Irish rebel music

af_thefragile · 25-12-2011 04:00AM

Stiff Little Fingers is as far as I'ld go and that was back in my punk rocker days...

I'ld second to that stuff being fairly awful...

Defiler Of The Coffin · 25-12-2011 04:01AM

chin_grin wrote: »

This use of inclusive language irks me for events you had nothing to do with. :pac:

The songs are about the history of Ireland. Doesn't matter if I fought in the GPO or not. We all live in this present state because of what happened then

chin_grin · 25-12-2011 04:04AM

Defiler Of The Coffin wrote: »

The songs are about the history of Ireland. Doesn't matter if I fought in the GPO or not. We all live in this present state because of what happened then

No. They're one sided stories of the history of Ireland.

So these songs don't really apply to me now. Yeah, that sounds a bit cold but feck it.

Defiler Of The Coffin · 25-12-2011 04:09AM

chin_grin wrote: »

No. They're one sided stories of the history of Ireland.

So these songs don't really apply to me now. Yeah, that sounds a bit cold but feck it.

Yes, they are one-sided. But most non-colonialists in Ireland won't have a problem with that.

Fair enough you might not identify with the songs but you cannot deny they are relevant to Irish history.

Killer Pigeon · 25-12-2011 04:44AM

"The Queen of Tara, she was me bitch,
I rode her back and sideways.
Up the bum and in the gab
and up the Glenamaddy.

Yada dum dum dum
dee da da da
da dum dum dum
ya da da

Yada dum dum dum
de de de dee
ya dum dum
de de da da"

JONJO THE MISER · 25-12-2011 04:47AM

nothing like rebel music but of course its not musch loved by the jackeens who if it was left to them we would still be under british rule and that is a simple fact.

ColeTrain · 25-12-2011 04:47AM

Killer Pigeon wrote: »

"The Queen of Tara, she was me bitch,
I rode her back and sideways.
Up the bum and in the gab
and up the Glenamaddy.

Yada dum dum dum
dee da da da
da dum dum dum
ya da da

Yada dum dum dum
de de de dee
ya dum dum
de de da da"

Poor attempt tbh.

Killer Pigeon · 25-12-2011 04:48AM

ColeTrain wrote: »

Poor attempt tbh.

Well at least I made an attempt....

seanybiker · 25-12-2011 04:49AM

Killer Pigeon wrote: »

Well at least I made an attempt....

I liked it. Killer pigeon for eurovision

finbarrk · 25-12-2011 04:55AM

Hard to beat 'the boys of the old brigade' being belted out.
Especially in Bairds in Glasgow. Or several more pubs there.
Suppose we will give it a lash in Poland in June!

Killer Pigeon · 25-12-2011 04:57AM

finbarrk wrote: »

Hard to beat 'the boys of the old brigade' being belted out.
Especially in Bairds in Glasgow. Or several more pubs there.
Suppose we will give it a lash in Poland in June!

What patriotic tune does this verse ring too sir?

conor.hogan.2 · 25-12-2011 05:58AM

Killer Pigeon wrote: »

"The Queen of Tara, she was me bitch,
I rode her back and sideways.
Up the bum and in the gab
and up the Glenamaddy.

Yada dum dum dum
dee da da da
da dum dum dum
ya da da

Yada dum dum dum
de de de dee
ya dum dum
de de da da"

There is so many things wrong with this post.

Killer Pigeon · 25-12-2011 05:59AM

conor.hogan.2 wrote: »

There is so many things wrong with this post.

Well if there's something wrong with it, improve it!!!!

conor.hogan.2 · 25-12-2011 06:02AM

Killer Pigeon wrote: »

Well if there's something wrong with it, improve it!!!!

Well I suck at music and poetry and the history behind it is just all too far wrong to be improved.

Medb, who I presume you meant by queen of tara would have been nobodys bitch quite the opposite you (ye/anyone) would have been hers. She may have been the godess medb too, but either way.

lowlife · 25-12-2011 06:14AM

I was born in London of Irish parents. I now live in Sligo and have lived on and off in Ireland for years.

I play traditional music but, it seems, my accent isn't right with some people. I have been called a 'Black and Tan', 'Plastic Paddy', 'Blow-in' etc. A few weeks ago, after I had been playing Trad. music non-stop for 2 hours, a guy came up to me and said 'This country is all ours now you know'. I have also been targetted by the Gardai once or twice. I don't need an education in Irish history. FFS it didn't all happen last week did it?

PS. All the people I mentioned were drunk at the time...

later12 · 25-12-2011 06:20AM

I love folk music, but I just can't get behind any Irish rebel music because the sentiment in it always pisses me off.

There's something really arrogant and vainglorious about the Wolfe Tones and that whole brand of twee, incendiary style of music that renders it unattractive, despite whatever musical or lyrical merit it might have in itself.

The only exception is music which can be self deprecating, or real in a sense that it doesn't idealize the Irish despite its deservedly low opinion of the English.

A great example is Monto, which is mocking of the English as well as presenting an image of Dublin and of Ireland which is neither particularly complimentary or idealistic

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wny_0pi4hR4

conor.hogan.2 · 25-12-2011 06:34AM

Fantastic song, but I hope you do not think that is "rebel" music.

later12 · 25-12-2011 07:04AM

Well that's debatable.

It strikes a nationalist tone with:

The dirty Duke of Gloucester,
The dirty old impostor

and expands on this with historical reference to the final visit of Queen Victoria to Ireland and the controversial 'Patriotic Children's Treat'. Cynicism is also expressed at the British interest in Irish canon fodder.

You see the Dublin Fusiliers,
The dirty old bamboozlers,
They went and got the childer, one, two, three.
Marching from the Linen Hall
There's one for every cannonball,
And Vicky's going to send them all o'er the sea.

The song ends with the Lord Mayor of Dublin asking the Queen, through Irish, to kiss his ass.

The line between rebel music and protest music is a reasonably thin one, and the terms are often used interchangeably in an Irish context. Monto is a rebel song not only in that context, but also in terms of its disaffection for British traits and for British authority.

sandmanporto · 25-12-2011 08:14AM

later10 wrote: »

Well that's debatable.

It strikes a nationalist tone with:

The dirty Duke of Gloucester,
The dirty old impostor

and expands on this with historical reference to the final visit of Queen Victoria to Ireland and the controversial 'Patriotic Children's Treat'. Cynicism is also expressed at the British interest in Irish canon fodder.

You see the Dublin Fusiliers,
The dirty old bamboozlers,
They went and got the childer, one, two, three.
Marching from the Linen Hall
There's one for every cannonball,
And Vicky's going to send them all o'er the sea.

The song ends with the Lord Mayor of Dublin asking the Queen, through Irish, to kiss his ass.

The line between rebel music and protest music is a reasonably thin one, and the terms are often used interchangeably in an Irish context. Monto is a rebel song not only in that context, but also in terms of its disaffection for British traits and for British authority.

you seem like an educated chap may i add. but weren't you the one insuling redheads a while back?
do you feel as though those who made this country a nation deserve respect?

KeithAFC · 25-12-2011 12:18PM

FearDark wrote: »

In fairness. Its awful shíte.

A lot of it is. But it has some decent tunes. :eek:

charlemont · 25-12-2011 12:31PM

I love this tune.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHY14OVk7r0

charlemont · 25-12-2011 12:35PM

First time I heard this I were in tears laughing, Its like something you would hear in the jungle, Some song though absolutely class.

Dyr · 25-12-2011 12:51PM

Love an oul' rebel song, can't stand all these celtic supporter cabaret bands though.

Liam Byrne · 25-12-2011 12:53PM

UrbanSea wrote: »

Some great songs. Nothing beats a night in the pub with some trad and the locals singing along.

My favourite:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6emGGwGqhI

Probably my most hated because of that retarded twisted chant.

eirekielthy · 25-12-2011 12:53PM

Doctor Jimbob wrote: »

ColeTrain wrote: »

Does anybody listen to it on this isle?

I turn on the radio ( no mp3 these days ) and I hear everything but the rebs. Why? Does our history not matter?

I'll give you an example of the music we're lacking. Is it illegal or what?

Mods: Trying to get a general opinion on this.

I do but I use CDs I've tons of tem

eirekielthy · 25-12-2011 12:55PM

Liam Byrne wrote: »

UrbanSea wrote: »

Some great songs. Nothing beats a night in the pub with some trad and the locals singing along.

My favourite:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6emGGwGqhI

Probably my most hated because of that retarded twisted chant.

U talk some **** boy I bet u listen to all the orange music

kfallon · 25-12-2011 12:55PM

I am listening to this right now, one of the greatest songs ever imo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bCSUXQF5Bdk

kfallon · 25-12-2011 01:01PM

Here's another good one, however this is a more clever rebel song, it has rebel undertones but it's almost like a code, you might need to listen to it 4 or 5 times to get it. Hidden meanings and clever metaphors everywhere. It's not your run of the mill rebel song, more 'upmarket' rebel song if you were, the thinking man's kind. More poetry than song if you please:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7De5LrbLKc

:pac:

Dyr · 25-12-2011 01:04PM

COuld everyone stop posting horrible ****e like eire og and the bhoys or the green irish celtic belfast brigade band or whatever other crap is doing the circuit over in glasgow? Good lads.

fuxache

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gixzEtC2I8g

aaronjumper · 25-12-2011 01:09PM

I do not like it. Not because it's fashionable
to not like it, I could just never get into it.

As to why it's not played on the radio because they pander to the masses and only play whatever's in the charts. Which is why I buy CD's. I'm my own personal DJ and I love all the songs I play

Irish rebel music

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