Would you care if your friend told you they used escorts/prositutes

evry1sm8 · 04-09-2011 6:16pm

Turpentine wrote: »

And you would like to believe your definition of "appropriate" to be the only one that is true?

No, its just the only one that I have...

Mine.

hatrickpatrick · 04-09-2011 6:17pm

evry1sm8 wrote: »

I do however believe that not all prostitutes enjoy the sex they are having.

So do I. I was referring to the people here who assume that NO prostitute enjoys it and that they're either automatically victims, or sick people. I think that's a fairly sexist double standard, surely in this day and age people can make their own choices without anyone assuming there's something wrong with them?

evry1sm8 · 04-09-2011 6:17pm

Teamshadowclan wrote: »

They aren't having sex to enjoy it though. They are having it to make money which they can then spend on things they enjoy or things they need.

Ehhh yeah, exactly...

??????

I do get this you know.

Mickeroo · 04-09-2011 6:17pm

evry1sm8 wrote: »

Im here to give my opinions of the use of prostitutes.
If you want to know the differences between man and animals, go find out yourself!! In not here to educate people, Im here to give my opinions.

I never asked you to educate me, I simply asked you to back up what you were saying which you were obviously unable or just couldn't be bothered to do. If you don't want to pursue that line of argument anymore that's fine.

Icyseanfitz · 04-09-2011 6:17pm

evry1sm8 wrote: »

Yes I get that, as I have said before.
I am simply talking about what MY idea of appropriate is. Its the only opinion I can give- my own.

look humans have evolved to like sex thats it, some have to pay for it so some like to make money from it, being a prostitute is not a life long career but i have heard of stories where the girls actually like their jobs (places where it would be legal mind you), sex is sex there is nothing wrong or bad about it (within reason of course)

hatrickpatrick · 04-09-2011 6:19pm

Teamshadowclan wrote: »

They aren't having sex to enjoy it though.

Most aren't, but I still say it's completely unfair to say that none are.
You could say the same about any job, but some people do it because they enjoy it AND they need to earn a living.

One glove doesn't fit all etc

evry1sm8 · 04-09-2011 6:19pm

hatrickpatrick wrote: »

But all I'm asking is, WHY do you find it inappropriate if it harms no one? What's wrong with it, exactly?
Did you have a bad experience yourself or something? Why should you care as long as your friends are happy with their choices?

Ive said this before, please read all my other posts...
But here it is again. Because I believe that over time, for a woman to have sex that she isnt enjoying, with lots and lots of strangers, every week, will take its toll on their emotional and mental health.
THIS is my opinion on it.

Icyseanfitz · 04-09-2011 6:22pm

evry1sm8 wrote: »

Ive said this before, please read all my other posts...
But here it is again. Because I believe that over time, for a woman to have sex that she isnt enjoying, with lots and lots of strangers, every week, will take its toll on their emotional and mental health.
THIS is my opinion on it.

hell my job is taking a toll of my bloody mental health

doing the same boring crap day in day out with the same people cant be good for you

evry1sm8 · 04-09-2011 6:22pm

Teamshadowclan wrote: »

Guess we'll agree to disagree. I'll just say you've refused point blank to budge from your position on this though

Yeah because that is my position on it

It would take a bit more then a few posters on a forum to change my belief system.
All I can do is express my beliefs.
I didnt come on here to have them changed, I came on here to tell other people what they are.

evry1sm8 · 04-09-2011 6:25pm

hatrickpatrick wrote: »

So do I. I was referring to the people here who assume that NO prostitute enjoys it and that they're either automatically victims, or sick people. I think that's a fairly sexist double standard, surely in this day and age people can make their own choices without anyone assuming there's something wrong with them?

I never said there was anything wrong with the prostitutes, but I would be concerned that over time they may become damaged by the work that they do. Unless they are already damaged.
Its just not a healthy lifestyle IMO.

evry1sm8 · 04-09-2011 6:27pm

Right Im out guys, bye

evry1sm8 · 04-09-2011 6:30pm

As a last point before I go though, its not always the women that end up hurting or damaged after these sexual "transactions".

<snip>

KeithM89_old · 04-09-2011 6:40pm

evry1sm8 wrote: »

As a last point before I go though, its not always the women that end up hurting or damaged after these sexual "transactions".

<snip>

Dont link to threads in other forums, thanks.

hatrickpatrick · 04-09-2011 6:56pm

KeithM89 wrote: »

Dont link to threads in other forums, thanks.

+1, let's keep this awful contagion in one place

Greentopia · 04-09-2011 6:58pm

Great, I had a long post in response to evry1sm8 written out and I lost it and now she's gone anyway :rolleyes:

Yag reuoY · 04-09-2011 7:06pm

Greentopia wrote: »

Great, I had a long post in response to evry1sm8 written out and I lost it and now she's gone anyway :rolleyes:

You could've just pressed the back button on your browser.

AskMyChocolate · 05-09-2011 4:55am

Greentopia wrote: »

My, that's very sudden. This is a very big commitment Joe so I'll have to ask you a few questions forst. I won't marry just anyone ya know :pac:
Do you have all your own teeth? a few acres with good road frontage? are you an older gentleman? any heart conditions? answer yes to all of them and this might be your lucky day Joe

Bipolar Joe wrote: »

Had a couple teeth knocked outta me.
I have a front yard.
I have a heart murmur.

Score :cool: :cool: .

The-Rigger wrote: »

bagsy best man.

Bipolar Joe wrote: »

I expect the stag night to have a steady supply of hookers.

The-Rigger wrote: »

Proper trafficked ones too, none that are there on their own will or dime.

Bipolar Joe wrote: »

Eugh, the thought of women being happy when I have sex with them is a right turn off. Hasn't happened yet, so fingers crossed!

Greentopia wrote: »

Good man, close enough. I'll be wanting a big wedding now so PM me with the details. It can be like an arranged marriage where we only see each other on the day :pac:
And don't worry, there'll be no need for hookers when we're married Joe wink wink

Bipolar Joe wrote: »

Jesus, are ya gonna castrate me?

Greentopia wrote: »

Weddings off :mad:

:P

Bipolar Joe wrote: »

Welp, that answers that!

The-Rigger wrote: »

Dodged a bullet Joe.

Bipolar Joe wrote: »

She'll never have my yard, now!

The-Rigger wrote: »

Plenty more women in the sea. You can do better imo.

What the fcuk am I supposed to do with these waistcoats?

FYP?

AskMyChocolate · 05-09-2011 6:04am

AskMyChocolate wrote: »

So, what you are saying, is that, if I come to an arrangement to provide services to a businesswoman, a widow, a disabled woman and earn €150 p/h for providing this service, and hopefully giving someone some pleasure I should find this demeaning, but if I am forced to clean your toilet for €8 p/h, because you're above doing it yourself, and live like a slave, I shouldn't find this demeaning in the slightest.

You also think these women should be targetted.

You have a strange value system. But, then again, I suppose what is one to expect from someone who deplores human trafficing but steadfastly defends the hierarchy that ran the Magdalene laundries and the industrial schools.

Min wrote: »

I did not say that.

A toilet cleaner is not selling their body and dignity, it is an honest job and it is not my problem if you look down on toilet cleaners.

I said the user should be targetted, not the prostitute.

You are the one who are judging toilet cleaners and then you think I have a strange value system.
I have said nothing against the prostitutes, it is the user who is the problem as there would be no prostitutes if their was no demand.

I heard on the radio and read here too that a Swedish type system might be introduced here so the user is the one who is causing the offense not the prostitute.
I believe if you are caught a number of times using prostitutes your name would be in the public domain.

Who are you to decide, when a person gets down on their hands and knees to clean another person's toilet, whether they are selling their body or their dignity?

Who are you to decide what constitutes an "honest" day's work?

I never looked down on toilet cleaners.It was you looking down on prostitutes. When did I call a toilet cleaner dishonest? If that's what they choose to do, who am I to judge them?

I merely said, that in my opinion there is far more dignity in being a successful self-employed businessman/woman than there is in being an underpaid unappreciated slave.

I notice aswell, how you haven't addressed the points of my original post that you had no answers to.

But, of course, cleaning the head of a paedophile ring's toilet for slave wages lends far more dignity than assuaging the needs of an honest disabled worker who just needs some human contact.

Isn't that right Min?

hatrickpatrick · 05-09-2011 10:06am

I'mma stir up a bit of controversy here, hold on to yer butts everyone!

A prostitute is far better than a women who gets into a relationship with a guy just for his money or lifestyle.

A prostitute is upfront and honest about it from the start. There is no question whatsoever in anyone's mind about what's going on, she's explicitly and openly attempting to profit from her sexuality. No problem there IMO.

A gold digger, on the other hand, attempts to profit from her sexuality whilst simultaneously tricking the poor bloke into thinking she actually likes him.

Only essential difference there is that one is honest and the other is not.

Discuss.

*grabs popcorn and watches sh!tstorm commence*

discus · 05-09-2011 10:54am

AH makes me ****ing DESPAIR sometimes.

Remmy · 05-09-2011 11:16am

I wouldn't give a toss if my friend told me he availed of their services.If it was someone who was married then I would take offence to that and I wouldn't be long telling him that it was a di*k-move.

revell · 05-09-2011 11:22am

alex73 wrote: »

The Question men need to ask on Prostitution.

I see a lot of posts (i presume men) sayings its fine to use a prostitute. Consenting adults..

Questions you need to ask:-

1. If you had a daughter would you be fine with her being a prostitute? (most men say no to that one)

It is irrelevant indeed.

2. If the prostitute is not Irish, who paid for her to come to Ireland? Is the money going to her Pimp.

Am I forced to do the ****ty job of cleaning and get paid minimum wage because there is no other job I can get?

Richard Dower · 05-09-2011 11:23am

hatrickpatrick wrote: »

I'mma stir up a bit of controversy here, hold on to yer butts everyone!

A prostitute is far better than a women who gets into a relationship with a guy just for his money or lifestyle.

A prostitute is upfront and honest about it from the start. There is no question whatsoever in anyone's mind about what's going on, she's explicitly and openly attempting to profit from her sexuality. No problem there IMO.

A gold digger, on the other hand, attempts to profit from her sexuality whilst simultaneously tricking the poor bloke into thinking she actually likes him.

Only essential difference there is that one is honest and the other is not.

Discuss.

*grabs popcorn and watches sh!tstorm commence*

+1 ...tis true!, which is why i think the Charlie Sheen approach is the way to go, just hire someone for sex...in the long term it's cheaper.

revell · 05-09-2011 11:24am

hatrickpatrick wrote: »

I'mma stir up a bit of controversy here, hold on to yer butts everyone!

A prostitute is far better than a women who gets into a relationship with a guy just for his money or lifestyle.

A prostitute is upfront and honest about it from the start. There is no question whatsoever in anyone's mind about what's going on, she's explicitly and openly attempting to profit from her sexuality. No problem there IMO.

A gold digger, on the other hand, attempts to profit from her sexuality whilst simultaneously tricking the poor bloke into thinking she actually likes him.

Only essential difference there is that one is honest and the other is not.

Discuss.

*grabs popcorn and watches sh!tstorm commence*

Like your mindset;)

Richard Dower · 05-09-2011 11:29am

^ to add, it does depend on what you want from a woman, it's not always about sex...if you're into intimacy and a relationship then being with someone in thay way is great. The Charlie Sheen types are tired and jaded....been burned by women lots of times, but then they must look at themselves and realise they seem to attract those gold digging types.

So they resort to the cash for sex angle, which i'm OK with...but it's all fake in of itself and in the long term not fulfilling.

sexter · 05-09-2011 4:59pm

Sex is not always aspired to for the soul reason of lust. Often, someone who desires sex strongly enough to use an escort does so out of mixed up aspirations for intimacy and connection to a woman. Resulting in potentially damaging psychological effects. So I would not judge the individual as he is only harming himself.

Dermighty · 05-09-2011 5:07pm

Two people I know told me they slept with prostitutes, they're both weird guys.

Lord TSC · 05-09-2011 5:32pm

To add, I think its a little unfair that we have one topic calling people weird for using hookers but another saying you're weird if you are a virgin by a certain age. You wonder how someone born ugly or without self-confidence ever gets by in this world....

Wertz · 05-09-2011 6:01pm

Teamshadowclan wrote: »

To add, I think its a little unfair that we have one topic calling people weird for using hookers but another saying you're weird if you are a virgin by a certain age. You wonder how someone born ugly or without self-confidence ever gets by in this world....

Well obviously they should just remove themselves from society. No-one likes a freak. Suicide, emigration, life as a hermit...once these "people" aren't threatening the nice normal lives of others eh?

Brid Hegarty · 17-09-2021 9:46am

There was a fella at work recently who'd been using prostitutes. He was stupid enough to tell people about it and a few other female staff found out and were horrified. Funnily I found out about it from a female colleague that I kind of fancy and I pretended to be shocked... but only so in response her reaction. Why? Well because it's sort of my way of telling her that I'd never do that! Why? I can understand that they might be horrified if it were him that told them.

I'm not necessarily saying that it surprises me that people say that it's disgusting to go see a prostitute. I get that people don't want to think about it. But why the judgement? I am a bit puzzled as to what people are thinking when they frown upon it. Let's try break down the possible reasons.

Is it because it's with a stranger? Or is it because it's actually disgusting in the sense that you're having sex with someone who's most likely just had sex with someone else? I mean most people don't consider having a one night stand disgusting... even the ones that disapprove of it. So why is seeing a hooker disgusting? Assuming you get to witness the woman shower and brush her teeth first, and that you use a condom, then I don't consider it disgusting.

Would you care if your friend told you they used escorts/prositutes

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