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Would you care if your friend told you they used escorts/prositutes

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  • #302
    Turpentine
    Registered Users Posts: 702 ✭✭✭Turpentine


    evry1sm8 wrote: »
    But they are not selling their dignity!! Or degrading themselves.

    Anyone who is unhappy in their work or doing a job that they feel is beneath them may feel like they are degrading themselves, hence their dignity may take a knock.

    Anyone who is happy in whatever they do will have dignity, no matter what level or type of job that is.

    Someone elses dignity doesn't require your approval.


  • #303
    evry1sm8
    Closed Accounts Posts: 284 ✭✭evry1sm8


    Teamshadowclan wrote: »
    Question here cause I'm confused now. Is your problem with the person paying the pros or the person who is a pros? Cause you've just said you're ok with the girl getting paid for sex provided the man is as well, and the only part which changes with the prostitute is that the man isn't getting paid but is paying. The woman, who you were attacking earlier and saying is degrading herself etc, is still doing the exact same thing though (getting paid to provided sexual gratification).

    EDIT: Also, does this mean you're ok with porn? Afterall, both are actors who are doing what they are doing for the same reasons....

    A point id like to make is, actresses do not have sex scenes with full penetration. Its an ACT.
    Also, even if they did, they wouldnt be acting in one of these kinds of movies every day or second day for years on end...

    Just something to put in there.


  • #304
    hatrickpatrick
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,797 ✭✭✭✭hatrickpatrick


    evry1sm8 wrote: »
    But they are not selling their dignity!! Or degrading themselves.

    You're working off the assumption that it's 100% impossible for a woman to actually enjoy casual sex the same way guys do, and NOT find it degrading.

    I agree this is probably very rare, but nobody here has a right to PRESUME that for other people. Just as in any other job you wouldn't enjoy, in fact. You don't have the right to presume that no one would. I personally can't stand gore so I could never be a surgeon, do I therefore have the right to question why ANYONE would?!


  • #305
    Turpentine
    Registered Users Posts: 702 ✭✭✭Turpentine


    evry1sm8 wrote: »
    A point id like to make is, actresses do not have sex scenes with full penetration. Its an ACT.

    Do you even know what you're talking about?

    Have you seen "The Idiots", or "9 Songs"? Neither are classed as porn but contain full sex.
    evry1sm8 wrote: »
    Also, even if they did, they wouldnt be acting in one of these kinds of movies every day or second day for years on end...

    Just something to put in there.

    So no actual pornstar has ever worked for years on end?


  • #306
    evry1sm8
    Closed Accounts Posts: 284 ✭✭evry1sm8


    Turpentine wrote: »
    Anyone who is unhappy in their work or doing a job that they feel is beneath them may feel like they are degrading themselves, hence their dignity may take a knock.

    Anyone who is happy in whatever they do will have dignity, no matter what level or type of job that is.

    Someone elses dignity doesn't require your approval.

    No it doesnt.
    In this ENTIRE thread I am just arguing MY POINT OF VIEW.
    Never have I said that everyone should share this point of view,
    or that its better or worse, Im just giving my argument, from my stand-point, the way I see things...!!!


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  • #307
    Mickeroo
    Administrators, Computer Games Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 32,394 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Mickeroo


    evry1sm8 wrote: »
    Watch video 1 through 5.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zK6ECiARTvA

    Seen it before a few times. Don't really see what it has to do with anything. THe only thing that makes us different is our intelligence and adaptabiity. On a sexual level we're no different.


  • #308
    evry1sm8
    Closed Accounts Posts: 284 ✭✭evry1sm8


    hatrickpatrick wrote: »
    I certainly don't think anyone has a right to an opinion on someone else's private sexual relationships.

    Its definitely not really any of our business, as in- I wouldnt interfere, or tell someone directly what to do or what not to do.
    But we will have opinions!
    It is different posting on a thread on the topic, to actually getting involved in other peoples private business.

    I think its ok to have an opinion.


  • #309
    evry1sm8
    Closed Accounts Posts: 284 ✭✭evry1sm8


    Mickeroo wrote: »
    Seen it before a few times. Don't really see what it has to do with anything. THe only thing that makes us different is our intelligence and adaptabiity. On a sexual level we're no different.

    Thats stupid.
    Our intelligence is going to be a part of everything we do, including the sex we have!!
    So yes, on a sexual level we can be different... :rolleyes:


  • #310
    Mickeroo
    Administrators, Computer Games Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 32,394 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Mickeroo


    evry1sm8 wrote: »
    A point id like to make is, actresses do not have sex scenes with full penetration. Its an ACT.
    Also, even if they did, they wouldnt be acting in one of these kinds of movies every day or second day for years on end...

    Just something to put in there.


    I take you've never seen a pornagraphic movie? There's been quite a few non-porno movies with full penetration now too.


  • #311
    evry1sm8
    Closed Accounts Posts: 284 ✭✭evry1sm8


    I think Ive posted enough about my opinion on this topic.
    I have tried to explain my opinion and answer peoples questions / replies as best I could.
    I have nothing more to say.
    So now I'm off out, enjoy the rest of the day folks, and happy commenting!


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  • #312
    hatrickpatrick
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,797 ✭✭✭✭hatrickpatrick


    evry1sm8 wrote: »
    Its definitely not really any of our business, as in- I wouldnt interfere, or tell someone directly what to do or what not to do.
    But we will have opinions!
    It is different posting on a thread on the topic, to actually getting involved in other peoples private business.

    I think its ok to have an opinion.

    So do I, but I don't understand how anyone can be as shockingly judgemental as so many people in this thread (and indeed in this world) are, particularly when it comes to women who don't want to conform to the traditional mentality of waiting to be hunted and only being with one person.

    I know this is a cliched argument but why in God's name do we still have the slut/stud double standard in 2011. Go on about keys and locks all you like, what if someone doesn't WANT to play along with imagined social norms?

    No one would ever call a guy "damaged" or "insecure" because he's had a lot of partners, they'd just high five him. Why is it that if a girl behaves this way there's obviously something "wrong" with her?


  • #313
    evry1sm8
    Closed Accounts Posts: 284 ✭✭evry1sm8


    Mickeroo wrote: »
    I take you've never seen a pornagraphic movie? There's been quite a few non-porno movies with full penetration now too.

    Great. Good for them.


  • #314
    Mickeroo
    Administrators, Computer Games Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 32,394 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Mickeroo


    evry1sm8 wrote: »
    Thats stupid.
    Our intelligence is going to be a part of everything we do, including the sex we have!!
    So yes, on a sexual level we can be different... :rolleyes:

    Please point out an aspect of sexuality that is not found in the animal kingdom, something tells me you won't be able to by your post.


  • #315
    evry1sm8
    Closed Accounts Posts: 284 ✭✭evry1sm8


    Mickeroo wrote: »
    Please point out an aspect of sexuality that is not found in the animal kingdom, something tells me you won't be able to by your post.

    Go and educate yourself, thats not my job.


  • #316
    Lord TSC
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 42,602 Mod ✭✭✭✭Lord TSC


    evry1sm8 wrote: »
    A point id like to make is, actresses do not have sex scenes with full penetration. Its an ACT.
    Also, even if they did, they wouldnt be acting in one of these kinds of movies every day or second day for years on end...

    Just something to put in there.

    I see your point but the actress is preforming an act for the sexual gratification of the viewer who has paid money. It's pretty far off being the same but there is similarities.

    Regardless, you implied it was grand for an actor and actress to engage in a sex act provided they were both paid and on the same page when it came to the outcome, which happens in the porn industry. And I can name off a dozen porn stars who have been working for years and years in the industry and have obviously made quite a bit of money out of it without going crazy (beyond the typical lavicious American lifestyles that is).

    I think what you need to realise is while you might not be wanting to push your views on everyone, you're presenting your points in such a way as to make it seem as if you believe your opinion is fact. You may not mean to come accross that way but you are using phrases and language which makes you come accross as being a tad arrogant and know-it-all. You're more than entitled to an opinion and even the right to defend it, but the way you are is making you look bad.


  • #317
    Icyseanfitz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,411 ✭✭✭Icyseanfitz


    just because we are more intelligent than other animals doesnt mean we lack all the natural emotions urges etc. that they do, we are the exact same as a dog except we have evolved to a level of intelligence where we can belittle and condemn people for doing something we personally dont believe in or like


  • #318
    evry1sm8
    Closed Accounts Posts: 284 ✭✭evry1sm8


    hatrickpatrick wrote: »
    So do I, but I don't understand how anyone can be as shockingly judgemental as so many people in this thread

    I know this is a cliched argument but why in God's name do we still have the slut/stud double standard in 2011.

    No one would ever call a guy "damaged" or "insecure" because he's had a lot of partners, they'd just high five him. Why is it that if a girl behaves this way there's obviously something "wrong" with her?

    People will always pass judgement on things.

    Go and educate yourself on the differences between men and women and then you might understand.
    Just because its 2011 doesnt mean those differences have vanished! :rolleyes:


  • #319
    hatrickpatrick
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,797 ✭✭✭✭hatrickpatrick


    Basically what I'm saying is, any time you have a girl who really enjoys sex, people try to "diagnose" why that is. In the past it was known as a mental disorder, Nymphomania, and had horrific solutions, from lobotomies to magdalene asylums.

    Today while official reprecussions are gone, people still have to find out "why". Was she abused as a kid? Does she have 'daddy issues'? Is she trying to make an ex jealous? Is she in it for the money? Is she doing it for social approval?

    Is "because she wants to and it's her life" not good enough for ye?


  • #320
    evry1sm8
    Closed Accounts Posts: 284 ✭✭evry1sm8


    Icyseanfitz wrote: »
    just because we are more intelligent than other animals doesnt mean we lack all the natural emotions urges etc. that they do

    No it doesnt, but we have the intelligence to act or not act on them in appropriate ways.


  • #321
    Mickeroo
    Administrators, Computer Games Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 32,394 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Mickeroo


    evry1sm8 wrote: »
    Go and educate yourself, thats not my job.

    I should educate mysef because you can't respond to a post I already know the answer to, riiiiiiiiiight.


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  • #322
    Icyseanfitz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,411 ✭✭✭Icyseanfitz


    evry1sm8 wrote: »
    No it doesnt, but we have the intelligence to act or not act on them in appropriate ways.

    whats appropriate for you may not be for someone else, we are all individuals and in being so are all completely different in our wants, needs and morals


  • #323
    evry1sm8
    Closed Accounts Posts: 284 ✭✭evry1sm8


    Teamshadowclan wrote: »
    I see your point but the actress is preforming an act for the sexual gratification of the viewer who has paid money. It's pretty far off being the same but there is similarities.

    Regardless, you implied it was grand for an actor and actress to engage in a sex act provided they were both paid and on the same page when it came to the outcome, which happens in the porn industry. And I can name off a dozen porn stars who have been working for years and years in the industry and have obviously made quite a bit of money out of it without going crazy (beyond the typical lavicious American lifestyles that is).

    I think what you need to realise is while you might not be wanting to push your views on everyone, you're presenting your points in such a way as to make it seem as if you believe your opinion is fact. You may not mean to come accross that way but you are using phrases and language which makes you come accross as being a tad arrogant and know-it-all. You're more than entitled to an opinion and even the right to defend it, but the way you are is making you look bad.

    Youre the one passing judgement on the WAY I am putting my ideas / opinions across... The way I see it Im just using proper language and putting them across in such a way as to express my belief in them.


  • #324
    hatrickpatrick
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,797 ✭✭✭✭hatrickpatrick


    evry1sm8 wrote: »
    People will always pass judgement on things.

    Go and educate yourself on the differences between men and women and then you might understand.
    Just because its 2011 doesnt mean those differences have vanished! :rolleyes:

    I understand the differences, but I also understand another crucial difference which is that not every woman is exactly the same as other women and not every guy is exactly the same as every other guy.

    All humans are different. We have differences as human beings AS WELL as differences as men and women, and I really don't see why we strive for uniformity so much. Just because someone does something you don't expect, doesn't make it wrong.

    It's one of the reasons I facepalm at the word "disorder" used in so many mental conditions today. Just what is the definition of "normal" now anyway? "normal" should be what applies to the majority, but I bet if everyone you know was subjected to psycho analysis, some kind of "problem" would be found.

    Is it not time to accept that if someone isn't hurting anyone else without their permission (IE if everyone involved is a consenting adult) it's not "wrong"?

    The only "wrong" is when you hurt someone against their will, IMO. Cheating is wrong, therefore. Leading people on is wrong too. But if both parties know exactly what they're getting and are ok with that, I don't see how anyone can have such an issue with it.


  • #325
    evry1sm8
    Closed Accounts Posts: 284 ✭✭evry1sm8


    Icyseanfitz wrote: »
    whats appropriate for you may not be for someone else, we are all individuals and in being so are all completely different in our wants, needs and morals

    Yes I get that, as I have said before.
    I am simply talking about what MY idea of appropriate is. Its the only opinion I can give- my own.


  • #326
    evry1sm8
    Closed Accounts Posts: 284 ✭✭evry1sm8


    Mickeroo wrote: »
    I should educate mysef because you can't respond to a post I already know the answer to, riiiiiiiiiight.

    Im here to give my opinions on the use of prostitutes.
    If you want to know the differences between man and animals, go find out yourself!! In not here to educate people, Im here to give my opinions.


  • #327
    Turpentine
    Registered Users Posts: 702 ✭✭✭Turpentine


    evry1sm8 wrote: »
    No it doesnt, but we have the intelligence to act or not act on them in appropriate ways.

    And you would like to believe your definition of "appropriate" to be the only one that is true?

    Did you read that Cracked article I posted a link to a while back? Before you continue down the "us humans are special unique snowflakes in nature" route that is the folly of the religious and the arrogant.


  • #328
    hatrickpatrick
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,797 ✭✭✭✭hatrickpatrick


    evry1sm8 wrote: »
    Yes I get that, as I have said before.
    I am simply talking about what MY idea of appropriate is. Its the only opinion I can give- my own.

    But all I'm asking is, WHY do you find it inappropriate if it harms no one? What's wrong with it, exactly?
    Did you have a bad experience yourself or something? Why should you care as long as your friends are happy with their choices?


  • #329
    Lord TSC
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 42,602 Mod ✭✭✭✭Lord TSC


    evry1sm8 wrote: »
    Youre the one passing judgement on the WAY I am putting my ideas / opinions across... The way I see it Im just using proper language and putting them across in such a way as to express my belief in them.

    Guess we'll agree to disagree. I'll just say you've refused point blank to budge from your position on this though and when that's obvious in your post, and once it's realised you'll defend a position to the death despite what everyone else says, don't expect a warm reception.


  • #330
    evry1sm8
    Closed Accounts Posts: 284 ✭✭evry1sm8


    hatrickpatrick wrote: »
    Basically what I'm saying is, any time you have a girl who really enjoys sex, people try to "diagnose" why that is. In the past it was known as a mental disorder, Nymphomania, and had horrific solutions, from lobotomies to magdalene asylums.

    Is "because she wants to and it's her life" not good enough for ye?

    Ehhh, I never said girls shouldnt enjoy sex, or that its wrong for them to :confused:
    I do however believe that not all prostitutes enjoy the sex they are having.


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  • #331
    Lord TSC
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 42,602 Mod ✭✭✭✭Lord TSC


    evry1sm8 wrote: »
    Ehhh, I never said girls should enjoy sex, or that its wrong for them to :confused:
    I do however believe that not all prostitutes enjoy the sex they are having.

    They aren't having sex to enjoy it though. They are having it to make money which they can then spend on things they enjoy or things they need.


  • #332
    evry1sm8
    Closed Accounts Posts: 284 ✭✭evry1sm8


    Turpentine wrote: »
    And you would like to believe your definition of "appropriate" to be the only one that is true?

    No, its just the only one that I have... :confused:
    Mine.


  • #333
    hatrickpatrick
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,797 ✭✭✭✭hatrickpatrick


    evry1sm8 wrote: »
    I do however believe that not all prostitutes enjoy the sex they are having.

    So do I. I was referring to the people here who assume that NO prostitute enjoys it and that they're either automatically victims, or sick people. I think that's a fairly sexist double standard, surely in this day and age people can make their own choices without anyone assuming there's something wrong with them?


  • #334
    evry1sm8
    Closed Accounts Posts: 284 ✭✭evry1sm8


    Teamshadowclan wrote: »
    They aren't having sex to enjoy it though. They are having it to make money which they can then spend on things they enjoy or things they need.

    Ehhh yeah, exactly... :confused: ??????

    I do get this you know.


  • #335
    Mickeroo
    Administrators, Computer Games Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 32,394 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Mickeroo


    evry1sm8 wrote: »
    Im here to give my opinions of the use of prostitutes.
    If you want to know the differences between man and animals, go find out yourself!! In not here to educate people, Im here to give my opinions.

    I never asked you to educate me, I simply asked you to back up what you were saying which you were obviously unable or just couldn't be bothered to do. If you don't want to pursue that line of argument anymore that's fine. :)


  • #336
    Icyseanfitz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,411 ✭✭✭Icyseanfitz


    evry1sm8 wrote: »
    Yes I get that, as I have said before.
    I am simply talking about what MY idea of appropriate is. Its the only opinion I can give- my own.

    look humans have evolved to like sex thats it, some have to pay for it so some like to make money from it, being a prostitute is not a life long career but i have heard of stories where the girls actually like their jobs (places where it would be legal mind you), sex is sex there is nothing wrong or bad about it (within reason of course)


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  • #337
    hatrickpatrick
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,797 ✭✭✭✭hatrickpatrick


    Teamshadowclan wrote: »
    They aren't having sex to enjoy it though.

    Most aren't, but I still say it's completely unfair to say that none are.
    You could say the same about any job, but some people do it because they enjoy it AND they need to earn a living.

    One glove doesn't fit all etc


  • #338
    evry1sm8
    Closed Accounts Posts: 284 ✭✭evry1sm8


    hatrickpatrick wrote: »
    But all I'm asking is, WHY do you find it inappropriate if it harms no one? What's wrong with it, exactly?
    Did you have a bad experience yourself or something? Why should you care as long as your friends are happy with their choices?

    Ive said this before, please read all my other posts...
    But here it is again. Because I believe that over time, for a woman to have sex that she isnt enjoying, with lots and lots of strangers, every week, will take its toll on their emotional and mental health.
    THIS is my opinion on it.


  • #339
    Icyseanfitz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,411 ✭✭✭Icyseanfitz


    evry1sm8 wrote: »
    Ive said this before, please read all my other posts...
    But here it is again. Because I believe that over time, for a woman to have sex that she isnt enjoying, with lots and lots of strangers, every week, will take its toll on their emotional and mental health.
    THIS is my opinion on it.

    hell my job is taking a toll of my bloody mental health :( doing the same boring crap day in day out with the same people cant be good for you


  • #340
    evry1sm8
    Closed Accounts Posts: 284 ✭✭evry1sm8


    Teamshadowclan wrote: »
    Guess we'll agree to disagree. I'll just say you've refused point blank to budge from your position on this though

    Yeah because that is my position on it :confused:
    It would take a bit more then a few posters on a forum to change my belief system.
    All I can do is express my beliefs.
    I didnt come on here to have them changed, I came on here to tell other people what they are.


  • #341
    evry1sm8
    Closed Accounts Posts: 284 ✭✭evry1sm8


    hatrickpatrick wrote: »
    So do I. I was referring to the people here who assume that NO prostitute enjoys it and that they're either automatically victims, or sick people. I think that's a fairly sexist double standard, surely in this day and age people can make their own choices without anyone assuming there's something wrong with them?

    I never said there was anything wrong with the prostitutes, but I would be concerned that over time they may become damaged by the work that they do. Unless they are already damaged.
    Its just not a healthy lifestyle IMO.


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  • #342
    evry1sm8
    Closed Accounts Posts: 284 ✭✭evry1sm8


    Right Im out guys, bye


  • #343
    evry1sm8
    Closed Accounts Posts: 284 ✭✭evry1sm8


    As a last point before I go though, its not always the women that end up hurting or damaged after these sexual "transactions".

    <snip>


  • #344
    KeithM89_old
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,806 ✭✭✭✭KeithM89_old


    evry1sm8 wrote: »
    As a last point before I go though, its not always the women that end up hurting or damaged after these sexual "transactions".

    <snip>

    Dont link to threads in other forums, thanks.


  • #345
    hatrickpatrick
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,797 ✭✭✭✭hatrickpatrick


    KeithM89 wrote: »
    Dont link to threads in other forums, thanks.

    +1, let's keep this awful contagion in one place :D


  • #346
    Greentopia
    Registered Users Posts: 3,221 ✭✭✭Greentopia


    Great, I had a long post in response to evry1sm8 written out and I lost it and now she's gone anyway :rolleyes:


  • #347
    Yag reuoY
    Closed Accounts Posts: 214 ✭✭Yag reuoY


    Greentopia wrote: »
    Great, I had a long post in response to evry1sm8 written out and I lost it and now she's gone anyway :rolleyes:

    You could've just pressed the back button on your browser.


  • #348
    AskMyChocolate
    Registered Users Posts: 2,312 ✭✭✭AskMyChocolate


    Greentopia wrote: »
    My, that's very sudden. This is a very big commitment Joe so I'll have to ask you a few questions forst. I won't marry just anyone ya know :pac:
    Do you have all your own teeth? a few acres with good road frontage? are you an older gentleman? any heart conditions? answer yes to all of them and this might be your lucky day Joe :D
    Bipolar Joe wrote: »
    Had a couple teeth knocked outta me.
    I have a front yard.
    I have a heart murmur.

    Score :cool: :cool: .
    The-Rigger wrote: »
    bagsy best man.
    Bipolar Joe wrote: »
    I expect the stag night to have a steady supply of hookers.
    The-Rigger wrote: »
    Proper trafficked ones too, none that are there on their own will or dime.
    Bipolar Joe wrote: »
    Eugh, the thought of women being happy when I have sex with them is a right turn off. Hasn't happened yet, so fingers crossed!
    Greentopia wrote: »
    Good man, close enough. I'll be wanting a big wedding now so PM me with the details. It can be like an arranged marriage where we only see each other on the day :pac:
    And don't worry, there'll be no need for hookers when we're married Joe wink wink ;)
    Bipolar Joe wrote: »
    Jesus, are ya gonna castrate me?
    Greentopia wrote: »
    Weddings off :mad:

    :P
    Bipolar Joe wrote: »
    Welp, that answers that!
    The-Rigger wrote: »
    Dodged a bullet Joe.
    Bipolar Joe wrote: »
    She'll never have my yard, now!
    The-Rigger wrote: »
    Plenty more women in the sea. You can do better imo.

    What the fcuk am I supposed to do with these waistcoats?

    FYP?


  • #349
    AskMyChocolate
    Registered Users Posts: 2,312 ✭✭✭AskMyChocolate


    AskMyChocolate wrote: »
    So, what you are saying, is that, if I come to an arrangement to provide services to a businesswoman, a widow, a disabled woman and earn €150 p/h for providing this service, and hopefully giving someone some pleasure I should find this demeaning, but if I am forced to clean your toilet for €8 p/h, because you're above doing it yourself, and live like a slave, I shouldn't find this demeaning in the slightest.

    You also think these women should be targetted.

    You have a strange value system. But, then again, I suppose what is one to expect from someone who deplores human trafficing but steadfastly defends the hierarchy that ran the Magdalene laundries and the industrial schools.
    Min wrote: »
    I did not say that.

    A toilet cleaner is not selling their body and dignity, it is an honest job and it is not my problem if you look down on toilet cleaners.

    I said the user should be targetted, not the prostitute.

    You are the one who are judging toilet cleaners and then you think I have a strange value system.
    I have said nothing against the prostitutes, it is the user who is the problem as there would be no prostitutes if their was no demand.

    I heard on the radio and read here too that a Swedish type system might be introduced here so the user is the one who is causing the offense not the prostitute.
    I believe if you are caught a number of times using prostitutes your name would be in the public domain.

    Who are you to decide, when a person gets down on their hands and knees to clean another person's toilet, whether they are selling their body or their dignity?

    Who are you to decide what constitutes an "honest" day's work?

    I never looked down on toilet cleaners.It was you looking down on prostitutes. When did I call a toilet cleaner dishonest? If that's what they choose to do, who am I to judge them?

    I merely said, that in my opinion there is far more dignity in being a successful self-employed businessman/woman than there is in being an underpaid unappreciated slave.

    I notice aswell, how you haven't addressed the points of my original post that you had no answers to.

    But, of course, cleaning the head of a paedophile ring's toilet for slave wages lends far more dignity than assuaging the needs of an honest disabled worker who just needs some human contact.

    Isn't that right Min?


  • #350
    hatrickpatrick
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,797 ✭✭✭✭hatrickpatrick


    I'mma stir up a bit of controversy here, hold on to yer butts everyone!

    A prostitute is far better than a women who gets into a relationship with a guy just for his money or lifestyle.

    A prostitute is upfront and honest about it from the start. There is no question whatsoever in anyone's mind about what's going on, she's explicitly and openly attempting to profit from her sexuality. No problem there IMO.

    A gold digger, on the other hand, attempts to profit from her sexuality whilst simultaneously tricking the poor bloke into thinking she actually likes him.

    Only essential difference there is that one is honest and the other is not.

    Discuss.

    *grabs popcorn and watches sh!tstorm commence* :D


  • #351
    discus
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    AH makes me ****ing DESPAIR sometimes.


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