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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,632 ✭✭✭ormond lad


    Results from some of the weekends games
    South Under 19 League
    Section 1
    Cork Con 21 21 Ballincollig
    Section 2
    Midleton 15 19 Cobh Pirates
    Dolphin 8 12 Sundays Well
    South Under 19 Development League
    Muskerry 0 8 Old Christians
    South Under 17 League
    Section 1
    Cork Con 33 0 Youghal
    Highfield Dolphin Conceded by Dolphin
    Section 2
    Dunmanway 10 41 Skibbereen
    Ballincollig 22 10 Bandon
    Section 3
    Mitchelstown Fermoy Conceded by Mitchelstown
    Midleton 6 33 Cobh Pirates
    Section 4
    Carrigaline 12 12 Old Christians
    West Munster Under 17 League
    Tralee 25 0 Castleisland
    East Under 17 League Section B
    Clonmel 73 5 Waterford City
    Dungarvan 59 7 Galbally
    Fethard 22 19 Clanwilliam

    East Under 15 League North
    Nenagh Ormond 12 5 Thurles

    East Under 13 League North
    Cashel 7 15 Thurles


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,632 ✭✭✭ormond lad


    ormond lad wrote: »
    Munster beat connacht in their final interpro in the sportsground today 15-12. Leinster beat Ulster to win the interpro title

    Leinster Under-18 (Club) side win Interpro' title...
    8 October 2011, 2:45 pm
    By Editor


    Leinster Rugby

    The Leinster Under-18 (Club) side, sponsored by Nivea for Men, came from behind to seal the interprovincial title by defeating Ulster 15-12 in Campbell College, Belfast on Saturday afternoon...


    Ross Hynes got the visitors off to a dream start when he touched down for the opening try after just 2 minutes and the conversion was slotted home by Fergal Cleary to give Leinster a 7-0 lead.

    The game see-sawed but Ulster eventually regained the initiative through Ryan Cobb who scored his side’s opening points after 32 minutes though Cleary extended the lead to five points with a penalty moments later.

    However, though Graeme Currie missed the opening conversion, he made amends with a strike on the stroke of half-time after Adam Doherty’s try to give the hosts a 12-10 half time lead.

    With dry conditions greeting the Leinster side for the first time in this series they produced some fine individual performances not least from Enniscorthy wing James White who beat three tackles to race clear for his side’s second try of the game.

    Leinster withstood some late Ulster pressure to hold on and deservedly clinch the title after previous wins over Munster and Connacht. LEINSTER UNDER-18 (CLUB):
    15: Stephen Duke (Gorey)
    14: Eoghan Feane (Portlaoise) / Niall Campbell (De la Salle Palmerston) 33
    13: Sean Moran (Kilkenny)
    12: James Doyle (Greystones)
    11: James White (Enniscorthy)
    10: Fergal Cleary (Navan)
    9: Ross Hynes (Arklow) / Peter Connolly (Edenderry) 33
    1: Peter Dooley (Birr) CAPTAIN
    2: Cian Byrne (Tullamore) / Shane Byrne (Wicklow) 59
    3: Brian Cunningham (Navan) / Stephen Gardiner (Gorey) 40
    4: Josh O'Rourke (De la Salle Palmerston)
    5: Leon Martin (Tullamore) / Diarmaid Hickey (Kilkenny) 56
    6: Eddie Earle (Gorey)
    7: Stephen Keelan (Navan)
    8: Killian Sweeney (Malahide) / Shane Mulvany (Greystones) 60

    REPLACEMENT NOT USED: Eoghan Carron (Skerries)

    Coach: Eric Miller
    Assistant Coach: Dan van Zyl
    Manager: Patrick Keena
    Conditioning Coaches: Eugene McEntagart, Colin O'Hare
    Kit Man: Noel Ferguson
    Physio: Ian McGovern
    http://www.leinsterrugby.ie/domestic/newsroom/8599.php


  • Registered Users Posts: 136 ✭✭rugby_fan


    ormond lad wrote: »
    Leinster Under-18 (Club) side win Interpro' title...
    8 October 2011, 2:45 pm
    By Editor


    Leinster Rugby

    The Leinster Under-18 (Club) side, sponsored by Nivea for Men, came from behind to seal the interprovincial title by defeating Ulster 15-12 in Campbell College, Belfast on Saturday afternoon...


    Ross Hynes got the visitors off to a dream start when he touched down for the opening try after just 2 minutes and the conversion was slotted home by Fergal Cleary to give Leinster a 7-0 lead.

    The game see-sawed but Ulster eventually regained the initiative through Ryan Cobb who scored his side’s opening points after 32 minutes though Cleary extended the lead to five points with a penalty moments later.

    However, though Graeme Currie missed the opening conversion, he made amends with a strike on the stroke of half-time after Adam Doherty’s try to give the hosts a 12-10 half time lead.

    With dry conditions greeting the Leinster side for the first time in this series they produced some fine individual performances not least from Enniscorthy wing James White who beat three tackles to race clear for his side’s second try of the game.

    Leinster withstood some late Ulster pressure to hold on and deservedly clinch the title after previous wins over Munster and Connacht. LEINSTER UNDER-18 (CLUB):
    15: Stephen Duke (Gorey)
    14: Eoghan Feane (Portlaoise) / Niall Campbell (De la Salle Palmerston) 33
    13: Sean Moran (Kilkenny)
    12: James Doyle (Greystones)
    11: James White (Enniscorthy)
    10: Fergal Cleary (Navan)
    9: Ross Hynes (Arklow) / Peter Connolly (Edenderry) 33
    1: Peter Dooley (Birr) CAPTAIN
    2: Cian Byrne (Tullamore) / Shane Byrne (Wicklow) 59
    3: Brian Cunningham (Navan) / Stephen Gardiner (Gorey) 40
    4: Josh O'Rourke (De la Salle Palmerston)
    5: Leon Martin (Tullamore) / Diarmaid Hickey (Kilkenny) 56
    6: Eddie Earle (Gorey)
    7: Stephen Keelan (Navan)
    8: Killian Sweeney (Malahide) / Shane Mulvany (Greystones) 60

    REPLACEMENT NOT USED: Eoghan Carron (Skerries)

    Coach: Eric Miller
    Assistant Coach: Dan van Zyl
    Manager: Patrick Keena
    Conditioning Coaches: Eugene McEntagart, Colin O'Hare
    Kit Man: Noel Ferguson
    Physio: Ian McGovern
    http://www.leinsterrugby.ie/domestic/newsroom/8599.php


    Congrats to Leinster, looks like der still very dominant underage, anyone at the match!?


  • Registered Users Posts: 36 skip64


    Not sure if that is a correct statement.. Leinster/Munster on a $h11ty day was not a true reflection. Note - Munster bet Ulster 13-0. took some time to combat the Connacht pack last week. It was a good performance by Munster...as Connacht were up fo the game. Am sure they wanted to win this one.. to be honest there is not much between the sides. Like any underage...it about on the day... At this underage lark to long to understand how they work...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,632 ✭✭✭ormond lad


    Any updates on how other provincial leagues are going at 17s/19s?
    In munster the 19s league in east munster was due to start on sunday but some clubs were not able to field for the scheduled start of the league so the start of the league has been pushed back a few weeks to allow more clubs be ready.
    afaik only 2 or 3 clubs would have been ready for this weekend, with the delay of a few weeks another 4 or 5 teams will be ready


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,632 ✭✭✭ormond lad


    ormond lad wrote: »
    Any updates on how other provincial leagues are going at 17s/19s?
    In munster the 19s league in east munster was due to start on sunday but some clubs were not able to field for the scheduled start of the league so the start of the league has been pushed back a few weeks to allow more clubs be ready.
    afaik only 2 or 3 clubs would have been ready for this weekend, with the delay of a few weeks another 4 or 5 teams will be ready
    North Munster u19 League
    Section 1- Garryowen, Young Munster, NCW/Abbeyfeale, Old Crescent, Bruff
    Section 2- Shannon/St.Mary's, UlBohs/Richmond, Thomond, St.Senan's, Ennis
    League starts Sunday 23rd with league final scheduled for 4th Dec

    North Munster u17 league
    why such lopsided groups in terms of numbers??
    Group A
    Thomond
    Bruff
    Young Munster
    Ennis

    Group B
    Shannon
    Garryowen
    Richmond
    Ballina-Killaloe
    Kilrush
    Old Crescent
    Estuary
    UL Bohemian

    u19 Premier North
    Navan
    Barnhall
    Portlaoise-Portarlington
    Dundalk
    Boyne
    Naas
    R&B Rebels
    Tullamore

    u19 Premier South
    Enniscorthy
    Gorey
    Wicklow
    Carlow
    Kilkenny
    New Ross
    Clondalkin

    u19 Division 1 North
    Balbriggan
    Midland Warriors
    West Offaly
    North Meath
    Longford
    Ratoath
    Athboy

    u19 Division 1 South
    Arklow
    Cill Dara
    Athy
    Edenderry
    Clane
    Wexford
    Tullow

    u19 School/Youth League
    Greystones
    Wanderers
    Terenure
    DLSP
    Malahide
    Seapoint
    Guinness

    u17 Premier North
    Barnhall
    Mullingar A
    Dundalk
    Ardee
    Boyne A
    Naas A
    Navan
    Tullamore

    u17 Premier South
    Kilkenny
    Carlow
    Gorey A
    Enniscorthy
    Athy
    New Ross
    Wexford A
    Wicklow

    u17 Division 1 North
    Clondalkin
    North Meath
    Boyne B
    Balbriggan
    Ashbourne
    Ratoath
    Birr
    Longford

    u17 Division 1 South
    North Kildare A
    Tullow
    Portlaoise
    Edenderry
    Cill Dara
    Roscrea
    Portarlington

    u17 Division 2
    Wexford B
    Athboy
    Gorey B
    Clane
    Arklow
    Mullingar B
    Naas B
    North Kildare B



    U17 School/Youth League Section A
    Lansdowne 1
    Wanderers
    Newbridge
    DLSP
    Naas A
    Guinness
    Greystones
    Blackrock
    Clontarf


    u17 School/Youth League Section B
    Skerries
    Coolmine
    Suttonians
    Malahide
    Seapoint
    Lansdowne 2
    St Marys
    Navan


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,632 ✭✭✭ormond lad


    Leagues started in leinster today
    games were played in premier u19 division with no games in division 1 north and one played in division 1 south
    Games were also played at u17 level in Leinster with most of the games scheduled for munster to be played tommorow

    u19 Premier North
    Barnhall 14 6 Tullamore
    Portlaoise-Portarlington 22 32 Naas
    R&B Rebels 11 6 Dundalk
    Navan 13 19 Boyne

    u19 Premier South
    Enniscorthy 7 0 Gorey
    Carlow 38 0 New Ross
    Kilkenny 5 34 Wicklow

    u19 Division 1 South
    Wexford 33 14 Cill Dara

    u17 Premier North
    Barnhall 17 24 Tullamore
    Mullingar A 36 3 Naas A
    Ardee 8 45 Dundalk
    Navan 24 0 Boyne A

    u17 Premier South
    Wexford A 37 0 Athy
    Carlow 31 0 New Ross
    Kilkenny 8 15 Wicklow

    u17 Division 1 North
    Ashbourne 39 19 Birr
    Ratoath 14 20 North Meath
    Longford 24 0 Clondalkin

    u17 Division 1 South
    Roscrea 27 5 Edenderry
    Portlaoise 10 13 Cill Dara
    North Kildare A Tullow

    u17 Division 2
    North Kildare B 3 36 Mullingar B
    Athboy Arklow
    Naas B 44 7 Gorey B

    Wexford 33 14Cill Dara


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,337 ✭✭✭Dave Joyce


    Any updates on how other provincial leagues are going at 17s/19s?

    Can only give you a club update and I wouldn't even bother checking the Connacht branch site cause its only updated bi-annually:rolleyes:

    The 17's league has started alright and can't remember who couldn't field today against Corinthians (my lads play 19's and 16's). There has been two kinda 19's blitz's and they are not even sure if there will be a 19's league at the moment.


  • Registered Users Posts: 196 ✭✭muscleshirt


    how many munster youths i wonder will get a call up for the virish trials???


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,632 ✭✭✭ormond lad


    how many munster youths i wonder will get a call up for the virish trials???
    You can imagine more than previous years, the only players i know at the moment that will be going to the irish trials are 3 of the buccaneers players who were in the connacht squad (seen this on twitter)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2 RugbyMad2011


    ormond lad wrote: »
    You can imagine more than previous years, the only players i know at the moment that will be going to the irish trials are 3 of the buccaneers players who were in the connacht squad (seen this on twitter)

    Where did you see this on twitter ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,632 ✭✭✭ormond lad


    Where did you see this on twitter ?
    Sorry, i was wrong there is 3 galwegians lads going to irish u20s trials this week... wrong club and wrong age group :o


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2 RugbyMad2011


    Any news on the trials yet? where abouts on twitter did you hear about the U.20s ?:)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,632 ✭✭✭ormond lad


    Any news on the trials yet? where abouts on twitter did you hear about the U.20s ?:)
    Nothing yet on who is near irish youths yet, iirc from previous years the initial sessions for irish youths are in early december so it might be a while yet before someone will hear anything, though someone will probably hear something before that.
    It was @Galwegians_RFC on twitter where i saw it mentioned about the 20s


  • Registered Users Posts: 196 ✭✭muscleshirt


    ormond lad wrote: »
    Nothing yet on who is near irish youths yet, iirc from previous years the initial sessions for irish youths are in early december so it might be a while yet before someone will hear anything, though someone will probably hear something before that.
    It was @Galwegians_RFC on twitter where i saw it mentioned about the 20s
    heard on the rumour mill, guys will have an idea who is in in 2 weeks time


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16 Mudfest


    The players have been picked for those, the lads have been notified if they have made it to the trials already I believe in the last few days. I don't know how many munster lads got in there, but hope the lads that were not picked for them aren't too disappointed, and that they remain very proud of their achievements to date


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,632 ✭✭✭ormond lad


    Mudfest wrote: »
    The players have been picked for those, the lads have been notified if they have made it to the trials already I believe in the last few days. I don't know how many munster lads got in there, but hope the lads that were not picked for them aren't too disappointed, and that they remain very proud of their achievements to date
    afaik there is at least 7 from munster in the squad with 1 more from munster def on the standby list


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16 Mudfest


    Did your club man make it into the initial squad, do you know?, Would obviously be interested to know who made it, but am sure that would only lead to more debate, think you gauged around that number alright, and if you do know the kids, would you after seeing the games concur?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,976 ✭✭✭profitius


    How many in the squad in total?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,632 ✭✭✭ormond lad


    Mudfest wrote: »
    Did your club man make it into the initial squad, do you know?, Would obviously be interested to know who made it, but am sure that would only lead to more debate, think you gauged around that number alright, and if you do know the kids, would you after seeing the games concur?
    profitius wrote: »
    How many in the squad in total?
    Mudfest afaik he didnt make the squad but prob didnt as he was injured and missed 2 of the interpro games. Again afaik there is 7 munster players from what ive heard in the squad with another on standby. there prob is more involved than that.
    The only other player ive heard to be involved is the leinster captain from birr peter dooley


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,976 ✭✭✭profitius


    I ment how many players there are in total in the Irish squad. I should have made it clearer.

    Btw, OL, do you know what positions the Munster lads play?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,632 ✭✭✭ormond lad


    profitius wrote: »
    I ment how many players there are in total in the Irish squad. I should have made it clearer.

    Btw, OL, do you know what positions the Munster lads play?
    Im not sure how many in total are in the squad.
    1 of the 2nd rows made it, the no 8 and no 7 made it and 3 or 4 outside backs made it


  • Registered Users Posts: 196 ✭✭muscleshirt


    ormond lad wrote: »
    Im not sure how many in total are in the squad.
    1 of the 2nd rows made it, the no 8 and no 7 made it and 3 or 4 outside backs made it
    any of the wingers make it?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16 Mudfest


    I could be wrong, but one of the centres and the two wings from say the Ulster game got picked from the backs that is as much as I have been told


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,632 ✭✭✭ormond lad


    Mudfest wrote: »
    I could be wrong, but one of the centres and the two wings from say the Ulster game got picked from the backs that is as much as I have been told
    The hooker, and no 8 that day have also been picked. Will be interesting to see who else has been picked and how many from each province as well as how many exiles are chosen


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16 Mudfest


    ormond lad wrote: »
    The hooker, and no 8 that day have also been picked. Will be interesting to see who else has been picked and how many from each province as well as how many exiles are chosen

    Is that seven in total so, 2, 5, 7, 8 and the three in the backs?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,632 ✭✭✭ormond lad


    Mudfest wrote: »
    Is that seven in total so, 2, 5, 7, 8 and the three in the backs?
    yes 7 in total that i know there may be more but i doubt it. according to someone on twitter who's brother is in the squad. a squad of 35 has been picked and there is 10 from leinster in the 35


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16 Mudfest


    ormond lad wrote: »
    yes 7 in total that i know there may be more but i doubt it. according to someone on twitter who's brother is in the squad. a squad of 35 has been picked and there is 10 from leinster in the 35

    Sorry to hear your club man did not make it, was a pity he only played the Ulster game, guess being injured went against him


  • Registered Users Posts: 136 ✭✭rugby_fan


    Anyone here of any other players that made the trial?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,632 ✭✭✭ormond lad


    rugby_fan wrote: »
    Anyone here of any other players that made the trial?
    they have a training camp before xmas where the squad may be cut down to just below 30, you might not see a squadlist before then so unless someone knows someone involved with ulster or connacht we may not know how many from each province, there also will prob be a considerable amount of exiles in the squad

    Any results from u17/19 league games today in munster and leinster???


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,803 ✭✭✭porterbelly


    Paul Griffin, prop
    Callum O'Connell, hooker
    Tadgh Leader, centre/fly half

    They're the 3 Wegians lads going for trials.

    I presume Danny Qualter (Buccs), Aaron Conneely (Corinthians), Kieran Marmion (Corinthians) will be in the squad as it is as they were in the WC squad last year.

    Other trialists from Connacht I'd imagine would be Callum Boland, Shane Layden, Jack Carty, Conor Finn (All Buccs)
    Conor Kindregan (UL Bohs/Monivea)
    Brian Moylett (Lansdowne)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,632 ✭✭✭ormond lad


    ormond lad wrote: »
    they have a training camp before xmas where the squad may be cut down to just below 30, you might not see a squadlist before then so unless someone knows someone involved with ulster or connacht we may not know how many from each province, there also will prob be a considerable amount of exiles in the squad

    Any results from u17/19 league games today in munster and leinster???
    Any results from league games played in munster today???

    u19 Premier North
    Tullamore 50 5 Portlaoise-Portarlington
    Naas 13 20 R&B Rebels
    Dundalk 8 7 Navan
    Boyne 27 15 Barnhall

    u19 Premier South
    Clondalkin 21 22 Carlow
    New Ross 32 17 Kilkenny
    Wicklow 8 8 Enniscorthy

    u19 Division 1 South
    Cill Dara 7 35 Arklow

    u17 Premier North
    Naas A 55 0 Ardee
    Dundalk 0 32 Navan
    Boyne A 22 29 Barnhall

    u17 Premier South
    Athy 15 7 Carlow
    New Ross 20 12 Kilkenny
    Wicklow 29 8 Enniscorthy

    u17 Division 1 North
    Balbriggan 5 34 Ashbourne
    North Meath 5 51 Longford
    Clondalkin 7 22 Boyne B

    u17 Division 1 South
    Tullow 5 24 Roscrea

    u17 Division 2
    Gorey B 0 71 Clane

    East Munster u19
    Kilfeacle 3 Nenagh 3

    East Munster u17
    Section A
    Nenagh 45 Cashel 6
    section B
    Waterford City 0 Dungarvan 63

    South Munster u17
    section 1
    Youghal 56 Douglas 17
    Sundays Well 5 Highfield 15
    section 2
    Clonakilty 12 Ballincollig 0
    Kinsale 40 Bantry Bay 12
    Bandon 15 Dunmanway 7
    Section 4
    Old Christians 29 Crosshaven 7
    Muskerry 34 Carrigaline 5

    West u17 League
    Killarney 17 0 Castleisland
    Corca Dhuibhne 13 46 Tralee


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,632 ✭✭✭ormond lad


    http://www.irishrugby.ie/news/24559.php

    Ireland Under-18 Clubs Squad -
    Cillian Ansbro - Youghal
    Joe Bercis - Exiles
    Caolin Blade - Monivea
    Russell Blair - Ballymoney
    Adam Byrne - Naas
    Cian Byrne - Tullamore
    Fergal Cleary - Navan
    Darren Coady - Waterpark
    Luke Connolly - Exiles
    Brian Cunningham - Navan
    Stephen Dalton - Exiles
    James Deehan - Exiles
    Adam Doherty - Banbridge
    Peter Dooley - Birr
    Eddie Earls - Gorey
    Adrian Enright - Abbeyfeale
    Mark Healy - Kanturk
    Nathan Higgins - Exiles
    Seamus Keating - Dungarvan
    Stephen Keelan - Navan
    Adam King - Exiles
    John Madigan - Charleville
    Kalani Moore - Waterpark
    Paul O'Donnell - Galwegians
    Jack O'Donoghue - Waterpark
    Killian O'Keeffe - Crosshaven
    Niall O'Neill - Waterpark
    Josh O'Rourke - De La Salle Palmerston
    James O'Sullivan - Exiles
    Conor Simpson - Coleraine
    Killian Sweeney - Malahide
    Francis Taggart - Exiles
    Tom Hilton-Stevens - Exiles
    Jacob Walsh - Ballinasloe
    Alex Webb - Exiles
    Jim White - Enniscorthy


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16 Mudfest


    Ormond Lad, maybe you could shed light on these selections, 10 munster representatives are great and well done to those lads. I know your club man Jonathan Hayes is unlucky that he was injured, but would of thought he would still be considered? I wonder who picks these lads, I would be indeed perplexed by a couple, not naming them, and the best of luck to them but how come Oisin O' Meara and J.H were not included, that 7 is seriously thought of I was led to believe and really shone. I know all group selections can be questioned and everyone would have different opinions, but I have seen these boys at east munster club games and a few division and the Thomand game and they and their performances certainly seemed to as stand out similar to that as playing for their respective clubs, which I would always use as an assessment and yard stick and they aren't bad.

    As I say selections can always cause debate, and not space for everyone but ???


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,632 ✭✭✭ormond lad


    Mudfest wrote: »
    Ormond Lad, maybe you could shed light on these selections, 10 munster representatives are great and well done to those lads. I know your club man Jonathan Hayes is unlucky that he was injured, but would of thought he would still be considered? I wonder who picks these lads, I would be indeed perplexed by a couple, not naming them, and the best of luck to them but how come Oisin O' Meara and J.H were not included, that 7 is seriously thought of I was led to believe and really shone. I know all group selections can be questioned and everyone would have different opinions, but I have seen these boys at east munster club games and a few division and the Thomand game and they and their performances certainly seemed to as stand out similar to that as playing for their respective clubs, which I would always use as an assessment and yard stick and they aren't bad.

    As I say selections can always cause debate, and not space for everyone but ???
    Jonny was unlucky to be injured and was not involved in some of the interpro games and im guessing didnt show enough in what he played to be given another look at by the irish youths coaches, his fitness(as much as it had improved) may also have played a factor.
    Oisin is highly regarded but he was very lucky to even make east munster and munster as some coaches felt he was too small to make it at the higher levels.
    Oisin has stood out any time ive seen him, one of the best technical tacklers there is but he is very slight and coaches would count that aginst him:(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16 Mudfest


    I met a Kilfeacle club man today in my work and the subject of rugby came up, as it would, I slagged him about only having one munster youth but stated that he was a good one and should fit well with the Irish group, could not beleive when he said he wasn't involved as far as he heard. I honestly presumed he had it wrong, but your post with the list confirmed it ( thought in previous you had said he was in).

    I have posted previously that he was light alright and indeed he is, but he is one tough boy, size means nothing to him, has some heart and skill. I think he is a serious natural 7 ( George Hook would love him) , there certainly is no better 7 in the east, his work rate, can't be touched ( and as I have seen him he rarely gives away penalties, yet turns over so much ball, forces so many errors, super tackling at a high rate and a good engine to booth).

    Coaches obviously got it right and wrong, heard that he was easily in the top 3 performers for the youths. Coaches go and forego talent and embrace brawn then. We have all seen it at divisional level where 'big boys' are dragged along and more talented boys discarded. I don't know if he would make the grade but he certainly deserves a chance at it more than others Ormond, as would J.H. I don't think I am wrong.

    Is it the munster set-up that put these boys forward, or how does the selection process go, again hate to say it but would question a few from that list, but won't mention who, best of luck to them all!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16 Mudfest


    Was wondering is there a similar squad for the schools?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,632 ✭✭✭ormond lad


    Mudfest wrote: »
    I met a Kilfeacle club man today in my work and the subject of rugby came up, as it would, I slagged him about only having one munster youth but stated that he was a good one and should fit well with the Irish group, could not beleive when he said he wasn't involved as far as he heard. I honestly presumed he had it wrong, but your post with the list confirmed it ( thought in previous you had said he was in).

    I have posted previously that he was light alright and indeed he is, but he is one tough boy, size means nothing to him, has some heart and skill. I think he is a serious natural 7 ( George Hook would love him) , there certainly is no better 7 in the east, his work rate, can't be touched ( and as I have seen him he rarely gives away penalties, yet turns over so much ball, forces so many errors, super tackling at a high rate and a good engine to booth).

    Coaches obviously got it right and wrong, heard that he was easily in the top 3 performers for the youths. Coaches go and forego talent and embrace brawn then. We have all seen it at divisional level where 'big boys' are dragged along and more talented boys discarded. I don't know if he would make the grade but he certainly deserves a chance at it more than others Ormond, as would J.H. I don't think I am wrong.

    Is it the munster set-up that put these boys forward, or how does the selection process go, again hate to say it but would question a few from that list, but won't mention who, best of luck to them all!
    Mudfest wrote: »
    Was wondering is there a similar squad for the schools?
    See the link in post 234 for the schools and u19s squads
    Ive seen oisin(normally terrorising our outhalf) play a few times and size isnt everything but he very nearly didnt make the munster squad as it was felt he was too small for interpro level. He is such a good tackler technically and as well as being very good at at the breakdown that his size doesnt matter, it will in a few years time if he wants to progress further but not now.
    My brother is friends with many of the lads who made the squad and some of the lads who made the squad had thought oisin had made the squad but didnt know for definate, i thought he might have, he was unlucky not to.
    Each province has a selector with the irish squad and they along with the coaching staff who attend each interpro pick the squad. AFAIK Tom Nyhan from mallow is the only munster man involved in the management of the irish squad


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,976 ✭✭✭profitius


    Anybody know who the number 10 playing for the youths against France last season in the FIFA AER U18 tournament is?

    Seen here setting up a try (3:40) scoring a try (10:50).


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,632 ✭✭✭ormond lad


    profitius wrote: »
    Anybody know who the number 10 playing for the youths against France last season in the FIFA AER U18 tournament is?

    Seen here setting up a try (3:40) scoring a try (10:50).
    George Cullen was starting outhalf iirc


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,976 ✭✭✭profitius


    It George Cullen alright. One of the exiles.
    International call-ups for College duo

    Two College students played in international tournaments over the Easter school holidays. George Cullen was pulled into the Ireland U18 Rugby Clubs team for a match against France, whilst Ali Clift played hockey for England in the Invitational Four Nations Tournament.

    In front of a crowd in excess of 4000 locals in Quimper, Brittany, seventeen year old George Cullen gave a fine debut performance as out half.He scored one of the three tries, which saw Ireland achieving a convincing win over the host nation by 27 points to 14.

    “With such a large home crowd it was a pretty intimidating atmosphere to play in and with a much larger French team it was always going to be hard, but I felt we played with more passion and aggression and ultimately this enabled us to come away with the victory,” said George. “It was a pretty special feeling winning the match as not many teams win on French soil, particularly, as Ireland U18s hadn't beaten France U18s for about 6 years. Overall it was an absolutely unforgettable experience and hopefully one I can become more familiar with in the future!”

    http://www.bishops-stortford-college.herts.sch.uk/publicity/sport/international.html

    The problem with playing these exiles is the good ones usually declare for England. It didn't take long for Shane Geraghty and Kieran Brookes to jump ship once England came calling.


  • Registered Users Posts: 196 ✭✭muscleshirt


    profitius wrote: »
    It George Cullen alright. One of the exiles.



    The problem with playing these exiles is the good ones usually declare for England. It didn't take long for Shane Geraghty and Kieran Brookes to jump ship once England came calling.
    look where geraghty is now would't make a good senior team


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16 Mudfest


    ormond lad wrote: »
    Jonny was unlucky to be injured and was not involved in some of the interpro games and im guessing didnt show enough in what he played to be given another look at by the irish youths coaches, his fitness(as much as it had improved) may also have played a factor.
    Oisin is highly regarded but he was very lucky to even make east munster and munster as some coaches felt he was too small to make it at the higher levels.
    Oisin has stood out any time ive seen him, one of the best technical tacklers there is but he is very slight and coaches would count that aginst him:(

    Hi Ormond, was hoping others might comment, but let me finish on this kid. I honestly thought you thinking that he was lucky to even make the east munster and munster teams is rubbish. I would have good knowledge of south and east and saw the match earlier in the year between them and he was outstanding and gave an exhibition of 7 play (tell me of a better one) , saw the Thomand game and again super. Have a friend whose son goes to the same school and he says that this boy is really tough sports nut, very good hurler and that he was on the tipp football panel but gave up once called to the rugby.
    I have seen him through the years, along with Jonathan Hayes, and a good number of the rest of the munster crew and to say they are not good enough to progress further I believe is wrong, they have far more potential than some picked, I have absolutely no doubt, however good luck to them. That Oisin lad is slight but ask your J.H how good he thinks he is.
    Thanks for your posts Ormond Lad.


  • Registered Users Posts: 136 ✭✭rugby_fan


    Think its a bit unfair of you to say that some of the players picked aren't up to it.. The irish managment viewed all these players in interpro action and I would think that they know what they are talking about.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,976 ✭✭✭profitius


    How big is Oisin O'Meara?

    The coaches need to be realistic too. He could be a late developer though.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,632 ✭✭✭ormond lad


    profitius wrote: »
    How big is Oisin O'Meara?

    The coaches need to be realistic too. He could be a late developer though.
    5' 10 and around 70kg(total guess but he certainly isnt much more than that)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,048 ✭✭✭Amazotheamazing


    ormond lad wrote: »
    5' 10 and around 70kg(total guess but he certainly isnt much more than that)

    5' 10 is probably too short for any serious career I'm afraid, course at 17 or 18 he could still grow a bit.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,976 ✭✭✭profitius


    5'10 is ok for a 7. Its the weight that could be the main issue. 70kg is just over 11st according to google. He might be very good at the level hes at now but when moving up a level or 2 he might get blown away.

    If he got to 14.5/15st it would be light but he could have a future in the game. Neill Back, Phil Waugh, Brussow, George Smith etc are all short but they bulked up enough to be able to compete at the highest level.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,632 ✭✭✭ormond lad


    Connacht u19 league finally starts this weekend.
    11/12 u19 Connacht League Fixtures
    Under 19 League
    30th oct
    Monivea Sligo
    Buccaneers Corinthians
    Ballinasloe Ballinrobe
    Galwegians Westport

    6th nov
    Corinthians Sligo
    Ballinrobe Monivea
    Westport Buccaneers
    Galwegians Ballinasloe

    13th nov
    Monivea Ballinasloe
    Corinthians Galwegians
    Ballinrobe Westport
    Sligo Buccaneers

    20th nov
    Ballinasloe Sligo
    Galwegians Buccaneers
    Westport Monivea
    Ballinrobe Corinthians

    27th nov
    Sligo Galwegians
    Ballinasloe Westport
    Ballinrobe Buccaneers
    Monivea Corinthians

    4th dec
    Westport Sligo
    Ballinrobe Galwegians
    Corinthians Ballinasloe
    Monivea Buccaneers

    11th dec
    Sligo Ballinrobe
    Westport Corinthians
    Galwegians Monivea
    Ballinasloe Buccaneers


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16 Mudfest


    rugby_fan wrote: »
    Think its a bit unfair of you to say that some of the players picked aren't up to it.. The irish managment viewed all these players in interpro action and I would think that they know what they are talking about.

    I am sorry if I gave the impression that "players picked weren't up to it", my intention was to highlight the two lads who I felt were surprising omissions, felt they were talented rugby players, Martin Mulnane another one perhaps, and not to take away from those picked, but wish the lads that did make it the very best, great opportunity for them and hope they enjoy it and develop further.

    On a separate topic, seeing weight and bulk came up, I have been involved with teams for many years, in the last three with teenagers. In an attempt to supplement their effort to 'bulk up', they are bringing tubs of protein in their gear bags. Not alone are they taking it, but advertising it and encouraging use to others. Maybe I am not educated enough in this area, but I do not agree with it in anyway.
    I remember years ago reading an article written by Tony Ward with regards to creatine and the use in rugby schools. We have all seen lads whose young build is far from natural, my concern is perhaps some dangers connected with protein supplements. We can be sure with kids that regarding following guidelines, that some will take less than directed and some will guide themselves and take more.
    Am I beginning to show my age?, would I have taken them in my day, I would like to think not, but I myself, again may be ignorant, do not appreciate it in the dressing rooms. Any thoughts?


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