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    #1142
    K-9
    Registered Users Posts: 43,311 ✭✭✭✭K-9


    Android 666 wrote: »
    You're wrong. If it's in your plan your stay will be covered in one of the semi-private hospital up to a maximum amount of days (i.e. 100 days).

    Was on about counseling, could be wrong though.

    Mad Men's Don Draper : What you call love was invented by guys like me, to sell nylons.



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    #1143
    TeddyTedson
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    saa wrote: »
    I'm pretty sure its something else, its always distinguished as two very different things yet they're associated with each other but anxiety is not a form of depression going by the definition of depression.
    I'd see it as anxiety the far side of the worry spectrum and depression the far side of the sadness spectrum. Yeah I know its more complicated than that, you can have one without the other or both or different time periods of more anxiety or more depression.
    I imagine major anxiety could push some one over the edge, possibly to the point of suicide, although the person may not be depressed. Is that a fair statement?


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    #1144
    steddyeddy
    Registered Users Posts: 27,564 ✭✭✭✭steddyeddy


    I would say anxiety is definatly asociated with depression.


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    #1145
    ILikeBananas
    Registered Users Posts: 785 ✭✭✭ILikeBananas


    Came across this a few weeks ago. It's a very clever way of portraying a common problem that depression sufferers run into with friends and family.


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    #1146
    paddythere
    Registered Users Posts: 439 ✭✭paddythere


    im pretty sure i have it. i feel unbelievably sad some days for no reason and wont leave the house or talk to anyone. i am not overweight and am only 22 but i dont want my family to know about and im sure that they do not suspect it despite how it sounds


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    guitarzero
    Registered Users Posts: 1,425 ✭✭✭guitarzero


    http://www.foodforthebrain.org/content.asp?id_Content=1

    A website about nutrition and depression I just came across.

    One thing I find about depression is effort always seems like so much work. To stick to something whether it be diet, exercise or just looking for a job and doing shopping can be pretty tough at times.

    I think if theres one thing that could be worth doing is stepping up on the diet aspect. I've started taking cod liver oil, Vit B and multi-vitamins and cutting back on other foods and hoping to stick at it.

    I'm only coming around to the idea that there are perhaps a lot more folks who suffer of depression than I thought. It can seem like everyone else is having a good time or content with what they have, often peoples vitality and energy can contrast my low key mood which is something I've become quite sensitive to.

    I havent really browsed through the thread but perhaps if folks who suffer of depression write what works for them, give suggestions, etc it would be great as judging by the pole, a lot of folks are simply enduring it without doing anything about it.


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    #1148
    paddythere
    Registered Users Posts: 439 ✭✭paddythere


    i eat really well pal i do mma and take the nutrition and diet very seriously. i take multivitamins and cod liver oil.thanks though brother


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    #1149
    LeeHoffmann
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    #1150
    saa
    Registered Users Posts: 2,194 ✭✭✭saa


    TeddyTedson wrote: »
    I imagine major anxiety could push some one over the edge, possibly to the point of suicide, although the person may not be depressed. Is that a fair statement?

    I wasn't trying to belittle anxiety they do feel very similar and I never incinuated sadness spectrum has worse effects than the worry anything that is out of balance or control in a persons life can put them in the river of suicide.
    Anxiety is often an issue for someone with suicidal thoughts but also if someone appears to be exceedingly happy even manic they can be at the point of suicide. Different (related or not depending on individual everyons different) but just as serious.


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    #1151
    WesternNight
    Registered Users Posts: 9,286 ✭✭✭WesternNight


    guitarzero wrote: »
    http://www.foodforthebrain.org/content.asp?id_Content=1

    A website about nutrition and depression I just came across.

    One thing I find about depression is effort always seems like so much work. To stick to something whether it be diet, exercise or just looking for a job and doing shopping can be pretty tough at times.

    I think if theres one thing that could be worth doing is stepping up on the diet aspect. I've started taking cod liver oil, Vit B and multi-vitamins and cutting back on other foods and hoping to stick at it.

    A healthy diet is very important for overall health, but I'm not aware of any conclusive evidence supporting the notion that depression is treatable/curable with a particular diet.

    Just to clarify for anyone who may misinterpret that website.


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    #1152
    Logical Fallacy
    Registered Users Posts: 5,933 ✭✭✭Logical Fallacy


    WesternNight wrote: »
    A healthy diet is very important for overall health, but I'm not aware of any conclusive evidence supporting the notion that depression is treatable/curable with a particular diet.

    Just to clarify for anyone who may misinterpret that website.

    The only thing i have seen is that supplementary zinc can have a positive effect for females, but not for males but even that study mentioned the lack of evidence for cause/effect.


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    Killer Pigeon
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    :(


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    #1154
    guitarzero
    Registered Users Posts: 1,425 ✭✭✭guitarzero


    The fact that depression seems to remain as something that science is still in the dark about, I wouldnt back any diet or regime as a certified solution. All I do is check out what's being encouraged, allow myself to discern and give it a go, or not.

    I think on the balance, its probably better to make a change in terms of healthy eating as you cant lose but possibly win.


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    #1155
    Deus Ex Machina
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,556 ✭✭✭Deus Ex Machina


    I avoid antidepressants because I believe that depression and anxiety are part of who I am, they are part of my experience of the human condition. It seems wrong and somehow shortsighted to select a particular set of emotions, deem them negative and then take medication to attenuate or removed them.

    Some of my moments of sadness seem to be based on an honest assessment of the facts of life. I dwell on these things because they are part of the world and part of the creative process. I know these thoughts wont result in happiness at that moment, but they are rewarding in some way. I like the way I look at the world, and the way this perspective influences me. Without this sadness I wouldn't be able to hold my view as it is.

    Other times I feel as if I have no control of my emotions. On these occasions depression descends on me without warning, as if emanating from some external source. It is like watching a storm approaching on the horizon. I can see it coming, I know it will hit me, but I can't stop it. It is this which I consider to be real depression. I am not in it's grasp at this moment, but it could come any second. Even still, I don't want to stop it. I am happy with so much of what I am and I can't help but think it I wouldn't be as I am today if it weren't for depression.


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    #1156
    yahoo_moe
    Registered Users Posts: 2,397 ✭✭✭yahoo_moe


    paddythere wrote: »
    im pretty sure i have it. i feel unbelievably sad some days for no reason and wont leave the house or talk to anyone. i am not overweight and am only 22 but i dont want my family to know about and im sure that they do not suspect it despite how it sounds
    paddy, have you spoken to anyone about this? Whether it's a friend, family member, your GP or one of the helplines, it's a very important first step.

    Deus Ex, not sure if you saw the Irish Times article by Headstrong founder Tony Bates the other day but one part that really jumped out to me was:
    mental health has everything to do with having a positive sense of who we are and feeling confident enough to be who we really are with others.

    Problems can start to develop when a gap between who we really are and who we feel we should be gets too wide, and when we find ourselves working hard to cover up our flaws and win the approval and acceptance of others.

    For some people, it works the way you described above and, for whatever reason, they don't want to leave behind the person they've become. But there was certainly a 'you' at some point that wasn't depressed and there's no reason to think you were any less creative or wise or whatever at that stage. Depression and mental illness are sometimes glamourised by their links to Van Gogh, Stephen Fry, etc. etc. but if you think it's an issue for you, I'd urge you to get support. Creativity comes from your understanding of things and while you might change, it doesn't have to be a bad change. EDIT: Just to add that seeing an episode coming makes it more preventable straight away. It's much harder to stop something you don't know is coming and it's a good sign that you spot early warning signs. Use that information and give yourself the best chance.


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    #1157
    gandhi123
    Registered Users Posts: 245 ✭✭gandhi123


    This went viral today... personally i found myself with a big lump in my throat..
    a weird sense of guilty came over me..:(:(

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TdkNn3Ei-Lg


    This kid has bigger cojones then i ever will..


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    #1158
    El Weirdo
    Registered Users Posts: 11,646 ✭✭✭✭El Weirdo


    I'm locking this one now and I've moved the last couple of posts to the more current, active thread on depression.


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