they will go in a different direction than the books. Melissa seems too obvious. Lucas Perhaps?!

    Who do people think will die on the finale? Caleb or Toby?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 21,634 ✭✭✭✭Richard Dower


    So i have a MONSTER catchup to do....8 episodes!, just finally getting round to watching them. Tonight i watch 2x17 and 2x18....i wanna get everything done for the big -A finale next Monday.

    I must say 2x17 was brilliant, the reveals and shockers regarding the N.A.T. club, the video of them in Alisons bedroom, -A stepping up harrasing the girls....poor Toby!, almost killed and then Spencer stuck the knife in to protect him.

    Then the lovey dovey Ezria stuff.....LOL!, they love shooting these two in the rain don't they?, does look good on camera i guess, really pushing this forbidden love and them being "destined" to be together, course skirting over the fact it's wrong and illegal.

    Noel seems to be making lots of new friends, Jenna and Maya....hmmm, he's dodgy that guy, I see Aria's dad is tryna ship Ezra off to another state, that'll create some friction, Holden with the bruise.....hmmm, abusive father perhaps?

    Loved the shocker/reveal of the pumpkin note and how it was folded over, only to reveal -A!!!, big shocker....course we knew from the Halloween episode -A had started to target Alison, but the four Liars didn't know that.

    2x18 ended with -A getting Aria's dads gun!....wtf?, who's gonna get pinned for that?
    ^ please don't spoil as i need to watch 2x19 - 2x23 :-)

    Overall those were very solid eps. and i'll watch another two tomorrow and be all caught up for next Mondays Afest :-)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,178 ✭✭✭_Bella_


    That scene in the doll shop was so creepy! Interestingly Jenna can see now but is pretending she can't. She also seems to have turned against Garrett though I still don't think she's A.

    I'm not really sure what direction they are trying to go with, with the dream sequence with Ali. Looks like Aria and Ezra are done but I won't hold my breath.

    All in all a good episode. is next week the season finale?


  • Registered Users Posts: 205 ✭✭trendy88


    They really upped the ante in this weeks episode. How spooky was that doll hospital? Cant wait for next weeks finale. Hopefully it lives up to expectations. Im gonna say Alison has a twin and it was her that was murdered-if only because that would be a major twist which I'd love to see.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 21,634 ✭✭✭✭Richard Dower


    tomorrow is ........... -A Day


    OMG!


  • Registered Users Posts: 158 ✭✭Noelly


    Omg :eek:

    MINDFÚCK


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 21,634 ✭✭✭✭Richard Dower


    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    PLEASE SPOILER TAG!!!!!!!!!!!....I AM NOT NOT READING ANYTHINg,.RE; who -A is!!!!!!

    Please give time for others to see the episode before revealing who -A is


    I am also avoiding Twitter and all websites!!!!!!!!


  • Registered Users Posts: 158 ✭✭Noelly


    Spoiler tag what? :P All I said was Mindfúck


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 21,634 ✭✭✭✭Richard Dower


    Noelly wrote: »
    Spoiler tag what? :P All I said was Mindfúck

    OK....but to anyone posting, give us all like 24 hours to catchup and see it etc. i heard Twitter imploded after the episode...... :eek:

    :D


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  • Registered Users Posts: 158 ✭✭Noelly


    OK....but to anyone posting, give us all like 24 hours to catchup and see it etc. i heard Twitter imploded after the episode...... :eek:

    :D

    Yeah Twitter had basically the whole TTs worldwide taken over! Had to avoid it 'til I found a link to the episode. :o


  • Registered Users Posts: 289 ✭✭ChloeElla


    So, so, so disappointed with that episode.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,766 ✭✭✭squeakyduck


    Catching up on some episodes as I thought the series was finished for some reason?! :confused:

    Watched ep 23 just there and I got a bit of a suprise. It seems that Rosewood is based on a little town called Conshohocken in PA which is a town that my brother used to live in and I've visited a few times.

    When the girls are looking through the papers they found celebration details on a paper....they flip it over and say Rose wood but if you look closely its Conshohocken!

    So cool!!! :cool:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,850 ✭✭✭FouxDaFaFa


    Jesus Christ. That was intense. And confusing.

    I'm going to give people a grace period to see it and then we can discuss it properly. All I can say is, there was a "jump" moment which made me drop a sandwich. God damn you, A! :pac:


  • Registered Users Posts: 158 ✭✭Noelly


    FouxDaFaFa wrote: »
    Jesus Christ. That was intense. And confusing.

    I'm going to give people a grace period to see it and then we can discuss it properly. All I can say is, there was a "jump" moment which made me drop a sandwich. God damn you, A! :pac:

    Which bit was that? :P Just spoiler it! :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,850 ✭✭✭FouxDaFaFa


    Noelly wrote: »
    Which bit was that? :P Just spoiler it! :D
    It didn't even have anything to do with the plot.
    The fecking deer leaping in front of the car.


  • Registered Users Posts: 158 ✭✭Noelly


    FouxDaFaFa wrote: »
    It didn't even have anything to do with the plot.
    The fecking deer leaping in front of the car.

    Ooh yeah! That bit was very weird alright! :D I'm just so curious about
    the girl as the black swan, and who Jenna met and gave the hoodie thing too. Wasn't Mona because the hoodie was grey with blotches of colour in it, I was looking out for it all the episode but didn't spot it anywhere. :eek:


  • Registered Users Posts: 205 ✭✭trendy88


    I wont say much because I know people still have to catch up but I am seriously disappointed-More questions than answers. Would have been a great ep if we hadnt been promised the A Reveal-Let down big time. Reminded me of Red John Reveal at the end of last seasons the mentalist-completely great ep if we hadnt been promised we would see who RJ was.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,850 ✭✭✭FouxDaFaFa


    trendy88 wrote: »
    I wont say much because I know people still have to catch up but I am seriously disappointed-More questions than answers. Would have been a great ep if we hadnt been promised the A Reveal-Let down big time. Reminded me of Red John Reveal at the end of last seasons the mentalist-completely great ep if we hadnt been promised we would see who RJ was.
    I get where you're coming from. I purposely try to avoid reading any publicity for shows because this is always happening. You'll see fans of The Killing frothing at the mouth on this forum about a similar thing, promised something and not given it.

    Because I didn't have the expectation that all would be revealed, I quite enjoyed it. It felt like the show had come back to life a bit, it's been so listless the last while. It was like they'd been saving up all this action for this particular episode.

    It raised a lot of questions. The following is speculation, don't read unless you've seen the episode.
    Was Alison actually the beginning of this or was she just one of the few people who said no to A? How could a group like this operate in a town as small as Rosewood? What are their aims: are they criminals, blackmailers, some kind of sect? They were obviously working for a while before Alison copped it. What's the motivation for being in the A-team, what rewards does it bring? There has to be a reward in it, there can't be that many psychopaths in a small town who just do it for the craic. It seems like this could just be the beginning.
    So many questions! And I haven't even really addressed what happened in the ep.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 21,634 ✭✭✭✭Richard Dower


    ^ i still haven't seen the finale, no idea who -A is, but here is some casting news....Mona upped to series regular: http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/pretty-little-liars-janel-parrish-mona-301781


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,461 ✭✭✭dee.


    To be honest, I though the episode was complete shite.
    The writer and cast had said how the show was going to be different from the books, and A wouldn't be the same as the books...it was exactly the same..everything down to how Mona was revealed as A! They also made it so obvious it was her over the last couple of eps with all the screentime they gave her. I thought that was just to make people think it was her, but we would all be shocked when the true person was revealed.

    I really wanted it to be Ezra to be honest. That would have been a great reveal. When he took off his mask I was thinking BOO-YA! because the episode is called unmasked..but it wasn't him.

    Did anyone else notice the girl in the red dress lurking around in the background during the dance? She seemed to stand out a lot..not sure if it was intentional or not..

    I have a feeling they're going to run with the twin storyline now, and Allisons twin will be part of the A team/possibly the leader/header of it.


    Overall, disappointing and after watching the show for nearly two years I feel let down!


  • Registered Users Posts: 158 ✭✭Noelly


    dee. wrote: »
    To be honest, I though the episode was complete shite.
    The writer and cast had said how the show was going to be different from the books, and A wouldn't be the same as the books...it was exactly the same..everything down to how Mona was revealed as A! They also made it so obvious it was her over the last couple of eps with all the screentime they gave her. I thought that was just to make people think it was her, but we would all be shocked when the true person was revealed.

    I really wanted it to be Ezra to be honest. That would have been a great reveal. When he took off his mask I was thinking BOO-YA! because the episode is called unmasked..but it wasn't him.

    Did anyone else notice the girl in the red dress lurking around in the background during the dance? She seemed to stand out a lot..not sure if it was intentional or not..

    I have a feeling they're going to run with the twin storyline now, and Allisons twin will be part of the A team/possibly the leader/header of it.


    Overall, disappointing and after watching the show for nearly two years I feel let down!

    Wasn't the blonde girl in the red dress the girl at the dance who sent a text from her phone to Aria's by the look of it? It showed her from behind peering down at them so it made it out to seem like she was part of the A Team..

    Also in the books, I think Mona died? when they found out she was A and fell off the cliff, so it must be different from the books?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,178 ✭✭✭_Bella_


    I have to say I'm really disappointed by the episode. I expected that it would end up being more than one person, but I realise now the writers have absolutely no clue as to what they are doing. I read an interview that said they only decided who A was at the beginning of the second season. This really annoys me, as I think they should have known A from the start to give it better direction and clues. This whole "A Team" thing is really frustrating and sounds like something thrown together at the last thing. And the Ezria kiss was just stupid, did they really just openly kiss at a school function with nobody noticing...? Finally did no one else just assume the girl in the black dress was Melissa, it looked exactly like her.


  • Registered Users Posts: 205 ✭✭trendy88


    I think my disappointment mainly stems from the fact that they decided to go the same way as the books- kinda seems lazy. Like I've known all along how the books played out so I was hoping for something different but I just wasn't at all surprised in the end.

    Saying that-there is plenty of mystery to keep me tuning in.
    Who Killed Maya? Who killed Alison? Is Mona Really A or is she just someones Minion?

    I read somewhere that Season 3 will kick off 6 months after the events in the finale. Not a huge fan of this idea-Time Jumps never seem to work in tv shows-seem a kind of easy tool for the writers to get a carte Blanche on the storyline.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 21,634 ✭✭✭✭Richard Dower


    I watched episode 23/24 and 25 last night.....tbh, no shockers, i knew for several episodes Mona was -A, because i could see the producers tryna pull a bluff with all the recent -A activity directed her away, i knew they were trying to distract the viewer into thinking she wasn't -A

    As for Maya....i knew she be dead also, it just seemed too obvious when she disappeared, and the texts Emily got smelled like -A, but i must praise the finale as it was like a movie!

    It felt like a 50's film noire, the wipes, the edits, the Bates Motel ripoff/homage. Janel Parrish really impressed me with her acting, she showed a ton of range here as opposed to anything upto this point.....she's a good little actress!

    With her upped to series regular for season 3 + in the looney bin i expect lots of creepy hospital visits, flashbacks and -A Team meetings in the future :-)

    Season 2B has beeen terrific overall, the wrting and shockers/twists/reveals have been much better then season 2A, which i thought was quite poor.

    I'm giving the finale 4/5 simply because there was no real shockers per Mona etc. - Mona was -A in the books + the end suggests again they ARE going down the twin route!

    It's either Courtney being Alison or vice versa, Jennna....not blind!, haha....i knew it but they way they did that scene at her sitting at the dressing table was superb, extremly well done!

    I jumped a few times in that creepy doll hospital, overall great stuff those last three eps.!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 21,634 ✭✭✭✭Richard Dower


    trendy88 wrote: »
    I think my disappointment mainly stems from the fact that they decided to go the same way as the books- kinda seems lazy. Like I've known all along how the books played out so I was hoping for something different but I just wasn't at all surprised in the end.

    Saying that-there is plenty of mystery to keep me tuning in.
    Who Killed Maya? Who killed Alison? Is Mona Really A or is she just someones Minion?

    I read somewhere that Season 3 will kick off 6 months after the events in the finale. Not a huge fan of this idea-Time Jumps never seem to work in tv shows-seem a kind of easy tool for the writers to get a carte Blanche on the storyline.


    ^ yes, i agee having Mona as -A was kinda lazy, but as Marlene King said....it made sense/logical. While it wasn't a huge shocker/reveal it did at least make sense for it to be Mona, but of course we know there is more then one -A, it seems Team -A is Melissa/Jenna/Lucas/Ian/Mona/Garrett etc.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 21,634 ✭✭✭✭Richard Dower


    _Bella_ wrote: »
    I have to say I'm really disappointed by the episode. I expected that it would end up being more than one person, but I realise now the writers have absolutely no clue as to what they are doing. I read an interview that said they only decided who A was at the beginning of the second season. This really annoys me, as I think they should have known A from the start to give it better direction and clues. This whole "A Team" thing is really frustrating and sounds like something thrown together at the last thing. And the Ezria kiss was just stupid, did they really just openly kiss at a school function with nobody noticing...? Finally did no one else just assume the girl in the black dress was Melissa, it looked exactly like her.

    From the very start i think most people concluded that -A was more then one person, it would have been impossible for Mona to have done everything and been everywhere that related to -A, but i accept the "making it up as we go along" thing, alot of shows do that.

    Lucas on the -A Team huh?.....and Meliisa and (not blind) Jenna ;)


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 21,634 ✭✭✭✭Richard Dower


    FouxDaFaFa wrote: »
    Jesus Christ. That was intense. And confusing.

    I'm going to give people a grace period to see it and then we can discuss it properly. All I can say is, there was a "jump" moment which made me drop a sandwich. God damn you, A! :pac:

    Aye...i needed time to catch up ;) - ep. 24 made me jump more then the finale, jaysus....the doll hospital was freaky and creepy as hell!, i'm a 39-year-old male and i jumped a few times and was clutching the remote.......:(

    :D


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